# Caconian

> A moratorium on Texas data centers and a naval blockade in the Persian Gulf signal a massive shift in American energy and economic sovereignty.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1897
- **Published:** 2026-08-23
- **Length:** 2h 43m
- **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [Rob Dew](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/rob-dew.md) (host)
- **Topics:** Texas Moratorium, Hormuz Blockade, Stablecoin Debt, [Data Centers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-centers.md), Beef Tariffs, University Audits
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian

## About this episode

Governor Greg Abbott has issued a sudden moratorium on AI data center construction in Texas, reversing his previous stance on the state as a technological epicenter. This political pivot comes as the Texas Senate race is reclassified as a toss-up due to local backlash against the massive energy demands of these facilities. President Donald Trump simultaneously met with tech leaders at the White House to promote data centers as a national midterm priority, despite Gallup polling showing 70% of Americans oppose local development.

CENTCOM reports a stealth naval operation in the Strait of Hormuz, where the U.S. military is effectively treating the shipping corridor as American territory to control global oil prices. Treasury advisor Scott Bessent is implementing a massive bond buyback strategy to lower interest rates, while the Mar-a-Lago Accords propose using stablecoins like Tether and Circle to export national debt. Meanwhile, the Pentagon has ordered Harvard and MIT to audit ties to China and Iran following reports of projects being taught in Mandarin to non-U.S. students.

Sir Ducifer Robb Dew returns to the co-host chair alongside Adam Curry to discuss the return of the Hamiltonian tariff system and the rise of the Order of the Ant. The pair explores the realities of naval life aboard the USS Lincoln and the cultural impact of Mary Kay pink Buicks. Jason Calacanis is announced as the upcoming guest host to continue the legacy of the late John C. Dvorak.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/transcript.md.

### 1. Robb Dew Returns as Co-Host, Browser Tab Management (0:00–2:19)

Adam Curry welcomes Sir Ducifer Robb Dew back as co-guest host for episode 1897 of No Agenda. The pair discusses technical improvements since the previous show, specifically addressing Dew's previous audio delay. Dew explains his habit of keeping dozens of browser windows and tabs open across Firefox, Safari, and Brave on his Mac, which he has since consolidated to improve performance.

Keywords: robb dew, [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), browser tabs, [macintosh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/macintosh.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Just Baker Musical Mix, Methylene Blue Supplementation (2:21–4:45)

Producer Just Baker provides a custom musical mix for Robb Dew, incorporating themes of deconstructing media narratives. Dew admits to taking methylene blue supplements before the broadcast, leading to a discussion about the use of producer-made mixes within the show. The hosts reflect on the evolution of the podcast's format regarding the inclusion of music and jingles.

Keywords: [just baker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/just-baker.md), methylene blue, super male vitality, [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), [podcast production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-production.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Freedom 250 Grand Prix, Mary Kay Pink Buicks (4:47–8:07)

The hosts discuss the Freedom 250 Grand Prix, an IndyCar street race held in Washington D.C. near the Lincoln Memorial. This leads to a personal anecdote from Robb Dew about drag racing his mother's 1986 pink Buick Century, which she earned as a top sales director for Mary Kay. Dew shares details about his family's move from Louisiana to Austin, Texas, in the late 1990s.

Keywords: freedom 250 grand prix, [indycar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indycar.md), [washington dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-dc.md), mary kay, buick century

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Alex Jones Interview, Adam Curry Censorship History (8:07–11:13)

A clip from the Alex Jones Show features a caller lobbying Jones to reconnect with Adam Curry. Jones claims Curry stopped appearing on his show ten years ago due to supporter backlash, though Curry clarifies the distance was due to the "great PayPal deplatforming" era. Curry expresses his continued respect for Jones while noting the risks associated with being targeted by globalist entities.

Keywords: [alex jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-jones.md), [infowars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infowars.md), [rumble](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rumble.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [deplatforming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deplatforming.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/4.md)

### 5. AI Cloning Concerns, Wokeism in Large Language Models (11:14–13:27)

The discussion shifts to the possibility of celebrity cloning and digital twins, prompted by Alex Jones's physical transformation. The hosts critique the current state of artificial intelligence, labeling it a "black box" influenced by wokeism. They argue that AI should be viewed as a tool rather than an all-knowing oracle, setting the stage for a broader discussion on the political implications of AI infrastructure.

Keywords: ai cloning, [digital twins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-twins.md), wokeism, [data centers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-centers.md), black boxes

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Donald Trump, AI Data Centers as Midterm Issues (13:27–17:29)

President Donald Trump met with tech leaders at the White House to promote AI data centers as a source of jobs and tax revenue. Despite Trump's endorsement, a Gallup poll indicates that 70% of Americans oppose having data centers built in their local communities. The hosts analyze how this opposition is being framed as a top issue for the upcoming midterm elections.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), ai data centers, [midterms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/midterms.md), tax benefits, [gallup poll](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gallup-poll.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Flock Safety Cameras, Public Surveillance Satire (17:30–21:07)

The hosts play clips of citizens using satire at city council meetings to protest Flock Safety surveillance cameras. One speaker dressed as Darth Vader mocks the tracking of "rebel scum," while another suggests placing cameras in front of government officials' homes for "transparency." The discussion covers the legal reality that the Fourth Amendment offers little protection against cameras on public roads where there is no expectation of privacy.

Keywords: [flock safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flock-safety.md), [license plate readers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/license-plate-readers.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [city council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-council.md), [fourth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fourth-amendment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Data Privacy Hypocrisy, Mobile App Tracking (21:08–25:17)

The hosts highlight the irony of citizens protesting Flock cameras while voluntarily sharing their location and personal data through apps like Instagram and TikTok. They argue that the surveillance state is already functional through smartphones, and the outrage over physical cameras is a "red herring" compared to the massive data harvesting performed by private tech companies.

Keywords: [data privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-privacy.md), [instagram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/instagram.md), [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [surveillance state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance-state.md), public servants

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/8.md)

### 9. AI Data Annotation, Global Digital Sweatshops (25:18–28:47)

A report describes the "army of millions" in the Global South performing manual data annotation for AI companies, labeling images for autonomous vehicles. Adam Curry pushes back against the "sweatshop" narrative, citing his experience with the Sphinx app and Lightning payments. He explains how workers in the Philippines were able to earn micro-payments for these tasks to buy essential goods.

Keywords: data annotation, [global south](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-south.md), digital sweatshops, [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), sphinx

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Texas Data Center Moratorium, Governor Greg Abbott (28:47–33:41)

Governor Greg Abbott has placed a moratorium on new AI data center construction in Texas, despite previously calling the state the "epicenter" of the industry. The hosts characterize this as a political maneuver to avoid backlash during the midterms. They compare the data center boom to the historical expansion of railroads, suggesting the infrastructure will eventually be useful despite the current "bubble."

Keywords: [greg abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-abbott.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [data centers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-centers.md), [ercot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ercot.md), [energy grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-grid.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/10.md)

### 11. ABC News Interview, Texas Senate Race Toss-Up (33:42–37:44)

ABC News reports that the Texas Senate race is now considered a toss-up by the Cook Political Report, partly due to local anger over data centers. The hosts discuss how private equity is offering homeowners in Northern Virginia millions of dollars to sell their properties for data center development. They view this as an opportunity for individuals to take money from firms like BlackRock and Vanguard.

Keywords: [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), cook political report, texas republicans, [midterms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/midterms.md), [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Methane Flaring, Energy Grid Resilience (37:44–42:26)

The hosts discuss the potential for data centers to utilize stranded energy, such as methane gas currently being flared off in oil fields. This leads to a conversation about personal energy independence in Texas following Winter Storm Uri in 2021. Both hosts share their investments in solar power and whole-house generators to mitigate the unreliability of the state's power grid.

Keywords: methane flaring, gas fields, whole house generators, [solar power](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/solar-power.md), [winter storm uri](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/winter-storm-uri.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Operation Lockstep, Dolly Parton Vaccine Messaging (42:26–46:22)

The hosts critique the poor public relations efforts of data center companies, comparing them to the coordinated messaging of "Operation Lockstep." They revisit the COVID-19 vaccine rollout, playing a clip of Dolly Parton singing a modified version of "Jolene" to encourage vaccination. They argue that the data center industry failed to hire the right firms to manufacture similar public consent.

Keywords: operation lockstep, [dolly parton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dolly-parton.md), [moderna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moderna.md), [public relations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-relations.md), [messaging](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/messaging.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/13.md)

### 14. CCP Infiltration, US University Audits (46:22–50:24)

The Pentagon has ordered 30 universities, including Harvard and MIT, to audit their ties to foreign adversaries like China, Russia, and Iran. Reports suggest that some Pentagon-funded projects were being taught in Mandarin to non-U.S. students. The hosts discuss the "elite capture" strategy allegedly used by the Chinese Communist Party to influence American higher education.

Keywords: [ccp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ccp.md), [confucius institutes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/confucius-institutes.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [harvard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harvard.md), [mit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mit.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Massachusetts Voter Fraud, West Wing Realism (50:24–54:29)

A Chinese national in Massachusetts was charged with voter fraud after impersonating a neighbor to cast a ballot, reportedly as part of a personal vendetta. This prompts a reflection on the television show "The West Wing," where election results were called by 11:00 PM. The hosts contrast this with modern elections that often take weeks to finalize due to mail-in ballots.

Keywords: [voter fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voter-fraud.md), [massachusetts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/massachusetts.md), yu pin sun, the west wing, [election results](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-results.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Strait of Hormuz, US Naval Blockade (54:29–59:19)

CENTCOM reports a stealth operation to guide 10 million barrels of oil per day through a shipping corridor hugging the coast of Oman. The hosts discuss the U.S. naval blockade of Iran, which they claim has been 100% successful in stopping Iranian exports while allowing other traffic. They argue that the U.S. effectively treats the Strait of Hormuz as American territory to control global oil prices.

Keywords: [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), [centcom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/centcom.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [oil prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-prices.md), [oman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oman.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Axios Reports, Trump on Hormuz Territory (59:19–1:02:24)

CBS News confirms Axios reports regarding the U.S. military's protection of oil tankers in the Persian Gulf. During a rally, Donald Trump explicitly referred to the Strait of Hormuz as "American territory." The hosts analyze the strategic depth of the Omani side of the strait compared to the Iranian side, which facilitates safer passage for large tankers under U.S. protection.

Keywords: [axios](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/axios.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), hormuz, territorial claims

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/17.md)

### 18. RBC Capital Markets, Economic Pressure on Iran (1:02:25–1:05:34)

Analyst Aleema Croft discusses whether maximum economic pressure will change Iran's behavior or if the leadership believes they can outlast Western sanctions. The hosts criticize the analyst's suggestion that the U.S. should target Russia and China for supporting Iran, arguing that China has already distanced itself from the conflict to protect its own interests.

Keywords: aleema croft, rbc capital markets, [sanctions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanctions.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/18.md)

### 19. USS Lincoln, Naval Life Realities (1:05:35–1:09:24)

A "Boots on the Ground" report from a soldier under NAVCENT provides a perspective on the living conditions aboard the USS Lincoln. The report addresses complaints about moldy showers and the mental "wear and tear" of long deployments. The soldier shares an anecdote about meeting another No Agenda listener while discussing the Iranian peace deal during breakfast.

Keywords: uss lincoln, navcent, military life, [groundhog day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/groundhog-day.md), [boots on the ground](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boots-on-the-ground.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Iranian History, 1979 Revolution Consequences (1:09:25–1:11:36)

Adam Curry reflects on the historical shifts in Iran from 1946 to the 1979 revolution, acknowledging the U.S. role in the country's instability. He argues that the current administration's aggressive stance is a necessary correction for long-standing geopolitical problems. The hosts briefly compare the harsh conditions of naval life to the dust and sanitation issues at Burning Man.

Keywords: [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), 1979 revolution, [gen x](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gen-x.md), geopolitical history, [military strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-strategy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Treasury Buybacks, Scott Bessent's Market Strategy (1:11:37–1:15:32)

Treasury advisor Scott Bessent is implementing a strategy to lower interest rates by increasing the size of government bond buybacks. The goal is to signal that current yields do not reflect underlying fundamentals, which have been distorted by massive corporate bond issuance for AI projects. The hosts explain how the Treasury is using short-term T-bills to fund these operations.

Keywords: [scott bessent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-bessent.md), treasury buybacks, t-bills, [interest rates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/interest-rates.md), corporate bonds

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Treasury Twist, Janet Yellen Precedent (1:15:32–1:19:09)

The hosts compare Bessent's current strategy to the "Treasury Twist" previously utilized by Janet Yellen. While Bessent and other advisors once criticized Yellen for being "opportunistic" with bond auctions, they are now employing similar tactics on a larger scale. Bessent claims to have "asymmetric information" that justifies these interventions to stabilize the market.

Keywords: treasury twist, [janet yellen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janet-yellen.md), [kevin warsh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kevin-warsh.md), asymmetric information, [bond market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bond-market.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Dollar Debasement, National Debt Growth Strategy (1:19:10–1:22:26)

The hosts argue that the Treasury's market interventions lead to the debasement of the U.S. dollar and a loss of purchasing power for citizens. Scott Bessent suggests the U.S. must "grow its way out" of the $40 trillion national debt through a global growth strategy and fiscal consolidation. Adam Curry notes that while mortgage rates are rising, the real issue is that wages are not keeping pace with inflation.

Keywords: dollar debasement, [national debt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-debt.md), [purchasing power](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/purchasing-power.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [mortgage rates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mortgage-rates.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Mar-a-Lago Accords, Stablecoin Reserve Gambit (1:22:26–1:26:20)

The "Mar-a-Lago Accords" involve a strategy to use stablecoins as a primary vehicle for exporting U.S. debt. Stablecoins like Tether (USDT) and Circle (USDC) are backed by short-term Treasury bills, creating a new global demand for the dollar. The hosts explain that this system allows the U.S. to maintain its status as the ultimate reserve currency by tokenizing its debt for international users.

Keywords: [stablecoins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stablecoins.md), [tether](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tether.md), circle, t-bills, [eurodollar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eurodollar.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Bitcoin ETFs, Tokenized Treasury Debt (1:26:20–1:30:07)

The hosts discuss the rise of Bitcoin ETFs as a safe way for traditional investors to gain exposure to hard assets. They explain the concept of "tokenized treasury debt," where government bonds are represented as tokens on a blockchain to make them easier to trade. The proposed Clarity Act aims to regulate this space, though banks are reportedly lobbying against it to protect their traditional fee structures.

Keywords: bitcoin etf, [tokenization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tokenization.md), [blockchain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blockchain.md), [clarity act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clarity-act.md), [silicon valley bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley-bank.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Bernstein Private Wealth, Stablecoin Interest Incentives (1:30:07–1:33:28)

Roosevelt Bowman of Bernstein Private Wealth compares the Treasury's buyback efforts to holding a beach ball underwater, noting that yields often pop back up once the intervention stops. The hosts discuss how stablecoin companies make massive profits by keeping the interest on the T-bills that back their coins, potentially offering "points" or rewards to users under the new Clarity Act.

Keywords: roosevelt bowman, bernstein private wealth, [clarity act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clarity-act.md), [interest rates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/interest-rates.md), points

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Brian Armstrong, SEC Crypto Regulation (1:33:29–1:37:38)

Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong discusses the importance of the Clarity Act for providing regulatory certainty in the crypto industry. He argues the bill includes consumer protections to prevent another FTX-style collapse and allows for more efficient capital formation. Adam Curry warns that while stablecoins offer utility, they are "digital dollars" that the government can turn off at will, unlike physical cash.

Keywords: brian armstrong, [coinbase](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coinbase.md), [sec](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sec.md), [clarity act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clarity-act.md), [ftx](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ftx.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Hamiltonian System, Blue-Collar Job Incentives (1:37:38–1:41:12)

The hosts discuss the return of the "Hamiltonian system" of tariffs to encourage domestic manufacturing and steel production. They highlight the shift in societal values toward blue-collar trades, noting that skilled workers like electricians can earn over $200,000 a year. They argue that the current economic environment provides a strong incentive for the younger generation to pursue vocational careers.

Keywords: hamiltonian system, [tariffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tariffs.md), blue-collar jobs, electricians, [vocational training](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vocational-training.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Argentina Beef Deal, US Cattle Rancher Concerns (1:41:12–1:45:30)

Donald Trump announced a deal to import 300,000 metric tons of ground beef from Argentina to lower U.S. grocery prices. A "Boots on the Ground" cattle rancher warns that this move has already caused a 40-cent-per-pound drop in live cattle prices, threatening the profitability of American producers. The rancher argues that importing "scrap cuts" will de-incentivize U.S. herd rebuilding and compromise food quality.

Keywords: [argentina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/argentina.md), beef imports, cattle ranchers, [javier milei](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/javier-milei.md), [market crash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/market-crash.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Tyson Plant Closures, Regenerative Ranching (1:45:31–1:49:13)

The hosts discuss the monopoly on beef processing held by a few large companies like Tyson, which they blame for high consumer prices. They advocate for regenerative ranching and local processing, citing examples like K&C Cattle in Luling, Texas. Adam Curry shares his experience buying beef directly from local ranchers to bypass the industrial supply chain and support community-based agriculture.

Keywords: [tyson foods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tyson-foods.md), [price fixing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/price-fixing.md), regenerative agriculture, [texas slim](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas-slim.md), local processing

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Beef Education, Direct-to-Consumer Meat Sales (1:49:12–1:54:39)

Adam Curry promotes "beefmaps.com" as a tool for consumers to find local ranchers. He details his own "carnivore-adjacent" diet and the cost-effectiveness of buying large roasts from Costco or whole animals from local producers like Steiner Ranch. Curry emphasizes that ground beef remains one of the most nutritious and affordable options for families if they are educated on how to prepare it.

Keywords: beefmaps.com, [wagyu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wagyu.md), [carnivore diet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carnivore-diet.md), [costco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/costco.md), steiner ranch

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Brooke Rollins, Iowa State Fair Announcement (1:54:39–1:56:53)

Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins defends the decision to import Argentine beef, claiming it will provide a 25% price decrease for lower-income families. The Iowa Cattlemen's Association opposes the move, fearing it will harm domestic producers. Adam Curry also mentions his new podcast, "We Get To Do This," co-hosted with Pastor Jimmy, which focuses on faith and Christianity.

Keywords: [brooke rollins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brooke-rollins.md), agriculture secretary, iowa state fair, [tariffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tariffs.md), [ground beef](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ground-beef.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Ras Mundi Band, New Orleans Music Scene (1:56:53–2:00:22)

Robb Dew discusses his band, Ras Mundi, a "reggae hip-hop funk" group that focuses on pro-humanity themes. He details their upcoming performance schedule in New Orleans and Lafayette, Louisiana, including a gig at the Freetown Boom Boom Room. Dew explains that he returned to music now that his children are older and more independent.

Keywords: ras mundi, reggae, funk, [new orleans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-orleans.md), [lafayette](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lafayette.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Jason Calacanis, Tyrannical Lisp Retrospective (2:00:22–2:03:50)

Adam Curry announces that Jason Calacanis will guest host the following Sunday. He recalls his long history with Calacanis in the New York "Silicon Alley" scene and shares a "Tyrannical Lisp" segment in honor of the late John C. Dvorak. The segment features a satirical report on IKEA experimenting with insect-based meatballs to encourage alternative protein consumption.

Keywords: [jason calacanis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jason-calacanis.md), [david sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-sachs.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [tyrannical lisp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tyrannical-lisp.md), insect meatballs

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Order of the Ant, Value for Value Model (2:03:50–2:07:56)

The hosts introduce "The Order of the Ant," a new donation tier of $333.33 that honors John C. Dvorak's legacy. They encourage listeners to use modern podcast apps like Fountain and Podverse that support the Value for Value model. Adam Curry explains that the show relies entirely on listener support rather than traditional commercials, which are increasingly being skipped by users on platforms like Spotify.

Keywords: [order of the ant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/order-of-the-ant.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcast apps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-apps.md), [fountain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fountain.md), [podverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podverse.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/35.md)

### 36. No Agenda Art, Francisco Scaramanga (2:07:56–2:10:38)

Adam Curry praises the recent contributions to the No Agenda Art Generator, specifically highlighting Francisco Scaramanga's "ChatGPT for Teens" cover. The artwork, styled after a teen magazine like Tiger Beat, is lauded for its spot-on satire. Curry also mentions Tyler Brown's "Surf and the Harmoose" and encourages more submissions for the current episode.

Keywords: [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), [francisco scaramanga](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/francisco-scaramanga.md), [chatgpt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chatgpt.md), tiger beat, [album art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/album-art.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Executive Producer Credits, Danish and Canadian Donors (2:10:38–2:14:35)

Adam Curry reads the notes from top donors, including Lasse Jensen from Denmark and Brett Carothers from British Columbia. Carothers, owner of Hollywood Tree, requests a knighthood and offers a live edge slab for the show's roundtable. Several donors express their condolences regarding the passing of John C. Dvorak and their commitment to joining the Order of the Ant.

Keywords: [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [denmark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denmark.md), [british columbia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/british-columbia.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [order of the ant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/order-of-the-ant.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Knighthood Ceremony, Listener Tributes to JCD (2:14:36–2:18:47)

The show continues with the knighthood ceremony for several producers, including Sir Double J and Sir Robertson of Two Sticks. Donors share personal stories of listening to the show for over a decade and the impact John C. Dvorak had on their lives. Adam Curry plays requested jingles, including "Mac and Cheese" and "Shut Up Slave," as part of the ceremony.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [jcd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jcd.md), [order of the ant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/order-of-the-ant.md), street tacos, [mac and cheese](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mac-and-cheese.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Associate Executive Producers, Gigawatt Coffee (2:18:47–2:23:01)

Adam Curry thanks the Associate Executive Producers and show supporters, including Manuka Gold and Eli the Coffee Guy from Gigawatt Coffee Roasters. He also acknowledges Nicholas Ficklin, producer of Sklazin Hot Sauce, who created a special batch in honor of JCD. The segment concludes with the classic "I Got Ants" jingle in recognition of the new Order of the Ant.

Keywords: [manuka gold](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manuka-gold.md), [gigawatt coffee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gigawatt-coffee.md), [associate executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/associate-executive-producer.md), [hot sauce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hot-sauce.md), [ants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ants.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Bot Commander AI, Image Makers Resumes (2:23:04–2:27:08)

Producer Scott Kinney introduces "Bot Commander," a free AI home and business automation system that operates on the Value for Value model. Linda Lou Patkin of Image Makers Inc. also receives a shout-out for her resume-writing services. Adam Curry encourages listeners to support these producer-run businesses that contribute to the No Agenda ecosystem.

Keywords: [bot commander](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bot-commander.md), [image makers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/image-makers.md), [resumes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/resumes.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Final Donor Roll, Knighting of Sir Tree Daddy (2:27:12–2:32:15)

The final list of donors is read, including Sir Victor of the Willamette Valley and Sir Nate of the Rogue Valley. Adam Curry officially knights Sir Tree Daddy, Sir Double J, and Sir Foam of the Dan Barre, assigning them their virtual roundtable refreshments. He reminds the new knights and dames to visit the show's website to claim their rings and wax seals.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [willamette valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/willamette-valley.md), rogue valley, [round table](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/round-table.md), wax seals

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Felix Wilson, Reno Meetup Report (2:32:18–2:35:49)

Sir Felix Wilson, son of the "Drunken Minstrel" Chris Wilson, provides a humorous audio clip calling his father a "douchebag" and supporting the show's future. This is followed by a series of reports from a No Agenda meetup in Reno, Nevada. Attendees share their love for the Dvorak family and emphasize the show's motto that "connection is protection."

Keywords: [felix wilson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/felix-wilson.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), reno meetup, [connection is protection](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/connection-is-protection.md), jcd tribute

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Global Meetup Schedule, Episode 1897 Sign-Off (2:35:50–2:39:36)

Adam Curry lists upcoming No Agenda meetups in the Netherlands, Switzerland, and across the United States, including the 19th-anniversary celebration in October. He encourages listeners to start their own local groups to build community resilience. The episode concludes with a final tribute to John C. Dvorak and a musical mix by Just Baker.

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [switzerland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/switzerland.md), [fredericksburg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fredericksburg.md), [grimerica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grimerica.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1897-caconian/chapter/43.md)

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