# Fever Concerns > Federal vaccine mandates face a massive rollback as AI energy demands trigger a nuclear renaissance and global energy routes shift to bypass the Strait of Hormuz. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 1894 - **Published:** 2026-08-13 - **Length:** 2h 55m - **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host) - **Topics:** [Vaccine Schedule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-schedule.md), Operation Economic Fury, AI Nuclear Power, [Chicago Bears](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago-bears.md), Mocro Maffia, [Open Source AI](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-source-ai.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns ## About this episode President Donald Trump signed an executive order reducing the childhood vaccine schedule from 18 to 11 shots, specifically mandating the separation of the MMR vaccine into three distinct doses. Senator Ron Johnson and Dr. Serena Chen face scrutiny over leaked communications from Dr. Anthony Fauci regarding first-trimester miscarriage risks, while mainstream outlets like CNBC and Morning Joe defend current pharmaceutical protocols amid shifting federal policy. In the Midwest, a massive derecho and tornado system battered Illinois, prompting sharp criticism of ComEd infrastructure as rumors swirl that the Chicago Bears may relocate to Indiana under a new regional branding deal. Economic strategist Scott Bessent detailed Operation Economic Fury, a plan to cripple the Iranian economy through hyperinflation and the expansion of the Habshan-Fujairah pipeline to bypass the Strait of Hormuz by 2027. Meanwhile, the energy demands of AI data centers are sparking a nuclear power renaissance, with Westinghouse and GE reporting sold-out turbine inventories through 2030 despite local opposition in Detroit over rising utility costs. Darren O'Neill and Larry Blyden test a new media assassination introduction while honoring the late John C. Dvorak with a special memorial challenge coin designed by Sir Paul Couture. Adam Curry shares a harrowing personal account of retinal detachment and the failures of the medical establishment, while Mark Zuckerberg issues a 14-page manifesto advocating for a return to open-source AI development. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/transcript.md. ### 1. No Agenda Episode 1894 Introduction, New Intro Testing (0:00–1:38) Darren O'Neill and Larry Blyden open episode 1894 of the No Agenda Show on August 13, 2026. The hosts test a new "media assassination" introduction produced by Jess Baker, comparing the vocal style to James Earl Jones and characters from Battlestar Galactica. They reference the "Podfather" and his desire to move away from previous introductory styles. Keywords: [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md), larry blyden, [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), jess baker, [james earl jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-earl-jones.md), thulsa doom, [podfather](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podfather.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Illinois Weather, Derecho and Tornado Impact (1:39–4:05) A massive derecho storm system moved from Iowa into the Chicago area, bringing hurricane-force straight-line winds and a 300-yard-wide tornado. The hosts describe the intense sound of the storm and the resulting power flickering in Illinois. Criticism is directed at ComEd and the state's infrastructure for failing to handle these increasingly frequent severe weather events. Keywords: derecho, [illinois](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illinois.md), [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), [tornado](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tornado.md), comed, [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md), [weather](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Chicago Bears Relocation, Indiana Name Change Rumors (4:05–5:45) Rumors suggest the Chicago Bears may announce a move that involves incorporating "Indiana" into the team's name as part of a new subsidy deal. The hosts discuss the political implications of Illinois politicians potentially letting the franchise leave the state. This shift would transition the team from a city-specific franchise to a broader state or regional identity. Keywords: [chicago bears](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago-bears.md), [indiana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indiana.md), pritzker, sportsball, [nfl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nfl.md), [illinois](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illinois.md), stadium deal [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Senator Ron Johnson, Fauci COVID-19 Pregnancy Data (5:46–10:27) Senator Ron Johnson reveals private communications from Dr. Anthony Fauci regarding potential cytokine storms and first-trimester miscarriage risks associated with COVID-19 vaccines. The discussion highlights a 2021 CDC paper by Tom Shambukuro, alleging that the reported 12.6% miscarriage rate was misleadingly calculated. Recalculating the data for women injected before 20 weeks suggests a much higher spontaneous abortion rate of 82%. Keywords: [ron johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-johnson.md), [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [miscarriage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miscarriage.md), [cytokine storm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cytokine-storm.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), tom shambukuro [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Dr. Serena Chen, CBS Vaccine Advocacy Defense (10:28–15:22) Dr. Serena Chen, an OBGYN from New Jersey, defends the public health recommendation for pregnant women to receive mRNA vaccines despite private concerns raised by federal officials. The hosts criticize her appearance on CBS Evening News, arguing that the medical establishment ignored traditional safety protocols for pregnant women. They suggest that financial ties to pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer may influence these continued public endorsements. Keywords: serena chen, [cbs evening news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-evening-news.md), [mrna vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mrna-vaccine.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [pregnancy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pregnancy.md), [medical ethics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-ethics.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Donald Trump Executive Order, Childhood Vaccine Schedule (15:23–17:35) President Donald Trump signed an executive order to reduce the number of recommended childhood vaccines from 18 to 11. The order specifically directs the MMR vaccine to be split into three separate shots spaced out over time rather than a single combined dose. While the administration maintains that vaccines remain available and covered by insurance, mainstream media outlets report concerns from pediatricians regarding declining vaccination rates and debunked links to autism. Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [mmr vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mmr-vaccine.md), [hepatitis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hepatitis.md), [measles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/measles.md), [autism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autism.md), [executive order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-order.md), [pediatricians](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pediatricians.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/6.md) ### 7. CNBC Critique, Vaccine Administration and Autism Rates (17:35–23:23) The hosts critique CNBC's coverage of the vaccine executive order, noting the absence of medical doctors in the Oval Office during the announcement. They argue that the media is beholden to pharmaceutical advertisers and ignores anecdotal evidence regarding rising autism rates. The discussion emphasizes that the order does not ban vaccines but seeks to mitigate potential side effects by changing the administration schedule. Keywords: [cnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnbc.md), [tony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tony-fauci.md), [mmr vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mmr-vaccine.md), [autism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autism.md), [measles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/measles.md), [pharmaceutical advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-advertising.md), [medical records](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-records.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Naomi Wolf, New York City mRNA "Zombie" Theory (23:24–27:49) Author Naomi Wolf describes a "missing vibe" and a "zombie-like quality" in the population of New York City following mass mRNA injections. She attributes this perceived loss of human energy and magnetism to the effects of lipid nanoparticles on the body. The hosts corroborate this observation, noting a change in the city's pace and social connectivity, while also mentioning plummeting birth rates. Keywords: [naomi wolf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/naomi-wolf.md), [mrna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mrna.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [lipid nanoparticles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lipid-nanoparticles.md), [zombie apocalypse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zombie-apocalypse.md), [birth rates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birth-rates.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Morning Joe, MMR Vaccine Safety Debate (27:49–33:29) Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski on MSNBC's Morning Joe label Trump's vaccine schedule changes as "dangerous and false." The hosts mock Scarborough's claim of having "studied" the medical evidence and suggest the network's stance is driven by Pfizer's advertising revenue. Additionally, they note that "Fauci" has entered the Urban Dictionary as a verb meaning to plead the fifth or avoid self-incrimination. Keywords: [morning joe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/morning-joe.md), [mika brzezinski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mika-brzezinski.md), [joe scarborough](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-scarborough.md), [mmr vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mmr-vaccine.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [urban dictionary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/urban-dictionary.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Wisconsin Primary Elections, Hong vs. Crowley Results (33:29–40:22) The Wisconsin primary election results showed a narrow defeat for DSA-backed candidate Hong against David Crowley, despite polling suggesting a 20-point lead for Hong. The hosts analyze live coverage of a late-night ballot surge in Brown County that shifted the margins. They describe the outcome as the Democratic establishment "striking back" against progressive insurgents, noting that Republicans had meddled in the race by running ads for Hong. Keywords: [wisconsin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wisconsin.md), dane county, brown county, david crowley, [dsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dsa.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [election fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-fraud.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Barack Obama Indiana Ballot Fraud, Save America Act (40:23–42:43) A discussion on CNN regarding the Save America Act brought up a historical instance of fraudulent ballot signatures used to get Barack Obama on the primary ballot in Indiana. The hosts highlight that Democratic officials went to jail for this scheme, yet the CNN anchor dismissed it as a localized "Indiana issue" rather than a broader voting integrity concern. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [indiana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indiana.md), [david axelrod](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-axelrod.md), ballot fraud, [save america act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/save-america-act.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [election integrity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-integrity.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Jen Psaki, Democratic Party Candidate Selection (42:43–45:45) Jen Psaki and Liz Smith admitted on air that Democratic party leadership historically selected nominees through funding and endorsements rather than letting voters decide. The hosts discuss how this dynamic is shifting with the rise of "woke" DSA candidates who focus on Medicare for All and protecting illegal immigrants. They argue these candidates struggle in working-class areas despite their popularity in university settings. Keywords: [jen psaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jen-psaki.md), liz smith, [dsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dsa.md), [democratic party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-party.md), [primaries](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/primaries.md), woke universities [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Abdul El-Sayed, DSA Platform and Millionaire Taxes (45:46–51:17) Abdul El-Sayed, a Rhodes Scholar funded by the Soros Foundation, is highlighted for his ties to the Obama-Axelrod political machine. The hosts critique the DSA platform, which includes abolishing ICE, defunding the police, and creating state-run grocery stores. They play a clip of a DSA co-chair struggling to define the specifics of a proposed "millionaires tax" during a Fox News interview. Keywords: [abdul el-sayed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abdul-el-sayed.md), [dsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dsa.md), [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md), [ice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ice.md), [defund the police](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/defund-the-police.md), millionaires tax [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/13.md) ### 14. The Red-Green Alliance, Texas School Board Curriculum (51:17–54:27) The "Red-Green Alliance" describes a political partnership between socialists and Islamic groups to influence local government and school boards. In Texas, citizens mobilized against a curriculum proposal that sought to remove Bible history in favor of Islamic teachings. The hosts also note the installation of Muslim foot-wash stations at Dallas Fort Worth Airport as evidence of this growing cultural shift. Keywords: [red-green alliance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-green-alliance.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [school board](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/school-board.md), [ramadan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ramadan.md), [ten commandments](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ten-commandments.md), dallas fort worth airport [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Political Philosophy, Apathy and the "ASTCO" Concept (54:28–57:15) A host introduces the acronym "ASTCO" (Asshole Seeking to Control Others) to describe people obsessed with governing others' lives. They argue that most Americans simply want to be left alone but have become apathetic toward local governance like school boards and PTAs. This apathy, they claim, allows radical groups to change society "under their noses," as seen in Europe. Keywords: astco, [communism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/communism.md), [socialism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/socialism.md), [apathy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apathy.md), [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), [muslim brotherhood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/muslim-brotherhood.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Personal Voting History, MTV VJ White House Invitation (57:16–1:00:40) A host recounts his time as an MTV VJ, admitting he didn't start voting until his mid-20s while living in New York. He shares an anecdote about receiving an invitation from Hillary Clinton to visit the White House, which he missed because he was on assignment covering a pro-mogul skiing tour in British Columbia. Keywords: [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [voting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voting.md), [vjs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vjs.md), skiing, [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Cultural Shifts in the Netherlands, Rotterdam and Amsterdam (1:00:42–1:05:20) The hosts discuss the degradation of Dutch culture due to mass immigration and the influence of the "Mocro Maffia" drug cartels in Rotterdam. They lament the "Disney-ization" of Amsterdam, where traditional shops are replaced by TikTok-driven tourist attractions. The segment touches on the loss of liberal social norms, such as public breastfeeding and topless beaches, which have been curtailed by changing demographics. Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [rotterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rotterdam.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), mocro maffia, [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [stroopwafel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stroopwafel.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Global Oil Trade, US Steel Production and Tariffs (1:05:22–1:09:28) The discussion shifts to the strategic importance of the oil trade and the revitalization of the American steel industry through Section 232 tariffs. The hosts cite reports of a manufacturing boom in the U.S. and a shortage of skilled tradespeople like welders and electricians. They argue that Trump's focus on production and legacy is more significant than midterm election results. Keywords: [oil trade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-trade.md), [steel industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steel-industry.md), [tariffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tariffs.md), [trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump.md), [mike rowe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-rowe.md), [straits of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/straits-of-hormuz.md), [manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Operation Economic Fury, Scott Bessent on Iran (1:09:28–1:11:58) Scott Bessent, described as a key economic strategist, outlines "Operation Economic Fury," a plan to cripple the Iranian economy through hyperinflation and missile production strikes. The goal is to force a ceasefire and render the Straits of Hormuz irrelevant for global energy transport. Bessent predicts that within two years, energy will move primarily through underground pipelines rather than contested maritime routes. Keywords: [scott bessent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-bessent.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), operation economic fury, [straits of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/straits-of-hormuz.md), food inflation, [treasury department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasury-department.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/19.md) ### 20. UAE Pipeline Expansion, Bypassing the Strait of Hormuz (1:11:58–1:15:59) The UAE is fast-tracking the expansion of the Habshan-Fujairah pipeline to bypass the Strait of Hormuz entirely by 2027. This strategic shift by Gulf monarchies aims to secure oil exports to the Gulf of Oman, away from Iranian interference. The hosts suggest this "chess move" will stabilize global energy prices and create a lasting legacy for the current U.S. administration's foreign policy. Keywords: [uae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uae.md), [abu dhabi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abu-dhabi.md), [fujairah](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fujairah.md), sheikh khalid, [oil pipeline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-pipeline.md), [opec](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opec.md), [suez canal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suez-canal.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/20.md) ### 21. AI Data Centers, Nuclear Power Renaissance (1:15:59–1:19:04) The massive energy demands of AI data centers are driving a renaissance in nuclear and gas-fired power generation. Companies like Westinghouse are seeing a surge in demand for small modular reactors (SMRs) as market forces, rather than government subsidies, build out new energy infrastructure. The hosts argue that even if the AI bubble bursts, the resulting increase in power capacity will benefit American productivity. Keywords: [ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), [anthropic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthropic.md), [nuclear power](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-power.md), [data centers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-centers.md), [westinghouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/westinghouse.md), carbon free, [energy grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-grid.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Trump's Iran Strategy, Military Casualties and Oil Prices (1:19:05–1:22:25) The hosts discuss Trump's restraint in avoiding a full-scale kinetic war with Iran while successfully strangling their economy. They honor the 18 service members who died in the conflict, contrasting the cost with domestic murder rates in cities like Chicago. The segment also references a conversation between Trump and Joe Rogan regarding assassination threats and the debunked theory of "peak oil." Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [ufc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ufc.md), [peak oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peak-oil.md), [energy security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-security.md), military heroes [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Detroit Data Center Opposition, Utility Price Concerns (1:22:25–1:27:01) Residents in Detroit and other parts of Michigan are expressing fear over the construction of large AI data centers, citing concerns about rising utility bills and massive water usage. A "man on the street" interview highlights the anxiety of seniors regarding $200 water bills. Despite local opposition, GE has reportedly sold out its power-generating turbines through 2030 to meet the needs of these facilities. Keywords: [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), [michigan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michigan.md), [data centers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-centers.md), [water usage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/water-usage.md), [utilities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/utilities.md), ge turbines, [noise pollution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noise-pollution.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Larry Fink and BlackRock, AI Infrastructure as Asset Class (1:27:03–1:31:18) Larry Fink of BlackRock and Jensen Huang of NVIDIA are spearheading a $500 billion investment initiative to treat AI compute as a new asset class. Critics compare this "financial engineering" to the mortgage-backed securities bubble that led to the 2008 financial crisis. The plan involves raising trillions of dollars from sovereign wealth funds to build out global AI infrastructure. Keywords: [larry fink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-fink.md), [blackrock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackrock.md), [nvidia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nvidia.md), [jensen huang](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jensen-huang.md), [private credit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-credit.md), [mortgage-backed securities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mortgage-backed-securities.md), financial engineering [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Sustainable Energy Financing, Open Source AI Models (1:31:19–1:33:42) Market-driven forces are financing the construction of 14 new nuclear plants in the U.S., with dozens more planned to provide base-load power for the grid. The hosts predict that electricity prices will eventually drop, benefiting Bitcoin miners and developers using efficient, open-source AI models. They argue that smaller, distilled AI models will eventually reduce the massive power requirements currently seen in the industry. Keywords: [sustainable energy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sustainable-energy.md), nuclear plants, [bitcoin mining](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin-mining.md), [open source ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-source-ai.md), [electricity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electricity.md), [westinghouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/westinghouse.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Robot Radio Stations, Christian Contemporary Music Project (1:33:42–1:36:11) A host describes running 15 automated "robot" radio stations from a single home computer using Whisper AI and open-source models. The stations broadcast Christian Contemporary Music (CCM), featuring artists like Brandon Lake and Jellyroll. This setup allows for the creation of voices and promos at a fraction of the cost of commercial AI services like Anthropic. Keywords: christian contemporary music, brandon lake, jellyroll, whisper ai, [anthropic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthropic.md), robot radio [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Mark Zuckerberg's AI Manifesto, Open Source Strategy (1:36:12–1:40:10) Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg released a 14-page manifesto outlining an optimistic vision for AI and a return to open-source development. The document addresses environmental concerns, job creation, and pushes back against government-imposed "guardrails" that could create a competitive moat for larger firms. The hosts discuss how AI is becoming a tool for non-coders to build functional business applications. Keywords: [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [meta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meta.md), [open source](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-source.md), [axios](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/axios.md), ina fried, alexander wang, ai guardrails [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/27.md) ### 28. AI Business Automation, "We Get To Do This" Podcast (1:40:11–1:42:13) A host explains how he used AI to automate the back-office operations for his podcast "We Get To Do This." By using "robot" assistants to integrate Stripe and PayPal APIs, he created a system to manage donations and spreadsheets without manual entry. This automation is presented as a way to streamline small businesses and reduce administrative friction. Keywords: [stripe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stripe.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md), api tokens, [newsletters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletters.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Phoebe Gates, Fia AI Cookie Stuffing Allegations (1:42:14–1:43:04) Phoebe Gates and Sophie Kiani, co-founders of the AI shopping assistant Fia, face allegations of "cookie stuffing" to hijack affiliate commissions. The hosts compare the scheme to the browser extension Honey, noting that the practice involves claiming commissions on sales the assistant did not actually drive. They suggest that Gates may face legal consequences for this form of digital fraud. Keywords: phoebe gates, sophie kiani, fia ai, cookie stuffing, affiliate fraud, commissions [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/29.md) ### 30. History of Dial-Up Modems, Baud Rates and Tech Wars (1:43:05–1:47:58) The hosts reminisce about the evolution of modem speeds, from 300 baud acoustic couplers to 56k V.90 technology. They discuss the "modem wars" between vendors like Hayes and US Robotics and the distinct sounds associated with different connection speeds. One host recalls using a TRS-100 laptop with an acoustic coupler to file news stories from the field. Keywords: [dial-up](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dial-up.md), [modems](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/modems.md), baud rate, us robotics, hayes compatible, [trs-100](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trs-100.md), acoustic coupler [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Molson Ice Polar Beach Party, Arctic Live Stream Story (1:47:59–1:51:57) A host shares a story about building a "Roadbox" with 30 multiplexed modems to live stream a Metallica concert from the Arctic Circle for the Molson Ice Polar Beach Party. The event took place in the dry village of Tuktoyaktuk and featured bands like Veruca Salt and Hole. The segment concludes with a discussion on the current state of rural broadband and the transition to Starlink and fiber optics. Keywords: [molson ice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/molson-ice.md), [metallica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metallica.md), [courtney love](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/courtney-love.md), [arctic circle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arctic-circle.md), [starlink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/starlink.md), [fiber optic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiber-optic.md), rural broadband [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Frank Kendall, Air Force Security Clearance Lawsuit (1:51:58–1:56:11) Former Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall is suing the government after his security clearance was revoked following critical comments about a Qatari-gifted Air Force One. Kendall, who is currently promoting his book *Lethal Autonomy*, argues the revocation impacts his ability to serve on defense advisory boards. The hosts note that a 1988 Supreme Court ruling gives the executive branch broad discretion over classified access. Keywords: [frank kendall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/frank-kendall.md), [air force](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force.md), [security clearance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-clearance.md), lethal autonomy, [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [defense contractors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/defense-contractors.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/32.md) ### 33. No Agenda Guest Hosting, Sunday Show Preparations (1:56:12–1:58:20) The hosts discuss upcoming guest slots for the No Agenda Show, including Steve Jones (the "Clip Collector") and potentially Jennifer from the animated No Agenda films. They aim to introduce different voices and perspectives to the show's evolving format. There is a brief exchange about the "low testosterone" vibe of mainstream media compared to independent podcasting. Keywords: [steve jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-jones.md), clip collector, [jennifer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jennifer.md), [testosterone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/testosterone.md), [mainstream media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mainstream-media.md), podcast format [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Julian Epstein, Democratic Party Infighting and Bigotry (1:58:20–2:02:48) Julian Epstein, a former attorney for Bill and Hillary Clinton, criticizes mainstream media for failing to cover extremism and bigotry within the Democratic Party. He argues that critical race theory is being used to divide the country by race and that the party has embraced radical sectarian beliefs. The hosts discuss this as a "fracture" within the party that is being ignored by outlets like MSNBC and CNN. Keywords: julian epstein, [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [critical race theory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/critical-race-theory.md), [islamic extremism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/islamic-extremism.md), [bigotry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bigotry.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/34.md) ### 35. California High Speed Rail, Financial Crisis and Delays (2:02:48–2:05:08) The California High Speed Rail project faces a potential total loss of funding by December 2027, according to the state's Inspector General. The project is currently billions of dollars over budget and has only produced limited concrete structures in the Central Valley. The hosts contrast this failure with Japan's high-speed rail system, which was completed in the late 1950s. Keywords: [high speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [bakersfield](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bakersfield.md), [eminent domain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eminent-domain.md), [inspector general](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inspector-general.md), [japan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/japan.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1894-fever-concerns/chapter/35.md) ### 36. JCD Memorial Challenge Coin, Order of the Ant (2:05:09–2:06:05) Sir Paul Couture has designed a special memorial challenge coin to honor the late John C. Dvorak. The hosts plan to distribute these numbered coins to listeners who complete their knighthood. They also mention an "Order of the Ant" pin as a new recognition for the show's producers. 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