# Things Could Get Complicated > A deep dive into the suspicious mechanics of the Wall Street Flash Crash, the reality of TSA body scanners, and the corporate interests behind Haitian earthquake relief. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 198 - **Published:** 2010-05-09 - **Length:** 1h 51m - **Topics:** [Flash Crash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flash-crash.md), Haiti recovery, [Elena Kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elena-kagan.md), Hung parliament, TSA scanners, [Climategate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climategate.md), Kanellos - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated ## About this episode The May 6, 2010, stock market Flash Crash saw the Dow Jones Industrial Average plummet nearly 1,000 points in minutes, a collapse mainstream media attributed to a fat finger error at Citibank. However, audio from the Chicago Mercantile Exchange pit reveals a massive bet against the market placed ten minutes prior, suggesting a coordinated event. This episode investigates theories of high-frequency trading beta tests and the role of VST trading code patents originally held by Max Keiser. In Haiti, UN envoy Bill Clinton faces criticism for a recovery plan that prioritizes moving textile manufacturing from Asia to Port-au-Prince over immediate humanitarian needs. Actor Sean Penn, managing a refugee camp, warns that the American Red Cross has become a mere money-collection operation while children die of preventable diseases like diphtheria. Meanwhile, the United Kingdom navigates a hung parliament following the general election, as Sky News presenter Kay Burley faces backlash for her aggressive framing of the coalition negotiations and the 80 billion euro European bailout fund. Domestic propaganda surfaces in unexpected places, from sodium-focused nutrition labels on American Dad to high-speed rail normalization in the children’s show Dinosaur Train. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak also examine a TSA body scanner incident in Miami that confirms the machines produce detailed nude images despite government denials. The show concludes with a look at Kanellos, the Greek protest dog who has become a viral symbol of anti-austerity riots in Athens. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/transcript.md. ### 1. No Agenda Episode 198 Introduction and Live Streaming (0:01–1:49) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 198 of the No Agenda show on May 9, 2010. They discuss the benefits of listening to the live stream at NoAgendaStream.com versus downloading the podcast via iTunes. The hosts establish their locations in Southern California and Northern Silicon Valley as they prepare for their upcoming 200th episode. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [live stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-stream.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/1.md) ### 2. American Dad Sodium Content and Health Propaganda (1:50–3:38) A viewer observation from the animated show American Dad describes a scene where a character examines a nutrition label specifically for sodium content. The discussion suggests this is an example of unnecessary health propaganda embedded in entertainment media. The hosts debate whether creator Seth MacFarlane is mocking the obsession with salt or participating in a broader "brainwashing" effort. Keywords: [american dad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-dad.md), [seth macfarlane](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seth-macfarlane.md), [sodium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sodium.md), nutrition label, [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Law and Order Climate Change and Climategate Narrative (3:39–6:14) Two clips from the television series Law and Order depict characters debating the validity of human-caused climate change and the ethics of cap and trade. One segment explicitly references "stolen emails" and scientists "cooking their numbers," which mirrors the real-world Climategate controversy. The hosts suggest producer Dick Wolf may be using the show to turn actual news events into fiction to manage public perception. Keywords: [law and order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law-and-order.md), [dick wolf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dick-wolf.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [cap and trade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cap-and-trade.md), [climategate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climategate.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Barack Obama Proclaims Mother's Day 2010 (6:15–8:02) President Barack Obama issued a formal proclamation on May 7, 2010, designating May 9 as Mother's Day. While a joint resolution in 1914 originally established the holiday, the hosts note the unusual nature of a modern president re-ratifying the observance. They briefly compare the timing of Mother's Day in the United States to different dates used in England and the Netherlands. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [mother's day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mother-s-day.md), [presidential proclamation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/presidential-proclamation.md), [whitehouse.gov](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whitehouse-gov.md), 1914 resolution [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Executive Producer Credits and Brad Meltzer Book Plug (8:03–9:46) The hosts acknowledge executive producers Howard G. Hill and Kent Zeiser for their financial support of the episode. Associate executive producer Noah Cutler is also thanked for his contribution, which included a request to mention Brad Meltzer's non-fiction book, Heroes for My Son. The segment outlines the show's "Value for Value" model where listeners underwrite the production in exchange for credits. Keywords: howard g. hill, kent zeiser, noah cutler, [brad meltzer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brad-meltzer.md), heroes for my son [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Home Shopping Channel Marketing Strategy (9:47–11:21) A listener suggestion proposes calling into home shopping channels to mention No Agenda during live product testimonials. The hosts discuss the demographics of people who watch 24-hour shopping networks for electronics and jewelry. They ultimately dismiss the idea of starting their own shopping show due to the perceived workload involved. Keywords: [home shopping network](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/home-shopping-network.md), [qvc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qvc.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), call-in lines, junk jewelry [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Search Engine Optimization and No Agenda Community (11:22–14:14) A computer science student from Melbourne, Australia, offers to assist the show with search engine optimization (SEO) for its various websites. The hosts discuss the "No Agenda Army," a decentralized group of listeners who contribute skills and resources without formal meetings or organization. They reiterate that the show relies entirely on this community because it does not accept traditional advertising. Keywords: [seo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seo.md), [melbourne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/melbourne.md), [search engine optimization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/search-engine-optimization.md), [no agenda network](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-network.md), [community](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/community.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Bill Clinton and Haitian Textile Manufacturing Plans (14:15–20:01) Former President Bill Clinton, acting as UN envoy to Haiti, discusses the progress of earthquake recovery efforts and the management of $8 billion in aid. Clinton outlines a plan to move textile manufacturing from Asia to Haiti to take advantage of proximity to the United States. Critics argue the plan focuses on corporate interests and cheap labor rather than immediate humanitarian needs like sanitation for millions living in tent camps during the rainy season. Keywords: [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), textile manufacturing, rainy season [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Sean Penn Criticizes Red Cross Operations in Haiti (20:01–24:12) Actor Sean Penn, managing a refugee camp in Port-au-Prince, criticizes the bureaucracy of international aid agencies and the American Red Cross. Penn claims the Red Cross has been out of the medical field for 50 years and is primarily a money-collection operation. He warns that without immediate spending on the Haitian people, the country will become a wasteland despite long-term rebuilding plans. Keywords: [sean penn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sean-penn.md), [american red cross](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-red-cross.md), [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [humanitarian aid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/humanitarian-aid.md), j/p hro [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta on Haiti Vaccinations (24:12–25:46) CNN's Anderson Cooper and Dr. Sanjay Gupta discuss the death of a Haitian boy from diphtheria, a preventable disease. They emphasize the need for widespread vaccination programs through UNICEF and other agencies. The podcast hosts criticize this focus, suggesting that the media prioritizes "vaccinate, vaccinate" narratives over the immediate survival concerns raised by Sean Penn. Keywords: [anderson cooper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anderson-cooper.md), [sanjay gupta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanjay-gupta.md), [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), diphtheria, [unicef](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unicef.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Bill Maher and Demographic Shifts in Europe and America (25:47–29:33) Comedian Bill Maher discusses demographic changes in Europe and the United States, suggesting that Arab and Mexican populations will eventually "breed their way to power." The segment features a panel with Salman Rushdie and a former Goldman Sachs executive. The hosts critique the "laugh track" nature of the show and the perceived lack of pushback against Maher's controversial statements on race and immigration. Keywords: [bill maher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-maher.md), [salman rushdie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salman-rushdie.md), [demographics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demographics.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/11.md) ### 12. U6 Unemployment Rate and College Graduate Debt (29:33–33:52) The U6 unemployment rate, which includes underemployed and discouraged workers, shows a slight increase despite official job growth reports. Discussion focuses on the plight of recent college graduates who are struggling with high debt and low-paying jobs. The hosts clarify that "small business" is often misdefined by the IRS and that government aid rarely reaches the mom-and-pop shops with fewer than 25 employees. Keywords: [u6 unemployment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/u6-unemployment.md), [college graduates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/college-graduates.md), [student debt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/student-debt.md), [manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing.md), [small business](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/small-business.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Stock Market Flash Crash and Fat Finger Theory (33:52–39:11) The May 6, 2010, stock market "Flash Crash" saw the Dow Jones Industrial Average drop nearly 1,000 points in minutes. While mainstream reports blame a "fat finger" trading error at Citibank, the hosts examine audio from the Chicago Mercantile Exchange pit during the collapse. They highlight a massive bet against the market placed ten minutes before the crash as evidence of a coordinated event rather than an accident. Keywords: [flash crash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flash-crash.md), [cme](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cme.md), fat finger theory, [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), s&p futures [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/13.md) ### 14. High-Frequency Trading Beta Test and Trader Zero (39:12–42:16) A theory is presented suggesting the recent market crash was a "beta test" of high-frequency trading code conducted by freelance programmers. The narrative involves a programmer flying into Chicago to recompile code and "flip the switch" on a financial earthquake machine before fleeing to Russia. This theory posits that the crash was a demonstration of power by financial entities rather than a technical glitch. Keywords: [high-frequency trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-frequency-trading.md), trader zero, [beta test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beta-test.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), financial earthquake machine [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Max Keiser and VST Trading Code Patents (42:17–45:57) Max Keiser, creator of the Hollywood Stock Exchange, is identified as the original patent holder for VST code, which was designed to combat market manipulation. The hosts explain that reverse-engineering this code resulted in modern high-frequency trading systems. Keiser reportedly lost his ability to reclaim the code after patent documents were destroyed in the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. Keywords: [max keiser](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/max-keiser.md), vst code, [cantor fitzgerald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cantor-fitzgerald.md), [world trade center](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-trade-center.md), [high-frequency trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-frequency-trading.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Elena Kagan Goldman Sachs Connection and Supreme Court (45:57–48:59) Solicitor General Elena Kagan is identified as a front-runner for a Supreme Court opening despite her past membership on a Goldman Sachs advisory panel. The White House stated that this affiliation would not disqualify her from the position. The hosts use this as evidence of the deep integration between the Obama administration and major Wall Street firms. Keywords: [elena kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elena-kagan.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [solicitor general](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/solicitor-general.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Extra TV Infidelity Gene and Life Changer Meme (49:02–53:52) The entertainment program Extra features a segment claiming scientists have discovered an "infidelity gene" present in 40% of men. The hosts highlight the repeated use of the term "Life Changer" to describe guests like Dr. Drew and Judge Janine Pirro. They mock the concept of a genetic excuse for cheating and predict a future vaccine will be marketed to "cure" infidelity. Keywords: [extra tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/extra-tv.md), infidelity gene, [dna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dna.md), life changer, [dr. drew](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-drew.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Listener Donations and Karma Club Updates (53:53–57:11) The hosts read a list of individual donors and discuss the No Agenda Karma Club, where listeners share anecdotes about positive outcomes following their donations. A correction is made regarding the pronunciation of donor Kim LaQuisee's name, clarifying that Kim is a male name in this instance. A birthday shout-out is also given to Nicole Arnold in Japan. Keywords: deborah hutchinson, [karma club](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma-club.md), [adwords](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adwords.md), kim laquisee, nicole arnold [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Knighting Ceremony for Sir Howard G. Hill (57:11–58:47) Howard G. Hill is formally knighted as "Sir Howard G. Hill of the No Agenda Roundtable" following a $1,000 donation to the show. The hosts explain the "Deuce Club" membership rules, which require a $200 donation and will soon close as they approach their 200th episode. They emphasize that these contributions are the sole source of funding for the podcast. Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), howard g. hill, [no agenda roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-roundtable.md), [deuce club](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deuce-club.md), [donation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Value for Value Model and Payment Alternatives (58:48–1:03:23) The hosts contrast their commercial-free model with Sirius XM and NPR, which they claim have become saturated with advertisements despite being paid services. They discuss the difficulties of using PayPal and explore alternatives like GunPal and Google Checkout. They argue that by removing commercials, they save listeners approximately five hours of time per month. Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [sirius xm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sirius-xm.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), gunpal, google checkout [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/20.md) ### 21. TSA Body Scanner Incident in Miami (1:03:24–1:05:34) A TSA worker at Miami International Airport reportedly assaulted a colleague after being mocked for the appearance of his genitalia in a full-body scanner. The hosts point out that this incident proves the scanners produce detailed nude images, contradicting government claims that the machines only show generic outlines. They criticize the mainstream media for focusing on the assault rather than the breach of privacy and "child porn" implications. Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [body scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-scanners.md), [miami international airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami-international-airport.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [fourth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fourth-amendment.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Dinosaur Train and High-Speed Rail Propaganda (1:05:35–1:10:32) The animated children's show Dinosaur Train is analyzed as a propaganda tool designed to normalize high-speed rail travel for the next generation. The hosts argue that the push for passenger rail in the U.S. is a "bait and switch" intended to benefit freight companies like Warren Buffett's Burlington Northern. They suggest the ultimate goal is to prioritize Chinese cargo over human travel. Keywords: dinosaur train, [high-speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), [warren buffett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/warren-buffett.md), [amtrak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amtrak.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/22.md) ### 23. National Train Day and Panama Canal Expansion (1:10:33–1:16:36) An undercover recording from a National Train Day expo features actors promoting the benefits of rail travel over flying. The discussion links these domestic rail initiatives to the expansion of the Panama Canal, which will allow larger Danish and South Korean ships to bypass West Coast ports. The hosts conclude that taxpayer-funded rail corridors are being built to expedite the transport of global goods across the American interior. Keywords: [national train day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-train-day.md), [panama canal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/panama-canal.md), [liquid natural gas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liquid-natural-gas.md), [burlington northern](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/burlington-northern.md), [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill Comparison (1:16:36–1:20:49) A BBC graphic comparing historical oil spills reveals that the Deepwater Horizon disaster is significantly smaller than many previous incidents, including the 1979 Ixtoc 1 spill. The hosts challenge President Obama's description of the event as the "biggest natural disaster in history." They suggest the environmental impact is being sensationalized to benefit an "oil cabal" and manipulate energy prices. Keywords: [deepwater horizon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deepwater-horizon.md), [bp oil spill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bp-oil-spill.md), exxon valdez, [gulf of mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gulf-of-mexico.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Volcanic Ash Flight Restrictions and Scientific Skepticism (1:20:50–1:23:19) A volcanologist reports that the decision to shut down European airspace due to Icelandic volcanic ash was "definitely exaggerated." The hosts note that the flight ban was initiated by the United Kingdom rather than the official volcanic ash alert center in Toulouse, France. This discrepancy leads to a theory that the grounding of flights was a political tool used during the UK election cycle. Keywords: eyjafjallajökull, [volcanic ash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volcanic-ash.md), [aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation.md), [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [toulouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toulouse.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/25.md) ### 26. UK General Election and Hung Parliament (1:23:20–1:26:40) The 2010 United Kingdom general election resulted in a "hung parliament," where no single party achieved an absolute majority. The hosts discuss the role of Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg in diluting the vote between Labour and the Conservatives. They suggest the outcome was engineered to create a coalition government, effectively putting the Queen and European interests in a position of greater influence. Keywords: [nick clegg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nick-clegg.md), [gordon brown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gordon-brown.md), [david cameron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-cameron.md), hung parliament, [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Sky News Confrontation Over Election Protests (1:26:40–1:29:52) Sky News presenter Kay Burley is criticized for her aggressive interview with a protester from the group 38 Degrees. Burley repeatedly asserted that the public "voted for a hung parliament," a claim the hosts describe as a false narrative. The segment highlights the media's role in discouraging public scrutiny of the "shady deals" occurring behind closed doors during coalition negotiations. Keywords: [sky news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sky-news.md), kay burley, 38 degrees, [democracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy.md), hung parliament [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/27.md) ### 28. European Bailout Fund and Lisbon Treaty Default (1:29:52–1:34:01) While the UK remains without a formal government, the Chancellor of the Exchequer is in Brussels negotiating an 80 billion euro bailout fund for struggling Eurozone nations. The hosts discuss a provision in the Lisbon Treaty that may default rule-of-law to the European Parliament during a constitutional crisis. They also speculate that renewed volcanic ash alerts are being used to subdue public unrest across Europe. Keywords: [lisbon treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisbon-treaty.md), [brussels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brussels.md), eurozone bailout, [greece](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greece.md), [european parliament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-parliament.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/28.md) ### 29. President's Cancer Panel Report and Chemical Exposure (1:34:02–1:36:25) The 2008-2009 President's Cancer Panel report concludes that Americans are being "bombarded" with cancer-causing chemicals and radiation. The American Cancer Society, which the hosts claim is heavily funded by chemical companies like Monsanto, reportedly downplayed the findings by focusing on lifestyle factors like obesity. The segment suggests that environmental causes of cancer are being systematically suppressed. Keywords: president's cancer panel, [american cancer society](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-cancer-society.md), [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [radiation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radiation.md), [chemicals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chemicals.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/29.md) ### 30. 30 Rock and Female Perspectives in Media (1:36:26–1:39:41) The hosts discuss the NBC show 30 Rock and its portrayal of modern women through the character Liz Lemon. They explore why the show, despite winning numerous awards, struggles to maintain a large female audience. A clip from a Mother's Day episode illustrates the "angst" and insecurities that the hosts believe make the show difficult for some women to watch. Keywords: [30 rock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/30-rock.md), [tina fey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tina-fey.md), [feminism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/feminism.md), [mother's day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mother-s-day.md), [television](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Kanellos the Greek Protest Dog (1:39:42–1:41:35) A stray dog named Kanellos has become a viral sensation for appearing in the front lines of numerous anti-austerity riots in Athens, Greece. The Guardian published a series of photos showing the same yellow dog barking at riot police across different protests. The hosts joke that the dog might be a spy or the actual leader of the Greek resistance movement. Keywords: kanellos, [athens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/athens.md), [greece](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greece.md), [riots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/riots.md), [the guardian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-guardian.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/31.md) ### 32. California Bureau of Investigation and Badge Conditioning (1:41:37–1:45:19) A scene from the television show The Mentalist features characters identifying themselves as members of the California Bureau of Investigation (CBI). The hosts use this to discuss "badge conditioning," where the public is trained to comply with anyone presenting a badge, regardless of the agency's legitimacy. They note that many people are unaware the CBI is a real division of the California Department of Justice. Keywords: cbi, [the mentalist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-mentalist.md), police badges, [conditioning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conditioning.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/198-things-could-get-complicated/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Pennsylvania Tax Amnesty and Mr. Nice Guy Ad (1:45:20–1:47:38) The Pennsylvania Department of Revenue released a threatening advertisement announcing the "imminent death of Mr. Nice Guy" regarding back taxes. The ad warns citizens that "things could get complicated" if they do not pay by June 18. The hosts characterize this as state-sponsored terrorism and suggest the aggressive tone is more suited to a mob enforcer than a government agency. 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