# Jell-No!

> A surprise return from John C. Dvorak anchors a deep dive into Middle East oil wars, California hospice fraud, and the sudden downfall of a labor icon.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1852
- **Published:** 2026-03-19
- **Length:** 2h 44m
- **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host)
- **Topics:** Pearl Harbor joke, Hospice fraud, [Cesar Chavez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cesar-chavez.md), South Pars, Joe Kent, [Tucker Carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [Stablecoins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stablecoins.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no

## About this episode

President Donald Trump sparked international debate after joking about Pearl Harbor during a meeting with Japanese journalists regarding the escalating conflict with Iran. Trump defended his decision to withhold military plans from allies, emphasizing that strategic success requires absolute secrecy. Meanwhile, the administration faces internal friction as Joe Kent resigned from the National Counterterrorism Center, citing an inability to support the current war effort, while Tucker Carlson alleges the CIA is preparing a criminal referral against him for his communications with Iranian contacts.

Geopolitical tensions reached a breaking point as Israel allegedly struck the South Pars gas field, prompting a stern warning from Trump on Truth Social regarding the protection of Qatari LNG facilities. In California, a New York Times investigation into farm labor icon Cesar Chavez has surfaced sexual assault allegations, leading to the rapid removal of his name from public spaces. Simultaneously, YouTuber Nick Shirley exposed a massive hospice fraud scheme in Los Angeles involving the Armenian mob and stolen Medicare data. The episode also details the history of the 1953 CIA coup in Iran and the influence of the Scofield Reference Bible on modern American foreign policy.

John C. Dvorak makes a surprise return to the airwaves to provide an update on his heart surgery recovery and mock the realism of his own AI voice clone. Mimi Smith Dvorak shares a 1968 encounter with Jim Morrison at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel and offers a practical solution for aging pets with her endorsement of the cleaning product My Pet Peed. Adam Curry reflects on his MTV VJ days and the perks of being recognized from the Joe Rogan Experience.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/transcript.md.

### 1. Washington State Weather, Mimi Smith Dvorak Introduction (0:00–2:14)

Adam Curry introduces Mimi Smith Dvorak as the guest co-host for Episode 1852, broadcasting from the Texas Hill Country. Mimi describes the current weather conditions in Washington State, noting high humidity and an incoming storm system from Hawaii. The discussion touches on the melting snow and potential flooding in the Pacific Northwest.

Keywords: [mimi smith dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mimi-smith-dvorak.md), [washington state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-state.md), [texas hill country](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas-hill-country.md), [weather](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather.md), [humidity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/humidity.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/1.md)

### 2. John C. Dvorak Hospital Update, AI Voice Clone Prank (2:15–4:35)

Adam Curry recounts phone calls from John C. Dvorak during his recovery from heart surgery. Dvorak attempted to test his remote recording setup, the "nook," leading to typical technical difficulties involving webcams and speakers. Adam plays an AI-generated voice clone of Dvorak complaining about hospital food and sponge baths to demonstrate the realism of modern voice synthesis.

Keywords: [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [hospital](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hospital.md), [ai voice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-voice.md), nook, [technical difficulties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technical-difficulties.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Mimi Smith Dvorak Real Name, Political Background (4:35–7:21)

Mimi Smith Dvorak reveals her legal name is Merrilee Diane, a name she disliked and replaced with the nickname Mimi as a child. She explains using her legal name during a run for City Council to avoid sounding like other members with nicknames. Adam mentions that while most listeners appreciate her filling in, some critics on Twitter have been dismissive of the temporary format change.

Keywords: merrily diane, [mimi smith dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mimi-smith-dvorak.md), [city council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-council.md), sequim, [port angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/port-angeles.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Donald Trump, Japanese Journalists, Pearl Harbor Joke (7:22–9:56)

President Donald Trump met with Japanese journalists to discuss the ongoing conflict with Iran. When asked why the United States did not notify allies like Japan before initiating military action, Trump joked about the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. He emphasized that military strategy requires secrecy and surprise to be effective.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [japan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/japan.md), [pearl harbor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pearl-harbor.md), [iran war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran-war.md), surprise attack

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/4.md)

### 5. NATO Relations, Donald Trump, Ukraine Funding Criticism (9:57–13:17)

President Donald Trump criticized NATO allies for failing to support the United States in the Iran conflict despite receiving trillions in American protection over the years. Trump asserted his authority to withdraw from NATO without Congressional approval, though he stated he has no current plans to do so. He further criticized the Biden administration for providing hundreds of billions of dollars in equipment to Ukraine.

Keywords: [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [military spending](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-spending.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Middle East Allies, Oil Protection, US Navy (13:17–14:34)

The United States received strong support for its Middle Eastern operations from Qatar, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Bahrain. Adam Curry argues that the US Navy's protection of global shipping lanes is essential for maintaining domestic gas supplies and the technology industry. Israel is highlighted as a primary partner in the regional military effort.

Keywords: [qatar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qatar.md), [uae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uae.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [bahrain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bahrain.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Iran Nuclear Deal, Obama Administration Cash Shipments (14:35–16:51)

President Donald Trump revisited the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, claiming the Obama administration sent Boeing 757s loaded with hundreds of millions of dollars in cash to Tehran. Trump characterized these payments as ransom and claimed the cash was stripped from banks in Virginia, Maryland, and D.C. He contrasted this with his own "decimation" of the Iranian regime's resources.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [iran nuclear deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran-nuclear-deal.md), [boeing 757](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-757.md), [cash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cash.md), [ransom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ransom.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Global News Toronto, Trump Foreign Policy Critique (16:52–19:37)

A report from Global News Toronto features correspondent Eric Sorensen criticizing Donald Trump's "strategically incoherent" approach to the Iran war. The segment highlights resistance from French President Emmanuel Macron regarding the Strait of Hormuz and notes that international allies have little appetite to assist the U.S. Experts warn that Iran's geography allows it to protract the conflict using unsophisticated weapons.

Keywords: eric sorensen, [global news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-news.md), [emmanuel macron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emmanuel-macron.md), [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Anglo-Persian Oil History, CIA 1953 Coup (19:37–22:51)

The discussion traces the history of Iranian conflict back to 1906 and Winston Churchill's transition of the British Navy to oil. The hosts detail the 1953 CIA and MI6 coup against Mohammad Mosaddegh after he attempted to nationalize Iranian oil. They argue that the current conflict is a continuation of a century-long struggle over oil prices and maritime control rather than religious or ideological differences.

Keywords: anglo-persian oil company, [bp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bp.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [mi6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mi6.md), mohammad mosaddegh

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Joe Kent Resignation, National Counterterrorism Center, FBI Investigation (22:51–25:17)

Joe Kent resigned as Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, citing his inability to support the conflict with Iran. President Trump dismissed Kent as "weak on security" following his departure. Reports from Semaphore indicate that Kent is currently under FBI investigation for allegedly leaking classified information prior to his resignation.

Keywords: joe kent, [nctc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nctc.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [semaphore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/semaphore.md), classified leaks

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Tucker Carlson, CIA Criminal Referral, Foreign Agent Act (25:17–27:05)

Tucker Carlson claimed the CIA is preparing a criminal referral against him for allegedly acting as a foreign agent due to his communications with people in Iran. Carlson denied the allegations, asserting his loyalty to the United States. The hosts speculate on a connection between Carlson's situation and the investigation into Joe Kent.

Keywords: [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [doj](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/doj.md), [fara](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fara.md), [tulsi gabbard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tulsi-gabbard.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Pastor Dumisani Washington, Israel Church Division (27:06–29:01)

Pastor Dumisani Washington, founder of the Institute for Black Solidarity with Israel, criticized Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens for creating a rift within the Christian church regarding support for Israel. Washington argued that Carlson's platforming of figures like Nick Fuentes is dangerous. The discussion centers on how the Israel-Palestine conflict is dividing different Christian denominations.

Keywords: dumisani washington, ibsi, [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [charlie kirk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-kirk.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Scofield Reference Bible, Dispensationalism, Christian Zionism (29:02–32:51)

Adam Curry explores the "Scofield Bible" conspiracy theory, which suggests that 20th-century editorial changes influenced American Christians to support the state of Israel. The discussion contrasts "Replacement Theology" with "Dispensationalism," the belief that the 1948 establishment of Israel fulfilled biblical prophecy. Figures like Mike Johnson and Paula White are cited as proponents of this eschatological view.

Keywords: scofield bible, dispensationalism, replacement theology, constantine, [eschatology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eschatology.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Covenant Theology, Tucker Carlson Christian Misunderstandings (32:52–34:27)

Adam Curry describes "Covenant Theology" as a middle ground where Gentiles are grafted into the Jewish people without requiring specific political borders. He argues that Tucker Carlson misunderstood the migration of Christians from Palestine as "ethnic cleansing." The segment suggests Carlson lacks the religious background to accurately interpret these theological and geopolitical shifts.

Keywords: covenant theology, [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [palestine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palestine.md), [ethnic cleansing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ethnic-cleansing.md), gentiles

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Tucker Carlson Demon Attack, Spiritual Warfare (34:27–38:36)

In a documentary clip, Tucker Carlson describes being physically mauled by an unseen spiritual entity while sleeping in his bed. He claims the attack left physical claw marks on his ribcage and shoulder that were still visible a year later. Carlson states this experience led him to read the Bible intensely, though he remains skeptical of established Christian pastors.

Keywords: [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), demon, spiritual attack, [bible](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bible.md), episcopal

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Balfour Declaration, British Imperialism, Joe Kent Interview (38:37–41:11)

The hosts discuss the British Empire's role in creating modern Middle Eastern borders through the Balfour Declaration and the Sykes-Picot Agreement. They argue that the establishment of Israel was a strategic move to protect British waterways and oil interests. Joe Kent appeared on Tucker Carlson's show to claim that the Israeli lobby pressured the U.S. into the current war with Iran.

Keywords: balfour declaration, sykes-picot, [british empire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/british-empire.md), joe kent, [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Marco Rubio, UN Section 51, Israel Preemptive Strike (41:11–44:42)

Secretary of State Marco Rubio explained that the U.S. launched preemptive strikes against Iran to protect American forces from expected retaliation following an Israeli action. The U.S. filed paperwork with the United Nations under Section 51 to justify these actions as self-defense. Critics like Joe Kent argue this proves Israel is driving American foreign policy in the region.

Keywords: [marco rubio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marco-rubio.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), section 51, [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Neoconservative Censorship, Charlie Kirk Murder, British Influence (44:43–48:28)

Tucker Carlson warns that neoconservatives are using the war in Iran to justify censoring and imprisoning domestic critics. Adam Curry posits that Carlson may be an agent for British interests, specifically the City of London, aimed at dividing the American conservative movement. Curry links these geopolitical tensions to the murder of Charlie Kirk and the resulting schism in the right wing.

Keywords: [neoconservatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neoconservatives.md), [charlie kirk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-kirk.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [city of london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-of-london.md), [mi6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mi6.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Roseanne Barr, British Royal Family, Global Banking (48:29–53:00)

Roseanne Barr appeared on Tim Pool's podcast to claim the British Royal Family and the City of London are the true powers behind global conflicts and money laundering. She cited Prince Andrew's connection to Jeffrey Epstein as evidence of systemic corruption. The discussion explores the theory that thirteen royal families control central banks and international financial policy through the Bank for International Settlements.

Keywords: [roseanne barr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roseanne-barr.md), [tim pool](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-pool.md), [prince andrew](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prince-andrew.md), [jeffrey epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-epstein.md), [city of london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-of-london.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Merchants of Grain, Global Food Control, Trump Wealth (53:00–55:33)

Mimi Smith Dvorak recommends the book "The Merchants of Grain," which details how five secretive families control the world's food supply and can trigger famines. The hosts discuss how Donald Trump's background in real estate allowed him to interact with these ultra-wealthy tiers of power. They argue Trump's perspective is unique because he understands the "poor rich" versus those who control global commodities.

Keywords: merchants of grain, [cargill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cargill.md), dreyfus, [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [wealth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wealth.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Nina Brink, World Online IPO, Rothschild Sycophancy (55:33–58:45)

Adam Curry shares an anecdote about Dutch businesswoman Nina Brink and the failed World Online IPO. He describes Brink's sycophantic reaction to the potential involvement of the Rothschild family in her business. The story serves as an illustration of how even very wealthy individuals are often awed by the historical power of established banking dynasties.

Keywords: [nina brink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nina-brink.md), world online, [rothschild](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rothschild.md), [ipo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipo.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Stablecoins, World Reserve Currency, Human War Instinct (58:46–1:00:34)

The discussion shifts to the necessity of transitioning the monetary system to stablecoins backed by U.S. Treasuries to maintain the dollar's status as the world reserve currency. Adam Curry and Mimi Smith Dvorak reflect on the nature of humanity as a "warring species," suggesting that conflict is an inherent part of human culture and tribalism.

Keywords: [stablecoins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stablecoins.md), world reserve currency, [treasuries](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasuries.md), [warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/warfare.md), [anthropology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthropology.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Mojtaba Khamenei, Iranian Supreme Leader, Gay Allegations (1:00:34–1:03:05)

The New York Post reported on U.S. intelligence claims that the new Iranian Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, is gay. The report suggests his father, the late Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, feared his son's suitability to rule for this reason. Intelligence sources allege Mojtaba had a long-term relationship with a childhood tutor and made overtures to male caregivers while hospitalized.

Keywords: mojtaba khamenei, [ali khamenei](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ali-khamenei.md), [new york post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-post.md), [lgbtq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbtq.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Fujairah Port Attacks, Oil Pipeline Bypass, Gas Prices (1:03:06–1:05:39)

Iranian attacks targeted the UAE port of Fujairah, a critical export point that bypasses the Strait of Hormuz. The International Energy Agency reported the largest oil supply disruption in history due to the conflict. While gas prices have risen to nearly $5.00 a gallon in some areas, the hosts suggest the situation is a strategic move to force China to pay retail prices for energy.

Keywords: [fujairah](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fujairah.md), [uae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uae.md), [strait of hormuz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strait-of-hormuz.md), [oil pipeline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-pipeline.md), [gas prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gas-prices.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Russian Tanker Drone Strike, South Pars Gas Field (1:05:40–1:08:44)

A Russian tanker carrying liquid petroleum gas was reportedly hit by Ukrainian drones off the coast of Italy, leading to a massive fire. Meanwhile, Israel allegedly struck the South Pars gas field, the world's largest natural gas field shared by Iran and Qatar. Qatar accused Israel of irresponsible escalation that threatens global energy security.

Keywords: [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), russian tanker, south pars, [qatar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qatar.md), [lng](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lng.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Donald Trump Truth Social, Qatar LNG Protection (1:08:43–1:11:33)

President Donald Trump posted a lengthy statement on Truth Social regarding the attack on the South Pars gas field. Trump clarified that the U.S. was not involved in the Israeli strike and warned that any further attacks on Qatar's LNG facilities would result in a massive American military response. He emphasized that the U.S. would act with or without Israeli consent to protect energy infrastructure.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [truth social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/truth-social.md), [qatar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qatar.md), south pars, [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Abraham Accords, Former President Envy, Trump Ratings (1:11:34–1:13:54)

Donald Trump claimed that a former president told him they wished they had taken his aggressive stance toward Iran. Trump argued that his actions have turned Iran from a regional bully into a "shell of itself," paving the way for the Abraham Accords. The hosts speculate that the former president in question might be Bill Clinton, given Trump's comments about Hillary Clinton's influence.

Keywords: [abraham accords](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abraham-accords.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [george w. bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-w-bush.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [nuclear weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-weapons.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Academy Awards Ratings, Barbara Streisand, Josh Brolin (1:13:54–1:17:37)

Adam Curry notes that the Academy Awards ratings dropped 10% this year, calling the event an objective failure. Mimi Smith Dvorak shares anecdotes about encountering celebrities like Barbara Streisand and Josh Brolin at "Sunny Farms," a local grocery store in Washington. She describes her indifference toward fame and her interactions with Streisand, whom she claims looked like "the Crypt Keeper."

Keywords: [oscars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oscars.md), [barbara streisand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barbara-streisand.md), josh brolin, [sunny farms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sunny-farms.md), sequim

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Jane Fonda, Robert Redford, Oscar In Memoriam Omissions (1:17:37–1:19:33)

The hosts criticize the Oscar "In Memoriam" segment, noting that Jane Fonda appeared to have been drinking before her tribute to Robert Redford. They list several notable figures omitted from the segment, including Bridgette Bardot, Robert Carradine, and David Kiley, the inventor of IMAX. Adam mentions that John C. Dvorak watched the ceremony while in the hospital.

Keywords: [jane fonda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jane-fonda.md), [robert redford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-redford.md), [oscars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oscars.md), bridgette bardot, [imax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imax.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Celebrity Culture, W.C. Fields, Paparazzi Anecdotes (1:19:34–1:23:45)

Mimi Smith Dvorak discusses her family's history in vaudeville through her grandmother, Emma Janvier, who worked with W.C. Fields. Adam Curry reflects on his own experience with fame in the Netherlands and as an MTV VJ in New York. They discuss the loss of privacy associated with celebrity and how some stars, like Harrison Ford, choose to live away from Hollywood to avoid the paparazzi.

Keywords: [w.c. fields](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/w-c-fields.md), emma janvier, vaudeville, [paparazzi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paparazzi.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Adam Curry MTV Fame, Restaurant Perks, Value for Value (1:23:45–1:27:45)

Adam Curry recounts the perks of his early fame, such as receiving free meals and swag at the Hard Rock Cafe in the 1980s. He explains how his MTV background helped him in business meetings but also required him to apologize for technical failures. Now in his 60s, he enjoys being recognized from the Joe Rogan Experience and podcasting, which often results in better seating at restaurants.

Keywords: [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), hard rock cafe, [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Jim Morrison Encounter, Royal Hawaiian Hotel, 1968 (1:27:45–1:30:56)

Mimi Smith Dvorak shares a story from the summer of 1968 when she stayed at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel in Honolulu. She befriended a young man who lamented the burdens of fame, only to later discover he was Jim Morrison of The Doors. Morrison invited Mimi's parents to his performance, but her mother declined the invitation, preferring to go to dinner instead.

Keywords: jim morrison, the doors, royal hawaiian hotel, [honolulu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/honolulu.md), [1968](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1968.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/32.md)

### 33. John C. Dvorak Surprise Appearance, Recovery Update (1:30:56–1:36:33)

John C. Dvorak makes a surprise live appearance on the stream, confirming he is out of the hospital and plans to return to the show on Sunday. He jokingly criticizes Mimi's storytelling and Adam's hosting. The hosts express mutual affection and relief regarding John's recovery from his "valve job" and cardiac procedure.

Keywords: [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [heart surgery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heart-surgery.md), [recovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recovery.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [banter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/banter.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Sponsor segment: No Agenda Donation Segment, Episode 1851 Artwork (1:36:35–1:42:12)

Adam Curry and Mimi Smith Dvorak thank the "No Agenda Nation" for their support through the value-for-value model. They credit Baron Darren O'Neill for the artwork of Episode 1851, titled "Mork and Mimi." Several high-tier donations are read, many of which include get-well wishes for John C. Dvorak following his recent surgery.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [heart surgery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heart-surgery.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Sponsor segment: Manuka Honey, Image Makers Inc, Resume Services (1:42:12–1:46:49)

The hosts read a donation from Dennis Cadel, who promotes Manuka Gold honey products as a natural anti-inflammatory. Another credit is given to Linda Liu of Image Makers Inc., who provides professional resume writing and career coaching services. The segment concludes with a reminder of how listeners can support the show at noagendadonations.com.

Keywords: [manuka honey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manuka-honey.md), [manuka gold](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manuka-gold.md), [image makers inc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/image-makers-inc.md), linda liu, [resumes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/resumes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Markwayne Mullin, Donald Trump, Brain Injury Story (1:46:52–1:49:55)

During a confirmation hearing, Senator Markwayne Mullin shared an emotional story about President Donald Trump's support after Mullin's son suffered a serious brain injury in 2020. Mullin claimed Trump called daily to check on the boy and that a visit from the President helped jog his son's memory. The hosts discuss the humanizing aspect of the story and its impact on Trump's image.

Keywords: markwayne mullin, [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [brain injury](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brain-injury.md), [mar-a-lago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mar-a-lago.md), [confirmation hearing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/confirmation-hearing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Cesar Chavez Sexual Assault Allegations, New York Times (1:49:55–1:53:00)

A New York Times investigation has brought forward sexual assault and rape allegations against farm labor icon Cesar Chavez. Dolores Huerta, the 95-year-old co-founder of the UFW, is among those cited in the report. As a result, several cities and organizations are canceling events and removing Chavez's name from public spaces and schools.

Keywords: [cesar chavez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cesar-chavez.md), [ufw](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ufw.md), [dolores huerta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dolores-huerta.md), [sexual assault](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-assault.md), [phoenix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/phoenix.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Cesar Chavez, Illegal Immigration, Bracero Program (1:53:00–1:56:09)

Archival interviews from 1972 and 1974 reveal Cesar Chavez's strong opposition to illegal immigration, which he viewed as a tool for strike-breaking. Chavez used derogatory terms like "wetbacks" to describe undocumented workers and accused the Department of Justice of leaving checkpoints unmanned. The hosts suggest the recent sexual assault allegations are being used to erase Chavez from history because his views on immigration conflict with modern political narratives.

Keywords: [cesar chavez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cesar-chavez.md), wetbacks, [illegal immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illegal-immigration.md), [bracero program](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bracero-program.md), [labor unions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-unions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Martin Luther King Jr. FBI Files, Infidelity Allegations (1:56:09–1:58:13)

The discussion turns to resurfaced FBI files and National Archives reports alleging serial infidelity by Martin Luther King Jr. The reports claim King had encounters with dozens of women and was present during acts of abuse. The hosts question the timing of these revelations and whether they are part of a broader trend of re-evaluating historical figures through a modern lens.

Keywords: [martin luther king jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/martin-luther-king-jr.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [national archives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-archives.md), [infidelity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infidelity.md), [civil rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-rights.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/39.md)

### 40. History Rewriting, Statue Removal, Cesar Chavez Day (1:58:14–2:01:29)

Mimi Smith Dvorak argues that the removal of Cesar Chavez's name from schools and the cancellation of his holiday—established by Barack Obama—is a form of historical erasure. Adam Curry compares this to the removal of statues of Washington and Jefferson. They discuss how narratives are being shifted to remove "heroes" who no longer fit current ideological standards.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), cesar chavez day, [historical revisionism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/historical-revisionism.md), [statues](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/statues.md), [washington](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/40.md)

### 41. California Petition Fraud, SEIU Corruption, Billionaire Tax (2:01:29–2:03:49)

Viral videos from San Francisco appear to show people being paid $5 to sign ballot initiatives for a proposed "billionaire tax." The initiative is sponsored by the SEIU-UHW, a union whose leadership has faced federal convictions for embezzlement and mail fraud. The hosts discuss the legality of the signature-gathering process and the potential for large-scale fraud in California's initiative system.

Keywords: [seiu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seiu.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), petition fraud, [embezzlement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/embezzlement.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Nick Shirley, California Hospice Fraud, Medicare Billing (2:03:50–2:06:41)

YouTuber Nick Shirley released a video exposing massive hospice and home healthcare fraud in California. He reports a 1,000% increase in hospice care in Los Angeles County, with many facilities existing only as empty offices. The fraud involves stealing Medicare beneficiary numbers to bill the government for services never provided to patients.

Keywords: [nick shirley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nick-shirley.md), [medi-cal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medi-cal.md), hospice fraud, [medicare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicare.md), [los angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-angeles.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Armenian Mob, California Audit, YouTuber Investigations (2:06:41–2:10:03)

A 2019 California state audit confirmed large-scale hospice fraud, often linked to organized crime groups like the Armenian mob. Despite these findings, Governor Gavin Newsom has been criticized for failing to implement effective reforms. The hosts praise Nick Shirley's "stealth" investigative style for bringing public attention to issues that official government reports have failed to resolve.

Keywords: armenian mob, [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [nick shirley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nick-shirley.md), [audit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audit.md), [hospice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hospice.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Donald Trump on Somali Voting Blocks, Wealth Tax Debate (2:10:03–2:12:32)

Donald Trump commented on how certain immigrant groups, such as Somalis, allegedly vote in blocks to maintain "gravy trains" of government funding. Meanwhile, California's proposed wealth tax—a 5% one-time tax on billionaires—is being debated. Governor Gavin Newsom has opposed the tax, warning it could cause the state's wealthiest residents to flee to Nevada or Texas.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [somali](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/somali.md), [voting blocks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voting-blocks.md), [wealth tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wealth-tax.md), [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/44.md)

### 45. California Wealth Tax Mechanics, Federal Health Care Cuts (2:12:32–2:16:02)

The proposed California wealth tax would target approximately 200 individuals worth over $1 billion, exempting real estate and personal property like private jets. Supporters, including Bernie Sanders, argue the revenue is needed to cover federal cuts to health care. Critics point out that 40% of California's income tax already comes from the top 1%, making the state vulnerable if they relocate.

Keywords: [wealth tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wealth-tax.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [health care](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-care.md), [budget](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budget.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Sponsor segment: No Agenda Associate Executive Producers, Health Karma (2:16:02–2:20:00)

Adam and Mimi read a list of Associate Executive Producers who donated $50 or more. Many donors requested "health karma" for John C. Dvorak and "relationship karma" for themselves. The segment includes "de-douching" ceremonies for first-time donors and mentions of various listener-run businesses and projects.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/producers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Sponsor segment: Listener Donations, Boob Donations, Spooktacular Mimi (2:20:00–2:24:14)

The donation segment continues with a high volume of "boob donations" (amounts ending in 80.08), which the hosts attribute to Mimi's presence on the show. Listeners from across the U.S. and Canada send in messages of support for John's recovery and praise for Mimi's "spooktacular" performance as a fill-in co-host.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [boob donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boob-donations.md), [mimi smith dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mimi-smith-dvorak.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Sponsor segment: Birthday Call-outs, Knighting Ceremony Preview, Bitcoin Donations (2:24:13–2:28:14)

The hosts perform birthday call-outs for several listeners and announce an upcoming knighting ceremony for Steven Newman, who requested the name "Sir Vagabond of the Middle Midwest." They remind the audience that the show accepts support via Bitcoin, the Lightning Network, and stablecoins like USDC at noagendadonations.com.

Keywords: [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [lightning network](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lightning-network.md), chianti

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Sponsor segment: No Agenda Meetups, Idaho, Japan, Texas (2:28:14–2:31:43)

A list of upcoming No Agenda meetups is read, including events in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho; Okinawa, Japan; and Franklin, Tennessee. Adam Curry emphasizes that "connection is protection" and encourages listeners to attend or start their own local meetups. A major meetup is scheduled for April 11th in Fredericksburg, Texas, at Jenny's Place.

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [idaho](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/idaho.md), [okinawa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/okinawa.md), [franklin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/franklin.md), [fredericksburg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fredericksburg.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/49.md)

### 50. ISO Segment, Asmongold, Tucker Carlson Clips (2:31:43–2:35:17)

Mimi brings nine audio clips (ISOs) for the production segment, though Adam finds many of them too long for standard use. They play clips featuring Asmongold and Tucker Carlson, debating which ones are suitable for future show production. The segment highlights the collaborative effort in selecting the "sound" of the podcast.

Keywords: [iso](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iso.md), [asmongold](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/asmongold.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [audio clips](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-clips.md), [production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/production.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Tip of the Day, My Pet Peed, Dog Incontinence (2:35:18–2:39:03)

Mimi Smith Dvorak provides the "Tip of the Day," recommending a cleaning product called "My Pet Peed" for managing pet stains and odors. She explains that she has four elderly dogs, including a 16-year-old basset hound, and uses the hydrogen peroxide-based formula to maintain her hardwood floors. The product is described as fragrance-free and effective on various surfaces.

Keywords: my pet peed, [hydrogen peroxide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydrogen-peroxide.md), dog care, [cleaning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cleaning.md), basset hound

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/51.md)

### 52. Show Outro, Benjamin Netanyahu Critique, Michael Flynn (2:39:05–2:44:44)

The episode concludes with a montage of clips criticizing Benjamin Netanyahu's handling of Hamas and the Gaza conflict. General Michael Flynn and other commentators question whether Netanyahu allowed the October 7th attacks to happen to maintain power. Adam Curry thanks Mimi for her help over the past two weeks as the show prepares for John C. Dvorak's return.

Keywords: [benjamin netanyahu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benjamin-netanyahu.md), [michael flynn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-flynn.md), [hamas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamas.md), [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md), [holocaust](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holocaust.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1852-jell-no/chapter/52.md)

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