# CIS Lunar

> A new lunar race intensifies as NASA pushes into cislunar space while the Trump administration deploys B-52 bombers to break an Iranian blockade in the Strait of Hormuz.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1856
- **Published:** 2026-04-02
- **Length:** 2h 40m
- **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host)
- **Topics:** Cislunar Space, Hormuz Blockade, [Artemis 2](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artemis-2.md), [Claude Code](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/claude-code.md), NATO Fractures, [Lunar Economy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lunar-economy.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar

## About this episode

NASA launched four astronauts from Kennedy Space Center aboard the Artemis 2 mission, signaling a strategic pivot toward a permanent presence in cislunar space. NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman and Dean Chang of the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies highlight the urgency of this mission as China targets a manned moon landing by December 2030. This renewed space race focuses on securing a lunar economy and establishing American technological superiority over Beijing.

President Donald Trump threatened strikes on Iranian civilian infrastructure following a blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, while U.S. B-52 bombers deployed 2,000-pound bunker-busters against an ammunition facility in Isfahan. Secretary Pete Hegseth declared the conflict has entered a decisive phase as the U.S. searches for 600 pounds of enriched uranium dust. Simultaneously, Senator Marco Rubio and Mark Rutte are navigating a fractured NATO alliance where key members like France and Turkey have restricted U.S. military basing rights.

In a bizarre turn of events, Senator Lindsey Graham faced social media scrutiny after being photographed at Disneyland with a Princess Ariel bubble wand. The episode also tracks the recovery of a host from heart surgery, including a harrowing hospital experience involving a collapsed lung and a strict no-water policy. John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry also examine the satirical Gays of Hormuz man-on-the-street segment.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/transcript.md.

### 1. NASA Artemis 2 Moon Mission, Cislunar Space Terminology (0:00–9:23)

NASA's Artemis 2 mission launched four astronauts from Kennedy Space Center, marking a significant step in the renewed space race to establish a lunar base. NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman emphasizes a shift toward a monthly launch cadence and repeatable missions to "cislunar space," a term describing the area between Earth and the Moon. The mission serves as a strategic signal of American technological superiority to geopolitical rivals, specifically China.

Keywords: [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [artemis 2](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artemis-2.md), cislunar space, [jared isaacman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jared-isaacman.md), [moon base](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon-base.md), [space race](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/space-race.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/1.md)

### 2. China Lunar Ambitions, 2030 Moon Landing Goal (9:25–11:03)

China is aggressively pursuing a manned moon landing with a target date of December 31, 2030. Dean Chang of the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies suggests that China will move "heaven and earth" to ensure Chinese boots leave an impression on the lunar surface. This persistence poses a direct challenge to U.S. dominance in space travel and the future language of lunar operations.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [moon landing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon-landing.md), dean chang, potomac institute, lunar surface, space travel

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/2.md)

### 3. New Lunar Economy, US-China Space Competition (11:05–13:58)

The current push for the Moon is framed as a competition for a "lunar economy" rather than just a race to land. While the 1960s race was against Russia, modern lawmakers view China's deep space ambitions as a primary national security concern. NASA aims to establish a permanent base to secure economic and strategic interests before China can leapfrog American capabilities.

Keywords: [lunar economy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lunar-economy.md), [space race](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/space-race.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [national security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-security.md), [moon base](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon-base.md), [spacex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spacex.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Easter Sunday Determination, Hebrew Calendar and Equinox (14:00–16:29)

The calculation of Easter Sunday is discussed in relation to its shifting dates on the Gregorian calendar. The date is determined by the first Sunday following the Paschal full moon, which occurs on or after the vernal equinox. This method links the holiday to both the lunar cycle and historical Hebrew calendar traditions.

Keywords: [easter sunday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/easter-sunday.md), hebrew calendar, vernal equinox, paschal full moon, lunar cycle

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Donald Trump Iran Policy, Strait of Hormuz Blockade (16:29–18:56)

President Donald Trump has urged U.S. allies to take responsibility for policing the Strait of Hormuz following an Iranian blockade that caused global oil prices to surge. Trump threatened to target Iranian civilian infrastructure, including power plants and water systems, if the waterway is not reopened. Additionally, the administration is monitoring Russian oil shipments to Cuba, with Trump suggesting the island nation is "gone" regarding U.S. influence.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), [oil prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-prices.md), mohammad ghalibaf, [cuba](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cuba.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/5.md)

### 6. US Military Strikes in Isfahan, B-52 Bomber Deployment (18:56–20:41)

U.S. forces conducted airstrikes on an ammunition storage facility in Isfahan, Iran, utilizing 2,000-pound bunker-busting bombs. Secretary Pete Hegseth announced that the conflict has entered a "decisive phase" as B-52 bombers fly deep into Iranian territory. Meanwhile, the search continues for American journalist Shelly Kittleson, who was reportedly kidnapped by an Iran-backed militia in Baghdad.

Keywords: isfahan, b-52 bombers, [pete hegseth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pete-hegseth.md), uss george hw bush, shelly kittleson, [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Iran Regime Change Claims, Uranium Enrichment Stockpiles (20:41–24:21)

President Trump claims that a "regime change" has effectively occurred in Iran due to the deaths of original leaders, though he maintains his primary goal remains the prevention of nuclear weapons. U.S. strategy involves striking Iranian bridges and infrastructure to force a deal while searching for 600 pounds of enriched uranium "dust." There is a stated intention to withdraw U.S. forces within weeks once specific military objectives are met.

Keywords: [regime change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/regime-change.md), [uranium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uranium.md), [mossad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mossad.md), [nuclear weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-weapons.md), bridges, [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Iranian Internal Politics, IRGC Military Coup Theory (24:21–26:33)

Reports from the Middle East suggest the Iranian regime may have already collapsed internally, with the IRGC potentially operating a "puppet" leadership. While some regional voices advocate for a "chemotherapy" approach of continuous strikes to ensure total collapse, others believe the removal of sanctions could lead to a grassroots revolution fueled by social media platforms like Instagram and TikTok. Pakistan and China are currently positioned as potential mediators in the negotiation process.

Keywords: [irgc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/irgc.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [sanctions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanctions.md), [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [instagram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/instagram.md), [pakistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pakistan.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/8.md)

### 9. NATO Skepticism, US Withdrawal Threats (26:34–28:45)

President Trump has ramped up rhetoric regarding a potential U.S. withdrawal from NATO, criticizing the alliance for failing to assist in the Iran conflict. The tension centers on the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, which has disrupted a fifth of the world's oil and gas supply. While Trump views NATO as a "paper tiger," British leadership maintains they will act only in their own national interest.

Keywords: [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), [the telegraph](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-telegraph.md), [oil prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-prices.md), [uk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uk.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Mark Rutte, 22-Nation Coalition for Hormuz (28:45–31:30)

Mark Rutte announced a coalition of 22 nations, including non-NATO members like Japan, South Korea, and Australia, to secure the Strait of Hormuz. However, several key NATO members, including Turkey, Greece, and Hungary, are not participating. Furthermore, France, Italy, and Spain have restricted U.S. military access to their airspace and bases during the current operations against Iran.

Keywords: [mark rutte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-rutte.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), [uae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uae.md), [bahrain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bahrain.md), [coalition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coalition.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Marco Rubio, NATO Basing Rights Critique (31:31–33:05)

Senator Marco Rubio questioned the continued value of the NATO alliance, describing it as a "one-way street" where the U.S. defends Europe but is denied basing rights for its own national security interests. Rubio suggested that once the current conflict concludes, the U.S. must re-examine its relationship with allies that refuse overflight rights and base usage during American military operations.

Keywords: [marco rubio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marco-rubio.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [military bases](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-bases.md), [europe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/europe.md), [national security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-security.md), overflight

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Trump National Broadcast, Historical War Comparisons (33:06–35:40)

In a recent national broadcast, President Trump compared the duration of the current Iran conflict to historical wars like World War I and World War II. Critics argue these comparisons inadvertently suggest a long-term commitment, despite Trump's stated desire to exit the region quickly. Senator John Kennedy has also pushed for a swift withdrawal, arguing that primary objectives have already been achieved.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [world war i](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-i.md), [world war ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-ii.md), [korean war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/korean-war.md), [john kennedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kennedy.md), political implications

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Marco Rubio Podcast, Iranian Conventional Shield (35:42–38:54)

Senator Marco Rubio released a scripted explanation regarding the necessity of attacking Iran to prevent the completion of a "conventional shield." He argued that Iran was using a massive buildup of drones and missiles to protect its underground nuclear facilities from future intervention. Rubio asserted that a regime led by radical clerics with an "apocalyptic vision" cannot be allowed to possess nuclear weapons.

Keywords: [marco rubio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marco-rubio.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [nuclear program](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-program.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [missiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/missiles.md), shia clerics

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Strait of Hormuz Tolls, UK Diplomatic Talks (38:54–40:39)

Iran's National Security Committee approved a bill to impose transit fees on ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz, citing self-defense and inspection costs. International shippers remain skeptical, as paying such tolls could violate existing sanctions. Meanwhile, Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Anita Anand joined talks in the UK to seek diplomatic solutions for reopening the trade corridor.

Keywords: [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), anita anand, [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [uk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uk.md), [maritime law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maritime-law.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Air Canada CEO, Quebec Language Controversy (40:41–44:04)

Air Canada CEO Michael Rousseau is facing calls for resignation after delivering a condolence message regarding a fatal crash at LaGuardia Airport almost entirely in English. The crash killed pilot Antoine Fauré, a francophone from Quebec, sparking outrage in the province over Rousseau's lack of French proficiency. Rousseau has been summoned to Ottawa to testify before the official languages committee.

Keywords: [air canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-canada.md), michael rousseau, [quebec](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quebec.md), [laguardia airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/laguardia-airport.md), [french language](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/french-language.md), official languages act

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Canadian Public Safety Bills, Social Media Critique (44:04–47:15)

A viral social media commentary highlights the rejection of several public safety bills in Canada, including measures targeting sexual predators and repeat offenders. The critique contrasts Canada's rising violent crime, collapsing healthcare system, and housing unaffordability with the "dystopian" image of America often presented in Canadian media. The speaker urges Canadians to acknowledge domestic failures rather than focusing on U.S. politics.

Keywords: [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), bill c-246, bill c-220, [violent crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/violent-crime.md), [healthcare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/16.md)

### 17. NDP Convention, Gender Equity Cards (47:16–50:36)

The New Democratic Party (NDP) convention in Canada featured a controversial "equity card" system designed to prioritize speakers based on their level of perceived privilege. Delegates used yellow and red cards to move ahead in the speaking line, leading to internal disputes over the "speaking order" and the value of identity-based participation. One delegate expressed frustration that her "gender equity card" was ignored by the moderator.

Keywords: [ndp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ndp.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), equity cards, gender equity, [identity politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/identity-politics.md), [ontario](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ontario.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/17.md)

### 18. No Kings Day, Gays of Hormuz Satire (50:36–53:03)

A satirical "man on the street" interview at a "No Kings Day" protest featured a comedian asking participants about the "Gays of Hormuz." The segment mocked the focus on the Strait of Hormuz by suggesting the waterway be turned into a "Fire Island" style destination. The interviewees, seemingly unaware of the satire, agreed that the "Gays of Hormuz" have been historically discriminated against in war.

Keywords: [no kings day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-kings-day.md), [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), [satire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satire.md), fire island, [lgbtq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbtq.md), [man on the street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/man-on-the-street.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Politics as Religion, Trump Derangement Syndrome (53:04–56:50)

Mental health professionals are observing a rise in "grievance culture," where individuals are so hyper-focused on national politics that they cannot enjoy their personal lives. This phenomenon, often termed "Trump Derangement Syndrome," has led to persistent protests in places like Dripping Springs, Texas, and Berkeley, California. Analysts suggest that for many Americans, national politics has replaced traditional religion as a primary source of identity and conflict.

Keywords: [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), grievance culture, [dripping springs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dripping-springs.md), [berkeley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berkeley.md), national religion

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Lindsey Graham, Disneyland Bubble Wand Controversy (56:50–59:10)

Senator Lindsey Graham drew social media attention after being photographed at Disneyland carrying a "Princess Ariel" bubble wand. Critics and media outlets like TMZ questioned the image, noting Graham was visiting the park without children. Graham later attempted to counter the "un-butch" image by posting photos of himself shooting clay pigeons in South Carolina.

Keywords: [lindsey graham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lindsey-graham.md), [disneyland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disneyland.md), ariel bubble wand, [south carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-carolina.md), [young turks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/young-turks.md), [tmz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tmz.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Brian Noem, Bimbofication Fetish Allegations (59:10–1:01:23)

Leaked photographs purportedly showing Brian Noem, husband of former DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, involved in a "bimbofication" fetish community have surfaced. The Daily Mail reported on messages and images of Noem wearing oversized prosthetic breasts and feminine clothing. National security experts warn that such scandalous material could have made the Noem family vulnerable to blackmail by hostile intelligence services.

Keywords: brian noem, [kristi noem](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kristi-noem.md), [daily mail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-mail.md), [fetish](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fetish.md), [blackmail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackmail.md), [national security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-security.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Kristi Noem, Corey Lewandowski Affair Allegations (1:01:25–1:04:07)

Kristi Noem has faced questioning regarding an alleged affair with political operative Corey Lewandowski. During recent testimony, Noem refused to answer questions about her personal life, dismissing the reports as "tabloid gossip." The controversy comes amid broader speculation about the political futures of various Trump-aligned figures, including Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance.

Keywords: [kristi noem](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kristi-noem.md), [corey lewandowski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corey-lewandowski.md), tabloid, [gossip](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gossip.md), [marco rubio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marco-rubio.md), [jd vance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jd-vance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Host Health Update, Hospital Recovery Experience (1:04:08–1:05:56)

One of the hosts provides an update on their recovery following major heart surgery, noting a recent complication involving a collapsed lung. The recovery process has been marked by sleep deprivation and a strict "no water" policy in the hospital, which has affected their vocal performance. Despite the setbacks, the host reports improvements in stamina and a return to broadcasting.

Keywords: [heart surgery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heart-surgery.md), hospital food, collapsed lung, [medicare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicare.md), [recovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recovery.md), [stamina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stamina.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Hospital Food Mandate, Dr. Oz and HHS (1:05:57–1:10:47)

The Department of Health and Human Services, alongside Dr. Oz, announced a new health and safety notice requiring hospitals to align their food purchases with federal dietary guidelines. Eligibility for Medicare and Medicaid payments will now be tied to these nutritional standards. While officials claim hospitals welcome the mandate to improve procurement, skeptics argue that institutional apathy and existing contracts with companies like Sysco will hinder real change.

Keywords: [dr. oz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-oz.md), [hhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hhs.md), [medicare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicare.md), [medicaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicaid.md), hospital food, [dietary guidelines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dietary-guidelines.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Charlie Kirk, Assassination Case Evidence (1:10:48–1:13:31)

A new court filing in the alleged assassination attempt of Charlie Kirk reveals that the bullet recovered does not match the gun investigators seized. Prosecutors still maintain they have DNA evidence linking suspect Tyler Robinson to the September shooting at Utah Valley University. Legal experts note that matching shattered bullets from autopsies is often difficult, leading to skepticism about the ballistics evidence.

Keywords: [charlie kirk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-kirk.md), [tyler robinson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tyler-robinson.md), utah valley university, [ballistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ballistics.md), jessica levinson, [candace owens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/candace-owens.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Anthropic Claude Code, Source Code Leak (1:13:32–1:17:10)

AI startup Anthropic accidentally leaked the entire source code for "Claude Code" via an npm release at 4:00 AM. The leak occurred because source maps were not stripped during the build process, which utilized the recently acquired Bunjs runtime. The leaked code revealed hidden features, including a "Tamagotchi-style" companion called Buddy and references to upcoming models like Opus 4.7 and Capybara.

Keywords: [anthropic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthropic.md), [claude code](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/claude-code.md), [source code](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/source-code.md), bunjs, npm, [ai agents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-agents.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Mercor AI Hack, Chinese Model Development (1:17:11–1:19:50)

The AI training company Mercor reportedly suffered a massive hack, resulting in the release of proprietary data and expert training methods. There are concerns that Chinese entities will utilize this data to create compressed, highly efficient AI models. Meanwhile, individual users are increasingly running AI models locally on hardware like Raspberry Pis to avoid commercial subscriptions like 11 Labs.

Keywords: mercor, [ai training](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-training.md), [open source](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-source.md), [11 labs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/11-labs.md), [raspberry pi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raspberry-pi.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Oracle Mass Layoffs, AI Infrastructure Shift (1:19:50–1:22:53)

Oracle has begun laying off thousands of employees globally, with reports suggesting up to 30,000 jobs could be cut to fund the company's aggressive expansion into AI data centers. The layoffs have heavily impacted operations in India, where entire teams were reportedly terminated via email without prior notice. Analysts suggest the move is a strategy to free up approximately $10 billion in cash to service debt and invest in AI hardware.

Keywords: [oracle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oracle.md), [layoffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/layoffs.md), [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), ai infrastructure, debt market, [tech industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tech-industry.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Kid Rock, Army Apache Helicopter Flyby (1:22:54–1:27:45)

Four U.S. Army pilots were briefly suspended after performing a low-level flyby over Kid Rock's Nashville home, where the singer was seen waving and saluting. Secretary Pete Hegseth quickly intervened to lift the suspensions, calling the pilots "patriots." The incident sparked a debate over the use of military resources for personal displays, with some comparing it to informal "flybys" performed by pilots for friends in other contexts.

Keywords: [kid rock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kid-rock.md), [apache helicopters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apache-helicopters.md), [us army](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/us-army.md), [pete hegseth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pete-hegseth.md), [nashville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nashville.md), flyby

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/29.md)

### 30. White House Ballroom, Military Bunker Construction (1:27:46–1:31:08)

A federal court issued a stop-work order on President Trump's $400 million White House ballroom project, citing a lack of congressional approval. The project, which involved the controversial destruction of the East Wing, reportedly includes a massive underground military complex. While the administration has appealed the ruling, construction continues on "safety" related aspects of the site.

Keywords: [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), ballroom, military complex, [federal court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-court.md), [east wing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/east-wing.md), [bunker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bunker.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Paradise TV Series, Underground Bunker Cities (1:31:10–1:32:47)

The Hulu series "Paradise" depicts a world where Silicon Valley billionaires live in a massive underground city in Colorado following a global volcanic eruption and nuclear war. The show explores the divide between the "insiders" living in a simulated Truman Show-style environment and the survivors on the surface. The concept mirrors real-world speculation about elite survival bunkers.

Keywords: paradise, [hulu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hulu.md), [bunkers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bunkers.md), [colorado](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [billionaires](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/billionaires.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Matt Gaetz, Alien Hybrid Breeding Claims (1:32:47–1:35:16)

Representative Matt Gaetz claimed that a uniformed member of the U.S. Army briefed him on "hybrid breeding programs" involving captured aliens and humans. Gaetz also referenced the testimony of whistleblower David Grush regarding "non-human biologics" recovered from crashed craft. Skeptics point out that Grush has a history in the film industry, leading to questions about the validity of the claims.

Keywords: [matt gaetz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-gaetz.md), [david grush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-grush.md), [aliens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aliens.md), biologics, [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), hybrid breeding

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Steven Spielberg, Disclosure Movie and Crop Circles (1:35:16–1:38:31)

Director Steven Spielberg is reportedly working on a new film titled "Disclosure," following a year of increased public interest in UFOs and "Age of Disclosure" documentaries. The project has revived interest in classic paranormal phenomena like crop circles. A trailer for the film has sparked online discussion, including bizarre theories about the physical appearance of actors in the footage.

Keywords: [steven spielberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steven-spielberg.md), [disclosure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disclosure.md), [crop circles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crop-circles.md), [aliens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aliens.md), age of disclosure, vax injury

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Peter Duke, Spielberg and Pentagon Ties (1:38:32–1:43:04)

Former Hollywood showrunner Peter Duke claimed on the Ripple Effect podcast that Steven Spielberg has long worked in coordination with the Pentagon. Duke, who worked at the Shoah Foundation, noted Spielberg's specific rules regarding titles, such as forbidding the term "Creative Director" because he believes creativity is a gift from God. Duke suggests Spielberg's film projects are often "dictated" as part of broader social engineering efforts.

Keywords: peter duke, [steven spielberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steven-spielberg.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [social engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-engineering.md), shoah foundation, creative director

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Amblin Entertainment, Studio Social Engineering (1:43:05–1:47:09)

A story from the Universal Studios backlot describes how Steven Spielberg would dictate nine annual projects to his staff at Amblin Entertainment after meeting with unnamed "read-in" officials. This top-down approach to filmmaking is framed as a method for social engineering and propaganda. The segment also speculates that OpenAI's "Sora" video technology was restricted to prevent the public from creating their own high-level propaganda movies.

Keywords: amblin entertainment, lew wasserman, [universal studios](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/universal-studios.md), [sora](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sora.md), [openai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/openai.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/35.md)

### 36. US-Iran Meme War, AI Propaganda Videos (1:47:10–1:50:41)

The White House and the Iranian regime are engaged in an online "war of memes," using AI-generated content and edited movie clips to troll each other. The U.S. has posted videos combining airstrike footage with Spongebob Squarepants, while Iran has produced animations depicting Western leaders as Lego figures. These deepfake videos and AI memes are blurring the lines between real military events and digital propaganda.

Keywords: [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [memes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/memes.md), [ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [spongebob squarepants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spongebob-squarepants.md), [deepfakes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deepfakes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/36.md)

### 37. DARPA Social Network Experiments, AI Bot Campaigns (1:50:42–1:55:01)

Historical claims suggest DARPA experimented with social networks as early as the CompuServe era to study human manipulation. Modern researchers warn that networks of "AI agents" can now coordinate disinformation campaigns that are much harder to detect than traditional bots. These agents can simulate real conversations and plan strategies together to shift public opinion during elections.

Keywords: [darpa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darpa.md), steve pachinik, [ai agents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-agents.md), [disinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disinformation.md), x, [bots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bots.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/37.md)

### 38. No Agenda Show, Value-for-Value Model (1:55:02–1:59:16)

The No Agenda Show continues to operate on a "value-for-value" model, eschewing traditional advertising and subscriptions. Listeners are encouraged to use modern "Podcasting 2.0" apps like Podverse and PodFriend to receive live notifications and interact with the show. The hosts emphasize that there is no "bonus content" behind a paywall, as all information is provided freely to the public.

Keywords: [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [podverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podverse.md), [podfriend](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podfriend.md), boardroom, [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Producer Contributions, Episode Artwork and Health (1:59:17–2:04:29)

The show's production relies on "time, talent, and treasure" from its audience, including clip collection by Steve Jones and AI-generated episode artwork. One host discusses the physical challenges of recovering from a heart attack, including the necessity of using a walker to prevent falls that could reopen the sternum. The community's artistic contributions, such as "totem pole" themed art, are highlighted as a key part of the show's identity.

Keywords: clip collector, [steve jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-jones.md), [ai art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-art.md), [heart attack](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heart-attack.md), walker, [recovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recovery.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Little John's Candies, Post Office Media Mail Dispute (2:04:30–2:07:01)

A shipment of "Little John's Candies" and "Gigawatt Coffee" was received, though one host is currently restricted from consuming them due to health reasons. A separate delivery of "artisan pool water" sent via "Media Mail" caused a confrontation at the post office, as the USPS clerk identified the shipment as a violation of the discounted rate. The hosts urge listeners not to "rip off" the post office when sending items.

Keywords: [little john's candies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/little-john-s-candies.md), [gigawatt coffee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gigawatt-coffee.md), media mail, [usps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usps.md), pool water, [tina the keeper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tina-the-keeper.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Executive Producer Donations, Dame Lindsay Knighting (2:07:03–2:12:22)

The show acknowledges high-level donors, including "Sir Anonymous" and "Dame Lindsay of the House Hunters." Lindsay Carson, a realtor from Northwest Georgia, was knighted for her $1,000 contribution. Donors shared personal stories of overcoming loss and the role the podcast played in their lives during the COVID-19 pandemic and homeschooling journeys.

Keywords: [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), lindsay carson, [georgia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/georgia.md), [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Associate Executive Producers, Birthday Tributes (2:12:23–2:19:02)

Multiple Associate Executive Producers were recognized for their financial support, including "Sir Nobody" who promoted a film Kickstarter and "James Powers." The segment included numerous birthday wishes for one of the hosts, whose 74th birthday coincides with Easter Sunday. Various businesses, such as Martel Hardware and La Jolla Salt Corporation, were also mentioned through producer notes.

Keywords: [kickstarter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kickstarter.md), missouri breaks, martel hardware, [la jolla salt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/la-jolla-salt.md), [gigawatt coffee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gigawatt-coffee.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Global Donor Roll, F-Cancer Prayer (2:19:03–2:24:19)

Donations arrived from a global audience, including listeners in the Netherlands, the UK, and Denmark. A special "F-Cancer" prayer was requested for a producer's mother entering hospice in Copenhagen. The show concluded its financial segment by reminding listeners that they can contribute via Bitcoin, Circle stablecoin, or traditional methods at the show's donation website.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [copenhagen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copenhagen.md), [hospice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hospice.md), [f-cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-cancer.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [stablecoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stablecoin.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Peerage Upgrades, Countess Tanya of New York (2:24:24–2:27:40)

Dame Tanya Wyman was elevated to the rank of "Countess of New York City" following her continued high-level support. The hosts explained the process for new knights and dames to receive their official rings and certificates of authenticity. A late donation from "Sir E61 Black Sheep" was also acknowledged, featuring a note about upcoming military deployment to Kuwait.

Keywords: countess, [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [tanya wyman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tanya-wyman.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [rings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rings.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/44.md)

### 45. No Agenda Meetups, Global Event Schedule (2:27:42–2:30:44)

The No Agenda community has a robust schedule of upcoming meetups in locations such as Osaka, Japan; Eagle, Idaho; and Fredericksburg, Texas. These events are described as essential for building "protection" and connections among listeners. A full list of international meetups, including gatherings in the Netherlands and Germany, is available at the dedicated meetup website.

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [osaka](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/osaka.md), [idaho](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/idaho.md), [fredericksburg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fredericksburg.md), [leipzig](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leipzig.md), [indiana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indiana.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/45.md)

### 46. John's Tip of the Day, Moroccan Olive Oil (2:30:45–2:35:54)

The "Tip of the Day" focuses on the health benefits of Moroccan olive oil, specifically the "Atlas" brand, which is high in heart-healthy polyphenols. The host reveals they are in the final stages of completing the "Dvorak Family Cookbook," which will incorporate a previously planned book on vinegar. The cookbook aims to promote the idea that "the family that cooks together stays together."

Keywords: [olive oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/olive-oil.md), [morocco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/morocco.md), polyphenols, atlas, [cookbook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cookbook.md), polyphenols

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/46.md)

### 47. End of Show Mix, Darren O'Neill Yodeling (2:35:55–2:40:08)

The episode concludes with a custom "End of Show Mix" by Darren O'Neill, featuring yodeling-style jingles and a recap of the show's themes. The hosts sign off with their trademark catchphrases, celebrating the return of the recovering host. The mix incorporates various "ISOs" and audio clips from the episode's discussions on China, space, and global politics.

Keywords: [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md), yodeling, [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), [end of show mix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/end-of-show-mix.md), [adios mofos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adios-mofos.md), [podcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1856-cis-lunar/chapter/47.md)

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