# Hamburger Wine

> A proposed federal dividend from trade tariffs meets a high-stakes Gaza peace plan as the White House faces backlash over National Guard federalization and refinery explosions.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1805
- **Published:** 2025-10-05
- **Length:** 3h 5m
- **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host)
- **Topics:** Tariff Dividend, Gaza Peace, Chevron Explosion, Discord CEO, Hamburger Wine, [Epstein Files](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epstein-files.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine

## About this episode

Donald Trump proposed a dividend for the American people funded by a projected $1 trillion in tariff revenue during a recent interview with OAN. The former president claims this income will address the $36 trillion national debt while pressuring Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with a 20-point Gaza peace proposal. Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff have reportedly traveled to Cairo to finalize hostage negotiations as the administration adopts a more aggressive stance toward Israeli military objectives.

Senator John Kennedy criticized Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over a looming government shutdown, citing wasteful USAID spending on pastry classes in Haiti and medical procedures in Zambia. Meanwhile, Senator Tammy Duckworth condemned the federalization of the Illinois National Guard by the White House, following a shooting involving ICE agents in Chicago. In the private sector, Chevron faced a massive refinery explosion in El Segundo, California, while Publishers Clearing House reportedly entered bankruptcy. Federal authorities also announced the results of Operation Summer Heat, with Kash Patel reporting 8,700 arrests and the recovery of 1,000 child trafficking victims.

John C. Dvorak recommends the Robert Mondavi Private Selection Bourbon Barrel Aged Cabernet Sauvignon as the ultimate budget-friendly hamburger wine. The program also explores the appointment of Humaam Sakhnini as Discord CEO and the rise of the Gen Z 212 protest movement in Morocco. Between discussions of classical music pest control and the decline of late-night ratings for Jon Stewart, the hosts analyze the institutional shift at NPR regarding the terminology used for Gazans.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/transcript.md.

### 1. Texas Weather, Chemtrails, and Lyndon B. Johnson Park (0:00–1:30)

The hosts open the program noting the lack of chemtrails in Texas due to government funding constraints. They discuss the impact of the federal government shutdown on local parks, specifically questioning the status of Lyndon B. Johnson Park. The conversation characterizes Johnson City as a historical epicenter for political scams during the LBJ administration.

Keywords: [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [chemtrails](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chemtrails.md), [national park service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-park-service.md), lyndon b. johnson park, [johnson city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/johnson-city.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/1.md)

### 2. John Kennedy, Ocasio-Cortez, and Wasteful Budget Spending (1:31–5:45)

Senator John Kennedy criticizes Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the "socialist wing" of the Democratic Party for threatening a government shutdown over removed budget items. Kennedy lists specific expenditures the GOP cut, including $3 million for medical procedures in Zambia and $3.6 million for pastry classes in Haiti. The hosts suggest these USAID funds often end up in private pockets rather than serving their stated purposes.

Keywords: [john kennedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kennedy.md), [alexandria ocasio-cortez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alexandria-ocasio-cortez.md), [usaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usaid.md), [budget](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budget.md), [government shutdown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/government-shutdown.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Kristen Welker, Epstein Files, and Shutdown Red Herrings (5:46–7:39)

NBC News host Kristen Welker questions Speaker Mike Johnson regarding Democratic claims that the House is out of session to prevent the swearing-in of a senator who would vote to release the Jeffrey Epstein files. Johnson dismisses the Epstein connection as a red herring, blaming Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer for the impasse. The hosts mock the repetitive nature of shutdown political theater.

Keywords: [kristen welker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kristen-welker.md), [jeffrey epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-epstein.md), [chuck schumer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-schumer.md), [mike johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-johnson.md), [house of representatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-of-representatives.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Federal Worker Firing Threats, Hakeem Jeffries, and DOGE (7:43–10:53)

White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt discusses the administration's efforts to identify non-essential federal agencies, while unions file lawsuits over the legality of firing threats during a shutdown. Representative Hakeem Jeffries claims the administration has been violating the law by laying off workers since day one. The hosts note that despite the rhetoric, Treasury data shows government spending and hiring have actually increased.

Keywords: [hakeem jeffries](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hakeem-jeffries.md), [caroline leavitt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/caroline-leavitt.md), [doge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/doge.md), [federal employees](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-employees.md), department of treasury

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Senate Funding Impasse, John Thune, and NPR Funding (10:54–14:12)

NPR reports on the Senate's failure to advance competing plans to end the government shutdown, with Republicans proposing funding through November 21st and Democrats seeking an October extension. Senate Majority Leader John Thune indicates that COVID-era healthcare tax credits remain a major sticking point. The hosts criticize NPR for failing to disclose that their own federal funding is a subject of the budget negotiations.

Keywords: [john thune](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-thune.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md), [continuing resolution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/continuing-resolution.md), [federal funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-funding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Targeted Spending Cuts, Bernie Sanders, and Shutdown Loopholes (14:12–17:43)

The administration is accused of targeting spending cuts in areas with high Democratic voter concentrations, such as transportation projects in New York. Senator Bernie Sanders labels these tactics unconstitutional and illegal, while the White House blames Chuck Schumer for the halted projects. An anecdote is shared regarding how some national parks remain accessible during the shutdown via gate codes obtained prior to the closure.

Keywords: [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [chuck schumer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-schumer.md), [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md), transportation projects, [federal funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-funding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Donald Trump OAN Interview, Tariffs, and National Debt (17:44–20:47)

Donald Trump grants an interview to OAN where he proposes a "dividend to the people" of $1,000 to $2,000 funded by tariff revenue. Trump claims that unprecedented tariff income, projected to exceed $1 trillion, will allow the U.S. to grow its way out of the $36 trillion national debt. The hosts analyze Trump's repetitive speech patterns and his claims regarding the country's leverage.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [oan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oan.md), [tariffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tariffs.md), [national debt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-debt.md), [dividend](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dividend.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Publishers Clearing House Bankruptcy, Trump Commemorative Coin (20:49–22:18)

The hosts discuss the reported bankruptcy of Publishers Clearing House and the loss of benefits for long-term winners. They also examine a Treasury Department plan to mint a $1 commemorative coin featuring Donald Trump's profile for the U.S. 250th anniversary. The coin's design reportedly includes the "Fight! Fight! Fight!" imagery from the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt.

Keywords: publishers clearing house, [treasury department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasury-department.md), commemorative coin, [bankruptcy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bankruptcy.md), [250th anniversary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/250th-anniversary.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Tammy Duckworth, National Guard Federalization, and Chicago Crime (22:19–25:56)

Senator Tammy Duckworth criticizes the federalization of 300 Illinois National Guardsmen against Governor J.B. Pritzker's wishes. Duckworth argues the move is a misuse of the Guard and accuses the administration of defunding the police by diverting $800 million in crime prevention funds. The hosts compare Duckworth's speaking style to Mazie Hirono and discuss the history of police corruption in Chicago.

Keywords: tammy duckworth, [national guard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-guard.md), [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), [j.b. pritzker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/j-b-pritzker.md), [federalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federalization.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Traffic Stop Anecdotes, Bribing Cops, and Texas License Plates (25:57–28:16)

A host recounts a historical anecdote about avoiding a ticket in Chicago because the officer assumed a California driver wouldn't know how to properly execute a bribe. A second story involves a recent traffic stop in Texas where a driver was warned about the lack of a front license plate. The hosts discuss the regional differences in law enforcement behavior and the ongoing debate over front license plate requirements in Texas.

Keywords: [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [bribery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bribery.md), [license plates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/license-plates.md), highway patrol

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/10.md)

### 11. ICE Shooting in Chicago, Protest Documentation, and Federal Tactics (28:16–30:44)

Senator Tammy Duckworth discusses an incident where ICE agents shot a woman in Chicago's Brighton Park, claiming the administration is lying about the details. Secretary Kristi Noem defends the agents, stating they fired defensive shots after being surrounded. Duckworth encourages protesters to videotape all interactions with federal agents to document alleged aggressive tactics, including the use of zip ties on children.

Keywords: [ice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ice.md), [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), [kristi noem](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kristi-noem.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), [federal agents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-agents.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Stephen Miller, Memphis Crime, and Tourette's Observations (30:44–34:58)

The hosts observe physical tics in Stephen Miller, suggesting he may have Tourette Syndrome based on their personal experience with the condition. Miller is heard pledging "all of government" support to the Memphis Police Department to combat gangs and drug cartels. He promises that federal agents from the ATF, DEA, and FBI will work "shoulder to shoulder" with local cops to liberate the city from criminal elements.

Keywords: [stephen miller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-miller.md), [memphis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/memphis.md), [tourette syndrome](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tourette-syndrome.md), [law enforcement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law-enforcement.md), [violent crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/violent-crime.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Kash Patel, Operation Summer Heat, and Crime Statistics (34:59–37:54)

Kash Patel unveils the results of "Operation Summer Heat," a three-month FBI surge targeting violent crime in 55 field offices. The operation reportedly resulted in 8,700 arrests, 2,000 indictments, and the seizure of 421 kilograms of fentanyl. Patel also highlights the recovery of nearly 1,000 child victims of sexual trafficking and abuse during the surge.

Keywords: [kash patel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kash-patel.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), operation summer heat, [fentanyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fentanyl.md), [human trafficking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-trafficking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Global Drug Trade, East India Company, and Downton Abbey (37:55–39:30)

The hosts connect modern drug trafficking to historical precedents, citing the East India Company's role in the Opium Wars. They reference the final season of Downton Abbey to illustrate the decline of the British elite whose wealth was built on illicit trade. The discussion suggests that the global economy remains heavily dependent on the illicit drug trade and that historical animosities toward American success persist.

Keywords: east india company, [opium wars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opium-wars.md), downton abbey, drug economy, [city of london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-of-london.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Bertrand Russell, Scientific Dictatorship, and Mass Psychology (39:31–42:00)

Promethean Action analysts review Bertrand Russell's 1951 work, "The Impact of Science on Society," which predicted a future scientific dictatorship. Russell described using education and propaganda to produce "unshakable convictions" in children, such as the idea that snow is black. The hosts compare these historical theories to modern educational initiatives like Common Core and the influence of Bill Gates.

Keywords: bertrand russell, mass psychology, scientific dictatorship, [indoctrination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indoctrination.md), promethean action

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Classical Music for Pest Control, Scott Adams, and Pop Propaganda (42:00–44:25)

A host shares a tip about playing 24/7 classical music to keep pests out of a home using subsonic frequencies from large woofers. They recount a conversation with Scott Adams, who avoids pop music because he views it as subconsciously designed propaganda. The discussion touches on the violent themes and repetitive beats in modern hip-hop as a form of societal conditioning.

Keywords: [scott adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-adams.md), [classical music](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/classical-music.md), [pest control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pest-control.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [hip-hop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hip-hop.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Aldous Huxley, Pharmacological Revolution, and Doom Scrolling (44:25–45:46)

The hosts examine Aldous Huxley's 1961 warnings about a "painless concentration camp" where societies enjoy their loss of liberty through pharmacological distraction. They link this to the modern prevalence of drugs like Adderall and Ritalin, as well as the psychological impact of "doom scrolling." The segment references Neil Postman's "Amusing Ourselves to Death" as a framework for understanding modern technological addiction.

Keywords: [aldous huxley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aldous-huxley.md), [brainwashing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brainwashing.md), [pharmacology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmacology.md), [neil postman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-postman.md), [adderall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adderall.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/17.md)

### 18. George Soros, Drug Decriminalization, and British Finance (45:46–47:19)

The discussion focuses on George Soros's career and his alleged ties to major British financiers and the Rothschild family. Soros is criticized for using his Drug Policy Institute to manufacture a belief that the War on Drugs is a waste of money. The hosts also claim that Soros and USAID have supported drug cartels in Latin America to destabilize nationalist governments, citing a photo of a New York Stock Exchange head with a FARC leader.

Keywords: [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md), drug policy institute, [rothschild](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rothschild.md), [usaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usaid.md), [farc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/farc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Venezuela Drug Boat Strikes, Obama Kill List, and International Law (47:20–51:07)

The U.S. military has conducted several strikes on drug smuggling boats off the coast of Venezuela, leading to debates over the legality of treating cartel members as enemy combatants. The hosts compare these actions to President Obama's "kill list" and the use of "double tap" drone strikes in sovereign nations. They argue that the current criticism of Trump's maritime strikes is hypocritical given the history of previous administrations' extrajudicial killings.

Keywords: [venezuela](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/venezuela.md), [drug cartels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-cartels.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [drone strikes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drone-strikes.md), [international law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/international-law.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Christopher Sabatini, Chatham House, and Narco-Terrorism (51:07–54:40)

Christopher Sabatini of Chatham House analyzes the Trump administration's declaration of war against drug cartels, arguing it is an attempt to bypass due process for civilians. Sabatini suggests the strikes violate international norms and the War Powers Act. The hosts highlight Sabatini's extensive ties to elite institutions like Columbia and Harvard, viewing him as a representative of the "British invasion" in U.S. policy.

Keywords: christopher sabatini, [chatham house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chatham-house.md), [nicolas maduro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicolas-maduro.md), [narco-terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/narco-terrorism.md), [war powers act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war-powers-act.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Nicolas Maduro, Cocaine Trans-shipment, and Regime Change (54:40–59:15)

The Trump administration offers a $50 million bounty for Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, accusing him of leading the "Cartel de los Soles." Expert Christopher Sabatini disputes the U.S. narrative, claiming Venezuela is merely a trans-shipment point for Colombian cocaine primarily bound for Europe. The hosts question Sabatini's specific knowledge of Venezuelan airspace and suggest the U.S. is using drug enforcement as a pretext for regime change.

Keywords: [nicolas maduro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicolas-maduro.md), [cocaine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cocaine.md), [colombia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colombia.md), [regime change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/regime-change.md), [cartel de los soles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cartel-de-los-soles.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Pentagon Drug Boat Video, Pete Hegseth, and Media Coverage (59:15–1:02:30)

Secretary Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon release video of a military strike on a suspected drug vessel, claiming intelligence confirmed it was trafficking narcotics. The administration asserts that drug smugglers are unlawful combatants, while critics demand more evidence of the cargo. The hosts note that these military operations receive significantly less mainstream media coverage than the government shutdown or celebrity scandals.

Keywords: [pete hegseth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pete-hegseth.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [cocaine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cocaine.md), [fentanyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fentanyl.md), [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Nick Fuentes, Media Ownership, and Anti-Israel Rhetoric (1:02:30–1:04:39)

The hosts critique Nick Fuentes' claims regarding Jewish control of major media platforms and social media. They argue that Fuentes is likely an "op" designed to fuel antisemitism, which they link to historical British strategies in the Middle East. The discussion explores the danger of the "Zionists run everything" narrative and its prevalence in modern political discourse.

Keywords: [nick fuentes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nick-fuentes.md), [media ownership](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-ownership.md), [zionism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zionism.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [antisemitism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antisemitism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Madison Grant, European Union, and Podcast Grifting (1:04:40–1:06:14)

The conversation touches on Madison Grant's "The Passing of the Great Race" and its influence on historical fascist ideologies. The hosts compare the current structure of the European Union under Ursula von der Leyen to a "Nazi party dream." They introduce the term "podcast grift" to describe creators who lean into anti-Israel rhetoric to capture specific audiences and avoid losing donations.

Keywords: madison grant, [eugenics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eugenics.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [ursula von der leyen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ursula-von-der-leyen.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Theo Von, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and the "Not Suicidal" Disclaimer (1:06:16–1:09:14)

Podcasters like Theo Von and politicians like Marjorie Taylor Greene have begun publicly stating they are "not suicidal" when criticizing Israel. The hosts analyze this trend as a form of "audience capture," where creators feel pressured to adopt extreme stances to maintain their following. They argue that the binary choice between being "pro-Israel" or "anti-Zionist" is a false narrative used for financial gain.

Keywords: [theo von](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theo-von.md), [marjorie taylor greene](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marjorie-taylor-greene.md), [candace owens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/candace-owens.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [audience capture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audience-capture.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/25.md)

### 26. AIPAC, Foreign Lobbying, and Marjorie Taylor Greene's "America Only" (1:09:14–1:13:14)

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene tells Matt Gaetz on OAN that AIPAC should register as a foreign lobbyist for its influence on Congress. Greene criticizes the billions in aid sent to Israel while Americans struggle with debt, rent, and inflation. She adopts an "America Only" stance, vowing to fight AIPAC's influence even if it means "burning bridges" in Washington.

Keywords: [aipac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aipac.md), [marjorie taylor greene](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marjorie-taylor-greene.md), [matt gaetz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-gaetz.md), [foreign aid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foreign-aid.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Gaza Peace Proposal, Arab Nation Cooperation, and Netanyahu Pressure (1:13:14–1:17:11)

Donald Trump thanks Arab nations including Qatar, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia for their help in brokering a 20-point peace proposal for Gaza. Trump exerts pressure on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by publicly posting maps of proposed withdrawal lines and highlighting Israeli protesters demanding an end to the war. The hosts suggest Trump is effectively "trolling" Netanyahu to force a resolution.

Keywords: [benjamin netanyahu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benjamin-netanyahu.md), [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md), [qatar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qatar.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [peace proposal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peace-proposal.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Jared Kushner, Cairo Negotiations, and Hamas Deadlines (1:17:12–1:18:43)

Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff travel to Cairo to negotiate a deal between Hamas and Israel for the release of hostages. Trump issues a warning on social media that Hamas must move quickly or "all bets are off." While the IDF has shifted to a defensive posture, Gaza health officials report that some strikes have continued.

Keywords: [jared kushner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jared-kushner.md), [hamas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamas.md), [cairo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cairo.md), [hostages](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hostages.md), [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Aaron David Miller, Presidential Pressure, and Netanyahu's Political Survival (1:18:43–1:23:08)

Former negotiator Aaron David Miller analyzes the unprecedented pressure Trump is placing on Netanyahu, comparing it to President Eisenhower's threats against David Ben-Gurion. Miller notes that Netanyahu cannot say no to Trump because he needs the president's support for his own political survival and future election campaigns. The goal is identified as ending the fighting and returning hostages, even if the underlying conflict remains unresolved.

Keywords: aaron david miller, [benjamin netanyahu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benjamin-netanyahu.md), [eisenhower](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eisenhower.md), [sanctions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanctions.md), [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Trump 2.0 vs 1.0, Humanitarian Aid, and Gaza Reconstruction (1:23:09–1:24:47)

Analysts contrast Trump's first term "sugar high" for Israel with his current "vinegar" approach of applying heavy pressure. The peace proposal includes provisions for an Arab stabilization force, humanitarian assistance, and the reconstruction of Gaza's infrastructure. Key issues remaining for negotiation include the decommissioning of Hamas weapons and providing secure water and medical care for two million Palestinians.

Keywords: [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md), [humanitarian aid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/humanitarian-aid.md), [reconstruction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reconstruction.md), [trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump.md), [middle east](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/middle-east.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Marco Rubio, Palestinian Statehood, and Security Conditions (1:24:48–1:28:38)

Secretary of State Marco Rubio addresses questions about the administration's support for Palestinian statehood, describing it as a long-term process rather than a "yes or no" question. Rubio emphasizes that statehood is impossible as long as Gaza is governed by Hamas or any group seeking Israel's destruction. The immediate priority remains the release of hostages and establishing security conditions that prevent future terrorism.

Keywords: [marco rubio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marco-rubio.md), palestinian statehood, [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md), [hamas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamas.md), [security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/31.md)

### 32. NPR Style Guide Shift, "Gazans" vs "Palestinians" (1:28:38–1:31:04)

The hosts notice a shift in NPR's terminology, where reporters have begun using the term "Gazans" instead of "Palestinians." They suggest this reflects a change in the official style guide, similar to the adoption of terms like "pregnant people." The discussion explores the potential political reasons for swapping these identifiers in news coverage of the conflict.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [style guide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/style-guide.md), gazans, [palestinians](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palestinians.md), [media terminology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-terminology.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Morocco Gen Z 212 Protests, FIFA World Cup Spending (1:31:05–1:33:56)

A youth coalition in Morocco, calling themselves "Gen Z 212," leads deadly anti-government protests over the diversion of billions into 2030 FIFA World Cup infrastructure. Protesters demand better healthcare and education, claiming the government is neglecting domestic needs. The hosts compare the movement's organization to the BLM riots, noting the presence of agitators among peaceful demonstrators.

Keywords: [morocco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/morocco.md), gen z 212, [fifa world cup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fifa-world-cup.md), [public services](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-services.md), [protests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/protests.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Global Gen Z Revolutions, Social Media, and Corruption (1:33:57–1:36:32)

France 24 reports on a wave of "Gen Z revolutions" across Asia and Africa, including Kenya, Nepal, and the Philippines. These movements are organized via platforms like Discord and Telegram, targeting government corruption, unemployment, and high living costs. In Nepal, outrage was fueled by social media posts showing the luxurious lifestyles of politicians' children while the general population suffers from inequality.

Keywords: [kenya](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kenya.md), [nepal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nepal.md), [philippines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philippines.md), [madagascar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/madagascar.md), [gen z](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gen-z.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Discord CEO Transition, Humaam Sakhnini, and Intelligence Ops (1:36:32–1:40:36)

The hosts analyze the appointment of Humaam Sakhnini as the new CEO of Discord, highlighting his background with the Canadian Department of Finance, McKinsey, and Activision Blizzard. They suggest Sakhnini is a "spook" or intelligence operative linked to the City of London. The discussion posits that Discord's emergence as a platform for global revolutions is a coordinated effort by British intelligence to disrupt the BRICS nations.

Keywords: [discord](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/discord.md), humaam sakhnini, [mckinsey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mckinsey.md), [city of london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-of-london.md), [intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/35.md)

### 36. European Drone Wall, Munich Airport, and Israel-Ukraine Tech (1:40:36–1:42:55)

Munich Airport resumes flights after multiple drone sightings caused shutdowns, which the German Interior Minister describes as a "race" between threats and defense. Germany calls for a European-level "drone wall" developed in cooperation with Israel and Ukraine. The hosts characterize the drone sightings as a potential psyop to justify increased military spending and technological integration.

Keywords: munich airport, [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), drone wall, [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Ursula von der Leyen, AI Continent, and Medical Innovation (1:42:56–1:45:26)

EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen pledges to make Europe an "AI continent," emphasizing the technology's potential for early cancer diagnosis and drug discovery. She dismisses skeptics who say Europe is late to the AI race, promising to spare no effort in attracting talent. The hosts mock her rhetoric, suggesting the "AI race" is a scam and noting that much of the underlying technology is American-owned.

Keywords: [ursula von der leyen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ursula-von-der-leyen.md), [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), medical discovery, [oracle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oracle.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/37.md)

### 38. OpenAI Sora 2 App, Face Scanning, and Parental Controls (1:45:35–1:50:52)

OpenAI announces the Sora 2 app, which allows users to create hyper-realistic AI-generated videos of themselves. Wired Magazine reports on the app's potential to unlock video generation for the masses, while also highlighting new parental controls and copyright restrictions. The hosts argue the app is a data-harvesting tool designed to collect fresh facial and video content for OpenAI's models.

Keywords: [openai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/openai.md), sora 2, [sam altman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-altman.md), [wired](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wired.md), face scanning

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/38.md)

### 39. AI Content Saturation, Recruitment Hallucinations, and Phone Addiction (1:50:53–1:56:54)

The hosts debate the long-term viability of AI video apps, with one predicting Sora 2 will overtake TikTok due to human ego and the "selfie" culture. They discuss the failure of an AI recruitment firm in Austin that struggled with "hallucinations" in matching candidates. The conversation touches on the addictive nature of smartphones and the potential for the internet to be filled with "AI slop."

Keywords: [sam altman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-altman.md), [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [hallucinations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hallucinations.md), [recruitment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recruitment.md), [selfies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/selfies.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Spotify AI Song Deletion, Music Royalties, and Ad Fraud (1:56:54–2:00:11)

Spotify reportedly deleted 75 million songs from its catalog to prevent AI-generated tracks from diluting royalties for major publishing companies. The hosts discuss the "shakeout" in the podcast and music industries as advertisers become wary of being "fleeced" by AI-generated content. They predict a return to human-centric content as users grow tired of navigating through AI-generated news and music.

Keywords: [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [ai music](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-music.md), [royalties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/royalties.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [publishing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/publishing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Podcast Discovery, Decentralization, and Show Longevity (2:00:12–2:03:44)

The hosts celebrate nearly 18 years of the No Agenda show, emphasizing the benefits of the decentralized podcasting ecosystem. They argue that the lack of a central discovery algorithm protects the medium from AI-generated "slop" and manipulation. Listeners are encouraged to use modern podcast apps from podcastapps.com to ensure they receive live notifications and chapter support.

Keywords: [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [decentralization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/decentralization.md), [discovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/discovery.md), [18th anniversary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/18th-anniversary.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Value for Value, AI Art, and Model Collapse (2:03:45–2:08:14)

The program's "Value for Value" model is explained, where listeners contribute time, talent, or treasure. The hosts review recent AI-generated artwork submitted by producers, noting signs of "model collapse" and "muddy" images. They provide tips for artists on using Photoshop to enhance their submissions and maintain the quality of the No Agenda Art Generator.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [ai art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-art.md), [model collapse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/model-collapse.md), [photoshop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/photoshop.md), [no agenda art generator](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art-generator.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Executive Producer Credits, Water Well Advice, and Meetup Reports (2:08:16–2:17:45)

The hosts thank high-level donors, granting titles such as Secretary General and Knight. A donor from Illinois asks for advice on increasing water pressure for a private well, leading to a discussion about pump towers and windmills. Meetup reports from Indiana and Colorado are shared, and the "peerage committee" approves several new titles for long-term supporters.

Keywords: [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), water wells, [illinois](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illinois.md), [indiana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indiana.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Jon Stewart, Jimmy Kimmel, and Late Night Ratings (2:17:46–2:19:28)

The hosts discuss the declining relevance and ratings of late-night talk shows, specifically mentioning Jon Stewart and Jimmy Kimmel. They suggest these hosts are desperate for attention and that their networks are struggling to make the high-budget formats profitable. The segment mocks the idea that these shows still hold significant cultural influence.

Keywords: [jon stewart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jon-stewart.md), [jimmy kimmel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-kimmel.md), [late night](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/late-night.md), [ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ratings.md), [comedy central](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comedy-central.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Chevron El Segundo Refinery Explosion, California Exit (2:19:28–2:22:27)

A massive explosion at the Chevron refinery in El Segundo, California, sends a fireball into the sky and blankets LAX in smoke. The facility supplies 40% of Southern California's jet fuel and 20% of its motor vehicle fuel. The hosts speculate that the incident might be a "suspicious" precursor to Chevron completely exiting the state of California for insurance or regulatory reasons.

Keywords: [chevron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chevron.md), el segundo, refinery explosion, [jet fuel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jet-fuel.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Chevron Maintenance, Rust-Colored Paint, and Cost Analysis (2:22:28–2:24:55)

A host shares an anecdote from their time as an inspector at a Chevron refinery, comparing their maintenance practices to Union Oil. While Union Oil painted their tanks in pastel colors, Chevron's cost analysis showed it was cheaper to let tanks rust and replace them than to maintain the paint. To solve the aesthetic problem of rusted tanks, Chevron eventually began painting them a "rust color" to blend in.

Keywords: [chevron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chevron.md), [maintenance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maintenance.md), cost analysis, [refinery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/refinery.md), [union oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/union-oil.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Sean "Diddy" Combs Sentencing, Mann Act, and Legal Disparity (2:24:57–2:28:28)

Sean "Diddy" Combs is sentenced to four years and two months in prison for Mann Act violations related to prostitution. While he was acquitted of more serious sex trafficking and racketeering charges, the sentence is lower than the five to seven years recommended by the probation department. The hosts contrast this relatively light sentence with the 10-year sentence given to an ER doctor for a Medicare scam.

Keywords: [sean combs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sean-combs.md), [diddy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diddy.md), mann act, [sentencing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sentencing.md), [legal system](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legal-system.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Long COVID Roundtable, RFK Jr, and NIH Funding (2:28:28–2:35:02)

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. holds a roundtable to address Long COVID, noting that $1.5 billion in NIH funding has yielded few results. Researchers and advocates call for a broader strategy, including biomarkers for diagnosis and increased participation from the pharmaceutical industry. The hosts express skepticism, suggesting "Long COVID" is a catch-all term used to maintain public focus on the virus and secure more funding.

Keywords: [long covid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/long-covid.md), [robert f. kennedy jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-f-kennedy-jr.md), [nih](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nih.md), [hhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hhs.md), [clinical trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinical-trials.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Long COVID Childhood Illness Claims, Disability Insurance (2:35:03–2:38:26)

Advocates claim that Long COVID has surpassed asthma as the most common childhood illness in the United States. The discussion at the HHS roundtable focuses on the need for the FDA to rapidly approve treatments so that disabled Americans can qualify for insurance coverage. The hosts question the data behind these claims, particularly regarding the prevalence of the condition in children.

Keywords: [long covid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/long-covid.md), [asthma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/asthma.md), childhood illness, [disability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disability.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Taylor Swift Speech Analysis, Harvard Drag Queen Professor (2:38:27–2:41:55)

Researchers at the University of Minnesota analyze Taylor Swift's speech patterns, noting how her accent shifted from Southern to Pennsylvania to a lower pitch as her career evolved. The hosts mock the study as a misuse of tuition funds. They also discuss Harvard's hiring of a drag queen as a visiting professor for gender and sexuality studies, viewing it as a sign of institutional decline.

Keywords: [taylor swift](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taylor-swift.md), [university of minnesota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-minnesota.md), [harvard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harvard.md), [drag queen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drag-queen.md), [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Bucky's Travel Plaza Controversy, Local Government Accountability (2:41:55–2:43:57)

A proposal to build a Bucky's Travel Plaza in Southern Colorado sparks intense local controversy, leading to officials losing their jobs. The hosts use the story to illustrate a broader trend of local officials becoming unresponsive to their communities' petitions and concerns. They encourage listeners to get involved in local government to restore accountability.

Keywords: bucky's, [colorado](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado.md), [local government](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/local-government.md), [city council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-council.md), [petitions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/petitions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/51.md)

### 52. Final Donor Thank-Yous, Peerage Induction, and Sign-off (2:43:57–2:51:23)

The hosts complete the "Value for Value" segment by thanking the remaining donors and performing a knighthood ceremony for Sir John of the Techni Basin. They provide information on how to receive signet rings and certificates for those inducted into the peerage. The show concludes with a reminder of upcoming meetups and the next live broadcast date.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [sign-off](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sign-off.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/52.md)

### 53. Global Meetup Schedule, Indiana and Los Angeles Reports (2:51:24–2:55:04)

Detailed reports from recent No Agenda meetups in Los Angeles and Indiana are shared, featuring audio clips from attendees. The hosts read a long list of upcoming meetups scheduled for October and November in locations including Texas, North Carolina, Michigan, and international cities like Berlin and Leiden. Listeners are encouraged to visit noagendameetups.com to find or start local gatherings.

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [indiana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indiana.md), [los angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-angeles.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/53.md)

### 54. John C. Dvorak's Wine Tip, Robert Mondavi Private Selection (2:55:04–3:01:13)

John C. Dvorak provides a "Tip of the Day" regarding Robert Mondavi Private Selection Bourbon Barrel Aged Cabernet Sauvignon. He describes it as a high-quality "hamburger wine" available for around $10 to $12 that features a distinct oaky character. Dvorak explains the history of the Mondavi "Private Selection" label and recommends it for those who enjoy dark, well-made California wines at a budget price.

Keywords: wine tip, robert mondavi, [cabernet sauvignon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cabernet-sauvignon.md), bourbon barrel, oak

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/54.md)

### 55. End of Show Mix, "Born to Slop" Montage, and Final Credits (3:01:14–3:05:45)

The episode concludes with a custom audio mix featuring clips of political figures discussing the "omnibus" and a satirical montage titled "Born to Slop." The hosts give their final sign-offs from Texas and Silicon Valley, reminding listeners to support the show via noagendadonations.com. The final segment index marks the official end of episode 1805.

Keywords: [show mix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-mix.md), [omnibus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/omnibus.md), [slop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slop.md), [adios mofos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adios-mofos.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1805-hamburger-wine/chapter/55.md)

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