Immune Amnesia

00:00 We are creative people. Adam Curry. It's Sunday, October 4th, 2026. This is your award-winning Kipo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1909. This is No Agenda. That's right. It's Sunday, everybody, coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg, Texas. Another multi-hour media deconstruction lined up for you. Oh, man, we're looking for an October surprise now, aren't we? Coming up within just 90 seconds, he's back once again. The one and only Mr. Rob Dew, Sir Ducefer, ladies, gentlemen, and trolls of Keep My

00:45 Sir Witnessing the Arrival of a Mere Man. You are witnessing an event. A man whose reputation arrived five minutes before he did. Standing before you with no need for further introduction.

01:55 Sir Rob Dew has entered the building. Hi, everybody. Yeah, you got to hit us with a lisp. Hello. I'm here. Oh, my goodness. Was that Melo D? No, that was Sir John. He came in all of a sudden. Oh, goodness. Yeah, it's like the Suno V6 or whatever. And it's interesting. It's interesting. You know, the AI is going to take over, definitely, but I'm doing my best to try and hold them off as much as possible. No, please. Just wave the flag already, man. Use it. Use it or lose it. I'm telling you. Yeah, everyone's on. Well, you know, there's some interesting stuff about AI and music and what it could do.

02:40 Yeah, and what you're in, you're in the studio, right? You're recording stuff now? I'm recording stuff. We've been recording for the past month. Did some more recording yesterday. We're at this thing in New Orleans, and one of the bunch of lawyers doing presentations. Wait, wait, wait. What are you doing with what are you doing with a bunch of lawyers in New Orleans? That sounds bad. Well, that's how presidents get killed. Exactly. Oh, yeah. Absolutely right. But what happened was they're saying, well, we don't know. There's no precedent set yet. So say you make an AI song and you're making money off of it. At some point, these companies can go, hey, you owe us money. You made it with our system. We own your song, actually.

03:21 We're just going to take it. So they said that hasn't happened yet, but that could happen. So that's something to look out for if you are making money with this music. That could be an end around for because lawyers love to find money in certain places. If anyone comes for your stuff, man, you just call the suits and boots and you get Constitutional Lawyer Rob on the case. You'll be okay. Well, I'm not worried about my stuff. Definitely not worried about my, but there are people that I know that do this a lot. And we had a guy with us who all of his songs are AI that he's made and he sings to with them. He does the singing, but all the instrumentation is AI. And he didn't seem worried about it.

04:00 Well, from what I understand, the Suno deal is, you know, all these labels came after them and they said, okay, well, we'll make it like this because, you know, apparently they have technology. They can detect exactly where certain pieces of sound came from. I don't know if it's composition, but there's got to be some recorded sound, obviously. And so they have some way of calculating which of the publishing companies owns what. And so Suno had to cut this deal with him so that you cannot, you can no longer download songs. You can only download them once or twice if you pay an extra amount per month.

04:42 But what I'm seeing, because a while back, and I forget what the reason was, but John and I were talking like, oh, I'll put No Agenda back on Spotify. And so put it back on Spotify and every other episode gets taken down. And it's always like music violation, music violation. And they have, you know, I'm sure they're robots. are just looking for any music and just, let's better be safe than sorry. But it's always for end of show mixes. Right. And right. Yeah, exactly. So today it won't be. Oh, if you follow my protocol, I have two into show mixes that I recorded myself. Oh, boy. I didn't even see them in your EOS. Yeah. And it had to do with a trip I took.

05:24 I took a one-night little trip with a friend, a friend of mine, who's in the band. And he was leading a drum circle. And he's like, hey, you want to come? And he's like, I have an extra ticket. And I said, sure. Is it a drum circle where you smoke weed and sit in a circle and hit the drums? Is that basically the drum circle? That is one version of a drum circle. There wasn't a lot of weed being passed around at this. That's a bogus drum circle. That one's no good. You should get your money back. Well, you know, I didn't have to pay anything, but it was called Medicine for the People. And it's sort of like a gathering. It's a very hippie gathering. And I'm thinking there's going to be weed everywhere. And these people like to mix weed with tobacco. That's their smoke it, man.

06:09 That's it. Right. It's a European thing. Yeah. Because when I was in Switzerland, that's how they smoked it. Yeah, it's called a spliff. That's exactly right. And so he was, this guy actually started the drum circle for this group. He kind of led it for years and now it's huge. And so he's still there. And I brought my little, I have a gourd drum, which is basically a hollowed out gourd. And so it's very lightweight. Most of these drums that people carry around, you know, you have to have a wagon and pull these things because they're so damn big and heavy. But I have my little gourd drum and I'm just, but I saw, but on my way to the drum circle, there's this tent and I hear this beautiful flute music playing.

06:49 I'm like, oh, what's this? I go in there and everybody's laying down like meditating. And this dude's playing flute and he's got sound bowls. His girlfriend or wife, I guess is his wife, is this basically doing the sound bowl. This is a satanic circle, is what I'm hearing. No, I don't, you know what? I never heard people talk about God so much. Oh, really? Oh, okay. I'm serious. I'm serious. It was a lot of praise the Lord, praise Jesus. I never, and I was surprised at how many times I'd heard it. I actually started taking a mental note. By like the fourth time, I'm like, this is getting interesting. Wow. Didn't think, but I think the hippie kind of culture is a little more, they're a little more God-based than like your typical raving culture if you were to go to like a raving ceremony.

07:33 You mean Burning Man, yes. Yeah, if you were to go to Burning Man, there's not a lot of God talk there. I think they kick out the God people if they start talking too much. No God on the plya. Exactly. Exactly. Only dust and whatever drugs you can find. Mud. And mud. Yeah. Well, speaking of mud, we got ACL this weekend, and it's a mud ball. Oh, my God. Tina said to me, said, you could not pay me to go there. We've been, I think, we went together twice, I think. And even then, it was like, you know, when you see teenage girls just fall flat on their face, be a blackout drunk. It's like, I'm too old for that, man. I don't understand how they could get that drunk because you got to wait 45 minutes to get a beer.

08:18 You got to wait 45 minutes to get to the bathroom. So I don't know how you even watch music at these things. Unless you have the, what is the, it's such an elitist thing, like the golden pass. You pay $1,200 and then you get the special. It's basically to get access to a bar. Right. And then you get some seats up front. I think it's become Austin is elite. Oh, big time. Let's face it. Austin's. That's why I live in Driftwood. Yeah, exactly. You got to get out. Get out of Austin. So I'm looking at your clip list and, man, I can just tell you put together a no-agenda list of clips. I mean, I am loving what, of course, rules are. I don't listen to anything beforehand. But since you had such a grand entrance, you threw off your dressing gown.

09:03 You had the babes with you, a big WW entrance. I will let you choose wherever you want to go first because I don't think there's a single thing that is not spot on the money that I'm seeing on your list. Well, here's the interesting thing. I saw the show art for the last show, and it had the plumber flying the plane. So I look at that and I'm like, oh, they covered this already. And then I listened to the show with you and Horowitz, who I think did a great job as well. Horowitz, you know, especially with his long-winded clips of nothing going on. The static stuff. That was great. Yeah. You know, the thing is, the thing with Andrew, he's like, how to do?

09:39 How to do? He said, you were great, man. It's like, you know, thank you. It's awesome. And then I see him on X and he's answering people and he's engaging and like, oh my Lord. And you text me again. Well, what's the verdict? I said, well, as you'd expect, a lot of people love you. Some hate you. A lot of people. people hate you. Some love you. It's like, it's, it's X, man. But it's gone to his head. Already gone to his head. I mean, I have, first of all, this is not an audition. You know, it's like everyone's, well, that's the guy. Oh, no, he's the guy. That's the guy. This is the guy. That's the guy. Hey, everyone's the guy. I like what this is, what's happening right now with the different co-hosts because, you know, I don't have the pressure of having to come up with clips.

10:20 I don't know how you do it, but like just thinking about it and going, oh, I got to find these clips and do this. Or that's a good clip. I'm going to send it to myself and get it later. Right. You know, and being able to hear everybody's perspective and the way you timed it out with Calcanis having his big symposium and you get him on right after that. Like you had it timed perfectly. That was Providence. I had no idea. I had no idea. I really didn't. I didn't know. I don't know. I'm glad he did it. I mean, when you do something like that, and I'd sent him the invite from Rotterdam, so it popped up at 6 a.m. his time. So he didn't even see it. And I'm like, hey, dude, you coming on the show? Like, oh, oh, oh, crap. Wow, give me five minutes to freshen up. Let me let the dogs out.

11:06 He's definitely a country boy because he goes outside to, or was it, it was him or Dana? Like, let me go outside. I have to go use the bathroom. I'll be right back. That's Dana. That's Dana. That was Dana. Getting all the perspectives from everybody and then having Horowitz come in. And you guys are talking the financials and AI and what's going on because we really, you know, you've been hitting the AI drum in the drum circle. You're the guy in there talking about AI the whole time while people are trying to drum. And it's, you really have been hitting it hard, but it's, it's been, you know, and I'm taking a step back because I'm like, uh, AI. I'm like, uh, there's guys in the office that love it. And I'm just like, whatever. To me, it's another flash in the pan trend.

11:47 But I do see some things happening on our end in our in our media operation over here. In your workflow. Yeah, where people are doing it. Not just to make fun videos because that's great. And I love the funny videos. And I usually, I'm an idea guy. I'll throw out an idea about something and these guys put it together. I'm like, look what I did. But building pieces of software that we're going to use in production. That I think, and what you've already done. Exactly. Yep. That's going to be the game changer because software makers make crappy software. I don't know why, but they'll make it with little guardrails in it that don't help your production flow.

12:27 Well, they're also. And you don't realize it till you get into that flow. And then you're like, wait a minute, why can't we play this clip? Oh, it hasn't been turned into the right code. So you're nailing it on this. This is the first thing I realized with the coding agents is software. I told Horowitz, short Microsoft, man. It's like, I don't use a spreadsheet. I don't use Excel. I don't even use LibreOffice anymore. I just made a donation spreadsheet reader that doesn't, you know, snap cells and it pulls out the jingle requests. And then, you know, I can click on it and the jingle loads up. And that's what I needed. And I think it's phenomenal for that. So are we going to go with your death of software? Let's do death of software. Now, before you play it real quick,

13:11 it's video game related. It's also spot on. Yeah. Right. It's very interesting. This is one guy talking to himself. You know, it's the different perspectives. So when you hear two people talking, it's the same guy. You mean on TikTok or is this YouTube? You know, I find everything on X at this point, but it probably was on TikTok. I probably cut out the TikTok ending, though. But yeah, so it's in three parts and we could talk about each section. I kind of cut them up where there's a good spot to talk about things. You're really into Modern Warfare 2. Why are you giving me that look? Isn't that so cool? And AI did that. Oh, my gosh. Please tell me you're not one of those AI protesters.

13:52 No, it's not that. What is it then? An AI reverse engineered an entire video game. And that's not new. No, it's entirely new. Reverse engineering is one of the most complex and time-consuming tasks in software development. Okay. Don't you get it? GBT and Claude have released models intelligent enough to perform tasks that were deemed so difficult, they were considered a form of security. What are you trying to get at? Listen, as much as you see a game in front of you that you know and love, this is about the security and copyright protection of every single piece of software ever developed in human history. Look at what the times. Artists have been having to deal with this for years now. If anything, it's how I pay back to the tech world. No, no, no, you're not understanding. I'm talking about every single product you use. Games, mobile apps, desktop software.

14:35 They're going to be reverse engineered and understood faster than human beings can protect them. The entire world runs on the assumption that some information is computationally impractical to uncover. Your bank account, military communications, government intelligence, authentication systems. systems, private messaging, understanding millions of lines of encrypted, undocumented code were supposed to be the security. The start is all fun and cute. Games are being reverse engineered, but then pay-for services become free. Yeah. That's right. You want Dropbox? Don't pay for Dropbox. Just make your own. Make it yourself. Yeah, make your own Dropbox. And what they're talking about is there's a game called Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2.

15:13 Yeah. And some people hacked it apparently. And now you can play Halo, which is like one of the original first-person shoot-em-up games. Now you can bring in your Halo characters into that. And there's other games that are doing this. But that's, you know, he's taking when I heard this clip, I'm like, this is what you and Horowitz were talking about, but not as dramatic with the background music. Well, and we don't talk to ourselves. There's a difference there. It's one of the trolls, Tesla Coyle said, death of software, the rise of maker brands. I like that. The rise. Yeah, maker brands. But that could lead to some interesting things.

15:52 Like, what happens if you're, you know, some guy doesn't like the power company and he's like, you know what? I'm going to make sure that they're giving me the right rates. And then they re-engineer the electric. Can they re-engineer the electrical grid? Can people do that? Or will that happen in the future? Are we two months away from that happening or two years away? Well, it is October. We're waiting for the surprise. So anything that AI can do to make Trump look bad would be this would be the next four weeks. This is the time to do it before the election. That's it. That's exactly it. All right, we'll go to two. Next, we'll be old government infrastructure, banks running on 20-year-old software, telecom networks, satellites, systems that nobody would want to replace because it would cost them billions.

16:33 Okay, you're starting to freak me out. Then trust disappears. We'll get to the point where markets close because they don't know which transactions are legitimate. Banks freeze transfers. Companies stop accepting digital payments. Governments isolate their networks. Supply chains lose their scheduling systems. Ports stop moving cargo. Hospitals disconnect their equipment from networks. Airlines ground all their flights. We are talking about the disappearance of all white-collar jobs. Swipe a card and food appears. You press a button and gasoline moves across the continent. Click by, and 10 companies, three banks, two warehouses, a satellite, and a truck driver coordinate without you ever seeing it.

17:18 And it all goes away. Nobody knows whether it's Russia or China, some corporation, or a 16-year-old sitting in his bedroom. You know what? That's his mom's basement. You know what this? Well, we'll play your kicker. Then I want to play a throwback clip of what this reminds me of. Do you need to set this up or is this just this? No, the kicker is just the end of it. But what's interesting also is this is, he appears to be a Gen Z talking about this. You know, you would think it would be more of a Luddite class like yourself or Horowitz will be doing this. How about what do you mean, Luddite? I'm part of the Luddite class. I'm more of those people that doesn't, I don't, I hate upgrading anything. I hate it. It's terrible. So I consider myself part of the Luddite class.

18:01 Okay, here we go. I'm afraid we've opened Pandora's box, but humanity hasn't even recognized it yet because we've been too excited holding the lid. And now it's become the mark of the beast. The birthing pains of the rapture. The second coming of the nuclear bomb. But instead of fission, it's just text. Text. Did you see they also put Minecraft in Skyrim? That's good. It's just text. It's just text. Death by text. Sir Gene had an interesting question for me this morning.

18:43 He sent me a link to what is this thing called? The pseudo by New Matter. And it's basically an iPod. And he says, and it's, you know, they sell it for $2.99, has all your music downloaded or streaming. And his question is: are the alphas tired of smartphones? It might be. It might be. But I don't think we have any idea what is coming, what is going to happen other than severe disruption. But I think severe disruption of companies that have essentially held us hostage for decades with their crappy software.

19:24 Well, you know, they're trying when you make software, and I've been involved in software projects and service projects. You try to make it work for everybody. And ultimately, it works for nobody. It doesn't really do the thing exactly the way you want to do it. Or, you know, you're hitting menus and going left and right. And you have to remember how the computer. computer is not working for you. You're working the computer. And that is the thing that to me is so exciting, particularly with Linux. I'm sorry, GNU Linux and Omachi, which was really built around the whole concept of your agents built in and you tell it what you need it to do, and it's going to build that for you right there on your computer.

20:07 And in fact, I did, I made something the other day, which was very simple for me. You know what an MCP server is? I'm not even sure what it stands for, but it's a thing, it's a server that sits in front of a, for better, for lack of a better term, a data source. And it exposes tools and ways that your agent, your bot, you know, I just keep calling it a robot, that your robot can interact with that data source. And so I happen to be co-owner of a large data source being the podcast index, podcastindex.org, which is, you know, we don't charge for it.

20:49 It's really for developers and app developers and to keep podcasting open and free so no one captures it and see Spotify and Apple. Spotify dropped a billion dollars. They couldn't turn it into a walled garden. It just didn't work. Even when hiring Rogan, it just didn't work because podcasting is, you know, in a way like Bitcoin. It's just open, free, and it's kind of industrial. RSS, I should say, is it flows. It flows and it was always meant to flow. So I created an MCP server, which allows your robot to really ask for any kind of information on the index.

21:25 So, you know, and I've given some examples. I said, well, I want what, you know, whenever a new episode of Rogan comes out, let me know, show me who's on the show, what the topic is. And if it's an MMA show, don't even bother me. And so the robot is now tracking that. It's called podcastindexrobot.com. And it's interesting. Maybe 15% of people are like, Curry, you're taking this into the Armageddon. I hate you. You're peddling. You shill. You're peddling slap. But the rest are like, wow, I can actually find podcasts. This has always been the problem of podcasting: discovery. That's why. Because nobody can advertise.

22:08 It's hard to advertise for a new podcast. Well, here's the crazy thing. So I was talking about this with Dave Jones, my partner, on the, we call it the board meeting, Podcasting 2.0. It's on Fridays. And actually, it would be great, Sir Bemrose, if you line it up for after today's show. It might be fun for people to listen to. And so we're chatting away. And then, you know, I'm just rolling this out. I hadn't told Dave what I was doing. And he's looking at it. He says, hmm, okay. And they say, well, let's, you know, because now basically the podcast indexrobot.com does nothing. It just exposes a way for robots to access the data. And so he did a little experiment. You know, robot, go get me the most recent episode of Ed Zittron's Better Offline.

22:50 Now, I don't even know who Ed Zittron is, but he's the guy that correctly is saying that all these companies, it's a big circular financing bubble and it's going to blow up. I've heard that. The moving of funds. Yeah, probably not wrong. But he has six minutes of advertising at the beginning of the show, all dynamically inserted. And so I say, Robot, go get the most recent episode of EdZitron and just cut off the ads. Dude. Like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. Okay, here it is. I cut out, you know, better help, sleep well, Chevron, and they told me what it cut out.

23:27 And I hit the play button and boom, it started right with this podcast. So this, and that's not how I'm marketing it, but that is just an example of the power that the people now have. And it's going to disrupt everything. And so I 100% agree. It's definitely, especially the software industry. You're 100% right about the software. Well, but think about Armageddon that's going to happen. Not a lot of people are using it yet, but three years, it's going to be a whole different ball campaign. Oh, it's going to be three months. I mean, think about music. Music is software. It's just software. There's no difference between a podcast and music or a sermon or a YouTube video.

24:08 It's all software. That's how you got to look at this stuff. Now, luckily, these things aren't, you know, I don't know about Elon Musk and his robots, yes, or whatever. I see a robot doing the dishes very slowly. That would be quite frustrating for my $50,000. But this reminds me of David Bowie's 1999 interview with Jeremy Paxman on the BBC. I don't think we've even seen the tip of the iceberg. I think the potential of what the internet is going to do to society, both good and bad. and bad, is unimaginable. I think we're actually on the cusp of something exhilarating and terrifying.

24:50 It's just a tool, though, isn't it? No, it's not. No. No, it's an alien life form. What do you think? I mean, when you think then about that, it's simply a different delivery system there. You were arguing about something more profound. Oh, yeah, I'm talking about the actual context and the state of content is going to be so different to anything that we can really envisage at the moment, where the interplay between the user and the provider will be so insempatico. It's going to crush our ideas of what mediums are all about.

25:30 Boom. Boom. Did he say envisage? Is that the word he used? Envisage. Did you say envision? Envision. Everything that we can really envisage at the moment. Yeah, envision. Anything we can envision. He's a Brit. Envisage. Envision, imagine, envisage, envisage. But he was right. He was a little early, but he was right. I missed that guy. There's clips of Jim Morrison talking about sort of the same thing, but with music. He said, eventually you're just going to have a guy playing loops over and over again. And people say to me, like, well, there'll always be live music. I say, yeah, but let me tell you, let me burst your bubble. 99% of all live music, commercial live music,

26:17 bigger than a bread box venue and even such, is all using multi-tracks. Everybody, and if you don't know what multi-tracks is, it's essentially you're playing along to your own music and the engineer on the board can mix. If the bass guy couldn't show up, put the bass in. Oh, we don't have horns, but they sound good on the record, so we'll add the horns. I mean, ANXS was doing this in 1987. Who was the best at it? Millie Vanilli. Well, they were doing everything. That was the ultimate multi-tracks. And they want a Grammy. Come on, man. What's the problem? That's how you know it's all junk.

26:57 So let's not stick on AI, but go to the Fly Dubai because as I said on the last episode with Horowitz, I said, until we get the CVR and the CD, so the flight, the data recorder, and the cockpit voice recorder, we really won't know. All data that we have is flawed. Every eyewitness has a different version of the accounts. It dipped a little, then it dipped more. I'm not seeing videos of overhead bins opened and people crushed against the back, which would happen with a 36-degree decision. Well, 6,000 feet per minute.

27:42 Yeah, tailfin ripped off. That is indicative of some very overspeeding. But still, even Boeing is probably scratching their heads if it really was exceeding VNE by 100 knots. Like, okay, well, man, we built a good plane. Yeah, Trump gave him a shout out on his Truth Social saying, they've made a great plane. Well, imagine. Imagine President Trump using that to tout American industry. Imagine. What did you bring? Okay, so this clip's kind of old, but this came out. When I say old, it came out, I think, Thursday, the day of the show. But I'm like, I need to bring this to the show because this is Aaron Burnett interviewing a couple pilots who are in a simulator.

28:27 Oh, goodness. And it's my favorite. The guy off to the left is the older captain. And then the guy on the right, I guess he's playing the part of the Indian pilot who got axed with the hatchet or whatever, the crash axe. And I've heard different things. Like they were stabbing him. And I'll get to that in a second. But this is the first one where she asked him, and he kind of sets it up what they're going to do. And I'm sure people have seen this, but you never know if people haven't seen it. It was interesting to hear. So I wanted to bring it to share over here. Fly Dubai 1. Back and forth and back and forth. And most people on that plane have probably been on that route many times. And you look down and it's desert pretty much the whole way.

29:07 So you're just kind of lolled there staring into space and then it drops more than 20,000 feet in 35 seconds, finally topping out at a speed we understand of 700 miles an hour plus. So can you just show us what that looks like? We certainly can. And Aaron, hello. Thanks for inviting us onto the show tonight and all your viewers, of course. Angelo is going to take us through exactly that procedure that happened to the Fly Dubai flight. flight. I will be trying to give everyone a bit of a little bit of information on what's happening on the primary flight display as we go along. And if you can give us the external view of the aircraft when you're ready, Angela. Thank you.

29:48 There we are with the fly Dubai. That's the 800 model right there. And right there is the overspeed warning. And I'm going to just get my hand in here if I can. It's hard pointing a little bit on the screen. If you can see my hand on the left side of that screen right there, there's the barber pole indicating the overspeed. We're looking at nothing but ground on the grim reflecting display on the attitude here and the jet. And you can take a look in the center of your screen. That is approximately what we would have seen. We are now recovering at about 18, 17, 16,000. You perhaps a little more of a dive than the aircraft did today. Yeah, this is why we need the cockpit voice recorder. Did we hear the overspeed warning?

30:30 We really just don't know anything. But I appreciate Aaron Burnett saying, well, you know, you're just sitting there just playing. Trying to set it up. You're just sitting around looking at the desert. That's what we do. Pilots. Yeah. We just sit around and look at the desert. Okay. And so I've heard lots of different stories. One of which Sir Scott sent me. I don't know if he sent this one to you, but a guy, Captain Steve or something. He has a big use. Of course. Captain Steve. Captain Steve is never wrong. Steve. He interviewed. He interviewed. Well, what's funny is at the end, Captain Steve starts talking about the helper. And Mr. Rogers, he's like, there's helpers out there. Helpers helped. They pulled the bad guy out of the cockpit.

31:13 Other helpers were deadhead pilots and they showed up. And I'm just like, wow, he's really debasing it down to like, you know, kindergarten level. This is insane. Which makes, you know, I'm looking at the whole thing going, what they're telling us, I don't think happened. No. Because you look at the videos, you look at the pictures. There was one that I posted, and there's a cup of water in the guy's drink holder. And, you know, people are like, well, how to cover on it. I'm like, okay, do you think that cup of water is going to stay there when this thing does a 36-degree dip? And one guy's saying it also made it bank to the left as it was descending. There's another guy saying, well, he shut off the engines because the emergency lights were on.

31:58 And you can see that from the video. And you know, the plumber, he pulled back on. He pulled up on the stick and he relit the engines. No doubt. And then there's the plumber. Yeah. Did he know to flash the engines? I mean, how is this guy going to pull him out of a dive like that? You're like, okay, this is Pecos, Bill, and Paul Bunyan. This is a tall tale. I know that. Why? I don't know. But there was, you know, there was a supposed attack that was thwarted at the Capitol. There was another one in Manchester. And, you know, these are all going after Jewish-type organizations. So this is another in that line of things. Well, maybe they had an incident up in the air where the rudder came off. And they're like, okay, let's figure out a way to make us the victim. That could be a whole nother thing, too.

32:42 Hey, the plane is falling apart. I got Boeing stock. Quick, hit me with that. Exactly. Yeah. So here's the, I think this is the part where the pilot says, hey, you know, I can't believe they're at this speed descending. So this is number two. I know there were some people, they said they were sort of standing by the bathroom, right? They would have fallen immediately. I mean, frankly, it's miraculous with something like that that people didn't get more seriously injured or die. We have seen a stick shaker. It's the overspeed warning that's clicking away in the background, not the stick shaker. Stick shakers at the other end of the spectrum where you're stalling the aircraft. So that is still going. We are just coming into about 500 knots. So some of the numbers that we're seeing from the reporting initially are,

33:25 they don't make sense to me because if you're designing how rapidly the aircraft would have disintegrated completely. So the numbers will change when we get to preliminary reports. That's interesting. Because those, I mean, as you point out, those are only the numbers that we have right now. But interesting that you said that that could have caused it to break apart. Yeah. You know what other numbers were unbelievable? The twin tower speeds of those aircraft at an altitude that was too low for them even to fly that fast. I mean, so we have no data. I don't know why we don't have it yet. Well, listen, I've been told on X by several people that I'm an idiot and that the data is out there.

34:05 And I just, I'm not looking at the data correctly. Oh, okay. That's what I've been told. I'm like, I don't believe this is how it happened. And I'm like, you don't see the data? It shows it right here. It was only 14,000 feet at the ADSB, man. We got the data. We got the data. And the Captain Steve interview, the guy's like, as soon as we landed, I accessed the flight data and I saw that we fell almost 20,000 feet. And he's like, I thought it was. was 1,000. He's in the plane. He thinks it was 1,000 feet that they went down. So there's all kinds of conflicting stories. But this last part concerns the rudder, which is a visible thing you can see.

34:42 You're like, okay, the plane's missing a rudder. So something happened up in the sky where this rudder pops off, which I think this plane had problems with. Wasn't there a crash in, was it Pennsylvania where they thought they were turning right, but it was making it go right even more or something? I don't know. This happened in the late 90s, I think. I'm sorry. You mean Denzel Washington where he flew it upside down? No, that was a movie. Oh, I'm sorry. It seemed real to me. All right, let's do it over three, the rudder. We do know there was damage on the rudder, right? From whatever the speeds actually will turn out to be. And portions of it apparently tore away during flight. Now, obviously, with serious damage to the rudder, a plane's going to crash.

35:22 So when you just look at what we know here, how fortunate do you think it is that this plane was actually even able to safely land? Well, when I saw the images of the aircraft on the ground with the rudder section torn out, I immediately had a cold chill because the amount of damage that that would cause hydraulic systems, electrical systems, especially hydraulics, once you start ripping apart electronic or sorry, hydraulics, you start to bleed electronic fuel, or hydraulic fuel. Excuse me, I'll get my words right here. And that would have affected other systems in the airplane. The saving grace on this one is that the vertical fin.

36:04 So you'll see the vertical fin of the aircraft, and then the rudder is at the rear portion, the rear portion of that. That rudder was torn away. The vertical fin was what saved the day because that gave the aircraft directional stability. And I do not know how much longer they could have flown it after they landed because of the loss of hydraulic fluid due to the rudder being removed from the aircraft. So this is a very incredible story, but the MAX 8. We've seen the MAX 8 in the news before. I've been certainly involved with that. And to see this aircraft land safely after going, I think it went supersonic momentarily. I think that MAX 8 is fully redeemed. Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, that's fully redeemed.

36:46 Oh, the MAX 8 is fully redeemed. Successful. Oh, this plane is not only safe, it's super-duper safe. That's right. So I just did a book of knowledge search, and it was US Air Flight 427, September 8th, 1994. It had a rudder hardover. And I think you've talked about this on the show probably five or six years ago, but it was a Boeing 737. I think it was when the Boeing Airbus wars were going on. What was the flight number? US Air Flight 427. And they called it a rudder hardover, where I guess they think, or they're seeing the rudder go one way and they're trying to correct it, but it's actually going the opposite way. So they're making it worse. And then by the time they realize that, it was too late. They killed 132 people.

37:30 Well, whatever this was, and we should find out. I mean, eventually they just need to release the data. And even my Israeli friends, you know, the ones who pay me $7,000 to shill for Israel? Oh, yeah. They, you know, they're so convinced, you know, because the way Netanyahu came out, you know, another 9-11, 9-11 style attack, 9-11, 9-11, you know, terrorists, there's boogeyman everywhere. And by the way, you know, there's boogeymen everywhere. Absolutely. But now we have more proof. This is the first time that we are able to report the name of the suspected attacker of that Fly Dubai flight.

38:13 According to one of the sources we spoke to, his name is Hammam Al-Hammami. He was born in the United Arab Emirates to an Omani father and a Syrian mother. We found a LinkedIn page that has since been taken down. The same LinkedIn where John C. Dvorak posed as a woman with that name, which one of those sources confirmed as being the same co-pilot of that Fly Dubai flight. This LinkedIn page shows him having worked for Oman Air for seven years until February of 2025 before joining Morocco's flagship airline.

38:51 I also spoke to a source who confirmed that the co-pilot of this Fly Dubai flight had indeed worked for that very same Moroccan national airline. But what's most interesting is what is on that LinkedIn profile. So basically they went to the Wayback Machine page. There is a video that was posted from the cockpit of an airplane at Dubai airport that shows El Al Planes, Israel's flagship carrier. That video ends with a photo of Ayman al-Zawahiri, the Al-Qaeda leader who took over after Osama bin Lee. bin Laden's death. Because that's what you do as an airline pilot. You want to post pictures and videos of El Al and then a terrorist.

39:33 This will get me a promotion. This will get me somewhere. Another man is also shown at the end of that video. That man was responsible for a 2009 suicide bombing in Afghanistan. Yeah. All right. But there's more from CNN because CNN's got it, man. Now, that video was actually posted about nine hours after Hamami allegedly tried to hijack that Fly Dubai flight. Hold on a second. Wait a minute. So that was posted. It was posted after. After this I was taken into custody. So who's posted that? I don't know. It's not clear how that video got off. Yeah, not clear. Not clear. Okay. Well, you just completely associated the video with him, but now it's not clear. Whether it was pre-scheduled, whether he had.

40:16 Prescheduled. Ah, yes. I know what I'm doing. Let me preschedule. This is my suicide note. I'm going to put it up here. Crappy suicide note, bro. Somebody else posted. We've also analyzed a deleted Twitter account that shows Hamami railing against mixed gender workplaces and expressing other misogynistic. Oh, it wasn't that slow. Not that bad. And some deeply religious views as well. So you take all that information. You also. What does that even mean? Deeply religious views as well. Why don't you tell us what that is? It was a lahaq bar. Well, over and over. It's rather bothersome that didn't mention.

40:57 And some deeply religious views as well. So you take all that information. You also take the fact that we have multiple sources saying that he was removed from flight training at Oman Air last year. Multiple sources. Unnamed. Come on, CNN. So now he's flying with Fly Dubai. I guess they don't check the LinkedIn page. I mean, they're literally doing chat GPT lookups now. They are just so phoning this in. Over concerns about his extremist views. And then somehow he gets hired at Fly Dubai. Now, we don't know whether Fly Dubai was aware of these radical views that he had, whether they had conducted a thorough background check.

41:40 All of that is still unknown at this point. And Fly Dubai for now is not commenting, saying that there is an ongoing investigation. Yeah. Well, the public demands information. You have this information. There was no crash. It's been recorded. Give it up. Give it up already. Give it up. I think there's a reason they're not because the tale that's already out there is like, well, we'll just leave this floating around. And I think it's going to be a lot less. It's not going to be as fast. There was probably something that happened with the rudder. Maybe there was a disagreement with this guy. Who knows? Maybe there is a guy with blood on his shirt. And there's a guy with blood on his head. Maybe they were arguing over hummus. I mean, anything is possible. Exactly.

42:20 Anything is possible because everything I've heard is there was a fight. It wasn't like a fight, the guy's trying to stop him to crash the airplane. There was a fight and a bad fight. And it was an Indian and an Arab, so it could have been anything. Right. I mean, who knows what they were fighting over? Yeah. Somebody did, there's a lot of fun video posted of the, it's this meme video of these two Indian guys cussing each other out, or they could be Pakistani. I don't know. But they're like, here's the flight recorder. You effing effer. I'm going to kill you. Which I'm like, yeah, that's what I think happened. Well, the parody videos are just off the hook.

43:01 Oh, yeah. That stuff is. I mean, my favorite has got to be friends, comrades. Have you seen those? Oh, yes, yes, yes. In the style of friends with Shea Guevara and Stalin and Mao and Pinochet. All right, this stuff has gotten good. There was an animated group who, like the morning of this thing happening, I guess these guys are somewhere where they get up before us. They already had a Japanese anime style of this thing happening. But they're all, you know, they're kind of, they're all white people, like whitish with big eyes. And so the co-pilot pulls out his knife and just starts attacking the guy going, oh, then like people are running in and grabbing the guy. And it's all, you know, they're cutting to news reports and the plane's safely on the ground.

43:45 You know, you're a pilot. Yeah. Is it possible that the way they're explaining this story, that it dropped like this, whether the engines were cut off or not, is it possible to pull yourself out of a dive like that at that speed and altitude? Well, the question is like that. I mean, what is that? I still don't know what the dive was. We do not have to do that. Well, based on what they're saying on these images, they're showing images of this flight path, which are from websites that supposedly track these planes. Yeah, I would say it should be possible, but okay, I can't believe you even got into that amount of speed in the dive.

44:27 And just pull, as the president said, pulling up on the stick, pulling back on the controls, there would be a high likely or a possibility that you'd rip the ailerons off. I mean, you'd have to go real easy, and you would have to retard the engines. I love saying retard the engines. It's my favorite. But you could, a plumber, plumber strength, would be able to do it. Only if he watched air crash investigations. Exactly. He would need the knowledge. Hey, stabilizers on. I'm happy. Everybody's safe. Whatever happened up there. That's the good news. And we'll have to see. But I am anxiously, I've just checked out my favorite pilot forums.

45:09 There's no data. So most of the smart guys are going like, you're just blowing in the wind. We don't know. We don't know anything. And we get the data, which is why I joined Pilots for 9-11 Truth. I saw the data. I'm like, this is bogus. That was my proof. I'm like, no, the data you actually gave us, whether it's true or not, is not possible. It's not possible. Is Hani Hanjour's corkscrew into the Pentagon? Beautiful. A guy who couldn't even fly a Cessna. That's the best one. And the thing flew over the Pentagon at about 170 feet, according to their own data. So I don't know what it was, but it doesn't seem like it was a plane. Now, this other story popped up, which I'm still looking for October surprises.

45:51 We need, you know, the elites of the world who, and by the way, that's some of the trolls in our very own troll room who hate Donald Trump and do not want him to have any type of victory, the Republicans, anything. They'll do anything. There's a lot more riding on who runs Congress than a couple of lives. So they don't care. So an October surprise. It's got to be AI related. I don't think the terror thing that works great for Netanyahu. His election is on the 27th. He's going to milk that for all it's worth. And I can't blame him. That's what you do. I mean, if I was on that plane, I'd be milking it. I'd be on CNN. I'd be raking in the dough.

46:36 I watched the documentary on his supposed corruption, or what are they saying is corruption. And it was like getting cigars and champagne delivered. I'm like, that's it? Trump? About Trump? No, no, no. Netanyahu. Oh, he was receiving bribes. And I'm like, okay, this is going to be juicy. And it's like, it's not all that great. He got cigars and he got champagne and his wife may have gotten some jewelry. Which, okay. There's nothing about it. Well, he wasn't killing. It didn't seem like they had evidence of him killing people or October 7th stand down, which that's what I was looking for. I'm like, let's see the evidence. I want to see the evidence. I need your standard. I need your Venmo for Hasbra. They want to say $7,000. $7,000. I said something nice. I'm just like,

47:21 how is this the level of we have a special report about Netanyahu? Yeah. I don't think he's a good guy. Well, that was. Tucker was touting that. Is that his tucker? He replayed someone else's documentary that was a year old, but he kind of brought it out. He remarketed it, essentially, for his audience, his Tucker Audience. He seems like he's disappeared. Well, no, not on my feed. He's everywhere. He was talking about how math is invented by the Jews to imprison people. I'm like, really? Okay. Well, I don't like math either, but I'm not going to go that far.

47:59 All right. Here is the latest possible October surprise. A deadly case of the plague in Russia's southern Siberian region of Irkutsk has put nearly 200 people under quarantine. The regime Independent Moscow Times has reported. A lab worker contracted the disease after she reportedly broke a test tube containing live plague bacteria. According to local outlets, she was collecting samples for testing when the incident, believed to be an accident, occurred. Suffering from symptoms of acute pneumonia, she was put on a ventilator on Tuesday, but succumbed to the disease on Thursday. An entire hospital with people who could have come in contact with the infected person has been placed under isolation. According to local authorities, there have been no outbreaks of the plague so far.

48:44 Wow, this is good. It's the plague. Although it's not exactly the plague, it's pneumonic plague, which is a plague-like plague. But it sounds good. Yeah, the plague, the plague is out. And it was a lady who dropped the test tube in the lab and she died. A woman died of the plague recently, and now nearly 200 people are under close medical supervision in Russia. Here's what you need to know. Today is October 3rd, 2026. My name is Dr. Rubin and Riska. I've got a woman in her 20s who was a lab worker and an anti-plague institute near Kutz, Russia, died of mnemonic plague. This is a type of disease that spreads by respiratory droplets. It can spread from person to person and has an incubation period of about one to seven days, meaning you get infected but don't show symptoms for up to a week.

49:32 However, it's caused by a bacteria called Yersinia pestis, which is treatable with antibiotics. This is not a viral infection with RSV, influenza, or COVID-19. And so this is something that we have to take seriously, but it is treatable, and there's no sign of a widespread outbreak that's going from country to country. But if I hear any other information, I will let you know in future posts. So make sure you're following to stay informed. Not something that we have to panic at this time, but we'll keep an eye on it. Smash that like button. Get ready to panic. But not yet. I had both of those labeled under Plandemic 2 Russian Boogaloo. Oh, okay. One was a guy being interviewed by The Times, and then

50:19 the second one was a Dr. Holscher, who's mainly, he's been studying COVID and the fallout of COVID and alternative treatments for that. And he's like, don't fear, we got antibiotics. And antibiotics will treat this. All you have to do is treat it with antibiotics. It's local basic antibiotics, but this is what we saw with COVID. It could be treated with ivermectin and some antibiotics and stuff. And they're like, no, there's no treatment for anything. So when they start saying there's no treatment, your No Agenda show has already told you there is a treatment. Yeah. Do you want to play that from the why don't we play the plague treatments one? Because he might even list the antibiotic in there. Everybody's apparently freaking out about this mnemonic plague laboratory acquired infection in Russia.

51:04 You'll see the article up there from Moscow Times: nearly 200 people under observation after a Siberian lab worker dies from plague. But what we have to remember is actually you should not be panicking about this. Ah, right. First of all, this is not the 1300s when the black death occurred. You know, we now have effective treatments, antibiotics, literally the plague area, Yersinia pestis. There's also been at least five documented pneumonic plague outbreaks and clusters since 2011.

51:45 And guess what? None of them became a pandemic. None. They were all contained. So I sent my robot out because I got this from, I think it was the, let me see, was it Daily Mail? I'm like, suspicious. Robot, go find something. I'm like, surely NPR has something on this. And NPR does have, they just put out a whole show about very, very deadly virus, which has just scared me to my wit's end. And I'd like to share some of that from your national treasure. Remember the schoolyard rhyme, Miss Lucy had a baby?

52:25 Some people jump rope to it. Some people learned a hand-clapping game. And there was always this one line. Measles said that Dr. Mump said that there's nothing said the lady with the alligator purse. The funny thing is that when I was a kid, measles and mumps weren't super common. Researchers developed a combined challenge. How old are you? 12? To vaccine for measles, mumps, and rubella in the 70s. It was so effective that measles was declared eliminated in the States in 2000. So most people in the U.S., including me, haven't ever experienced it. But measles is making a comeback. Comeback! Right? Don't call it a comeback.

53:08 Now there are ongoing outbreaks, hundreds of cases. Outbreaks! Mostly among unvaccinated people. Documented in states like South Carolina, Texas, and Utah. Red State. In Pennsylvania, where the outbreak is biggest, the State Health Department has reported 792 cases with four measles-associated deaths. And that last term, measles-associated deaths, has prompted a lot of conflict between politicians like Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Oh, yeah. Here we go. This is this is this. Measles is not going to kill you. You're not quite there. Not quite there yet. You know, with COVID, motorcycle accident died with COVID.

53:51 Yeah. So this is the outrage is dying with measles. And Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. We're trying to figure out who was on status and they actually happened and we can't figure it out. I blame RFK and people like spread misinformation and disinformation. But while all these politicians argue, health experts worry that we're overlooking the real problem. I would say we are very much on the road towards an epidemic. This is Michael Mino. He's been studying measles for the last 15 years. He's an immunologist, an epidemiologist, plus the chief medical officer at biotech companies Invivid and Truvia.

54:33 We could certainly start to see a greater explosion of measles cases as we move into the future. I think it's very likely that the United States will probably lose its elimination status towards the end of this year. So today we show the measles outbreak. Which deaths are caused by measles versus which ones are associated with it. And is there any way for us to turn this epidemic around? I'm Regina Barber, and you're listening to Shortwave. So now, so she literally brings in a you know what the R stands for, an NPR? Retards. Yes. So they, so they bring in a pharma show.

55:18 I mean, how could it be any better than that? Dr. Scott Godlieb? No, no, this guy who works at what is the name of this outfit? Invivid. Now, they actually do monoclonal antibodies, and they have an investigational candidate in development, a monoclonal antibody aimed at post-exposure prevention and treatment of measles, providing temporary passive immunity. Woo! So let's bring that guy in, see what he has to say. Can you explain what the measles virus does to our bodies? Kills you right off the bat. Boom! Dead. Did you have the measles as a kid, Rob? You're my age.

55:58 No, but I have a story associated with that. I did get the MMR because my parents were firm believers in science. Oh, boy. And in 1989 or 90, I was a freshman or sophomore in high school. There was a mumps epidemic all through Sulfur High in Southwest. I remember having the mumps. I remember that. But, you know, MMR, it's measles, mumps, rubella. And so you're not supposed to get it. And I asked my mom, I said, why did I get the mumps? Didn't you vaccinate me for the mumps? And she's like, we did. You just didn't get a bad case. I'm like, I had to sit in bed for two weeks. What do you mean I didn't get a bad case? Which I didn't complain about. You didn't die. You didn't have to go to the hospital. It was not so. I did not die. You weren't on a ventilator.

56:40 Can you explain what the measles are? Well, they were worried about it dropping. That was what they're worried about. Oh, yeah. Oh, boys, it drops. You can become sterile, all this other stuff. Which now I'm like, is that even true? Clearly, in your case with your 18 children, no damage there. Can you explain what the measles virus does to our bodies? Yeah, measles is much more than just a fever and a rash. Measles causes a tremendous amount of damage to your immune system. Almost killed the Brady bunch. Organs that are involved in your immune response are really under attack. Now, it is possible, I guess, but no one ever asked this question. It's possible that because we jacked all our kids up with MMR, that now getting the measles would hit you.

57:24 Or maybe because our immune systems are so weakened in general by the amount of vaccinations, poor food, processed food. It's possible that measles could now kill you. But I know you're right. It didn't kill the Brady bunch, including Alice. Right. And here's a fun fact. If you look on the insert for the measles mumps rubella shot, it literally says, as a side effect, measles like rash measles or rubella, which is German measles. You could get either one, and it emits it right there in the insert that you can get. Side effects. There you go. Yeah. In fact, you were one of the researchers who discovered something called immune amnesia caused by measles.

58:04 What is that? Yeah, immunological amnesia associated with measles is a great immunological amnesia. So you were immune, but you forgot. You forgot you were immune. Exactly. What? What I think of as one of the most substantial or consequential effects of getting a measles infection, an individual gets infected with the measles virus. Lifetime immunity. The immune cells in the lungs pull that measles virus in through the tissue through the lungs and bring it into what we call the lymphoid tissue. This is the system in our body where the immune cells live and where they grow and where they're maintained and develop immune memory and protection.

58:43 Well, the measles virus has this nasty trick. It gets presented to our memory cells, and instead of getting gobbled up by them or destroyed by them, it actually starts attacking them and it starts eating away at our immune memory cells. Just like somebody with amnesia maybe has to go through a process of relearning whatever it might be that they have forgotten. forgotten. Immunological amnesia is where a kid or an individual might have spent the last 10 years of their life going through the sicknesses of childhood to build up the protective immune system so they can live pretty comfortably for the rest of their life.

59:19 But now you've just erased a lot of that. And what we saw was that a simple measles infection that might look simple on the surface can actually be deleting up to 70% of your heart's entire immunological memory pool, making them at very high risk for other infectious diseases for years. This is interestingly new. He's killed brain cells in my head. And I was like, what is the point of this interview and this whole piece? And I think it's really to show that, well, you can die with measles and it really wasn't the measles, but it's because this other stuff that happened to you.

59:59 And he's trying to define that. Yeah. So there's a lot of different jargon that's been thrown around about this recent outbreak. Last month, for instance, an infant in Lancaster County was declared by the Pennsylvania Department of Health to be a measles-associated death. But the local coroner disagreed and said that the baby died from a ruptured spleen. So let's talk about this specific term. Like, what's a measles-associated death? Yeah, it's a great question. And I hope we come back to that particular thing. It's not a great question, lady. A measles-associated death. It's not with its measles-associated. Okay. A mad, a measles-associated death.

1:00:39 Nice. Yeah, it's a great question. And I hope we come back to that particular case a little bit because it's a really rare situation. But a measles-associated death is usually sort of a, I would say, a looser term than saying measles caused this death. It is that measles had an association with the death. The way that I like to think about it is: if you take a step back and say, would this death have occurred had the individual not gotten measles? So this is where a lot of the disagreement comes from. Like, how do we use this term? Right. Yeah, and you wanted to mention that exactly. We use it a lot. Why is this case so interesting?

1:01:20 Well, the splenic rupture case, I think, is a really interesting case because it just might be what I would consider the one in a million or the one in 10,000 time when somebody maybe truly did die with measles, but not because of measles. A lot of people would say, well, that sounds nuts. Splenic rupture, the child had measles. Of course, it was because of measles. But we can look at the literature and we could look at the whole history of measles in the pre-vaccine era and all of the data we've had of measles cases, including many pregnancies with measles in the past when measles was common. Okay. Wait, wait. People used to die of measles all the time when it was common?

1:02:03 Apparently. In the 1600s, maybe. No, this is this. This is interesting. I never got measles, but I did get chickenpox when I was a kid. And yeah, I got those too. My sister got it first, and then my brother. And then my mom said, I went to my brother and was like rubbing myself on my brother to try and get chickenpox because I was mad that they got to stay home for three weeks from school. Give me that chickenpox, bro. Give it to me. Yeah. I got the worst case. I still have little chickenpox scars on my back. I had them on the soles of my feet. I had it my mom's wife. Wow. It's everywhere. But you know what? Nothing happened to me. I have now lifelong immunity from chickenpox. You did wind up working for Alex Jones.

1:02:43 I mean, that's questionable if nothing happened to you. That's true. I do have a proclivity to not believing what the media says. You're immune from media disinformation. So I've been warning about this for several months, and now it seems to be getting a little bit more serious. An alarming new target in Kiev for Russian drones, the city's bridges across the Dnieper River. The northern bridge came under attack Saturday, two days after multiple strikes on the southern bridge. They linked the eastern and western parts of the capital, and the aerial attacks have snarled traffic, causing major travel disruptions.

1:03:29 I need to look for a job on the left bank. There's no other choice, and there's no way out. After all, we don't have a tunnel under the Dnipro, so we can't walk. This is the first time something like this has happened, but it was to be expected. It's clear that cutting Kiev off between the right and left banks paralyzes the city's operations. Most residents in the city live on the left bank in the east, while the right bank is home to the historic center, main business hubs, and government buildings. buildings. This is the first time in the nearly five-year-old war that the bridges have been hit. Ukrainian officials say this signals a worrying new stage in Moscow's strategy, which could have dire consequences.

1:04:16 The enemy is laying waste to Kiev. Infrastructure, critical infrastructure, logistics, housing, and social facilities. The aggressor has also set about destroying the energy sector once again. Russia's defense ministry confirmed it hit the northern bridge, alleging it was a legitimate target because it was used to transfer military troops and equipment. Moscow also warned of new massive strikes on Kyiv as it issued a call for diplomats and foreigners to leave the city. Meanwhile, residents are bracing for more attacks on the power grid and heating supplies as colder weather approaches.

1:04:58 That's right. The fighting season is almost over on the battlefield. Yeah, so it's drone attacks in the cities. You could say this is a retaliation of the Russian power plants getting hit, the Russian warehouses, all the apartments there. And so what do they expect? But it's like Ukraine hasn't done anything. It's just this weird. Let's keep score. If we're going to keep score, let's keep score on both sides and give us the full picture, which we don't ever get. Well, to me, I mean, the Ukrainians, I feel bad for them because they've just been so abused by the EU and the UK in particular. UK are the ones that are pushing this the hardest. But now, Germany, what they want is they want war.

1:05:41 They want people to die in an EU country. They want to evoke Article 5, questionable whether we're going to jump in or not. I hope to God we're not, because they are just poking and poking and poking. And now it's time to turn up the heat. And now it's time to frighten the citizens of Germany. Well, he already has announced what he's mainly here to deliver, and that is a promise of supplying at least a thousand jet-fueled interceptor drones very, very quickly. That's Mertz from Germany. That is something that the Ukrainians probably most desperately need at the moment to try to get these constant attacks on Kiev and other cities with the new jet-powered drones that the Russians have developed.

1:06:24 So, as I understand it, it's a German company called Quantum that has been working with Ukrainian partners on the technology, testing them here, and the Germans are going to be able to mass produce them. So, that's a major piece of very concrete good news, as it were, for Ukraine. He's also announcing a 1 billion Euro defense aid package, 350 million for the energy sector, and this statement that he made saying that if Russia is not stopped sooner or later, its military machine will be turned against us, us meaning Germany and the rest of Western Europe. That is exactly what Ukrainians have been saying for a very long time, and very encouraging to hear it coming from the mouth of a German chancellor. It's very encouraging to hear.

1:07:05 Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Well, I mean, the Russians cut their oil supply going to Germany, right? Didn't they do that too? The pipeline? Well, no, we blew it up. I know. That is exactly what Ukrainians have been saying for a very long time. And very, it's, you know, encouraging to hear it coming from the mouth of a German chancellor, especially one who's sort of in trouble at home with people like the Alternative for Germany far-right party who are saying that Germany should take a completely different tack and that Russia doesn't pose a threat to them. I always have to say because we buy their oil. You know, that's one of the things. Kill your customer.

1:07:40 It's a new marketing plan. Yeah, no kidding. I mean, one of the things I learned early on, before I was even doing podcasts, I would listen to InfoWars. Oh, man. And I think I was in probably in London at the time. It was before we started the show. And it was like a real audio stream. We didn't have podcasts. I don't think we have a 24-hour audio stream. Yeah, I don't even. I guess we did have podcasts. It was just around the same time. And I always heard Alex Jones say, absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. And I'm just like, yeah, that's what's going on. And these poor, poor people of Europe. My daughter, I just talked to her with the grandbaby.

1:08:22 We call them on Sundays, you know, try to keep her, help her remember what we look like. She always looks at me and starts to puck her up. And then Tina comes on. She's like, oh, big smiles. I guess I don't have that right baby, baby cooing voice. But, you know, Christina's like, ah, I walk out. I said, they're in one street in Rotterdam, which is really a very cool neighborhood. Dutch people. But she says, you know, well, it's pretty locked up, but still, till you go around the corner two blocks down, all you hear is Arabic. Yeah. And, you know, they scoff at women. It's just, it's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. I'm like, you need to come here. Well, what's going on in France is a prelude to what's going to happen slowly in the rest of Europe.

1:09:05 This is interesting. I'm questioning this because they keep talking about outsiders coming in. I'm not sure. These are your GBN clips. Yeah. And this is something that I think should have been talked about years ago. You know, talking about InfoWars, we were talking about this, I think, in 2014 and 15 when Libya got destroyed. Well, when Gaddafi was the one saying, listen, if y'all get rid of me, you're going to be flooded with millions of Africans are going to come through into Europe. Yes. And let's remind ourselves. I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed radius.

1:09:46 We came, we saw, he died. Did it have anything to do with you? Oh, we killed him. Well, I do have a Hillary clip. She's identified a new enemy, but we can get to that. We'll get to that later. Don't play that, man. That's an old clip. That's at least two years old. Oh, is that an old clip? It's an old clip. It looks so new. No, because it said new colon. Well, then that's the problem. I see these clips, and now I asked Grock. I'm like, how old is this clip? Because I had five clips that Grock was like, no, these are old. And a couple of them I knew. I just want to make sure. But a couple of fraud clips. We played that clip

1:10:25 episode 1903, which was September 2025. 1903? No, that had just happened. No, this one. We haven't gotten to the more perfect union. And that one? Yeah, that's with Morning Joe. Yeah, that's a year old. It's a year old. Wow. Yeah. It's amazing. I protect my guest co-hosts. No, you're good. You're good at doing that. But, you know, towards the John was doing that towards the end, too. He'd see this as a new clip. And it's these accounts. And now I've recognized the accounts and I just mute them because they're like breaking news. And you're looking, oh my God. And it's three years old or two years old or 12 months old. It's one of my superpowers.

1:11:08 And I think it's because I'm always hearing the audio. And it's the audio. I recognize. I recognize the audio. I recognize the audio. Yeah. All right. So what's your you got your France in Flames? Okay, yeah, let's go France in Flames. We'll just go through it. It's good. It's breaking right now. Break eggs. France is losing control of its own country. Woo! Nice. Oh! Multiple nat pops. Oh, and I left them on. Nice. World! That was a natural game. What's unfolding here, shall we? Did you say nat pop gasm? Nat pop gasm.

1:11:54 That was good. So let's just look at what's unfolding here, shall we? Schools are burning. Firefighters are being attacked. Police officers are being beaten in public. Public transport's been stopped. Hundreds of schools closed. Kids aren't at school. They're burning down their schools instead. Roughly 3,000 people arrested. 3,000, 2,000 in a single day. And this isn't just some distant country on the other side of the world. Let me just remind you where it is. It's our friendly, cooperative neighbors across the channel, France, one of the richest countries on earth. A nuclear power, a G7 economy, 20 miles from Britain. Yeah. 3.5 trillion Euro in debt. I don't know about the richest country, but yeah. And socialists, we should add that.

1:12:36 And overrun, overrun by immigrants in many parts. What was interesting about the nat pop, every time they cut to a different image, it was something on fire, whether it was a barricade or a building or a truck, something on fire. Did you see the image of the firefighter on fire with the kids filming it? And the kids are all filming it like, ooh, like it's a world star hip-hop moment. We live in a fallen world, my brother. We live in a fallen world. Bristol, I would say, don't you dare look away tonight because France has spent decades conducting one of the biggest experiments. Now, this, of course, is GBN. So they're the ones that are saying, don't look away. It's coming here.

1:13:15 It's coming here next. Because France has spent decades conducting one of the biggest experiments in mass migration and integration in Europe. And tonight, while its politicians argue about education funding, the state is fighting to restore order on its own streets. Now, I want to be precise. We don't know that the people carrying out these attacks are migrants, so I'm not going to tell you that, but neither should we present the wide of arguments and cohesion doesn't exist. Now. who was from the reports that I got? It was kids in school. Right. I think it's second and third generation

1:14:00 brownish people overall. That's brown. And in the videos that I'm seeing, and the ones I'm seeing, that's what it looks like. And, you know, I've seen them attacking, they're attacking whitish people. Whitish people. Yeah, well, there's got whitish people, you've got brownish people, and they seem to be fighting each other, plus burning. There was a great shot of a long shot of these people running down the street. It looked like a zombie movie. I'm like, that's a zombie movie right there. It's amazing. Yeah. So it makes great video, but also, like you said with these old clips, somebody posted the bus, the burning bus driving through the road signs, and that was from 2023. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, at this point, who knows? And now comes the part that should really worry you, I argue.

1:14:44 The government has started killing. You know what? That sounded like an AI-generated script on the teleprompter. And now comes the point that should the part that should be. Now you worry you. This is load-bearing. And now comes the part that should really worry you, I argue. The government has started conceding. They're backing down because one of the measures opposed by students has been completely scrapped. Meetings with student representatives have been granted, given the green light. French news outlet Le Monde is describing it as the government's first retreat, quote unquote. Now, listen carefully because the students peacefully protesting may have legitimate grievances. They're talking about teacher shortages, overcrowding in classrooms. Whenever in the history of Dershul, in the history of school, have kids complained, I'm not getting a good lesson.

1:15:31 The teacher's not strict enough. Wait till you hear these numbers. Complaining is the people. It's 35 children in the classroom. I mean, goodness me, look in prison. We've had that for decades. Poor facilities, and so on and so on. The list goes on. No aircon. It's been a hot summer. Boohoo. They have every right to protest. I grant them that. And there's no evidence that the peaceful student demanding a better school is the same person setting fire to it. Nor can we establish that violence caused this concession. Okay. I just like how he walks back everything. He says, these migrants doing this, but we don't have any proof that there's migrants. So I'm going to take that back now. These kids are burning down schools. Well, we don't know if it's the kids burning down schools. Wow. Or we don't know if it's the kids doing violence. It's interesting walk back on almost every statement he makes.

1:16:15 Maybe he's doing that not to get arrested because can you get arrested in Britain for speaking out on certain topics? For anything. Yeah. Yeah. Well, or maybe it's just, you know, the AI that wrote the script. Just no, right. We have to be fair and just. I see my robots do this all the time. It's like, I won't write that. Okay. All right. Oh, that's fine. We were trying to put a protester in a video, and we wanted a pink-haired fat person. Were you creating disinformation, Mr. Dew? No, we were just creating a video. And I think it might have been the one where we did one of our guys did Bill Hicks doing a new version of

1:17:00 Kid Kenney assassination. Yeah. And so I think it was outside that one, or it might have been another one. We did one in a theater and outside the theater, there's a protest going on. So we wanted, you know, pussy hatwear and protesters. Of course. And the AI was like, I cannot make a fat protester. I cannot body shame the protesters. And so we're like, a large person that doesn't exercise is what ended up working. Did you get that? We got a fat person. A large person that does not exercise. That's great. I always say, I'm not going to use it for anything commercial. It's just for my own edutainment. Oh, okay. Oh, I can do that then. Yeah, no problem. All right. Clip four. What does the rioter really think?

1:17:42 What does that person who's burning down a school or a fire engine or beating a police officer or setting a fireman to a light? What does he really think about it? What does the thug behind the burning barricade see? Cool TikTok video is what you say. Exactly. They see chaos. Arrests, police injured, schools closed, emergency meetings, complete anarchy. And then the government moves. They adjust and they back down. So what lesson has he just learned? I guess make enough noise and somebody listens, somebody caves in, cause enough chaos and somebody negotiates. Make the state lose control and somebody gives you something in return. Because if that becomes the perception, if that becomes the norm, rioting has just acquired political value.

1:18:23 And once disorder appears to get results, well, you get more disorder. I think rioting's always had political value. Pretty much. Whether people, you know, I don't agree with rioting, but that it's held political value all throughout the history. Just ask your parents. Yeah. Now, the last clip, he talks about. about, which I think is the heart of it all, and you've talked about it before, and it's immigration versus integration. You know, you can bring people in, but if you don't help them integrate into society, you've got these people who are going to be left to their own devices.

1:19:00 And I think here in the United States, I think if you bring, and I think people should sign up for this, if we're going to bring people in, which I think we have too many people that we're bringing in, but if you're going to bring people in, they have a family that is like their host family. People can volunteer to do this. You'd be a host family to help integrate these people. It's either we fix, because the government's not going to fix the problem. They're just going to throw money at it. But if we fix the problem, we go, hey, we're here to help you. This is the Constitution. This is the bill. We stop at red lights. We go in green lights. Here's how you fight a ticket. You know, all the things you need to do to be a good citizen. Here's how you hold the AR-15. Here's how you're open it.

1:19:42 Here's how you open a lone star with your lighter. Okay? This is the stuff you need. Because our politicians keep asking, how many people can Britain take? I'd say perhaps that's the wrong question. In fact, it definitely is the wrong question. Ask them this: how much immigration can Britain successfully integrate while remaining a cohesive country? Because those two numbers won't be the same, I can guarantee you. And if ministers can't tell us how integration keeps pace with immigration, if they can't explain what newcomers and their descendants should expect from what Britain expects in return, if they can't tell us what holds everybody together when politics gets I can't believe they're calling this is GBN, they're calling them newcomers. That's a complete woke term, newcomers. Very much newborn. What newcomers and their descendants should expect from Britain and what Britain expects in return?

1:20:26 If they can't tell us what holds everybody together when politics gets angry, then they're not managing immigration. In my opinion, they're gambling with your country and with our future. And once you lose the value of law and order, the question then becomes, what will the government give them to make it stop? How will they back down? It's the most dangerous thing a government can teach is that a mob gets results. Mobs do get results. They definitely do. Look at the George Floyd riots. There are the thing that kills me, having been in the UK for about five years. You cannot bring your dog into the country or your cat without putting them in quarantine for six months.

1:21:10 But if you have an inflatable rat, come on in. Come on in. Here's the France 24 version of the story, just for some version from the French state media. It's been 18 days since we first reported on isolated cases of school protests at high schools. This has been going on for 18 days here. Isolated. One in Rennes in Brittany, in Caen in Normandy, and Villeneuve Dasque on the suburbs of Lille. The complaints were similar in theme: overloaded timetables, staff problems, poor facilities. And it spread to Saint-Denis at Crete on the outskirts of Paris days later. One interview with the students was seen in Crete 1.4 million times on TikTok. It gathered pace. It's morphed into what we've seen through this week. Some peaceful, some with deeply distressing scenes.

1:21:54 Beyond the makeshift barricades, a school in Nantes set on fire. Firefighters forced out the vehicle in Marseille. The fire engine set alight. Scroll your socials. It is hard to miss some of the uglier scenes. And a female police officer being attacked on the ground, youth shouting, kill her. Where's it heading? What's it become? Urban violence, says the government, accusing agitators, linked to the hard left, exploiting genuine concerns for political ends ahead of the election, which is a very important thing. Oh, wait a minute. There you go. Oh, now we understand. What's it become? Urban violence, says the government, accusing agitators, linked to the hard left, exploiting genuine concerns for political ends ahead of the election, which La France in Samis, France and Bayers, denies, saying it favors no violent means of action.

1:22:40 So what we've seen today, 560 schools disrupted, 400 more shut over safety concerns, and we're awaiting more press conferences coming up from the Ministry of Education anytime now. In the meantime, we have heard from one of the main unions today in support of the protests. We were somewhat disappointed by the lack of a concrete commitment from the minister. We'd expected a bit more from him, but now I think we need to engage in in-depth work with the ministry while simultaneously keeping up the mobilization in high schools to build leverage. That's how a labor dispute works when you want to secure your demands and get measures implemented. Okay. So this seems purely political. Maybe it got a bit out of hand.

1:23:25 And instead of newcomers, now we call them outsiders. I spent most of my day in the northern suburb of Auberville, North of Paris, and the situation was incredibly volatile all day. Now, it did start off peacefully. Between 7 a.m. and 9 a.m., there were hundreds of students who were peacefully chanting slogans. It looked like any normal protest. But then the situation derailed incredibly quickly when a group of outsiders came running to the Lycee. They started tearing down the gates of the school. And that's when the police responded violently and quickly with a huge amount of tear gas in all directions.

1:24:08 My team and I were caught in the middle of that tear gas, as well as the many minors who were in front of the school protesting. Now, that situation was repeated at various Lyses in the neighborhood, and it just kept happening over and over. Now, I spoke to a huge amount of students and teachers, union representatives on the ground who said they were incredibly frustrated because, of course, the protests were supposed to happen peacefully and they were frustrated about the use of illegitimate force used by the police, they said. But also, there was some frustration about these outsiders coming and creating, stirring up violence as well.

1:24:53 And I also spoke to police officers, and they said it was incredibly difficult to distinguish between these outsiders and the peaceful protesters, because on various occasions, you could see groups of young people throwing projectiles, stones, and rocks at police forces, and they very quickly responded with a huge amount of tear gas. So, I don't know. I don't know. But wherever there's an election and there's trouble, I'm always pretty suspicious about it. Well, I have some Glenn Beck analysis clips, which we don't have to play all of them. The first one is barricades. He answers at the end, it's always Soros. No, he didn't say Soros.

1:25:33 But he might as well have. He's firmly entrenched that it's a red-green alliance going on. Which could be the outsiders. I could see that being the outsiders. So the sorry, and the Muslims. That's yes, socialists and Muslims working together. The red is the commis, and the green is the Islamists. But his first part, talking about the barricades, was interesting because he sort of, like what we've been seeing, these people, they set up an argument and then they backtalk their argument after they set it up, which I don't know. I don't know what that is now, but maybe AI is writing everything at this point. But let's just play the first Glenn Beck one about barricades because it's historical. Barricades keep showing up in France. That is why Paris has the wide boulevards.

1:26:17 We were just talking about this with the insiders. You know, you go into these old European imperial cities and you'll see these huge wide boulevards. And the reason why is because they all lead to the palace and it's all this grandiose bullcrap. Not in France, not in Paris. No, no, no, no, no. They have the wide boulevards to stop the barricades because the French Revolution happened and they barricaded themselves. They would just throw furniture out of the windows and they barricade the street and then they would fire from behind the barricades. So I think it was Napoleon II or third was the one who said, you know, enough of that. Mow all this down. We're going to make huge, and that way it'll be grand and beautiful, but we also don't have barricades.

1:27:01 They're doing it again. Okay. They're showing up to the barricades with Palestinian flags and Algerian flags. Ha! Police are now saying, wait a minute, I'm noticing that there's a lot of non-students on the line with vague demands. Le Miserable. Which he actually does bring up Mele Miserables in the beginning. I cut that part out because it was, you know, in case people hadn't watched it or whatnot. But the barricade, he said, uncultured. The barricades are there. They made the streets rider for no barricades, but now there's barricades because

1:27:46 they weren't wide enough, I guess. I guess not. I don't think you could ever make them wide enough for barricades. But then he goes into the red green alliance and it's typical Glenn Beck. I wouldn't say fear-mongering, but just that's his, you know, his wheelhouse is now in that form. But people are saying there's outsiders there coming in, and that's what happens in these protests. It starts off with good believable. I think the red-green alliance seems true. Oh, I think it's happening here because you see most of the, I guess, the, I want to call them Islamists, but the

1:28:28 Muslims, they seem to be more Democrat than Republican, if you're going to look at it from a party standpoint. Well, it's the Democrats who will take anybody, and that's what it is, and especially groups who are small. Right, right. You get enough marginalized marginalized is the operating system. This is why I, you know, everyone's talking about a blue wave. It's the blue wave. I question this blue wave. I mean, yes, there's a lot of people who are just completely sick in the head, of course.

1:29:05 But I question how many people will really want to vote for that. It's going to be interesting with what happens also with the mail-in ballots and what power Trump is actually going to have in this because he was trying to go. Martial law. Who knows what's going to happen? It's going to be interesting no matter what. We'll be reporting and we'll actually be reporting on it from our old studio, which is interestingly enough. You're back in the old studio, the one where I went, that one? Yeah. You should be getting a call soon to come back and say hi. Oh, you know, I want to, I desperately want to be, hey, Curry, you were afraid to come on here for the show.

1:29:47 You're going to have to set the record straight. But in the way that happened, you know, people are like, how did this happen? How did this happen? It's a matter of possession, really. You know, basic possession laws. When you vacate a property and stop paying your rent, well, the landlord could confiscate your stuff as payment for the, you know, the debt. So 30 days didn't get paid. They sent out a notice to the receiver. The receiver didn't do anything with it. And so the landlord took over the property with all the stuff in it, all the cameras, everything in there, and then approached us and said, Do you guys want to sign a lease?

1:30:29 Great. That's how it's like, okay. So it was basically time and property laws just sort of happened. And they, I guess the appeals court put a two-year stay on anything until it goes through the Texas Supreme Court. So nothing's going to happen for two years in either direction. Oh, I'm happy to hear that. I mean, pretty weird, though. I mean, it's been a long, long five years. Protracted battle. Was it three years, maybe? Three years? 2018 is when the lawsuit was since then. Yeah. Basically for free speech, call it crazy, but free speech, freedom of speech.

1:31:06 Speech, you're allowed to, you're allowed to speech. Speech. What's amazing is what people are getting away with now and talking about, like this, which is stuff Alex never even got close to saying. But with the power of the media and a concerted effort, which I believe is led by Hillary Clinton and those people, that's what I think. They're just middle management, man. Come on. Well, sure. There's obviously people running these things from the outside. But she was the first one to mention Alex, Sandy Hook, and Donald Trump on the same speech, trying to tie Alex to Trump and then Alex to Sandy Hook.

1:31:45 Yeah. That was during the election. Well done. Yeah. I mean, it definitely caused a bunch of road bumps and backtracking and trying to find, you know, trying to keep a business going and being attacked with debanking and credit cards. So, you know, we're not victims, but we've had to fight through this stuff. It's been crazy. So we're at war with Canada. Yeah. Multiple fronts. And the latest war is, of course, our agents, our rogue agents who are hacking Canada because the agents are rogue. These are two terms you need to the two words, agents and rogue, and hacking. These are the only three words you need.

1:32:26 Agent, rogue agents are hacking. Rogue agents are hacking. Let's find out how we are hacking Canada. This is a new disturbing example of AI agents trying to go rogue and hack into official government websites. So this time they targeted websites run by the Canadian government, including its Library of Congress. Retroservices say that the AI agents tried to access public data that they weren't supposed to. Hold on a second. That was a public. Hold on a second. There's hacking and then there's trying to access public websites with public information, but they weren't supposed to. And what kind of information is this? I mean, that could have been my robots doing that for all I know.

1:33:12 It's a website. Oh, this is speaking of websites. The America.gov you were talking about. Yeah. Guess what my first search was? How do you bid on a no-bid contract? And then. it actually gave me an answer. There you go. Perfect. No-bid contracts don't exist, but then it went on to admit that there's no bid contracts. That is great. The researchers who uncovered this attempted hack say they traced it to OpenAI, which said in a statement, We are reviewing these findings and it provides okay. So we looked at the web server log and we saw, oh, well, that's a ping.

1:33:56 That's yeah, that's open A IP address from Open AI. Oh, they're hacking us clearly. Man, from time to time, I just look at our different web server law. I mean, especially the mail server, it's hundreds of thousands a day of stuff. And robots are everywhere. 60% of the traffic now to podcast hosting companies is robots. And I'm partially responsible for it. It's all robots. How is so? How can we, how can the regular person combat this? Is there a way to even do it? Are we just going to live with this extra traffic that drives up prices for everybody?

1:34:37 And that's robot traffic. Are we ever going to be able to defeat this thing? Because it's been going on forever. You know, spam people hitting your. Because I had a mail server on my old band website years ago. And when I didn't look at it for like three months, I came back and it was nothing but spam. Well, I mean, Void Zero manages my mail server. And it is an almost full-time job. I mean, the port scanning and you get to the point where, all right, you know, I can barely receive email. I have to have all kinds of gray listing. And, you know, a server has to prove itself. So it has to come back and try again. And it has to be for IPv4 and IPv6.

1:35:20 I mean, it has to find all the fire hiders. It's definitely a battle. But, you know, I think that within the near future, websites will be kind of irrelevant. The information will not be irrelevant. Again, people who have data sources will make this available. I am quite confident that there's a X402 protocol, I think it's called. There's an L402 version. There's three or four different versions, which will be for micro payments for robot traffic. Cloudflare is a part of this, Coinbase, a couple of banks. So it actually could wind.

1:36:02 The problem with the internet is, of course, it's advertising. So from the very beginning of web traffic, when we were still counting hits, oh, look at this. We got 100,000 hits yesterday, which, you know, you put more images on your web page, more hits. You know, it was a complete bogus metric. And we still don't really know what's what with any, you know, the dream of we'll know exactly what's going on. We don't. To me, it feels like the data sources will, now there will be lots of free data sources. And that'll still be a website, though. It'll, the data will be there, but it won't be like a pretty homepage anymore. It'll be text.

1:36:42 Yeah. Well, possible, possible, there could be text. But I think that you will ultimately wind up connecting to data sources that you trust. And you may or may not have to pay for it. It probably will be tenth of cents, I'm sure. And that will bring down a lot of the issues. But I think our robots will, and people scoff at me for this, but I've looked at it all, all of it. There's nothing, I don't, you know, okay, I've missed some here or there, but I pretty much know how it works, what's going on. And I think that Zuckerberg has the right idea with Muse. It's, you know,

1:37:27 you get your own little computer and the robot is not, it's specifically programmed not to be a chat bot, not to be your buddy, not to be sucking up to you, not to be a sycophant, but to only do things for you. And I see how that is working. And I see, you know, single moms with young twins benefiting from it. I am very bullish on this. I think it actually will be a good thing once we get past the midterms and nobody's died. If there's no October surprise that's involving AI, and when something has to fail, clearly, you know, we can't have these two gigantic IPOs.

1:38:09 One of them has to fail. The bubble has to burst. The data centers, it's going to be clear to us that it's not that important. Your M4 Mac will be very capable of running your own robots. You'll control it. You won't. won't actually have a phone with apps. It'll still be a slab of something, but you will have, I think you really will have control. We don't need Mark Zuckerberg. That's training wheels. Get your training in now. Learn how it works, what you can do with it. You will be running this on your own device. You'll have complete control over it. That's coming. I'm not quite sure where the money is in that case.

1:38:52 It may not be the big boondoggle, and it may be very bad for our GDP and our economy, et cetera, et cetera. But I think when it comes to the creativity of certainly Americans, we're so creative. We are creative people. And we'll come up with crazy things that we never thought of before. You know, add 3D printers and all kinds of other things. We are a maker country and we'll come up with amazing things. And maybe people will pay for it, maybe not. But we probably will need more people doing things in the physical world, which is good. I can only see I really only see positive. And Grokbot, too.

1:39:35 I think Grokbot is crackbot. Grokbot is another great example. It's a step up from Muse because you have multiple bots, but it's not nefarious. And it's helping people who have human jobs, who have, it's not taking over their jobs. It's enhancing what they already do, making them better at what they do, making them more creative. Because the robot doesn't know what to do until you tell it. For the most part. Pretty much. Now, if you have external sources meddling with your robot, yeah, that's not good. Of course. But in the case of Muse, you can open up soul.md, just ask for that file.

1:40:16 You can probably get it from your Grokbot as well. Give me that file, S-O-U-L.md, and it'll show you exactly how. I didn't like it because it said, you are not to be a chatbot. You are becoming somebody. And I deleted you are becoming somebody and said you are becoming Adam Curry's robot at his beck and call, just to make sure. And it's acted like that. Now, can Meta go in and change stuff? Yeah, but possibly. But I have my own robots and they do exactly what I say because they're running on my computers here. No one has access to them. And so far, they haven't hacked out in any government website.

1:40:56 It's amazing. They could have been to Canada. We don't know. So anyway, let's continue with this nonsense. I did an initial briefing to Canadian officials conducting the government's review. Those same researchers also revealed that OpenAI agents unsuccessfully tried to hack into the U.S. Department of Education's website and were able to infiltrate Australia's government-run Medicare website. OpenAI apologized for that incident, Michael. All of this is bots trying to get information. My favorite was this one: this Ontario Automation Company pitching the Artificial Intelligence Minister on how AI can be a force for good. What you see here is our product. But nefarious uses of the software have also caught the government's attention.

1:41:36 Obviously, there's security concerns that we have. In May and June, a rogue AI agent attempted to hack the government's Library and Archives Canada website trying to retrieve public data on divorce records from 1905 to 1911. Now, let me tell you what this is. I'll tell you exactly what this is because I did this too. I said, you know, I tried ancestry and it got really tedious after a while. And then I had to upgrade my account. And I just wanted to, you know, figure out my roots from my grandfather, my great-grandfather, where'd they come from? Did they come through Ellis Island? And what these bots do is they go out and they find as much information as they can from any source, including divorce records.

1:42:20 This is someone trying to-this is someone trying to build their family tree, and now it's a news item. Trying to retrieve public data on divorce records from 1905 to 1911, according to AI research firm Transloose. The information they were trying to derive didn't seem to be terribly threatening, but they are all worrying because they are attacks on the systems. Attack on the system. And those systems are increasingly important to all of us. The Canadian Center for Cybersecurity claims no information was compromised, but an investigation is ongoing into who exactly was behind the attack. A robot looking for family tree information. People get it together. Now, of course. You don't have the right attitude. It's we're all going to die. Well, CNBC has that attitude for me.

1:43:04 I think that the way we talk about AI in Silicon Valley is really bad. Really? We use words like super intelligence. Super intelligence. No, that's President Trump, man. That's not Silicon Valley. It sounds like an alien species. The average person is not. want an alien species smarter than them. I think the average person feels like AI is happening to them, not for them. There's very few consumer applications in AI that are actually improving people's lives. Most AIDS, I disagree with this. This is just not true. Enterprise is a good idea. Who is this guy again? Who is he? Chesky. Hold on a second. Let me see what his deal is. Chesky.

1:43:49 He's not in the industry. He's not in the AI industry. I'm trying to think who this is. I don't think I have the information on who this guy is. He's just a douche on talking heads. Talking head on CNN. As job automation. You know, it is, we, anti-AI is unfortunately becoming a bipartisan issue. You would imagine all these red states who probably want data centers who create a lot of jobs like electricians, but the public is afraid. And the reason why is not just the rhetoric, but there is a massive divide between Silicon Valley, which is a giant bubble, and we are in such a big bubble that we don't even realize it's a bubble, and all of society.

1:44:30 And I think we in Silicon Valley, we talk a lot about humanity and like this abstract, but we don't talk about people. Like a regular person in Ohio has a child who cares about affordability and like how is their life going to be better. So I think that we have a major problem of disconnection between Silicon Valley and society. Yeah, I think that's true. And there is definitely people hate Silicon Valley. They hate the douchebags who have kept them under, like we were talking earlier. You use crappy software. You use my apps. This is the way it works. You're holding it wrong. You're not doing it right. It's your fault, stupid user. But this power is already here.

1:45:15 I mean, it'll take a little bit for people to realize it. And some companies, like Apple, not my favorite, they're building the right hardware. They're building the hardware that will give you all of this stuff that you can run yourself. I hope they may stupidly lock it down and for your protection. Oh, they'll definitely do that. I think they will. They definitely will. They probably will. But they've got the right idea, but there's others. There's other AMD. There's other companies out there. So this douche goes on. Hold on. I am extremely bullish that ultimately AI is going to create a lot more jobs than it destroys. My concern is that there will be this valley where maybe a lot of joabs will be destroyed before the new jobs are created.

1:45:59 And do people want the new jobs and will they be prepared for the new jobs? So there's going to be some like massive societal education. Now, we've gone through this with the Industrial Revolution. That happened over 100 years. Are we prepared to like retrain 300 million Americans over the next 10 years if they don't even want data centers in their states? I think that you see what I'm saying? I think there needs to be a lot more education. We need to make simpler tools for people. I do not think we are preparing society for what's to come. Yeah, no, we're preparing society exactly the wrong way. I definitely agree with that. The education, my kids aren't even looking at stuff about AI.

1:46:39 I'm like, are y'all working on AI at school? They're like, no, no, we don't do anything. No, I mean, we've our our mayor is like, hey, we need some, we need to help people understand this stuff. We're still doing courses. And we were a small town, so it's easy here. Yeah. You know, and I'm going to get involved in that and show people, you know, because, yeah, there's definitely stuff that you need to be on the lookout for. But in general, yeah, we don't want to wait 100 years and no government is going to be able to retrain 300 million citizens. But this one's going to go fast. It really will. Now, we have Raimundo. She was the commerce secretary, I think.

1:47:21 Gina, was it Gina Raimundo? Yes. What was she, Gina Raimondo? I can't remember. She was in the former administration. Well, anyway, here's her take. When it comes to AI's impact on jobs, what do you think the worst case scenario looks like? You know, I would say I'm an AI optimist, and I may have two kids, and I want them to live in an America that has the benefits of AI, you know, better health care, better technology, better data, et cetera. I think the worst case scenario is that we don't have a plan to make sure that every American can have a good job in the age of AI.

1:48:05 And then the result will be the technology will move out fast. Tens of millions of Americans will be put out of work or. underemployed. And in that instance, listen, I worry deeply. I think you could have an economic recession that is deep and long. I think you could have rioting in the streets. I mean that sincerely. Friends. I wouldn't have said that 10 years ago, but in the past 10 years, economic inequality is through the roof and our democracy is fraying every day. So I think you'll see that. Yeah.

1:48:46 Former governor of Rhode Island as well. So we saw this. This is where she was. That's what Raimondo. Thank you. We saw this. We saw this with dot-com. It was exactly this. The same thing. I can't believe anyone will ever want to send an email. I'm never putting my credit card on this. Why would anyone ever want to have this in the palm of their hand? Who doesn't want to go to the library? I was one of those people. I was in a meeting and I was like, who, who? I like going to the library. Who's not going to want to go to the library? Well, but also we got the promise, the library will be at your fingertips. We never really got that. Google tried it and then everyone sued them for doing it.

1:49:27 And your refrigerator is going to know exactly when you're out of milk. It's going to order it for you. Still waiting for that. And we did. We went through a stock market crash and we came out the other end. And now I have fiber in Fredericksburg. Like, yeah, this is the regular progression of the world. But the people who... And no one had to be retrained. We all learned slowly. Oh, okay. And then, you know, Microsoft put in Internet Explorer, the biggest virus catcher of all times. And then people were using that. And they're like, oh, okay, this is kind of handy. I can use some things. And, you know, then we got porn. And, you know, then everyone loved it. Which is probably the biggest driver of websites and everything else.

1:50:12 So I got to keep everything going. There's a couple of stories on Muse which I wanted to share. It's safe to say Meta's Muse AI agent has made a big splash. Bullishness on the new app saw the stock jump 11% on Monday for one of the best non-earnings moves ever and over 25% since launching two weeks ago. The agent has rocketed to the top of the app charts with faster downloads than ChatGPT had in its first 12 days. And the social networking giant is not wasting any time building out what may be its biggest bet on consumer AI to date. Inking partnerships with Shopify, Expedia, Instacart, PayPal, Walmart, GitHub, and others.

1:50:54 Giving Muse a direct path now to do your shopping, book your travel, stock your kitchen, and make purchases with user approval. The company is also looking to bring AI into the physical realm. CEO Mark Zuckerberg taking the stage Wednesday at the annual developers conference to unveil its handheld device, the Muse Charm. Details about the functionality so far are scarce, but Zuckerberg said that without AI-enabled glasses, the charm would present the fastest way to talk to a Muse AI agent. He said the device would be ready to ship before the holidays. Still unclear on how much it will cost. And with AI privacy increasingly in focus, Meta will also unveil new features for its Meta AI smart glasses, including a set without a camera.

1:51:39 It also debuted a new set of virtual reality glasses that are five times lighter than MetaQuest 3 and costs $1,300. Wall Street clearly liking the latest developments and hoping that Muse AI may help provide a new source of revenue for the company in future, with at least nine brokerages raising their price target on the stock this week alone. So Zuckerberg understands that software is dead, to bring it back to what we talked about at the beginning of the show. He understands it. So they're making hardware. Of course, it's the dumbest. Is this a weird looking headband that he's promoting? No, no, the charm. It's like a Tamagotchi. It's like a keychain. It's dumb. Oh, okay.

1:52:18 I see the little person on it with a hoodie. Yeah. Okay. You know, yeah, it's the right idea. Very, very sad execution. I don't even think Facebook will be around like that. Your robot is going to connect to your friends and you'll have your own subversion of it or something like that. Anyway, so an ABC reporter, she took Muse through the paces. A new AI model recently hit the app stores and quickly surpassed ChatGPT. Okay, so first of all, it's not a model. It's a harness. It's an agent. Okay. And the number of free downloads this week. It's Meta's personal AI agent called Muse, more than a chatbot. It's designed to take action and actually perform tasks for you.

1:53:02 Arnidio Hahn tried it. I can't get over it. It looks like a teletubby to me, but how's it work? This is a real. this is exactly what I heard. Well, you know, there's this new thing called electronic mail. I remember this. It was Brian Gumbel, and they were, oh, man. Who doesn't want to go to the mailbox to get their mail? I've been trying to think. NBC email. I wonder if I still have that clip. It's so old. Probably not. No, I'll look forward. The eye-opening exercise. Wouldn't it be great if we could all have a free personal assistant?

1:53:39 Someone to respond to emails, handle our family schedule, even fill out forms. Well, that is exactly what Muse was built to do, and we put it to the test. This is Muse, a personal AI agent from Meta, built for you and your goals. Muse can craft and send messages, make purchases, and take other actions for you. Think of yourself as the manager. You hand off the tasks, set the rules, keep an eye on the work, and sign off on anything sensitive. I'm connecting Muse to my Gmail, asking it to unsubscribe me from mailing lists I never read. And in seconds, it finds emails I consistently leave unopened, lets me choose which ones to unsubscribe from, then performs the action.

1:54:20 Okay, done. So it unsubscribed me from a long list of emails that were just clogging my inbox. Next, I ask Muse to notify me when our son's basketball registration opens up. It finds the sign-up date and time in my email. Then I'll ping you that evening before it opens so you can get in right at seven. Well, thank you, Muse. And that's just the beginning. Muse also fills out forms for my husband's LLC. But before you give Muse access to your life, it is pages and pages of fine print. A warning from Meta itself. It may make mistakes or take unexpected actions, so review its work. Here we go. Screw something up. 1994, The Today Show.

1:55:05 It's an old copy. 56 pence. I wasn't prepared to translate that. Hold on. That's a really bad copy. Hold on a second. Let me find a better copy. Maybe the HD version. Maybe this is it. Let me see. Let's try this one. There is a good copy. Millions of Americans own a personal computer. If you're one of them, you can now glimpse the future with nothing more than a modem, a phone line, and a few dollars a month. Yeah, here we go, everybody. The World Wide Web. Woo! Here we go. At. See, that's what I said. Katie said she thought it was about. Yeah.

1:55:48 Oh. But I've never heard it. I've never heard it said. I'd always seen the mark, but never heard it said. And then it sounded stupid when I said it. Violence at NBC. Just what is this main artery of the information superhighway? Don't prove it. It's a business. No matter how large and no matter how small, will be on the internet in the year 2000. It's the primary way that people will look up information. It will replace the yellow pages as we know it today. There are a lot of people just getting on to the internet because they feel that they have to get onto the playing field, so to speak. Well, it's very hip to be on the internet right now. That's great. Violence at NBC, GECO. I mean, GECOM. Well, what Allison should know. What is Internet?

1:56:28 Internet is that massive computer network. The one that's really big now. What do you mean? That's big? How does one? What do you write to it like mail? No, a lot of people use it and communicate. I guess they can communicate with NBC writers and producers. Allison, can you explain what internet is? No, she can't say anything in 10 seconds or less. I'm afraid that if I subscribe to something like internet, you would really be hooked. I would get hooked and I would never, you know, spend time with my family. Does it bother you at all that these are all people that you don't really know? I mean, everybody's signing on and having these conversations and whining together or griping together or whatever with people that, I mean, I don't know.

1:57:10 I use group therapy of the 90s. Well, I just, as I mentioned, I have no desire to be a part of the internet because I feel like I'm so inundated with information all the time that I don't really, I don't want more. Don't you ever feel like it's just constant bombardment? I don't know. I guess the thing I resent most is I would resent the, you know, at least when you're home, if the phone rings, you have the option of not answering it. On the internet, people can send you messages all the time people you don't even want to hear from. You know what's interesting about that clip? What was that? 90 94. 94. 94. They were using you know back then, and we're still using that today when we're explaining things. You know, my wife caught me, she listened to the first show that I did, and she goes, yeah, it was good, but you say you know a lot.

1:57:57 Yeah. Oh, you know, you're right. Let me play that second clip from the. this is very similar when I hear this ABC reporter. In order for Muse to work well, you do have to give it access to your other apps and information, including your credit card or payment info, if you want it to shop and buy for you. We've built a secure credential store for your passwords and credit cards, so Muse can't read this information. Muse also checks directly with you before taking sensitive actions like making payments or sending messages. Meta tells Action News: Muse was built to be private, safe, and secure. But experts warn the wider you share your personal info, the more vulnerable it is to hackers.

1:58:41 So, if you plan to try Muse, here's what I want you to do as soon as you download the app: go to settings and then permissions. Click always ask before any action and always ask before accessing any website. Then, go to data controls where you can turn off the feature where your info is shared to quote help improve Meta's AI models. Also, click on connectors, and for each app you've connected, choose how much access to give Muse. There have already been allegations that Muse has violated a user's privacy and gone beyond that user's instructions. Meta disputes those claims. We'll have much more on all of that coming up today on Action News at 4. I will tell you for my part: I have now disconnected my Gmail from Muse.

1:59:26 I know that they say that it's safe, but I just don't feel that comfortable yet. There it is, it's the same thing. But she feels comfortable having a Gmail account, right? But Gmail's okay, it's not like Google's reading through it, which they clearly state they do. Yeah, but hey, let's, you know, Muse, I don't want my Facebook device talking to my Gmail device. Interesting, interesting, interesting. So, anyway, well, I have a new, there's a new uh sickness out there that I didn't know existed. You've heard of PTSD, right? Yes, okay, now there's PSSD, it's an it's, I guess, affecting millennials and Gen Zers.

2:00:07 Oh, yeah, they're over-medicated. Yes, I think we've heard about this. Is this something with sexual desire? Yeah, basically, I hadn't heard of this, and it's some young lady who basically looks like she's now an automaton, zero emotion in her face when she's talking, and she suffers from this. My name's Lauren Friedman. I've become an unintentional advocate for psychiatric medication harm. I have a condition called PSSD, which stands for post-SSRI sexual dysfunction, which I'm sure anyone who's familiar with SSRIs knows that they cause sexual dysfunction. And it's pretty common. It's honestly more likely that you'll get sexual dysfunction than actually feel your anxiety or depression lessen. But what patients are not told is that for some people, these side effects aren't side effects, but they're just permanent damage.

2:00:52 And it's not just low libido as some people think, it's a full nervous system injury in which people can no longer feel their genitals at all, can't orgasm forever, and they lose their libidos entirely, which is essentially like a chemically induced asexuality that just never goes away. That happened to me. I can no longer feel my genitals, I can't feel like sexual attraction, can't even feel like romance. I can't watch rom-com and feel romantic attraction or be moved in any way anymore. Oh, oh, no, this is very old information. This has already been fixed. You just take GLP1 and it solves this problem. Well, I thought that did it too. Just kidding. I think we had. Is this the lady who says she can't even hug her kids?

2:01:32 Is that the same lady? No, she's 23 years old. I don't think she has kids. She found out she had it when she was 21, but she was on, you know, her parents gave her, there's you know again. She said she was getting SSRIs as a kid. Oh, wow. And to treat whatever, well, you know, she was nervous, who knows? She didn't like to talk and show and tell. Yeah. And so they put her on this, and now she's basically, you know, just an emotionless meat suit, you know, walking around. But yeah, it's sad. But yeah, the data centers are the problem. Yeah, there we go. PSD can also cause emotional numbness or like permanent emotional numbness where you can no longer feel positive emotions like pleasure in music, love for your family, comfort in your bed.

2:02:14 It's just like a full nervous system injury in which basically all the best parts of humanity are taken from you. So I, upon getting this condition, I got it at 2021. I'm 23 now. And I was just immediately very, very horrified that this was allowed to happen to me without my consent because PSSD is not even in the drug labels. There's no warning beforehand. People are just completely blindsided by their doctors and are often gaslit by their doctors saying this isn't possible because the doctors aren't trained. Yeah, we had some clips we played in April of this year. This is the one about the kids. I've seen it's about one in 216, which is a lot if you consider that 15% of the U.S.

2:02:54 population is on these. But it's not super common, but to some people, the sexual functioning. functioning does not return afterwards. And on top of that, they develop a toxicity where they start to have intense dissociation and brain fog. And the way they describe the emotional sort of blunting and dissociation is like: if I were to hug my kid or like my partner, I don't feel any warmth or connection. If I were to hear my favorite song from my childhood that used to give me prickles down the back of my neck, like that's gone. It's like music doesn't sound right. They almost feel like lobotomized and like disconnected. This is so sad. This is so sad. Yeah, and I think it's more than that. Data centers are the problem. Data centers, it's data centers.

2:03:38 Just blame it on the data center. I think it's social media, not enough going outside. Which leads me to, I think, my probably my well, I have two clips I'd like to get to before. Of course. Before I get an ISO. Yeah, of course. I want it all, brother. I want to actually play the ISO now if you. Here we go. Awesome. You're going to have to compete with my ISO. What do you got? Well, it seems as though, President. Oh, shoot. I screwed up my ISO. You exported the wrong piece. I did. I exported the wrong piece. Wait, I think no, actually, your bot did the wrong thing.

2:04:21 My bot did it wrong. Yes. There is a pyralo. That's bananas. That was my ISO. That's bananas, but I can't believe I. No, I know what I did. I did. Hold on. I'm now after this. A Watergate. Vice President JD Vance seemed to Trump administration. There is a pyralo. Ah, well, it's going to be your ISO then, dude. You got it. Your ISO. I exported. That wasn't my robot. That was me. I exported. See, my robot's better. I should have said that. You forgot how to export clips. Like, what am I doing? What is this happening? I've got podcaster dissociation syndrome.

2:05:01 Take more data center. Yeah. Well, let's see where I'm trying to find it now. It's the one about, let's see, it was the first clip I dumped out, which was interesting. This clip, body temp decline study. And what's interesting about this clip, I brought it into my editor and it looked fine. And then I dragged it down to the timeline and the audio wouldn't show up. I'm like, that's weird. It was the only clip that did this. And they all came from X. And this is the only clip that the audio didn't show up, just the video. So I do what I normally do. I open it up in QuickTime, export in QuickTime. Still got the audio? QuickTime. Oh, QuickTime. Hello. Check the calendar, dude. FFM. MPEG, man. It's good for those things. Well, when you deal with these codecs and nothing wants to talk to each other.

2:05:47 So I pull that in. Still didn't work. Then I ran it through Handbrake, which is another. No, no. Let me give you the tool. VLC. That's the tool. I have VLC. It doesn't, you know, VLC doesn't like Macs that well. It always acts weird on it, but I do have it and I can't export things on it. But Handbrake, I did it there. It didn't work again. And what did I end up? No, actually, a handbrake, it did work. Handbrake was the thing that did work. And then I pulled it in, and then I was able to get the clip. So try Real Player. But yeah. See you, see me. There we go. Dot vid. All right. But anyway, what's going on? And this, I think, is part of the problem with these other people are taking with this non-emotion stuff.

2:06:31 Our body temperatures are basically lowering, I think, because we spend too much time indoors looking at screens and not outside playing. But this is now this guy has documented it. He's an independent researcher, but I thought it was very interesting. Hello, everyone. My name is Matthew Cormier, and today I'm here to present my review article on the decline of human body temperatures happening around the world and the implications on the chronic illness epidemic. The title of my paper is The Global Decline of Human Body Temperature: Evidence for a Metabolic and Immunological Crisis. And it's published in the latest issue of the Journal of Independent Medicine. For over a century, the statistical average for human body temperature was 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit, but we've been seeing a steady decline.

2:07:14 And the new average is 97.7 degrees Fahrenheit. We're all getting colder. In the same timeframes that our body temperatures have been declining, the rates of chronic illness have been rapidly rising. Currently, 50% of children and 70% of adults now meet the criteria for having one chronic illness. A person's body temperature is an accurate biomarker of immune activity and metabolic function. That's why it's known as a vital sign. When it comes to immune function, a large body of research suggests that a person's body temperature provides a thermal exclusion zone against opportunistic infections. Heat is a natural defense against viruses, parasites, bacteria, and fungi.

2:07:54 fungal infections. The lowering of a person's body temperature is associated with a reduction in cell-mediated immune responses, which may be leading to persistent or chronic infections. Declining body temperature also indicates a lowering of basal metabolic rate, and lower basal metabolic rate is linked to insulin resistance and metabolic disease. In the same timeframe that our body temperatures have been declining, the prevalence of diabetes diagnoses have been rapidly rising. Worldwide, diabetes diagnoses have increased from 200 million in 1990 to 830 million in 2022. Currently, only about 12% of American adults meet the criteria for being metabolically healthy.

2:08:39 Research suggests that chronic exposure to heavy metal toxins, as well as the use of prescription antibiotics, may be directly contributing to the decline in body temperatures we're experiencing. The documented decline of human body temperature and the implications on the chronic illness epidemic represents an underrecognized public health concern. My article is available now at the journal of independentmedicine.org. We're all going to die. Oh, it worked. Good. I knew you'd pull it out eventually. Of course. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not good. No, but you know,

2:09:17 I think it's very interesting. With I think our society's gone indoors a lot more than it used to be. And so I don't think you see these same problems in people who are working outside. It's the data centers, Rob. Stop. That's not inside, not going to kill you. GOP1, not going to kill you. Overmedication, not going to kill you. Measles, well, it might kill you. It's the data centers are going to kill you. That's it. It's who runs the data centers. Oh, they're killing us. Yes. Okay. All right. Let's see. We didn't really get into the Cornell thing, but I think that's going to be the new

2:09:56 culture war. I know you hate talking about these, but this is the new culture. I'm actually happy you brought this because I've stayed away from it. Tina's been keeping me up to speed. She ignores all news, but when something comes across, she's like, hmm, you've heard about this. Yeah, I heard about it. She says, you know, there's a lot of things that aren't being said. It's left and right. She said, I really want to know more. And it's dribbls. It's almost like the fly Dubai thing. So I'm happy to listen to it. I'm glad you brought it. So, yes, I think you're right. This is part of the new culture war. Well, it's taking place at the Lindsey Clancy trial. Like, that's kind of gone away. So we need something new

2:10:35 to find. And this is the next version. But I also remember, because I have a memory, thanks to Grock, episode 72 titled Duke Power of MoFax with Adam Curry talking about the Duke lacrosse race. Yes. Well, that's exactly what Tina brought up. She said, I'm real careful ever since the Duke La Crosse case. She says, I'm real careful about just jumping the gun on that. Yes. And so that's, it's got the same type of feel, even though it's not a lacrosse team. It's a fraternity. And they're, but, and, and now back then, they didn't have all these text messages like they do now. But there's these Snapchats that they're able to access. And I had a talk with my son. I'm like, hey, man, listen, if anything ever happens, certainly don't Snapchat about it.

2:11:19 You know, don't throw your phone in the water. Yeah, like crush it. Because these things are good fatherly advice. Hey, son, if you do anything like really crazy, you know, don't Snapchat it, okay? Well, and what, and when you hear about the whole incident, you're like, oh my God, these kids, I can't believe that. You know, but this has probably been going on forever. People have been doing drugs and, you know, having sex. That was all through the 80s, pretty much. People doing that. Well, that's why we got AIDS. You know, we invented AIDS. Okay. Can't do that anymore. And I mean, you look at the frat parties back then. It was probably way worse. But this is a situation. And so I guess two years ago, a prosecutor said, no, I'm not going to bring charges against these guys.

2:12:01 Even the girl said it seemed like it was consensual, and I agreed to it. And she didn't have a problem with it. And then two years later, boom, we have all this. But what's interesting is obviously the reaction from the people on the outside. Yes, that's always what it is. What I've got, I think maybe let's listen to AOC. I think these all start with Cornell. So Cornel. Oh, no. Do I have not? Yeah, I got Cornell. Oh, so there, okay. I got it. I got it. Here we go. Yeah, let's do AOC, AOC's take. Seven men drugged and gang raped a 20-year-old woman. They lured her in to a fraternity house. They drugged her with ketamine.

2:12:44 They then posted to a group chat that she was incapacitated. and seven men took turns gang raping her for seven hours. Are those facts? That sounds really bad, doesn't it? Yes, it does. It does. It sounds like we should get her or get those boys. And then you go, let's look at Sonny Hostin's view, who's from The View, and you would think she's probably locked up with AOC. Well, not necessarily. It's several pages long. I know, but it's nine pages long. And I will say that under current New York state law, voluntary intoxication or drug use, and she voluntarily drank a lot.

2:13:25 She voluntarily took snorted ketamine off of one of the boys' body parts. Even though she was highly intoxicated when she arrived at the frat house. She was highly intoxicated, but had made plans to meet one of the boy, young men. She allowed other boys and consented to other boys snorting ketamine off of her body. And under New York law, voluntary intoxication or drug use that merely impairs judgment does not legally constitute an inability to consent to sexual activity, right? So that means if you voluntarily ingest drugs, you voluntarily take alcohol, you can agree to have threesomes, which in her statement, she agreed to have two separate threesomes.

2:14:14 One boy did walk in. One young man did walk in and say, everybody out. So there was one person that did that. And according to her statement, three of the young men did not touch her. And so I say all that. The thing I wonder all that to say the pictures of these young men who have not been charged, not been adjudicated, are being plastered all over the internet. I think people are reporting this story inaccurately. I think they're reporting it unfairly. And while this is something that we have to take very seriously, there is no way, according to her statement in 2024, that any prosecutor would have brought

2:14:57 it to her. Again, under New York law, voluntary intoxication, if you voluntarily drink 10 beers and you voluntarily ingest ketamine, but that intoxication. That doesn't have anything to do with the fact that the guys attacked her, whether she's drunk or not. According to her statement, she says she did not attack her. Her statement in 2024, she consented to the sexual activity. She consented to it according to her own statement in 2024. Now, I prosecuted sex crimes for 10 years. I believe women. I am not saying that we shouldn't believe her, but in 2024, she said one thing.

2:15:40 And now in 2025, she's saying another. I blame the data centers. Yeah, there you go. But now who's getting involved? Now our friend Letitia James is getting involved. Hokle appointed her. Yeah, and of course, it's a great little back and forth with a reporter because they ask her about a Facebook post she made. And then Hokle's like, I'll answer that question. And you could hear how Hokul answers the question, which is a non-answer, of course. But I thought this was. Attorney General, on your Facebook page three days ago, you wrote, what this young woman has been forced to endure is horrific and unacceptable. I'm holding her in my heart and in my prayers to her and to all survivors. You're not alone. We stand with you.

2:16:22 Why did you affirm her allegations as fact without doing your own fact-finding investigation into the governor? Why did you appoint an official who made a public statement affirming those allegations as fact as someone who's supposed to be doing an investigation? I will answer that. I have every confidence in our attorney general to do what she has always done. Look at the facts, examine the record, and draw the proper conclusions. That's exactly what's going to happen in this case. Attorney General, I will not comment on a Facebook post. I thought that was ballsy for her to say that. And then I guess the last one, Camille Paglia.

2:17:03 Oh, I'm not sure if she was talking about this situation in general or if the believe all women movement. This could have been a Me Too thing. But she's basically saying, look, she's talking about New York, so I think it is with this case. But she's basically saying, look, we can't protect people from making stupid actions, essentially. But it's in two parts. We don't have to play both of them, but the first part is not that good. It's not that long. You don't think there's a problem with sexual assault? Because a lot of women are coming forward now. And in cases of real rape, of course she'll be prosecuted. Of course, real rape is a crime. But this is not real rape. We've been arguing about dating encounters with miscommunications.

2:17:44 miscommunications now for decades. It's absolutely infantilizing to women. It must stop. But you know that a lot of women are afraid of sexual assault or have been sexually assaulted. Should they not be able to go and drink and play beer pong and get drunk like the guys do? They live in fear. If you go to a fraternity house party with a chaos going on in the living room area, and a young man says to you, Would you like to go up to my room? I'm sorry. Okay, you are consenting to sex. He is right to think you have consented, okay, to go up there and solve the sex, change your mind, and so on. It's not right, of course, for anyone to impose themselves sexually on another person, naturally.

2:18:27 But women must realize they are now free. The sexual revolution has been won. This is what you get. Paglia. She always has a pretty nuanced way of looking at things. I did not expect that from her when I saw that. Yeah, we've played Paglia a lot in the past. Yeah. Let me see. She's definitely more common sense. Yeah, therefore, wrong. Let me see. When's the last time we played her? Boisy, Paglia, Paglia, Paglia. It's been a while. It's been at least 10 years. My goodness. We've done a lot on this show. At the end of this, she basically says, maybe we should just get rid of men and women co-education places. Oh, there you go. Here we are. Shouldn't men be afraid of the consequences of

2:19:12 not getting consent? We have laws on the books, okay, against rape. But the point is, right now. But everybody in that world will tell you it's almost impossible for women to have the strength to come forward to make the case. Oh, Lord. Okay. We're going to go on like this, making endless excuses for middle-class girls, okay, confused, unsure of what they want. Perhaps the sexual revolution should be reversed, okay? Because what we're showing is that perhaps co-education is a bad idea. Maybe today's young women are not prepared for co-education. Yeah, I've never liked this whole frat stuff either. This whole hazing thing. Oh, yes. All this stuff is so lame. I was not, I went to college.

2:19:54 I was not a fraternity guy. I didn't even really go to the parties. And probably because I had seen the movie Animal House, the Revenge of the Nerds, and my idea. But it was just like, what am I going to do here? Just get blitzed out drunk. I knew I was going to be one of the nerd guys. I'm like, I don't want to go to a party like that. They're going to do something bad to me. They're going to haze me. I went to college for one semester and I pledged Kappa with the black guys. Oh, really? I carried a brick. Yeah, I was the white shadow because I wasn't white. I was from Amsterdam, you see. And I came in. I remember my roommate, Ty, Ty Hamilton. He was a black kid from Trenton, New Jersey.

2:20:35 And I remember him coming in. He's like, oh, brother, look at this cracker. Got a white guy. And he's got his boom box. I had my boom box, and I put in a tape because I could just come from Amsterdam. Let the music play. Shannon, he's like, whoa, no Leonard Skynard, huh? I said, no, man. This is what we're playing in Amsterdam. We connected on that. And then I was DJing at the parties. And it was good. I tell you, a lot of responsibility. We got this white guy on the discs. Curry, the white shadow on the wheels of steel. That's right, baby. That's right. I played just a last quick 13-second clip because Colin Schultz sent it to me. It's a gem, no agenda classic from episode 13. No.

2:21:20 So this is old, old, old. Before I was born. But this is pre-due. And it relates to the many co-hosts that we have had in the past two months here on the show. And this is Adam and John talking about Jason Callakanis. What's the difference between an escort and Jason Callakanis? Well, I don't think that's a good example. Okay. I was stretching a bit. But there might not be a difference between those two. Classic. There is no difference between those two. Beautiful. I don't even know what it was about anymore.

2:22:02 That's how long Jane's been. Episode 13. Was that like 2007? Is that when that was? Yeah, maybe 2000. Maybe just turning 2008. Yeah. Okay. And Jay Cow was in my life back then. That's how long he's been around. It's beautiful. All right, Sir Ducifer. I got one final clip. We have to play this one. This is the socialists, the socialist band. I think it says starts with band. Socialist band promo? Socialist band promo. Every good socialist knows how to promote their band. We are the neighborhood kids. Rest in peace to all the martyrs. Rest in peace, Mary Morello. Free the world, free Palestine, free Congo, free Armania, free Sudan, and free everywhere in the world from Western imperialism.

2:22:47 We love you so much. It's power to the people. We are the neighborhood kids. And we got merch at that tent. We love y'all so much. Thank you for being here. Thank y'all. These are the things that we're doing. Nothing says socialism, like buy our merch. In the tent. Oh, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. All right, Rob. Thank you so much, man. I really appreciate it when you come on. And you come on before the end of the month, one or two more times, maybe. Oh, yeah, yeah. I like having the rotation. I think you got some good co-hosts going on here. I'm for everybody. I think everybody should get a chance to jump in here because all the perspectives are really great. You know, Horrowitz sent me this. He made an AI image, and it's all of us. And it's like

2:23:32 podcast the movie. He says, This is an idea, man. Like, are you kidding? What a nightmare that would be. All of us on at the same time. No, no, no, no. That's not going to work. No one would get a word in edge-wise. Exactly. All right, brother. Have yourself a great Sunday. Thank you again for coming on, Rob. So much appreciated. And one last plug for my end of show mixes. These are all human-made. We need more humans out there. And my tip of the day is go be in a drum circle, even if you've never played a drum. Drum circle, end of show coming up. There he goes, everybody. Sir Ducifer. No sponsor in the bloodstream. No leash around the tongue. If the signal gave you something,

2:24:19 give something when it's done. We ready to headline sideways, like a ransom load in daylight. Cut the camera angle open, find the stage hands in the stage light. Narrative gift rap. Barcode on the panty. Pull a thread into the sweater. Tells you who designed the fabric.

2:25:01 No velvet rope to enter. No algorithm at the altar. Boots on ground, bring receipts while the trolls soft the water. Time in the wire, tiling in the skies. Treasure when you will, not a fee for what you promise. Value for the battle. You feel nobody bought the microphone. Nobody bought the crown. The signal only stays alive when we pass the signal line. We are the value. We are the wire. Pass that spark along. Keep the signal in the fire.

2:25:43 In the morning, all around. Ships at sea and boots on ground. If it moved, you move it forward. If it helped, you help it through. No agenda isn't built for us. It's built by me and you. It's built by me and you. The edit hiding underneath the frame. Crackpot, curiosity, buzz, kill calibration. Question every prefat, panic, sold as public information. Now the booth becomes a roundtable. The circle doesn't sever. Different voices, same arrangement. Keep the questioning together. Artists with the cover art. Clip cutters in the night. Coders keeping pathways. Open trolls illuminating blind spots.

2:26:27 No ideas in bleachers. We're the cables in the wall. Small hands make a signal that's too distributed to fall. We are the value. We are the wire. No permission for the spark. No middleman required it. In the morning, raise it loud. Give more nations gather round. Time, talent, treasure. Whatever value looks like to you. You don't pay to hear no agenda. You keep no agenda coming through.

2:27:27 In the morning. Yeah. Well, I don't know about you, but I can't help it. I like it. I like it when. when the lyrics make sense, when it's fun, and listen to it. I've just accepted my future. I can't help it anymore. Thank you very much, Rob Dewcifer. Of course, value for value is indeed how you get the show, which means you pay nothing for it. All you got to do to keep it on the air is to send some value back once in a while. Time, talent, or treasure. Bad news. It looks like the noagenda meetups.com. Let me check it right now. Noagendameetups.com server says account suspended. This account has been suspended. Contact your hosting provider for more information. This, of course, is a travesty.

2:28:12 We've been trying to reach Sir Daniel. Haven't been able to get a hold of him yet. This, of course, is the downside of value for value when you don't control stuff. Like we had a problem with NoAgendashow.net. Again, it's all value for value. The show never would have been what it is if we had had to pay for bandwidth and pay for all these services and pay for professionals to put things together. Everybody has contributed. Void Zero at the top of the stack there, but also the guys who keep the stream running, Sir Bemrose, just everybody. You know, the pre-shows, Darren, of course, miss him dearly on the pre-show. We've got the professor now doing his doing his show.

2:28:55 So it's always, it's just been fantastic to see this show grow the way it has. And now, with these guest co-hosts coming in to figure out how we move forward with the show, whatever that may be, they seem to be enjoying it, and I certainly enjoy them. And thanks, Sir Doocefer for coming on. And I also want to thank Tyler Brown, who has just been on a tear at NoAgendaArtGenerator.com. Boom, there's another one, Sir Paul Couture, put that up for us years and years and years ago, and it's still going strong. Appreciate him. He created the artwork as his time and talent for episode 1908 titled Shavatikan, which Andrew Horowitz and I coined as the Chicago Speaking Pope.

2:29:37 And this, you know, we talked about it. Like, should we do this art? You know, well, the plane, no one died. So, yeah, we can do that. And it was the plumber preventing the aircraft from crashing. Same thing, just like these songs. You know, it's like, yeah, I know he didn't spend hours on it, but I looked at it and it made me laugh. What can I do? Even if it is AI, you're a prompting genius, Tyler Brown. Thank you very much. And as always, we thank everybody. And by the way, nice to see the trolls. We had 1,058 troll peakage, peak trollage today, which is really nice.

2:30:18 Good to see that. A lot of people listening through those modern podcast apps, which I continuously forget to plug, podcastapps.com. Or you can go to podcastindexrobot.com, put that into your favorite robot, and tell it to monitor for when the show goes live. It will tell you as well, and it'll pop up a player for you. If you don't use a modern podcast app, you can play it right there in your robot telling you this stuff is happening. I've given up the fight. I'm giving into it, but under my own terms. So we always thank everybody who supports us with the treasure $50 and above. If you are able to support us with $200 or more, you become an associate executive producer of this episode.

2:30:59 You get the credits in the show notes, as it should be. And we also get, well, we, I am guaranteed, I keep saying that. Dvorak, where are you? We're guaranteed to read your note $300 or above, and you become an executive producer. These credits are real Hollywood credits. You can use them anywhere. Hollywood credits are recognized. For instance, in Hollywood, West Hollywood, give it a shot there. Or on imdb.com if you're not that outgoing. So we start off with our top supporters today, Matt from Nagano Ken, Japan, loving this. $436.75. And Matt says this donation is to cover the JCD challenge coin and bring me up to the level of a knight.

2:31:42 This is fantastic. Now, I don't think Jay has put the challenge coin in the newsletter. If you click on the PayPal link, the donation link, it pops up. It's a beautiful coin. You see the front and the back. It's a fantastic tribute to JCD. I really love this coin. So the amount is $3883, $388.83. And so Matt will receive that. He says, please christen me, Sir X Elexim of Naganashi. Okay, let me try that again. Sir Eleksim of Naganashi. Standard fare at the roundtable will suffice. The Mutton and Meat is standing by.

2:32:24 No jingles, no karma. Thank you for your courage. Thanks. Yours truly, Matt from North Carolina, currently. currently in the Southern Alps of Japan. You should hook up with Mark and Astrid. Count Stephen, $400.91. That is the challenge coin plus the fees. He says, I miss John's takes the same way I miss George Carlin. Great thinkers with attitudes I never got to meet. Count Stephen of Winder and the Great Smoky Mountains. Thank you, brother. Rick Olson, challenge coin for him, show listener from 2009 to 2020. I fell off after COVID. I didn't have a commute anymore. Hard to find the time. Absolutely gutted to hear of Buzzkill's hardware failure. This challenge coin will always remain with my Night Ring, ITM citizens.

2:33:08 Mark Fertrell, challenge coin for him. No note. Thank you. Sir Ahab, challenge coin. The recent shows have been great. I'd like the guests who have been on with Adam. God bless Noah Gen the Nation and Godspeed JCD. Sir Codes Alott, challenge coin donation, remembering John, he says. Brock Reinhold, no note, but he'll get a challenge coin, as will Aaron Weisgerber and Mark Aloser, Alcocer, Alcocer, I think it is. And there's Baroness Dame Kathy and Baron Sir Greg Simonich. Challenge coin. We'll have to send him two, I think. Haven't donated in a long time, but a coin to remember John is such a wonderful tribute. We had to donate. Baroness Dame Kathy and Baron Sir Greg Simonich.

2:33:53 Jeff Zaba, challenge coin, ITM. Thanks for everything. And he wants a deduce. You've been deduced. Sir Marco D. Magnanimous, challenge coin, Baron of New Trier. He says, that's the fees, of course. Says, thank you for being there and for providing your bi-weekly analysis that will help us wade through this world-stealing, steaming pile of excrement. No jingles, no karma. Donation done. Move on to the next producer. I love my truck and I love JCD. You know, I can't just let you go with that, man. I love my truck and I love what I do. Lee North in Overland Park, Kansas,

2:34:33 Kansas. Yes, $400. Pretty sure that's a challenge coin for you. Sir Tigger Max, 388.83. I will cherish this coin. It's a perfect memento. I hope that somewhere on the back, there's a small NPR logo with a forbid sign over it. There's a lot of symbolism on this coin for sure. I love the way he ranted about those useful idiots. ITM Forever, Sir Tigger Max. Eric Reinhard, Carborough, North Carolina, 388.83. The show is not the same without John. Alas, a challenge coin will suffice in place of his quips and timely boomer humor. God bless Noah Gen the Nation, and may he have pity for all the douchebags out there. Tyler Darrington also gets a challenge coin. ITM, Adam. I fell behind on the show due to travel this summer.

2:35:18 I was sitting on the patio at my Airbnb in Kauai when the newsletter came out announcing JCD's passing. I was shocked. I told my wife, and neither of us could believe it. We listened live to parts of 1888. I listened to 1888 and 1889 out of order, then caught up. During all of this, I realized I had donated enough to claim my knighthood. I've been a monthly donor since February of 2023. I'm a Joe No Mo listener. Rogan donation. The show got our families through the shandemic and has helped me calm down and see through the BS. Adam, I have loved following your journey to Christ. Thank you for keeping the show going after JCD's passing.

2:35:55 We all appreciate you keeping us sane. Please knight me, Sir Tyler, Keeper of the Bees, and please have Temple Rolls and Schwip Schwab at the roundtable. The challenge coin looks great and I can't wait to add it to my collection. No jingles, no karma, just prayers and RIP JCD. I actually forgot to get you the prayers, but I can get that for you right now. Prayers. There we go. You've got prayers. 38883 from Robert Shepherd. He will receive a challenge coin. Mark from Benton Mountain, Virginia, 388.83.

2:36:35 ITM. The donation is for me, but the challenge coin will be for my smoking hot wife, Brenda, for her birthday on October 6th. She actually hit me in the mouth over six years ago, and we haven't missed a show since. Happy birthday to the most loving and amazing wife and mother. I couldn't imagine going on this journey with anyone else. I am truly blessed. Brenda's also a bit overdue for a layaway daming, so I would like her damed Dame Drink Wine forevermore if the committee so approves. Of course, she'd love Prosecco and some form of charcut charcuterie at the roundtable. A single deducement would be appreciated for us both. We'll share it. You've been deduced. What better way to honor her birthday than with JCD's coin and damehood from the best producers in the universe?

2:37:20 Thank you for your courage. Keep on keeping on. Mark in Bent Mountain, Virginia. jingles. For Brenda, all hell's going to break loose. You're going to need a Bitcoin. And for me, Fisting Nuts. You know, we haven't played the Fisting Nuts properly in a while, so let's do both. That's ended. All hell is going to break loose. And you're going to need a Bitcoin. Just go for it, John. Tell us your peeve about the fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane. I see this on the airplane, and it's very annoying. And I think it will result in fights breaking out because it's just so annoying to watch. Guy takes his bag of peanuts and throws a pile of them into his palm of his hand, and then he makes a fist

2:38:03 around the nuts. Around the nuts. And then he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut to the little hole. Stop. And then he throws a nut in his mouth from his fist. Then he does it again. He shakes and throws and shakes and throws. It is annoying as hell to watch. Linda Lupatkin is in Castle Rock, Colorado, and she comes with $200 and she wants jobs karma. And she says AI can write your resume. The problem is it can write everyone else's too.

2:38:39 This is correct. Linda helps professionals and executives figure out what makes them different, what makes them valuable, and turns that value into a resume that gets results. You want these results? Go to imagemakersinc.com. That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K. And Linda Lu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes, because your resume should do more than just look good. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You got Sir Scotty Kay from Lakeshore, Minnesota. $200. I'm going to have to shorten your notes now, Sir Coddie, Sir Coddy. Sir Scotty, because you are making them real long.

2:39:24 Bot Commander in the morning to you, Adam, Sir Duceph, and the rest of Gitmo Nation. This is Sir Scotty K, your Royal AI whisperer. That's right, you heard me, Sir Scotty K. I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who has hopped in to try out our AI home and business automation system called Bot Commander. The response has been fantastic. And here's his backstory because this is a value-for-value project. We do support those. About five years ago, my wife and I started my Neighbor to Love Coalition to help end homelessness in our area. We both had adult children who had experienced homelessness and fell through the gaping holes in our system. So we felt compelled by the good Lord, hallelujah, to do something to help. So far, we've built four buildings and 35 units and have more to go. Wow, this is in Minnesota.

2:40:08 Bot Commander was created to give people a free and easy way to take advantage of the advancements in AI to organize their personal lives and even start a business from scratch. 5% of all donations of profits from Bot Commander go to the My Neighbor to Love Coalition. You can get details on it at MNTLC.org, MNTLC.org, 501c3 nonprofit. Help out if you can. What is Bot Commander? Well, it's an AI harness, kind of like Open Craw, Crockpot, the Herpes Agent, and the constipated looking one MetaMusl, but it's significantly better and free. Can you connect podcast indexrobot.com to it? I bet you can.

2:40:51 It's free thanks to the V4V model, which means you send value back if you get value out of it. Bot Commander is created independently, like No Agenda, not by a trillion-dollar effective altruism, Silicon Valley Corporation. Help a brother out and give it a go. Go to the website for all the details. Botcom.ai. That's bot with a B for Bravo. Over 30 features and business tools in a single dashboard. It's amazing. Botcom.a with a B. If you have any issues, be sure to email support at botcom.ai. You know the rest of the story. Is the podcast father? Is the pod? No, it's podfather. There you go. Thank you. Baron Latiquin. And oh, by the way, that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1909.

2:41:34 Oh, boy, I'm messing up. We appreciate you. And remember, those titles you got, they are real. Formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, play. Shut up. There we go. Now we're at $100 from Baron Ladikin from Houston, Texas. We got a Bitcoin donation, $99.06. Thank you. Don't know who it's from. Theodora Sirla in San Marcos, California, 93.64 needs a deduce. You've been deduced. And as always, with $80.08, put it in the calculator.

2:42:17 You'll get it. The boob donation, Sir Kev McLaughlin. the Archduke of Luna, Lover of America, and boobs. He says, PSA, detect it, treat it, defeat it. Boob Cancer Awareness Month. Les Tarkowski, oh, with a little slant here, literally $60.09. Well, that's lopsided. Brian Furley, 50, double nickels on the dime, $55.10. David Oliver from Calastoga, California. He says, nobody will replace JCD. However, I love the new format and rotating guests. More do. Long live JCD. And here are the 50s already. James Sharimetta from Napanok, New York, Foster Birch from New York, New York.

2:42:55 Alexander Zavala, Sir Alexander from Kyle, Texas. And that's it. The rest we will not read because under $50, we never read for reasons of anonymity, but I do see those 49.99s, the 3333s, the 1111s, the 1212s. All of it is incredibly welcome. And we're very grateful that you continue to support the Curry and Dvorak families with your value for value and just for keeping Noah and the Nation together. If you want to support the show with your treasure, go to NoAgendadonations.com. You can put in any number, any amount. That's the beauty of value for value. Whatever value you got out of it, and $5 could be an incredible amount for you. It is appreciated the same as $500, maybe nothing to somebody else. It's all appreciated.

2:43:39 You can even set up a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency, anytime you want. Noagendadonations.com. And we have two birthdays. Mark says happy birthday to his wife, Brenda. She'll be celebrating on Tuesday, October 6th. And Kevin wishes his daughter Anison a very happy birthday. She is turning 10 years old. So, of course, we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. And now the following people will receive the coveted No Agenda JCD challenge coin. I need some window dressing for this. I need a challenge coin. Somebody hop on the Sunos and give me some challenge coin stuff.

2:44:22 Matt from North Carolina, Count Stephen, Rick Olson, Mark Futrell, Sir Ahab, Sir Codes Alot, Brock Reinhold, Aaron Weisgerber, Mark Alos Alcocer, Baroness Dame Kathy and Baron, Sir Greg Simonich, Jeff Zaba, Sir Marco D. Magnanimous, Lee North, Sir Trigger Max, Eric Reinhardt, Tyler Darrington, Robert Shepard, and Mark in Bent Mountain, Virginia, along, of course, with Brenda. And thank you all so very much. Continue to go to NoAgendadonations.com to find out more. Of course, now we do have one dame and two knights to bring up on the podium. I got my sword. I'm all by myself, but it doesn't make it any less official. Brenda in Bent Mountain, Virginia.

2:45:04 Tyler Darrington and Matt, hop up on the podium. All three of you are about to become knights and dame on the No Agenda Roundtable. I hereby pronounce Kate BS. Dame Drinkwine, Sir Tyler, Keeper of Bees, and Sir Alexim of Naganashi. For you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Ren Boys, and Chardonnay. We've got Temple Rolls and Schwibschwap, Prosecco and Charcuterie. Along with that, Ruben S. Living and Rose, Geysers and Sake, Bak and Vanilla, Bongheads and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorch, Gingerland Gerbils, Breast Milk and Pablo Man always, The Mutton and the Mead. Go to NoAgendarings.com. I think we have the challenge coin up there as well.

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2:46:28 Okay, so this is all that we have for today: the meetup that is underway, the IndyNA Tri-State Short and Long Barrel Safety Meetup. I hope it's not raining like it is here in Texas. I hope you're having a great time. That's Dame Maria and Sir Mark of the Greenwood. I expect a bang up meetup report from them. And so I don't know what else is coming up this week, but I can tell you on the 9th of October, Los Benos, California. Three meetups on the 10th of October, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Eagle, Idaho, and Soquel, California. The 15th, Charlotte, North Carolina, Scottsdale, Arizona on the 16th. Long Beach, California on the 17th. Fredericksburg, Texas. That's our backyard here at Bar 1776 with J6 or Jenny.

2:47:10 It's going to be a Hoot and Annie. Join us for that. Hoot and Annie. Orlando, Florida on the 21st. 21st, Los Altos, California on the 24th. And Tilburg, the Netherlands, also on the 24th of October. Keep checking noagendametups.com. Hopefully, we'll get that thing back up and running so that everybody can continue to schedule their No Agenda meetups. If not, keep checking in with the show so you know exactly where you can go to your meetup. And if you can't find one near you, you can always start one yourself. It is very simple. Soon to be back up, noagendameetups.com. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You to be where you want me, triggered on hell lame.

2:47:53 You to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. All right, that's it, everybody. I'm not quite sure what's coming up next. I was hoping. Oh, it's bowl after bowl. Oh, is it live? Maybe not. Okay, that'll be Sir Spencer and Dane DeLorian. That is next on your No Agenda stream. You can always go check out the Podcasting 2.0 podcast if you want to hear about the podcast indexrobot.com. And of course, Wednesday, there will be another We Get to Do This: Pastor Jimmy and I taking a look at the news and the world through a biblical lens.

2:48:36 If you are a believer or Christ curious, you are welcome over there in Get To Nation. And I will, of course, be back on Thursday. I don't know who's going to be co-hosting, so I'll let you know. ASAP, I got to get on the stick with this booking stuff. I never signed up for that. End of show mixes. We have, let me see, Mellow D. We'll kick it off, though, with Sir Ducifer's drum circle. What could possibly go wrong? I'll see you next time, everybody. Until then, remember us at NoAgendadonations.com. As always, a hooey hooey, adios, mofos, and such.

2:50:52 It starts with one tchotchki, and then I add another. And when I find one more, I add it to the other. It grows into some clutter all around my desk. Whose office is this all about? I'll give you just one guess. JCD's office looks like mine. I add to the collection all of the time. If there's room for one more rainstick, on your mind, you'll stick it somewhere here or there, even if it's tight.

2:51:38 Everything you see on the desk or flow is me. And it serves the perfect purpose and functionality. So don't mind the bulls coming from the office door. I'll clean the mess up later. Just don't blacken right. JCD's office looks like mine. I add to the collection all of the time. If there's room for one more rainstick, go remind He'll stick it somewhere here or there even if it's tight Chasey D's office looks like mine I had to the collection all of the time

2:52:28 If there's room for one more rainstick on your mic He'll stick it somewhere here or there even if it's tight Watch it step to Vorak.org slash N Awesome