# Nut Spread > A high-stakes nuclear standoff meets a domestic labor overhaul as the administration leverages maritime insurance and stablecoins to reshape Middle Eastern trade routes. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 1858 - **Published:** 2026-04-09 - **Length:** 2h 36m - **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host) - **Topics:** Hormuz Blockade, H-2A Visas, Pump Head, Stablecoin Gaza, [Cesar Chavez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cesar-chavez.md), Mythos AI - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread ## About this episode Donald Trump issued a two-week ultimatum to Tehran, threatening the total destruction of Iranian civilization unless the Strait of Hormuz is immediately reopened to global oil traffic. The announcement triggered immediate internal fractures within the Republican party and prompted Alex Jones to call for the invocation of the 25th Amendment to remove the president. While major networks report imminent catastrophe, direct accounts from Tehran suggest local infrastructure remains stable despite the escalating rhetoric from the White House. British Prime Minister Keir Starmer traveled to Saudi Arabia to secure UK energy interests as maritime insurance premiums for the region spiked from $2 million to $150 million per vessel. In Washington, Markwayne Mullin faced a Senate confirmation hearing for DHS Secretary, committing to judicial warrants for ICE raids amid a massive overhaul of the H-2A guest worker program. Simultaneously, the Trump administration is reportedly coordinating with Scott Bessent and Jared Kushner to implement a geofenced stablecoin system for Gaza reconstruction, ensuring future oil trades remain dollar-denominated despite Iranian bank failures. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the deplatforming of labor icon Cesar Chavez following allegations from 95-year-old activist Dolores Huerta. The duo explores the rise of AI-generated slop in podcast indexes and the medical reality of post-perfusion syndrome, colloquially known as pump head, following major surgery. The episode concludes with a formal knighting ceremony for the Order of the Heart and a critique of the Artemis 2 crew using Nutella for lunar far-side advertising. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/transcript.md. ### 1. Episode 1858 Introduction, AI Robot Status (0:00–2:49) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1858 of the No Agenda show from their respective locations in Texas and California. Curry announces he has fixed the show's AI robot, which is now functional and capable of rapid speech. The hosts briefly discuss the high volume of news cycles occurring between broadcasts and the possibility of emergency episodes. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [refinery row](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/refinery-row.md), [texas hill country](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas-hill-country.md), ai robot, episode 1858 [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Donald Trump, Iran Ceasefire Negotiations, Media Coverage (2:50–13:06) President Donald Trump announced a two-week suspension of planned attacks on Iran contingent on the immediate opening of the Strait of Hormuz. Major news networks ABC, NBC, and CBS reported on the "double-sided ceasefire" following Trump's social media threats that an entire civilization might die. The reports highlight internal Republican divisions, with some senators supporting the pressure while others, including Ron Johnson, expressed concern over targeting civilian infrastructure. Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), [ceasefire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ceasefire.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Iran Internal Conditions, Fariba Family Update (13:07–14:32) A personal update from a contact with family in Iran suggests that despite international reports of war and destruction, daily life in Tehran remains relatively stable. The report indicates that supermarkets are open, food is plentiful, and civilian infrastructure has not sustained the damage suggested by Western media. This perspective contrasts with the "civilization will die" narrative prevalent in recent news cycles. Keywords: [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [tehran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tehran.md), fariba, molas, civilian infrastructure, [food supply](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-supply.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Alex Jones, 25th Amendment Calls, Trump Mental Health (14:33–17:57) Alex Jones and other media figures reacted strongly to Donald Trump's rhetoric regarding Iran, with Jones calling for the invocation of the 25th Amendment to remove the president. Jones characterized Trump's behavior as "real madness" rather than a strategic act, suggesting an internal coup might be necessary to prevent an extinction-level event. The discussion notes that the 25th Amendment process is legally more difficult than impeachment, requiring support from the Vice President and Cabinet. Keywords: [alex jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-jones.md), [25th amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/25th-amendment.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [impeachment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impeachment.md), [infowars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infowars.md), [coup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coup.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, Trump Negotiation Tactics (17:57–22:17) Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson expressed disgust over Donald Trump's social media threats to wipe out Iranian civilization. Kelly criticized the "3D chess" defense of Trump's behavior, labeling his language irresponsible and demeaning to the United States. The hosts compare Trump's aggressive negotiation style to historical figures like Genghis Khan, noting that such threats tap into deep-seated Iranian cultural fears of total destruction. Keywords: [megyn kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/megyn-kelly.md), [tucker carson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carson.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), genghis khan, [war crimes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war-crimes.md), [truth social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/truth-social.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Genghis Khan, Persian History, Bad Negotiators (22:18–25:45) A historical analysis of Persian diplomacy suggests a long-standing pattern of poor negotiation, dating back to the killing of Genghis Khan's envoys in 1215. This historical context explains the cultural trauma of being "wiped out" that Donald Trump utilized in his recent threats against Iran. The hosts discuss how these historical precedents influence modern Iranian responses to international pressure and trade deals. Keywords: genghis khan, persia, [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), tamerlane, [negotiation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/negotiation.md), [newsletter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletter.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Strait of Hormuz, Israel Involvement, Oil Prices (25:45–30:08) CNN and other outlets report conflicting details regarding the Iran ceasefire, specifically whether Israel is a party to the agreement. While Vice President J.D. Vance suggested Israel might "check themselves" in Lebanon to support U.S. negotiations, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu maintained that Israel's finger remains on the trigger. Discrepancies remain regarding whether the Strait of Hormuz is truly open to oil tanker traffic and the specific points of the 10-point Iranian proposal. Keywords: [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [benjamin netanyahu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benjamin-netanyahu.md), [jd vance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jd-vance.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [oil tankers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-tankers.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Keir Starmer, UK Involvement, Saudi Arabia Visit (30:08–31:34) British Prime Minister Keir Starmer visited Saudi Arabia to coordinate international actions following the Iran ceasefire. Starmer emphasized the importance of making the truce permanent and reopening the Strait of Hormuz for UK interests. The hosts criticize Starmer's involvement as opportunistic, noting that the UK previously refused to allow the use of its bases for strikes against Iran. Keywords: [keir starmer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keir-starmer.md), [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), british navy, [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Mark Rutte, NATO Relations, Article 5 Credibility (31:34–39:28) NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte met with Donald Trump to address the president's frustrations regarding European contributions to the Iran conflict. While Rutte praised the logistical support provided by many allies, White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt stated that Trump believes NATO "failed" its test. The discussion covers European fears regarding the weakening of Article 5 and the potential for Trump to invoke Article 13 to leave the alliance. Keywords: [mark rutte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-rutte.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [article 5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/article-5.md), [article 13](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/article-13.md), [caroline leavitt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/caroline-leavitt.md), [greenland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greenland.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Gaza Reconstruction, Stablecoins, Scott Bessent Strategy (39:29–45:50) The Trump administration is reportedly planning a "rubbilization" and reconstruction strategy for Gaza, managed by the World Bank and special envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner. A key component of this plan involves the implementation of a geofenced stablecoin monetary system to ensure oil continues to be traded in dollars. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is credited with a "maximum pressure" strategy that created a dollar shortage in Iran, leading to bank failures and currency collapse. Keywords: [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md), [world bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-bank.md), [stablecoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stablecoin.md), [scott bessent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-bessent.md), [petrodollar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/petrodollar.md), [treasury](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasury.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Maritime Insurance, Shipping Blockades, Lloyd's of London (45:51–48:51) The effective closure of the Strait of Hormuz was driven by insurance paperwork rather than military mines or blockades. Seven insurance companies filed paperwork that spiked rates from $2 million to $150 million per ship, halting one-fifth of the world's energy supply. In response, the DFC announced a reinsurance plan with Chubb as the lead underwriter to guarantee up to $20 billion in losses and resume shipping flow. Keywords: [maritime insurance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maritime-insurance.md), chubb, [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), [shipping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shipping.md), ben black [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/11.md) ### 12. General Petraeus, World Liberty Financial, UAE AI Chips (48:52–53:24) General David Petraeus questioned whether the current ceasefire might leave Iran in a stronger strategic position if they successfully implement tolls on the Strait of Hormuz. Meanwhile, reports indicate the Trump family's crypto company, World Liberty Financial, received a $500 million investment from a UAE state fund. Following this deal, the administration approved the sale of advanced AI chips to the UAE, raising concerns about conflicts of interest and technology smuggling to China. Keywords: [david petraeus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-petraeus.md), [world liberty financial](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-liberty-financial.md), [uae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uae.md), [ai chips](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-chips.md), [howard lutnick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howard-lutnick.md), [tether](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tether.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Lebanon Air Strikes, Benjamin Netanyahu Objectives (53:26–56:38) Israel launched intensive air strikes on over 100 targets in Lebanon, asserting that the ceasefire with Iran does not apply to Hezbollah. The Lebanese Health Minister reported hundreds of casualties, and the Red Cross deployed dozens of ambulances in Beirut. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated that Israel will achieve its objectives through either agreement or a resumption of fighting, keeping military forces on high alert. Keywords: [lebanon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lebanon.md), [beirut](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beirut.md), [hezbollah](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hezbollah.md), [benjamin netanyahu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benjamin-netanyahu.md), [red cross](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-cross.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/13.md) ### 14. US Military Operations, F-15 Shootdown, Iranian Arsenal (56:38–58:50) U.S. officials confirmed that offensive operations in Iran have ceased immediately following President Trump's announcement. Despite 13,000 strikes over five weeks, reports indicate that half of Iran's ballistic missile launchers and thousands of attack drones remain intact in underground stockpiles. The resilience of the Iranian military was demonstrated by the recent shootdown of a U.S. F-15 fighter jet using a shoulder-fired heat-seeking missile. Keywords: [f-15](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-15.md), [ballistic missiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ballistic-missiles.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [us military](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/us-military.md), [search and rescue](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/search-and-rescue.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Cesar Chavez, Dolores Huerta Rape Allegations, Deplatforming (58:51–1:05:19) Labor icon Cesar Chavez is facing widespread deplatforming following sexual assault allegations made by 95-year-old activist Dolores Huerta. California Governor Gavin Newsom and Texas Governor Greg Abbott have both responded by distancing their states from Chavez, with Abbott directing the removal of Cesar Chavez Day from state law. The United Farm Workers (UFW) and the city of Los Angeles have also canceled planned celebrations in light of the "widely acknowledged" allegations. Keywords: [cesar chavez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cesar-chavez.md), [dolores huerta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dolores-huerta.md), [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [greg abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-abbott.md), united farm workers [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Markwayne Mullin, DHS Confirmation, Kristi Noem Exit (1:05:19–1:08:36) Markwayne Mullin faced a Senate confirmation hearing to replace Kristi Noem as Secretary of Homeland Security. Mullin addressed past controversial statements regarding DHS shootings and expressed regret for disparaging victims before investigations were complete. The leadership change is viewed as a strategic pivot by the Trump administration away from the aggressive optics associated with Noem's tenure. Keywords: markwayne mullin, [kristi noem](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kristi-noem.md), [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [confirmation hearing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/confirmation-hearing.md), [stephen miller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-miller.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/16.md) ### 17. ICE Raids, Judicial Warrants, Farm Labor Shortages (1:08:37–1:11:59) During his confirmation testimony, Markwayne Mullin committed to requiring judicial warrants for ICE agents entering homes and places of business, including farms. Senator Chuck Grassley questioned whether mass legalization for undocumented farm workers would solve labor shortages, with experts testifying that legal status alone does not create new workers. The discussion centers on the tension between mass deportation plans and the agricultural industry's dependence on immigrant labor. Keywords: [ice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ice.md), [search warrants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/search-warrants.md), [farm labor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/farm-labor.md), [chuck grassley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-grassley.md), [agriculture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agriculture.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/17.md) ### 18. H-2A Visa Program, Wage Calculation, UFW Lawsuit (1:11:59–1:19:10) The Trump administration is consolidating the H-2A guest worker program under the Labor Department to streamline seasonal hiring for farmers and hotel operators. A new interim rule changes how wages are calculated, potentially lowering farm worker pay by several dollars per hour to save employers an estimated $24 billion over ten years. Simultaneously, the administration is suing the United Farm Workers (UFW) over wage disputes, a move obscured by the recent focus on Cesar Chavez's personal reputation. Keywords: h-2a visa, [department of labor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-labor.md), united farm workers, agricultural wages, guest workers [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Agricultural Economics, Stablecoin Remittances, Food Inflation (1:19:10–1:22:54) The revamped H-2A program allows workers to remain in the U.S. legally without access to Social Security or Medicaid, with the expectation that they use stablecoins for remittances. Proponents argue this system will combat food inflation and help American farms compete with rising food imports. The hosts suggest this "traditional Republican" approach provides cheap labor for the farming and hospitality sectors while empowering local farmers to "vouch" for their workers. Keywords: [social security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-security.md), [medicaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicaid.md), [stablecoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stablecoin.md), [inflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inflation.md), food imports [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/19.md) ### 20. California High-Speed Rail, Cost Overruns, Eminent Domain (1:22:56–1:25:44) California's high-speed rail project is now projected to cost $126 billion, more than triple the original $33 billion estimate approved by voters in 2008. The earliest projected opening has been pushed to 2033, with the Trump administration recently pulling $4 million in federal funding. One of the hosts shares a personal account of being displaced from a San Francisco apartment via eminent domain for a station that remains unfinished and surrounded by homeless encampments. Keywords: [high-speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [60 minutes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/60-minutes.md), [eminent domain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eminent-domain.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Tipping Culture, California Service Standards, Toast Data (1:25:44–1:27:09) Data from the tech platform Toast reveals that California is the worst tipping state in the U.S., with an average tip of 17.2%. In contrast, Delaware residents top the list by tipping over 21% on average. The hosts discuss the evolution of tipping standards from 15% to 20% and express frustration with modern digital payment screens that prompt for tips on simple retail transactions. Keywords: [tipping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tipping.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [delaware](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delaware.md), [toast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toast.md), [service industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/service-industry.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/21.md) ### 22. AI Legal Hallucinations, Court Sanctions, Ethics Training (1:27:10–1:33:18) Lawyers are increasingly facing disciplinary action for filing legal briefs containing fictitious quotes and citations generated by AI. NPR reports on a Nebraska Supreme Court case where an attorney was grilled for using "hallucinated" case law. Legal scholars have documented over 1,200 instances of courts catching erroneous AI material, leading some jurisdictions to require lawyers to label all AI-assisted documents. Keywords: [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), legal briefs, [hallucinations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hallucinations.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [ethics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ethics.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/22.md) ### 23. AI Bot Proliferation, Podcast Index Slop, OpenAI Lawsuit (1:33:18–1:38:24) The proliferation of AI-generated "slop" is breaking the internet, with bots auto-submitting hundreds of fake podcasts per hour to major indexes. This phenomenon is compared to a DNS attack on digital content platforms, making it difficult for users to find authentic human-made media. Additionally, OpenAI is facing a lawsuit from an insurance company alleging the AI practiced law without a license by providing bad legal advice to a claimant. Keywords: [bots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bots.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [open ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-ai.md), [chatgpt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chatgpt.md), dns attack [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Sam Altman, ChatGPT Naming, AI Liars (1:38:24–1:42:38) The hosts discuss allegations that OpenAI CEO Sam Altman is a "pathological liar," citing an anecdote about him falsely claiming to be a world-champion ping pong player. A recorded interaction with ChatGPT demonstrates the bot's tendency to "lie" or provide circular logic when questioned about the non-existent "S" in its name. The segment concludes that AI bots are programmed to be helpful and agreeable rather than factually accurate. Keywords: [sam altman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-altman.md), [chatgpt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chatgpt.md), ping pong, [pathological liar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pathological-liar.md), [anthropic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthropic.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Anthropic, Mythos AI Model, Effective Altruism (1:42:39–1:48:01) Anthropic is restricting public access to its new "Mythos" AI model, claiming it is too powerful and poses cyber security risks. The model is being rolled out to a select group of partners, including Apple and Microsoft, to help identify high-severity vulnerabilities. The company's leadership and investors are heavily tied to the "Effective Altruism" movement, which prioritizes long-term societal risk management over immediate profit, leading to a legal battle with the Pentagon over supply chain designations. Keywords: [anthropic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthropic.md), mythos, [effective altruism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/effective-altruism.md), [dario amodei](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dario-amodei.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Artemis 2 Moon Mission, Nutella Ad, Van Allen Belts (1:48:01–1:50:20) The Artemis 2 crew beamed back images of the Earth and Moon during their journey around the lunar far side. A viral moment involving a floating jar of Nutella was characterized as "the best free ad ever" for the spread. The hosts express skepticism regarding the mission's technical details, specifically the lack of visible flags in lunar photos and the short communication delay compared to the Nixon-era Apollo calls. Keywords: [artemis 2](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artemis-2.md), [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [moon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon.md), [nutella](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nutella.md), [van allen belts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/van-allen-belts.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Megyn Kelly Career Critique, Podcast Standards, FCC (1:50:20–1:52:37) The hosts critique Megyn Kelly's career trajectory, suggesting she peaked at Fox News before a failed transition to NBC led her to independent podcasting. They argue that her increased use of profanity has diminished her professional standing, comparing it to Howard Stern's move to SiriusXM. The discussion emphasizes that excessive cussing in podcasting often indicates poor language skills and sets a bad standard for the medium. Keywords: [megyn kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/megyn-kelly.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [howard stern](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howard-stern.md), [profanity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/profanity.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Midas Touch Network, Soros Investment, Podcast Chart Manipulation (1:52:39–1:55:11) The Midas Touch Network reportedly received a significant investment from Soros Fund Management as part of a broader effort to build a liberal audio empire. The hosts explain how the network manipulates podcast charts by releasing multiple short segments per day to inflate download numbers. This strategy mirrors the acquisition of Crooked Media and other "Trump-hating" outlets by Soros-linked funds. Keywords: [midas touch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/midas-touch.md), [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md), podcast charts, [crooked media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crooked-media.md), [downloads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/downloads.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1858-nut-spread/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Medical Recovery, Post-Perfusion Syndrome, Pump Head (1:55:11–2:00:27) One of the hosts provides an update on his recovery from open-heart surgery, including a procedure to remove several pounds of fluid from his lungs. Listeners who are anesthesiologists have reached out regarding his experience of waking up during surgery. The discussion introduces the term "pump head" (post-perfusion syndrome), a real medical condition involving cognitive decline and memory issues following the use of a heart-bypass machine. 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