# Scott Adams Redux > A deep dive into the engineering mind of the late Scott Adams reveals how hypnosis, corporate satire, and neurological hurdles shaped the Dilbert empire. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 1841 - **Published:** 2026-02-08 - **Length:** 1h 26m - **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host) - **Topics:** [Scott Adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-adams.md), [Dilbert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dilbert.md), Master Persuasion, [Spasmodic Dysphonia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spasmodic-dysphonia.md), Blight Authority, Super Bowl LXI, WhenHub - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux ## About this episode The late Dilbert creator Scott Adams reveals the professional and physical tolls of his career, including a 40% income loss following his public analysis of Donald Trump's persuasion tactics. John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry revisit the legacy of the cartoonist, detailing his early days at Pacific Bell and his transition from a corporate engineer to a master of workplace satire. The retrospective highlights Adams' unique perspective on human irrationality and his eventual withdrawal from public speaking due to safety concerns in a polarized political climate. Adams recounts his struggle with focal dystonia and spasmodic dysphonia, the latter of which cost him his voice for over three years before an experimental surgery at USC by Dr. Gerald Burke restored it. The discussion spans his MBA-driven approach to comic syndication, his failed restaurant investments following the September 11 attacks, and his work with Bill Pulte on the Blight Authority urban renewal project. Additional insights include his interactions with Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff, his critique of MSNBC's Rachel Maddow, and his early missed opportunity to invest in Cisco Systems. John C. Dvorak shares personal anecdotes from his thirty-year friendship with Scott Adams, including a memorable tour of a house featuring heated floors but no wall art. The segment captures Adams' distinctive skepticism toward traditional fiction and his preference for the visual imagination found in Fox News programs like The Five. Adam Curry and Dvorak conclude with a look at Super Bowl LXI prop bets and the enduring value of podcast RSS feeds as digital legacies. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/transcript.md. ### 1. Super Bowl LXI Predictions, Seattle Seahawks vs. New England Patriots (0:00–8:05) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the upcoming Super Bowl matchup between the Seattle Seahawks and the New England Patriots on February 8, 2026. Dvorak posits that the NFL Hall of Fame snubbed Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft due to their support for Donald Trump, suggesting the league's political leanings might influence the game's outcome. They review various prop bets involving halftime performers Bad Bunny and Green Day, as well as potential political protests by players. Keywords: [super bowl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/super-bowl.md), [seattle seahawks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seattle-seahawks.md), [new england patriots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-england-patriots.md), drake maye, [bill belichick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-belichick.md), [robert kraft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-kraft.md), [bad bunny](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bad-bunny.md), [green day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-day.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Anthropic Anti-Advertising Campaign, AI Industry Sustainability (8:05–9:48) Anthropic released an advertisement featuring a robotic voice to announce its commitment to never using advertisements within its AI products. The move has sparked debate regarding the financial sustainability of AI companies like OpenAI and Anthropic if they eschew traditional ad revenue models. Keywords: [anthropic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthropic.md), [chatgpt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chatgpt.md), [openai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/openai.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Scott Adams Retrospective, Personal Anecdotes and Legacy (9:49–15:44) John C. Dvorak introduces a retrospective interview with the late Dilbert creator Scott Adams, sharing personal stories from their 30-year friendship. Dvorak recalls visiting Adams' house, discussing his marriage to Stacy Basham, his lack of wall art, and his strong recommendation for heated floors in home construction. Keywords: [scott adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-adams.md), [dilbert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dilbert.md), stacy basham, affirmations, heated floors [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Scott Adams Career Origins, Pacific Bell and Cisco Investment (15:45–19:34) Scott Adams recounts his early days working at Pacific Bell in 1993, where he demonstrated the nascent World Wide Web to visitors. He reflects on his failure to invest in Cisco despite a direct recommendation from a top engineer, calling it his worst financial decision. Keywords: [scott adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-adams.md), [pacific bell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pacific-bell.md), [world wide web](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-wide-web.md), [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Dilbert Success, Business Strategy in Comic Syndication (19:35–23:00) Scott Adams explains how his MBA background influenced the success of Dilbert by treating the comic strip as a business product. By listening to reader feedback via email, he pivoted the strip from generic themes to a focused workplace satire, filling a unique niche in the syndication market. Keywords: [dilbert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dilbert.md), [mba](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mba.md), comic syndication, workplace humor, [business strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/business-strategy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Scott Adams Creative Process, Engineering and Absurdist Humor (23:00–25:27) Scott Adams describes his drawing skills as a product of brute force and genetic influence from his parents. He defines his humor as a blend of engineering logic and the identification of "cognitive blind spots" where smart people in management act irrationally. Keywords: landscape art, [engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/engineering.md), absurdist humor, cognitive blind spots, [management](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/management.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Scott Adams Departure from Pacific Bell, Corporate Lure (25:27–29:43) Scott Adams clarifies the circumstances of his departure from Pacific Bell, noting that he was initially kept on as a "lure" for sales calls because of his fame. He eventually left peacefully when a manager needed his budget for another project, despite the company's CEO later expressing surprise at his exit. Keywords: [pacific bell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pacific-bell.md), anita, [alice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alice.md), corporate management, [ceo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ceo.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Focal Dystonia Diagnosis, Transition to Digital Drawing (29:44–34:02) Scott Adams details his struggle with focal dystonia, a neurological condition that caused spasms in his drawing hand. He explains how switching to a computer and stylus tricked his brain into not recognizing the activity as "drawing," eventually allowing him to remediate the problem and increase his productivity. Keywords: focal dystonia, drawing, stylus, [kaiser](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kaiser.md), [neurology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neurology.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Tourette's Syndrome Discussion, Personality Traits (34:02–35:44) John C. Dvorak questions Scott Adams on whether he has Tourette's Syndrome, comparing his physical tics to those of Adam Curry. The conversation touches on the correlation between minor Tourette's and being a "neat freak," though Adams remains skeptical of the diagnosis. Keywords: [tourette's syndrome](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tourette-s-syndrome.md), [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), [neat freak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neat-freak.md), physical tics [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Spasmodic Dysphonia, Experimental Vocal Surgery (35:44–41:42) Scott Adams describes losing his voice for three and a half years due to spasmodic dysphonia, a condition he self-diagnosed using Google Alerts. He eventually underwent an experimental surgery at USC performed by Dr. Gerald Burke, which involved rewiring the nerves in his neck to restore his speech. Keywords: [spasmodic dysphonia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spasmodic-dysphonia.md), [vocal cords](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vocal-cords.md), [botox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/botox.md), gerald burke, [usc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usc.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Political Affiliation, Hypnosis and Human Rationality (41:42–45:17) Scott Adams discusses his transition from a Democrat to an unaffiliated voter, citing his vote for Jimmy Carter as a turning point in his political engagement. He explains how his training as a hypnotist convinced him that humans are fundamentally irrational and easily reprogrammed through specific persuasion tools. Keywords: [jimmy carter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-carter.md), [ronald reagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ronald-reagan.md), [hypnosis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hypnosis.md), [persuasion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/persuasion.md), worldview [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Donald Trump Persuasion Techniques, Norman Vincent Peale (45:18–50:51) Scott Adams analyzes Donald Trump's effectiveness as a "Master Persuader," attributing his skills to his background in sales and the influence of Pastor Norman Vincent Peale. Adams highlights Trump's use of visual imagery, fear persuasion, and the "talking past the sale" technique as keys to his political success. Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [art of the deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/art-of-the-deal.md), [norman vincent peale](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norman-vincent-peale.md), visual imagery, [public speaking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-speaking.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Business Consequences of Political Commentary, Public Speaking Safety (50:52–53:45) Scott Adams reveals that his public analysis of Donald Trump's persuasion skills resulted in a 40% loss of income and the loss of 75% of his social circle. He explains that he stopped public speaking engagements because he no longer feels safe in front of large crowds due to political polarization. Keywords: [trump apologist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-apologist.md), income loss, [public speaking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-speaking.md), social circle, [cancel culture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cancel-culture.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Restaurant Investment Failures, 9/11 Economic Impact (53:45–55:32) Scott Adams discusses the financial failure of his restaurant ventures, citing unscrupulous legal challenges and poor timing. He notes that he signed a major lease on September 11, 2001, just as the economy collapsed following the terrorist attacks and the dot-com crash. Keywords: restaurant business, [legal settlements](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legal-settlements.md), [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [dot-com crash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dot-com-crash.md), leases [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Blight Authority Project, Urban Renewal (55:32–57:16) Scott Adams promotes the Blight Authority, a project founded by Bill Pulte aimed at clearing abandoned buildings in run-down urban areas. The initiative focuses on bulldozing blighted properties to reduce crime and create new opportunities for land development. Keywords: [bill pulte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-pulte.md), blight authority, [urban renewal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/urban-renewal.md), [demolition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demolition.md), crime reduction [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Educational Background, Hartwick College and UC Berkeley (57:17–58:57) Scott Adams reviews his academic history, noting he was the valedictorian of a small high school class. He earned an undergraduate degree in economics from Hartwick College and later obtained an MBA from UC Berkeley while working at Pacific Bell. Keywords: [valedictorian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/valedictorian.md), hartwick college, [economics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economics.md), [uc berkeley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uc-berkeley.md), [mba](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mba.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Political Figure Analysis, Mike Pence and Kellyanne Conway (58:58–1:02:37) Scott Adams provides his take on various political figures, describing Mike Pence as a "boring" but solid backup for Donald Trump. He also praises Kellyanne Conway's skill and loyalty, and recounts a personal meeting with Trump in the Oval Office following the release of his book, "Win Bigly." Keywords: [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), [kellyanne conway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kellyanne-conway.md), [win bigly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/win-bigly.md), [oval office](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oval-office.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Media Critique, Rachel Maddow and MSNBC (1:02:37–1:04:32) Scott Adams acknowledges the talent of Rachel Maddow while disagreeing with her political perspective. He characterizes MSNBC as an "exaggerated version" of CNN, suggesting the network pushes biased opinions to an extreme level. Keywords: [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md), [talent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/talent.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Silicon Valley Billionaires, Mark Benioff and Philanthropy (1:04:34–1:09:27) Scott Adams shares his observations on Silicon Valley billionaires, specifically highlighting Salesforce founder Mark Benioff. He describes Benioff as operating on a superior level of "intention" and recounts an anecdote about Benioff insisting on placing philanthropic efforts on the first page of a company presentation. Keywords: [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [billionaires](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/billionaires.md), [mark benioff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-benioff.md), [salesforce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salesforce.md), [philanthropy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philanthropy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Media Consumption Habits, The Five and Visual Imagination (1:09:28–1:12:01) Scott Adams reveals his preference for Fox News programs like "The Five" and "The Greg Gutfeld Show." He explains his dislike for reading fiction, claiming his own professional creative imagination is more vivid and interesting than stories written by others. Keywords: [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [the five](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-five.md), [greg gutfeld](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-gutfeld.md), [fiction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiction.md), imagination [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Technology Preferences, Programming and Lifestyle (1:12:01–1:16:24) Scott Adams discusses his technical background in BASIC programming and his eventual transition to being a dedicated Macintosh and iPhone user. He also touches on his lifestyle choices, including his decision to stop drinking alcohol and his mixed experiences with high-end Michelin-starred restaurants. Keywords: [basic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/basic.md), [vax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vax.md), [macintosh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/macintosh.md), [iphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone.md), [french laundry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/french-laundry.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/21.md) ### 22. WhenHub Startup, Expert Consulting and Crypto (1:16:25–1:20:06) Scott Adams introduces his startup, WhenHub, and its app "Interface," which allows users to pay experts for video call consultations. The platform utilizes its own cryptocurrency token, WEN, and aims to transform fields such as healthcare, education, and professional consulting. Keywords: whenhub, interface, nick caliani, [cryptocurrency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cryptocurrency.md), [ico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ico.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Dilbert Compilations, Human Resources Satire (1:20:06–1:21:35) Scott Adams mentions his latest Dilbert compilation, "Cubicles That Make You Envy the Dead," and explains the origin of the character Catbert. He notes that he chose a cat to represent the Director of Human Resources because cats are perceived as indifferent to the well-being of others. Keywords: [dilbert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dilbert.md), catbert, [human resources](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-resources.md), [comic books](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comic-books.md), dogbert [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1841-scott-adams-redux/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Podcast Feed Value, Post-Mortem Strategy and Outro (1:21:36–1:26:09) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the inherent value of podcast RSS feeds and subscriber lists after a host's death, citing the continued activity on Scott Adams' and Charlie Kirk's feeds. They joke about their own "exit strategy" and remind listeners to support the show via the value-for-value model ahead of Valentine's Day. 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