# Tokyo Rose

> Military command structures fracture as lawmakers face sedition claims while a leaked diplomatic transcript reveals the high-stakes maneuvering behind a proposed Ukraine peace deal.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1820
- **Published:** 2025-11-27
- **Length:** 3h 23m
- **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host)
- **Topics:** Seditious Six, Tokyo Rose, Witkoff Leak, Character.ai, Green Wednesday, Wall of Sound
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose

## About this episode

Senator Mark Kelly and Representative Alyssa Slotkin face intense Pentagon scrutiny following a controversial video advising military personnel on the refusal of illegal orders. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth characterizes the move as a politically motivated influence operation, while legal experts weigh the applicability of the Tokyo Rose statute regarding the fomenting of insubordination. The investigation intensifies as retired officers suggest the lawmakers' actions violate the military chain of command and could lead to unprecedented UCMJ prosecution.

In the legal sphere, prosecutor Lindsay Halligan sees cases against James Comey and Letitia James dismissed after a judge ruled her appointment illegal. Meanwhile, Special Envoy Steve Witkoff faces calls for dismissal after a leaked transcript revealed him coaching Putin aide Yuri Ushakov on how to approach Donald Trump. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen continues to push for the seizure of 210 billion euros in frozen Russian assets, even as a proposed US peace plan for Ukraine suggests a significant reduction in the Ukrainian military and the abandonment of NATO ambitions.

Cultural shifts take center stage as British Lord Brooke links assisted suicide and contraception to climate change goals during a parliamentary debate. On the technology front, Character.ai implements strict time limits for teenagers forming emotional bonds with bots, while Elon Musk introduces a location feature on X that exposes foreign influence operations originating in Pakistan and the UK. The program concludes with a knighting ceremony for top donors and a tip from John C. Dvorak on the culinary necessity of Frank's Red Hot sauce.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/transcript.md.

### 1. Thanksgiving History, Lincoln Proclamation, and Presidential Turkey Pardons (0:00–12:00)

A deconstruction of Thanksgiving origins challenges the traditional pilgrim narrative, attributing the modern holiday to an 1863 proclamation by Abraham Lincoln influenced by magazine editor Sarah Josepha Hale. The history of the presidential turkey pardon is traced from Harry Truman's grain conservation efforts to the formal tradition established by George H.W. Bush in 1989. Mention is made of John F. Kennedy's 1963 informal sparing of a turkey just days before his assassination.

Keywords: [abraham lincoln](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abraham-lincoln.md), [george h.w. bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-h-w-bush.md), [harry truman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harry-truman.md), national turkey federation, [thanksgiving](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thanksgiving.md), [john f. kennedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-f-kennedy.md), sarah josepha hale

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Media Skepticism and No Agenda as Primary News Source (12:01–15:28)

A listener letter from an anonymous TSA agent prompts a discussion on the role of the program as a primary news source for those who distrust mainstream media (M5M). The conversation explores the "podcast circularity" of modern media and the disconnect between online political discourse on platforms like X and the concerns of the general American public.

Keywords: [m5m](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/m5m.md), [mainstream media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mainstream-media.md), [jesse watters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jesse-watters.md), x, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [media deconstruction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-deconstruction.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Seditious Six, Mark Kelly, and Military Chain of Command (15:28–22:15)

Six Democratic lawmakers, including Senator Mark Kelly and Representative Alyssa Slotkin, face FBI scrutiny and Pentagon investigations after releasing a video advising military members to refuse illegal orders. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth characterizes the video as a politically motivated influence operation, while the lawmakers defend their actions as a reminder of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

Keywords: [mark kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-kelly.md), [chuck schumer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-schumer.md), [pete hegseth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pete-hegseth.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [sedition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sedition.md), [ucmj](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ucmj.md), [alyssa slotkin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alyssa-slotkin.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Media Coverage Bias in the Seditious Six Investigation (22:16–26:57)

An analysis of news reports from ABC, CBS, and NBC regarding the "Seditious Six" investigation reveals a perceived lack of balance and the use of "mind-reading" techniques by reporters. The coverage is criticized for failing to present the Pentagon's perspective effectively while focusing on the lawmakers' claims of intimidation.

Keywords: [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [barry weiss](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barry-weiss.md), [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md), [fbi investigation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi-investigation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Buzz Patterson on Military Insubordination and Political Motives (26:59–31:53)

Retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Buzz Patterson criticizes the Democratic lawmakers' video as a violation of the military chain of command and a treasonous act. The discussion suggests that the lawmakers' focus on "illegal orders" may be a strategic move by Chuck Schumer to prepare for future impeachments related to the interdiction of drug boats.

Keywords: buzz patterson, [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [pete hegseth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pete-hegseth.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [treason](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treason.md), [sedition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sedition.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Tokyo Rose Statute and Conduct Unbecoming of an Officer (31:54–38:28)

A constitutional lawyer and former JAG officer provides an analysis of US Code 2387, the "anti-Tokyo Rose" statute, which prohibits fomenting insubordination among military members. The legal theory explores whether Senator Mark Kelly could be recalled to active duty for prosecution under UCMJ articles regarding conduct unbecoming of an officer, though a conviction is deemed unlikely due to the political fallout it would cause.

Keywords: tokyo rose, [ucmj](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ucmj.md), [mark kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-kelly.md), lindsay halligan, [military law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-law.md), iva toguri d'aquino

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/6.md)

### 7. James Comey and Letitia James Case Dismissals (38:28–41:42)

Federal cases against former FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James are dismissed after a judge ruled that prosecutor Lindsay Halligan was illegally appointed. The dismissal "without prejudice" allows the Department of Justice to potentially refile the charges, which were initially brought amid claims of vindictive prosecution.

Keywords: [james comey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comey.md), [letitia james](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/letitia-james.md), lindsay halligan, [doj](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/doj.md), vindictive prosecution, without prejudice

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Fulton County RICO Case Dismissal and Election Software Claims (41:42–50:15)

Special prosecutor Peter Skandalakis moves to dismiss the 2020 election interference RICO case in Georgia against Donald Trump and 18 co-defendants, citing the complexity of trying a sitting president. The segment also touches on claims by Patrick Byrne and Gary Bernson regarding election software vulnerabilities and historical parallels to voting machine controversies in previous US elections.

Keywords: [fulton county](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fulton-county.md), [fani willis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fani-willis.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [brad raffensperger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brad-raffensperger.md), [dominion voting systems](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dominion-voting-systems.md), [patrick byrne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patrick-byrne.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Steve Witkoff Leaked Phone Call and Russian Diplomacy (50:16–54:14)

A leaked transcript published by Bloomberg reveals a conversation between Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and Putin aide Yuri Ushakov, where Witkoff appears to coach the Russian official on how to approach Donald Trump. Representative Don Bacon calls for Witkoff's firing, while Trump defends the call as standard negotiation practice.

Keywords: [steve witkoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-witkoff.md), yuri ushakov, [bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloomberg.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), don bacon, [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Ukraine Peace Plan and European Territorial Disputes (54:14–1:00:06)

The proposed US peace plan for Ukraine reportedly includes reducing the size of the Ukrainian military and abandoning NATO ambitions. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky rejects the assessment that the fall of Donetsk is inevitable, while European officials express concern over being excluded from Washington-Moscow negotiations.

Keywords: [volodymyr zelensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volodymyr-zelensky.md), [donetsk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donetsk.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Source of the Witkoff Leak and "Donald Putin" Gaffe (1:00:06–1:06:09)

Speculation regarding the source of the Witkoff-Ushakov leak points toward US intelligence, NATO allies, or British intelligence (MI6). A France 24 segment is highlighted for a verbal gaffe where a commentator refers to the envoy as "Donald Putin's top envoy," reflecting deep-seated media bias against the administration's Russia policy.

Keywords: [bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloomberg.md), [newsweek](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsweek.md), [mi6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mi6.md), doug lute, [steve witkoff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-witkoff.md), [france 24](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france-24.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Ursula von der Leyen and Frozen Russian Assets (1:06:09–1:11:01)

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen advocates for using 210 billion euros in frozen Russian assets to fund a reparations loan for Ukraine. The US peace plan reportedly proposes unblocking these funds for investment vehicles where the US would take a significant portion of the profits, potentially leaving Europe with the financial burden of reconstruction.

Keywords: [ursula von der leyen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ursula-von-der-leyen.md), [european commission](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-commission.md), [euroclear](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/euroclear.md), [g7](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g7.md), [reparations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reparations.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/12.md)

### 13. NATO Leadership Shift and German Military Role (1:11:02–1:13:50)

US Ambassador to NATO Matthew Whitaker suggests that Germany should eventually take over the Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) role, a position traditionally held by a US general. This potential shift signals a desire for European military capabilities to equal those of the US and a possible retreat from American leadership in European security.

Keywords: [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [matthew whitaker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matthew-whitaker.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), saceur, collective security, [soviet union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/soviet-union.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Donald Trump Plane Gaggle and 11 Labs Voice Isolation (1:13:50–1:15:26)

Donald Trump addresses reporters on his plane regarding negotiations with Vladimir Putin and the difficulty of ending the war in Ukraine due to deep-seated hatred between the parties. The audio is processed through 11 Labs voice isolation software to improve clarity, leading to a comparison of Trump's cadence to actor Christopher Walken.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [11 labs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/11-labs.md), voice isolation, [ukraine war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine-war.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/14.md)

### 15. 9/11 Truth Media Surge and WTC Building 7 (1:15:26–1:19:41)

A recent surge in media coverage regarding World Trade Center Building 7 is noted, featuring interviews with Richard Gage and Kristen Breitweiser on prominent podcasts. The discussion revisits the 2001 BBC report that prematurely announced the collapse of the Salomon Brothers building 20 minutes before it actually fell.

Keywords: [building 7](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/building-7.md), [brett weinstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brett-weinstein.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), richard gage, [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), salomon brothers building

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/15.md)

### 16. MrBeast and Rockefeller Foundation Youth Philanthropy (1:19:41–1:20:37)

YouTube creator MrBeast is partnering with the Rockefeller Foundation to promote philanthropy among youth. The initiative is criticized as a potential propaganda tool or a way to extract financial resources from a generation already facing economic challenges.

Keywords: mrbeast, [rockefeller foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rockefeller-foundation.md), [philanthropy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philanthropy.md), [gen z](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gen-z.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/16.md)

### 17. British Assisted Suicide Bill and Population Control (1:20:38–1:24:20)

During a debate on an assisted suicide bill in the British Parliament, Lord Brooke suggests that legalized abortion, contraception, and the growth of homosexuality have been beneficial for managing global population growth. The comments link these social factors to the fight against climate change, drawing criticism for their "ghoulish" nature.

Keywords: lord brooke, [assisted suicide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/assisted-suicide.md), [population control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/population-control.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [abortion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abortion.md), [homosexuality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homosexuality.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Saeed Bolson on AI as a New System of Tyranny (1:24:20–1:34:51)

Activist Saeed Bolson argues that AI is being positioned as a god-like authority to justify technocratic tyranny, comparing the "AI priesthood" to the historical power of the church in Europe. He asserts that AI lacks sentience and is merely a tool for labor suppression and ideological orthodoxy, controlled by a specific class of "anti-social tech nerds."

Keywords: saeed bolson, [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [technocracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technocracy.md), [effective altruism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/effective-altruism.md), [chatgpt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chatgpt.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Elon Musk Rumors and South African Influence (1:34:51–1:36:33)

A discussion of rumors surrounding Elon Musk's personal life includes claims about his efforts to increase the population through financial arrangements with women. The conversation speculates on the influence of his South African and Dutch heritage on his worldview and desire for control.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [south africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-africa.md), [population](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/population.md), dutch influence, dinner party rumors

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Character.ai and Teenager Dependency on AI Bots (1:36:36–1:38:30)

The Wall Street Journal reports that Character.ai is limiting teenagers to two hours of use per day, leading to distress among young users who have formed emotional bonds with AI bots. The phenomenon is described as a modern evolution of the "imaginary friend," affecting both children and adults.

Keywords: character.ai, [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), imaginary friends, [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md), [teenagers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/teenagers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/20.md)

### 21. X Account Location Feature and Foreign Influence Operations (1:38:31–1:45:54)

Elon Musk has rolled out a new feature on X that displays the country where an account is based, revealing that many "America First" and racially divisive accounts originate from Pakistan, the Middle East, and the UK. Commentators like Robby Soave and Matt Walsh argue this exposes foreign interference campaigns designed to sow discord within the American political landscape.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), x, robby soave, [pakistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pakistan.md), [foreign interference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foreign-interference.md), [bots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bots.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Thanksgiving Stock Market Agreement and Global Black Friday (1:45:54–1:47:41)

A financial theory suggests that stockbrokers have a "gentleman's agreement" to keep the market stable during Thanksgiving week to avoid client complaints during family gatherings. The segment also notes the global expansion of Black Friday sales into Europe, driven largely by Amazon.

Keywords: [wall street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street.md), [thanksgiving](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thanksgiving.md), [black friday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-friday.md), [stock market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stock-market.md), [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Green Wednesday and the "Cousin Walk" Cannabis Trend (1:47:41–1:49:14)

"Green Wednesday" has emerged as a major day for cannabis sales, popularized by the "cousin walk" trend where family members step away from Thanksgiving dinner to consume marijuana. Brands like Hidden Valley and Taco Bell have reportedly leaned into the trend for marketing purposes.

Keywords: green wednesday, [cannabis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cannabis.md), [thanksgiving](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thanksgiving.md), cousin walk, [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Macy's Parade Balloons and Personal Thanksgiving Plans (1:49:15–1:53:59)

The tradition of inflating balloons for the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade in New York City is discussed as a beloved public event. The hosts share personal plans for the holiday, including a high-end dinner in Fredericksburg, Texas, featuring caviar and fine wine prepared by a professional chef.

Keywords: macy's thanksgiving day parade, [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [fredericksburg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fredericksburg.md), [catering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catering.md), [wine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Tucker Carlson's Gold Company and Podcast Monetization (1:54:00–1:55:41)

Tucker Carlson is launching his own precious metals company, Battalion Metals, capitalizing on the popularity of gold as a sponsor category in the podcasting industry. The move is contrasted with the "value for value" model, which relies on direct listener support rather than traditional advertising.

Keywords: [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), battalion metals, [gold](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Modern Podcast Apps and Spotify Ad Contracts (1:55:41–1:58:37)

The benefits of modern podcast apps, such as live streaming and faster updates, are highlighted for listeners. The hosts explain their refusal to sign contracts with Spotify due to the platform's insistence on the right to insert advertisements into the content.

Keywords: [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcastapps.com](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcastapps-com.md), [live streaming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-streaming.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Suno AI and Warner Music Group Partnership (1:58:37–2:03:01)

Suno AI has entered a partnership with Warner Music Group to settle litigation and establish a framework for compensating the music industry for AI-generated content. The deal focuses on publishing rights and suggests that AI companies can identify specific copyrighted elements within their training data.

Keywords: [suno ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suno-ai.md), [warner music group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/warner-music-group.md), [ai music](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-music.md), [publishing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/publishing.md), [ascap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ascap.md), [bmi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bmi.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Concert Industry History and Roger McGuinn Anecdotes (2:03:02–2:09:08)

A discussion on the decline of the concert industry leads to personal stories about Roger McGuinn of The Birds. The segment covers the technical details of McGuinn's custom seven-string guitar, his preference for New York steak before performances, and his transition to performing lectures on cruises.

Keywords: [roger mcguinn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roger-mcguinn.md), the birds, 12-string guitar, [live music](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-music.md), [publishing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/publishing.md), [tony bennett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tony-bennett.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Grateful Dead's "Wall of Sound" and Standing Waves (2:09:09–2:14:27)

The Grateful Dead's legendary "Wall of Sound" is described as having the ability to create physical "standing waves" in an audience, a phenomenon confirmed by audio engineers. The hosts discuss the physical sensation of these waves and the technical ability to move them through a crowd using specialized gear.

Keywords: [grateful dead](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grateful-dead.md), wall of sound, standing waves, [bob heil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-heil.md), [audio engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-engineering.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/29.md)

### 30. No Agenda Art Gallery and Mesh-tastic Feedback (2:14:28–2:17:38)

The hosts review listener-submitted artwork for the podcast and discuss the legalities of using celebrity likenesses in promotional materials. Feedback on "Mesh-tastic" technology is also mentioned, with some users expressing disappointment in its practical application.

Keywords: mesh-tastic, [digital art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-art.md), [podcast art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-art.md), [jeffrey rea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-rea.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Executive Producer Donations and Global Listener Feedback (2:17:38–2:31:32)

A segment dedicated to high-tier donors includes a $2,666 contribution from a "Caterpillar salesman" and a $1,000 donation for a military reinstatement. A letter from a listener in Norway (or Estonia) discusses the cultural impact of immigration in Scandinavia, while Barry from Podhome.fm offers a Black Friday deal for podcast hosting.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md), [estonia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/estonia.md), podhome.fm, [caterpillar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/caterpillar.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/31.md)

### 32. De-douching Ceremonies and Centennial Birthday Wishes (2:31:33–2:42:07)

The hosts perform "de-douching" ceremonies for new donors and read a series of handwritten letters. A special 100th birthday wish is sent to a listener's mother, Alberta, and the segment highlights the multi-generational appeal of the program across "flyover country."

Keywords: [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md), centennial, [alberta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alberta.md), longhand letters, flyover country

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Small Business Support and Italian Plastering (2:42:07–2:48:35)

Donations from small business owners, including Little John's Candies and Gigawatt Coffee, are acknowledged. The hosts promote listener-owned businesses ranging from professional resume writing to high-end Italian plastering and wallpapering in California.

Keywords: [little john's candies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/little-john-s-candies.md), [gigawatt coffee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gigawatt-coffee.md), italian plastering, [small business](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/small-business.md), [resumes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/resumes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/33.md)

### 34. US Army Sexual Abuse Scandal and Dr. McGraw (2:48:35–3:00:23)

A massive sexual abuse scandal involving Army doctor Michael McGraw is detailed, with allegations of secret recordings and improper examinations affecting over 80 women. The investigation reveals that complaints were previously ignored at Tripler Army Medical Center in Hawaii before the doctor was transferred to Fort Hood.

Keywords: [u.s. army](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/u-s-army.md), dr. mcgraw, [fort hood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fort-hood.md), [sexual assault](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-assault.md), cid, tripler army medical center

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Campbell's Soup 3D Printed Chicken Allegations (3:00:24–3:04:02)

A lawsuit filed by a former Campbell's Soup employee alleges that an executive made disparaging remarks about the company's products, including claims of using 3D-printed or bioengineered chicken. While Campbell's denies the claims as "patently absurd," the Florida Attorney General has opened an investigation into the company's products.

Keywords: [campbell's soup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campbell-s-soup.md), [3d printed meat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/3d-printed-meat.md), [lab-grown meat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lab-grown-meat.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [whistleblower](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whistleblower.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Knighting Ceremony and No Agenda Meetups (3:04:04–3:12:03)

The show concludes with a formal knighting ceremony for top donors and the awarding of the No Agenda Peace Prize. Upcoming listener meetups are announced for locations including Spokane, the Netherlands, and various cities across California and North Carolina.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [peace prize](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peace-prize.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [spokane](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spokane.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/36.md)

### 37. John's Tip of the Day and Show Outro (3:12:03–3:23:21)

John C. Dvorak provides a "Tip of the Day" recommending Frank's Red Hot sauce as a versatile condiment and the essential base for authentic buffalo wing sauce. The episode closes with a series of listener-produced "end of show mixes" and holiday greetings.

Keywords: frank's red hot, [hot sauce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hot-sauce.md), buffalo wings, [tabasco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tabasco.md), [end of show mix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/end-of-show-mix.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1820-tokyo-rose/chapter/37.md)

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