# Lunar Economy

> A new federal savings app and a $29 billion EPA funding clawback take center stage as the administration navigates lunar ambitions and a looming Ebola threat.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1872
- **Published:** 2026-05-28
- **Length:** 2h 54m
- **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host)
- **Topics:** [Lunar Economy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lunar-economy.md), Ebola Screenings, [Scott Besant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-besant.md), [Gas Tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gas-tax.md), [Ken Paxton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ken-paxton.md), Helium-3, [Strait of Hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy

## About this episode

Treasury Secretary Scott Besant faces intense scrutiny following a series of televised appearances intended to stabilize the administration's economic messaging. While Besant outlined a new federal savings program for children and addressed nuclear enrichment in Iran, critics within the media and the administration are already comparing his screen presence unfavorably to JD Vance. The tension comes as Donald Trump signals a potential federal gas tax holiday ahead of July 4th and asserts that the United States will maintain free navigation in the Strait of Hormuz, even at the risk of diplomatic friction with Oman.

Domestic policy shifts rapidly as the CDC and Acting Director Dr. Jay Bhattacharya mobilize airport screenings in Atlanta and Houston to combat a rising Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Simultaneously, the Trump administration reports the recovery of $29 billion in EPA funding previously allocated by the Biden-Harris administration, including a controversial $2 billion grant linked to Stacey Abrams. In the legal sphere, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton secures a major primary victory over John Cornyn, setting up a high-stakes November clash against James Tallarico, who has characterized the incumbent as the nation's most corrupt politician.

NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman has committed $20 billion toward a permanent lunar base by 2032, though the feasibility of a Helium-3 economy remains a point of contention. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the absurdity of Tai Chi walking advertisements and the decline of general knowledge among social media influencers. The broadcast concludes with a deep dive into the 1965 Dragnet prophecy regarding marijuana legalization and a musical tribute to the newly renovated Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/transcript.md.

### 1. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak, Tai Chi Walking Ads (0:00–2:23)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the broadcast from the Texas Hill Country and Refinery Row. They discuss the absurdity of "Tai Chi walking" advertisements appearing in social media feeds, which Curry avoids by paying for YouTube Premium. The conversation shifts to Donald Trump's rotation of spokespeople, noting that Treasury Secretary Scott Besant is filling in for Carolyn Leavitt on major news networks.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), tai chi walking, [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [scott besant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-besant.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Scott Besant Screen Test, JD Vance Comparison (2:24–4:33)

The hosts critique Scott Besant's performance during his televised appearances, comparing his "halting" style unfavorably to JD Vance's more pleasant and likable demeanor. They suggest Besant is failing his "screen test" for the administration's media rotation. Technical network issues briefly interrupt the discussion as they attempt to monitor the live quad-screen feed of various news networks.

Keywords: [scott besant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-besant.md), [jd vance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jd-vance.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [treasury secretary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasury-secretary.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Scott Besant on Iran, New Trump Savings App (4:33–8:13)

Treasury Secretary Scott Besant discusses Iran's nuclear enrichment and the necessity of free navigation in the Strait of Hormuz. He also introduces a new mobile app for "Trump accounts," an IRA-style savings vehicle for children born between 2025 and 2028. The program includes a $1,000 federal donation, though the hosts remain skeptical of Besant's presentation style despite his policy expertise.

Keywords: [scott besant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-besant.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), [trump accounts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-accounts.md), ira savings

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Ebola Media Cycles, AI Parody Song Limitations (8:13–10:33)

A retrospective medley highlights how the media has used Ebola to create public fear multiple times over the last 18 years. The discussion touches on how AI technology currently refuses to generate parody songs due to copyright and legal safeguards. This is contrasted with the "Weird Al" Yankovic era of creative, human-made musical satire.

Keywords: [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), parody songs, [media fear](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-fear.md), weird al yankovic

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/4.md)

### 5. WHO Ebola Emergency, World Cup Travel Concerns (10:34–13:51)

The World Health Organization declares a global health emergency as an Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo outpaces containment efforts. Travel restrictions are implemented at major U.S. airports in Atlanta, Washington D.C., and Houston. Officials express concern regarding the upcoming FIFA World Cup and the potential for the virus to spread via international travelers.

Keywords: [world health organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-health-organization.md), [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [democratic republic of congo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-republic-of-congo.md), [fifa world cup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fifa-world-cup.md), [travel restrictions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travel-restrictions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/5.md)

### 6. CDC Airport Screenings, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (13:54–16:23)

Acting CDC Director Dr. Jay Bhattacharya requests volunteers to bolster Ebola screening efforts at U.S. airports for passengers arriving from Central Africa. While aid workers in the Congo report being stretched thin, the CDC maintains that the risk of a domestic outbreak remains low. The timing of the media coverage is questioned in relation to the upcoming World Cup and political midterms.

Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [jay bhattacharya](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-bhattacharya.md), [ebola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ebola.md), [airport screening](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-screening.md), [world cup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-cup.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Interregnum Definition, Liberal World Order (16:24–19:28)

The hosts debate the meaning of the word "interregnum" after it is used to describe Donald Trump's presidency as a gap in the "Liberal World Order." Using the "Book of Knowledge" AI, they define the term as a period between successive reigns or regimes where normal government is suspended. They conclude that by definition, an interregnum implies the leader is not a king.

Keywords: interregnum, [liberal world order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liberal-world-order.md), [book of knowledge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/book-of-knowledge.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [vocabulary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vocabulary.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Dragnet 1965 Marijuana Prophecy, Predictive Programming (19:29–22:01)

A 1965 clip from the television show Dragnet features a dialogue where a character predicts that marijuana will eventually be packaged, taxed, and sold like liquor once younger generations enter the workforce. The hosts discuss this as a form of "predictive programming" and note how accurately the show's writers anticipated the future of drug policy and social morality.

Keywords: [dragnet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dragnet.md), [jack webb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jack-webb.md), [marijuana legalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana-legalization.md), [predictive programming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/predictive-programming.md), [television history](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television-history.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Teen Takeovers, Chicago Curfew Debates (22:01–26:25)

Law enforcement officials in Florida and Chicago address the "teen takeover" trend driven by social media, where large groups of juveniles gather to vandalize businesses. Polk County authorities threaten to arrest parents for their children's conduct. In Chicago, Police Superintendent Larry Snelling and local aldermen push for stricter curfews despite opposition from Mayor Brandon Johnson.

Keywords: teen takeovers, [polk county](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/polk-county.md), [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), [brandon johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brandon-johnson.md), larry snelling

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Parental Accountability, Historical Gang Rumbles (26:25–31:42)

Chicago officials propose charging parents of minors arrested during teen takeovers with contributing to the delinquency of a minor, a misdemeanor carrying potential jail time. The hosts compare modern "takeovers" to historical gang "rumbles" at the Alameda County Fair in the 1960s. They argue that while the behavior isn't new, social media has amplified the scale and visibility of these events.

Keywords: [parental liability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parental-liability.md), delinquency of a minor, [alameda county fair](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alameda-county-fair.md), gangs of new york, [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Young Washington Movie, French-Indian War History (31:42–35:16)

A review of the film "Young Washington" explores George Washington's early military career in colonial Virginia and his involvement in the Ohio Valley conflict against the French. The movie depicts Washington's struggle for respect within the British Army and his relationship with Native American tribes. The hosts discuss the violent nature of American history as portrayed in the film.

Keywords: [george washington](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-washington.md), young washington, [angel studios](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angel-studios.md), ohio valley, french-indian war

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Whatever Podcast, OnlyFans Model Trivia Failures (35:16–41:30)

The hosts review clips from the "Whatever" podcast, where the host asks OnlyFans models basic general knowledge questions. The models struggle to identify the capital of the United States, the number of states in the union, and the location of the Panama Canal. The segment highlights a perceived decline in basic education and historical literacy among younger generations.

Keywords: [whatever podcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whatever-podcast.md), [onlyfans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/onlyfans.md), [general knowledge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-knowledge.md), [trivia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trivia.md), [viral clips](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viral-clips.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Dutch Schooling Anecdote, 52 States Myth (41:32–44:21)

A personal anecdote describes a conflict with a Dutch schoolteacher in the 1970s who insisted the United States had 52 states. After calling the American embassy to confirm there were only 50, the student was kicked out of class for presenting the recorded evidence. This experience is cited as a formative moment in the development of a skeptical, independent media mindset.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md), american embassy, [podcasting origins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-origins.md), [geography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geography.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Trump Cabinet Meeting, Reflecting Pool Renovation (44:22–47:45)

During a televised cabinet meeting, Donald Trump discusses the renovation of the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool, detailing the removal of trash and the specific "American Flag Blue" paint used. He also addresses negotiations with Iran, stating he is not pressured by the upcoming midterm elections to reach a deal. The media's tendency to cut away from substantive policy reports is criticized.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [washington monument](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-monument.md), reflecting pool, [cabinet meeting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cabinet-meeting.md), [drug prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-prices.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Oman Threat Controversy, Strait of Hormuz (47:46–49:33)

Media outlets, including CNN's Anderson Cooper, report on Donald Trump's comment about "blowing up" Oman if they do not cooperate regarding the Strait of Hormuz. While Oman is a U.S. ally, Trump emphasizes that the strait must remain open as international waters. The State Department later posted the clip, suggesting the statement was an intentional diplomatic signal rather than a slip of the tongue.

Keywords: [oman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oman.md), [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), [anderson cooper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anderson-cooper.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), international waters

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Presidential Transparency, Media Reporting Habits (49:34–54:21)

The hosts discuss Trump's unique practice of allowing the press to film entire cabinet meetings, likening it to a corporate "Monday morning management meeting." They argue that journalists find these sessions boring and fail to report on the actual data presented, such as crime statistics and job growth, focusing instead on controversial soundbites.

Keywords: [white house press corps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house-press-corps.md), [transparency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transparency.md), cabinet meetings, [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), ceo style

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Drug Price Reductions, Fraud Task Force (54:22–57:50)

The Trump administration reports significant discounts on prescription drugs and the addition of 1,000 low-cost generics to the federal database. A fraud task force led by Todd Blanche claims to have uncovered billions in defrauded taxpayer money, including a suspicious $2 billion environmental grant involving Stacey Abrams that was subsequently canceled.

Keywords: [prescription drugs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prescription-drugs.md), [generics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/generics.md), fraud task force, [todd blanche](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/todd-blanche.md), [stacey abrams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stacey-abrams.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Tulsi Gabbard, Student Loan Fraud Investigation (57:50–1:00:19)

Outgoing Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard is thanked for her work on intelligence trust and findings related to Russia. The Department of Education reports uncovering massive student loan fraud involving non-existent individuals and illegal aliens. A host shares a personal story about government contract fraud in the Netherlands to illustrate the persistence of "the government teat."

Keywords: [tulsi gabbard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tulsi-gabbard.md), [department of education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-education.md), [student loans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/student-loans.md), [fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fraud.md), [national intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-intelligence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Lee Zeldin, EPA Funding Cancellations (1:00:20–1:03:16)

EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin reports the cancellation of $29 billion in funding that the previous administration attempted to "rush out the door" before the inauguration. This includes the controversial $2 billion allocated to an organization linked to Stacey Abrams. The hosts note that these significant financial recoveries are largely ignored by mainstream news outlets.

Keywords: [lee zeldin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lee-zeldin.md), [epa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epa.md), environmental fraud, [stacey abrams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stacey-abrams.md), [budget cuts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budget-cuts.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Third-Country National Agreements, Deportation Strategy (1:03:17–1:05:02)

Senator Marco Rubio details new agreements with 20 countries that allow the U.S. to deport illegal immigrants to safe third-party nations if they refuse to return to their country of origin. Rubio claims that when faced with being sent to countries like Nigeria or the Congo, many individuals suddenly choose to return to their home countries voluntarily.

Keywords: [marco rubio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marco-rubio.md), [deportation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deportation.md), third-country agreements, [immigration policy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration-policy.md), [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Venezuela Oil Production, Cuba's Gaesa Monopoly (1:05:03–1:08:28)

The U.S. reports that 10 million barrels of Venezuelan oil have been delivered since January, with proceeds held in a Treasury-monitored account audited by KPMG to benefit the Venezuelan people. Rubio also highlights "Gaesa," a military-controlled conglomerate in Cuba that dominates 70% of the island's economy, preventing wealth from reaching the general population.

Keywords: [venezuela](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/venezuela.md), [cuba](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cuba.md), gaesa, [oil production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-production.md), [kpmg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kpmg.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Alaska Oil Leases, China Energy Trade (1:08:29–1:10:59)

Interior Secretary Doug Burgum reports that oil lease sales on public lands, including the North Slope of Alaska, have generated $4 billion in revenue since January. This marks a significant increase over the previous administration's figures. Experts predict a growth in energy exports to China, particularly in liquefied natural gas (LNG) and crude oil.

Keywords: doug burgum, north slope, [alaska](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alaska.md), [lng](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lng.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Federal Gas Tax Holiday Proposal (1:10:59–1:13:47)

President Trump hints at a potential federal gas tax holiday ahead of the July 4th holiday to provide relief to consumers and truckers. The hosts discuss the 18.4 cent federal tax and contrast it with high state taxes in California, where specific environmental blends and refinery issues contribute to prices exceeding seven dollars per gallon.

Keywords: [gas tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gas-tax.md), [fourth of july](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fourth-of-july.md), [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [fuel prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fuel-prices.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Abraham Accords Expansion, Saudi Arabia Negotiations (1:13:47–1:16:10)

The administration is "requesting strongly" that Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Kuwait join the Abraham Accords. Trump suggests that these countries "owe it" to the U.S. to sign the historic peace agreements. The hosts reflect on the overall positive nature of the manufacturing and economic reports presented during the cabinet meeting, which they feel are obscured by negative media algorithms.

Keywords: [abraham accords](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abraham-accords.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [qatar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qatar.md), [jared kushner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jared-kushner.md), [middle east](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/middle-east.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Russian TikTok Psy-Ops, Pretty Girl Algorithms (1:16:11–1:20:12)

A discussion on social media algorithms notes a trend of "pretty Russian girls" and pro-Putin content appearing on TikTok and Instagram. The hosts speculate that this could be an intelligence agency "psy-op" designed to warm the American public to a new geopolitical nexus involving Russia, India, and China. They contrast the perceived intelligence of these Russian content creators with the "nitwits" seen on American podcasts.

Keywords: [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/putin.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [algorithms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithms.md), [psy-op](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psy-op.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/25.md)

### 26. NASA Artemis Moon Base, Mars Mission Goals (1:20:13–1:24:56)

NASA outlines a three-phase plan to establish a permanent moon base near the lunar South Pole by 2032, serving as a stepping stone for a future Mars mission. NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman discusses a $20 billion investment over seven years. The hosts express skepticism about the timeline and the "scientific and economic potential" cited by the agency.

Keywords: [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [artemis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artemis.md), [moon base](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon-base.md), [mars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mars.md), [jared isaacman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jared-isaacman.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Helium-3 Extraction, Lunar Economy Skepticism (1:24:57–1:28:22)

The "Book of Knowledge" defines Helium-3 as a potential fuel for future fusion reactors and a component in quantum computing. NASA officials suggest that extracting Helium-3 from the moon could spark a "lunar economy." The hosts remain doubtful, predicting that the Artemis missions will face significant delays or technical failures before achieving these goals.

Keywords: helium-3, [quantum computing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quantum-computing.md), [nuclear fusion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-fusion.md), [lunar economy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lunar-economy.md), [book of knowledge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/book-of-knowledge.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Orbital Economy, High-Speed Rail Comparison (1:28:22–1:31:38)

NASA's vision includes manufacturing rocket propellant on the moon and developing an "orbital economy." The hosts compare the $20 billion NASA budget to the $100 billion spent on California's high-speed rail project, which has yet to lay any track. They argue that while the space budget is large, it is relatively small compared to domestic infrastructure failures.

Keywords: orbital economy, propellant manufacturing, [california high-speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california-high-speed-rail.md), [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [space exploration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/space-exploration.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Ferrari Luce EV, Jony Ive Design (1:31:39–1:35:25)

Ferrari unveils the "Luce," its first all-electric vehicle, designed in collaboration with former Apple designer Jony Ive. The car features a body made partly of Corning glass and an electronic amplification system to mimic traditional engine sounds. Market analysts express concern that the $640,000 EV may "cheapen" the Ferrari brand, leading to a drop in share prices.

Keywords: ferrari luce, [jony ive](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jony-ive.md), [electric vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-vehicles.md), corning glass, engine sound

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Mayor Mamdani, Wall Street Backlash (1:35:27–1:38:37)

New York City Mayor Mamdani meets with banking executives, including JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, to address concerns over his "tax-the-rich" agenda. Dimon warns that socialist economic schemes are driving wealth and businesses out of New York to states like Texas. The hosts note that JPMorgan now has more employees in Texas than in New York.

Keywords: [jamie dimon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jamie-dimon.md), [jp morgan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jp-morgan.md), mayor mamdani, [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Pastor Manning, Anti-Mamdani Rant (1:38:38–1:40:58)

Pastor Manning of ATLA Ministries delivers a fiery, controversial rant against Mayor Mamdani, criticizing his religious background and the Democratic Party's influence on gender roles. The hosts discuss Manning's return to the media scene, noting that while his rhetoric is extreme, he remains a fixture in certain political commentary circles.

Keywords: [pastor manning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pastor-manning.md), mayor mamdani, [democrat party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democrat-party.md), [religious rhetoric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/religious-rhetoric.md), [political commentary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-commentary.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Sydney Drone Show Mishap, Security Risks (1:40:58–1:41:46)

A drone light show in Sydney, Australia, suffers a malfunction where 90 drones plunge into the water due to an "unforeseen change in radio frequency." The hosts predict that such displays are vulnerable to hackers who could potentially take control of the drones to attack crowds, turning entertainment into a security threat.

Keywords: drone show, [sydney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sydney.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [hacking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hacking.md), [radio frequency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radio-frequency.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Ken Paxton, Texas Senate Primary Victory (1:41:46–1:44:10)

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton defeats incumbent Senator John Cornyn in a high-spending Republican primary runoff. Despite past indictments and impeachment proceedings, Paxton secured the nomination with Donald Trump's backing. He will face Democratic nominee James Tallarico, a state representative and seminary graduate, in the November general election.

Keywords: [ken paxton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ken-paxton.md), [john cornyn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-cornyn.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [republican primary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican-primary.md), [james tallarico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-tallarico.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/33.md)

### 34. James Tallarico, Corruption Allegations Against Paxton (1:44:11–1:48:02)

Democratic nominee James Tallarico attacks Ken Paxton as "the most corrupt politician in America," citing his impeachment by his own party. The hosts discuss Tallarico's progressive religious views, including his description of God as "non-binary." They also debate Paxton's standing within the Christian right and his influence as a "player" in Trump's inner circle.

Keywords: [james tallarico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-tallarico.md), [ken paxton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ken-paxton.md), [corruption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corruption.md), non-binary god, [texas politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas-politics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Joe Rogan, Trump IRS Settlement Context (1:48:03–1:52:00)

The hosts debunk media reports claiming Joe Rogan turned against Donald Trump over a "thug fund." They clarify that Rogan was actually discussing a legal settlement where the IRS is barred from auditing Trump's *past* tax filings due to previous illegal leaks. They criticize the media for taking Rogan's comments out of context to suggest Trump is immune from all future audits.

Keywords: [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [irs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irs.md), [tax returns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-returns.md), [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Candace Owens, Hunter Biden Interview (1:52:01–1:56:20)

Candace Owens and Hunter Biden discuss theories regarding the validity of assassination attempts against Donald Trump. The conversation touches on skepticism surrounding Erica Kirk's reaction to her husband's death. The hosts analyze the market for "conspiratorial" thinking and how algorithms feed this content to "non-playing characters" (NPCs) in the digital space.

Keywords: [candace owens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/candace-owens.md), [hunter biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hunter-biden.md), assassination attempts, [erica kirk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erica-kirk.md), psy-ops

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Financial Security, Boomer vs. Gen X Labels (1:56:21–1:57:47)

The hosts respond to listener feedback regarding their "financial security" and "boomerism." One host clarifies that despite being "boomer adjacent," they identify more with Generation X. They emphasize that their "financial security" is a result of constant work, including broadcasting on holidays and Sundays, rather than passive wealth.

Keywords: [financial security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/financial-security.md), [boomer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boomer.md), [gen x](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gen-x.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [work ethic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/work-ethic.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Kars 4 Kids, California Advertising Ban (1:57:47–2:01:04)

A California judge bans "Kars 4 Kids" advertisements in the state, ruling that the charity misled donors about where their money went. The lawsuit revealed that funds primarily supported a New Jersey-based Jewish organization rather than "needy children" in California. The hosts discuss the effectiveness of the "earworm" jingle despite the controversy.

Keywords: kars 4 kids, [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [false advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/false-advertising.md), jewish organization, [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Value for Value, Modern Podcast Apps (2:01:05–2:04:23)

The hosts explain the "Value for Value" model, where listeners contribute time, talent, or treasure in exchange for the show's content. they promote the use of modern podcast apps via PodcastApps.com, which support features like "podping" for instant live notifications and faster episode updates compared to legacy platforms.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [podcastapps.com](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcastapps-com.md), [live streaming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-streaming.md), [podping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podping.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Overcast App, Transcript Accuracy Issues (2:04:23–2:08:03)

The hosts criticize the Overcast podcast app and its developer, Marco Arment, for not supporting the open standards of the Podcast Index. They highlight the poor quality of Apple-generated transcripts used by Overcast, which misidentified the hosts as "Craig Bond and Boss Kill," and urge developers to use the high-quality transcripts provided in their RSS feed.

Keywords: [overcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/overcast.md), [marco arment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marco-arment.md), [podcast index](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-index.md), [transcripts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transcripts.md), open ecosystem

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Boots on the Ground, Flavored Vapes CDC Resignation (2:08:04–2:10:39)

"Boots on the ground" reports suggest that a high-ranking CDC official resigned because Donald Trump forced the approval of flavored vapes. Other listener feedback covers the use of kratom and the "government teat." The hosts emphasize the importance of these field reports in providing information not covered by mainstream media.

Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [flavored vapes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flavored-vapes.md), [boots on the ground](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boots-on-the-ground.md), [kratom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kratom.md), [lobbying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lobbying.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/41.md)

### 42. No Agenda Art, Drop.io Data Loss (2:10:41–2:12:48)

The hosts discuss the history of the No Agenda Art Generator and the importance of self-hosting content after losing data when Drop.io was sold to Facebook. They praise "Blue Acorn" for a traditional Memorial Day piece and "Nessworks" for an elaborate Photoshop creation, encouraging producers to continue submitting high-quality artwork.

Keywords: [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), [drop.io](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drop-io.md), [blue acorn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blue-acorn.md), [photoshop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/photoshop.md), [digital preservation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-preservation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Executive Producer Credits, Order of the Heart (2:12:51–2:16:03)

The show acknowledges high-tier donors, including Sir Switcheroo, who contributed $1,002 to join the "Order of the Heart" as a Red Knight. The hosts discuss the "Hollywood credits" given to producers and address listener feedback about their on-air dynamic, with some fans calling for more "buzzkill" energy from Dvorak.

Keywords: [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [red knight](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-knight.md), [order of the heart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/order-of-the-heart.md), sir switcheroo, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Instagram Lockout, No Agenda Social Media (2:16:06–2:20:12)

Adam Curry describes being locked out of his personal Instagram account due to a "device recognition" loop, preventing him from promoting the new official No Agenda podcast Instagram page. The hosts lament the "Silicon Valley model" of automated support that leaves users stranded, comparing it to similar issues with Google and Twitter.

Keywords: [instagram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/instagram.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), account lockout, [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [technical support](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technical-support.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Knighting Ceremony, F-Cancer Karma (2:20:13–2:23:32)

The hosts conduct a knighthood ceremony for Timothy, who is undergoing treatment for Richter's transformation lymphoma. They also grant "wedding karma" to Jorge Hernandez and his bride-to-be, Savannah. The segment emphasizes the personal connection between the hosts and the "Gitmo Nation" listener community.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [lymphoma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lymphoma.md), [wedding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wedding.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Manuka Gold, Pain Relief Testimonial (2:23:33–2:25:05)

Adam Curry shares a personal testimonial for Manuka Gold relief gel, noting it quickly resolved a severe neck pain issue after a flight. He suggests product development ideas, such as smaller travel-sized containers, and thanks Dennis Cadle for providing the product to the No Agenda community.

Keywords: [manuka gold](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manuka-gold.md), [honey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/honey.md), [pain relief](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pain-relief.md), neck pain, product development

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Pool Guy Austin, Family Health History (2:25:05–2:28:20)

"Austin the Pool Guy" contributes to the show, leading to a discussion about family histories of heart bypass surgery. Dvorak reflects on his own recovery and the differences between private insurance and Medicare. Austin also celebrates his daughter Marley's high school graduation and requests "baby making karma" for the community.

Keywords: [bypass surgery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bypass-surgery.md), [medicare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicare.md), high school graduation, stay chlorinated, family crest

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Tip of the Day Corrections, Resume Services (2:28:20–2:30:43)

Dvorak issues a correction for a previous "Tip of the Day," clarifying that the recommended Badia seasoning must be the "no added salt" version. Linda Lou Patkin, the "Duchess of Jobs," is thanked for her support and her professional resume writing services at ImageMakersInc.com.

Keywords: badia, salt-free, [linda lou patkin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linda-lou-patkin.md), [resumes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/resumes.md), [coffee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coffee.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Producer Credits, Palindrome Donations (2:30:45–2:34:20)

The hosts read through a list of producers who contributed $50 or more, noting several "palindrome" donations and creative amounts. They reiterate that every penny counts toward keeping the show independent and ad-free, thanking the "Gitmo Nation" for their continued support.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [palindromes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palindromes.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/49.md)

### 50. No Agenda Shop, Sir Vincent Title Change (2:34:20–2:37:39)

Sir Vincent is elevated to the rank of Earl of the Rocket City. The hosts also promote the No Agenda Shop's sticker club, encouraging listeners to place stickers on laptops and other public spaces to spread awareness of the show. They clarify the specific titles and regions associated with the new knighthoods.

Keywords: [no agenda shop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-shop.md), [stickers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stickers.md), sir vincent, [title change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/title-change.md), [order of the heart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/order-of-the-heart.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Meetup Reports, Squim Washington Gathering (2:37:39–2:41:25)

A detailed meetup report from Squim, Washington, features several listeners and a mention of "TooManyEggs.com." The hosts announce upcoming meetups in Anchorage, Raleigh, Boise, and an international gathering in Ukraine. They emphasize that No Agenda meetups are free to organize and open to all "knights, dames, and douchebags."

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), squim, [washington](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington.md), [anchorage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anchorage.md), [raleigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raleigh.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/51.md)

### 52. Jordan Peterson and Morgan Freeman ISOs (2:41:27–2:43:54)

The hosts present two new "In Search Of" (ISO) audio clips featuring AI-generated or impersonated voices of Jordan Peterson and Morgan Freeman. While the Peterson clip encourages young men to listen to the show, the Freeman clip is criticized for being too generic. They decide to use the Peterson clip for future promotions.

Keywords: [jordan peterson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jordan-peterson.md), [morgan freeman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/morgan-freeman.md), [iso](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iso.md), [voice acting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voice-acting.md), [podcast promotion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-promotion.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/52.md)

### 53. Tip of the Day, Freeze-Dried Blueberries (2:43:55–2:46:36)

John C. Dvorak's "Tip of the Day" recommends freeze-dried blueberries as a superior snack due to their crunchy texture and high antioxidant value. He suggests purchasing them from Trader Joe's or Amazon, noting they are low in sodium and sugar compared to other processed snacks.

Keywords: freeze-dried blueberries, [trader joe's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trader-joe-s.md), [antioxidants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antioxidants.md), [snacks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/snacks.md), [nutrition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nutrition.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/53.md)

### 54. Outro, Trump Reflecting Pool Mix (2:46:37–2:54:10)

The show concludes with a musical "end of show mix" by MVP and Just Baker, featuring Donald Trump's detailed description of the Washington Monument reflecting pool renovation. The hosts sign off with their traditional catchphrases, "Adios Mofos" and "Hoooey Hoooey," and remind listeners to return for the Sunday broadcast.

Keywords: [end of show mix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/end-of-show-mix.md), reflecting pool, american flag blue, [adios mofos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adios-mofos.md), hoooey hoooey

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1872-lunar-economy/chapter/54.md)

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