# Hate of Speech

> Federal regulators target broadcast licenses over news distortion while the Trump administration rolls out a million-dollar residency program and high-fee visa reforms to protect American workers.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1801
- **Published:** 2025-09-21
- **Length:** 3h 30m
- **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host)
- **Topics:** FCC enforcement, Trump Gold Card, H-1B reform, [Artemis 2](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artemis-2.md), UK speech laws, CDC panel, Disney boycott
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech

## About this episode

FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr signaled a potential regulatory crackdown on broadcast licensees following Jimmy Kimmel’s controversial monologue regarding the death of Charlie Kirk. Carr warned that local affiliates for ABC and Comcast must uphold public interest obligations or face significant fines and license revocations for news distortion. The move comes as Disney faces a massive subscriber boycott and declining late-night ratings, with critics like Senator Rand Paul questioning the use of federal agencies to target specific media networks.

In the United Kingdom, commentator Katie Hopkins was arrested for online communications while police conducted home visits to investigate upsetting social media posts. Back in the United States, the Trump administration announced a $100,000 H-1B visa fee hike to protect domestic labor and introduced the Trump Gold Card program for expedited residency. Meanwhile, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. influenced a CDC vaccine advisory panel in Atlanta to narrow COVID-19 booster recommendations and address seizure risks associated with the MMRV shot. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth also implemented new Pentagon credentialing rules, requiring journalists to sign non-disclosure pledges for unclassified information.

NASA’s reliance on ham radio volunteers for the Artemis 2 mission drew skepticism from Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak, who questioned the technical necessity of amateur operators for a multi-billion dollar lunar project. The duo also explored the "demon filter" audio isolation of Anna Navarro and the irony of Governor Gavin Newsom banning masks for ICE agents. The episode concludes with a knighting ceremony for Sir Joseph, Lord of the Central Jersey Swamps, and a wine tip regarding Costco’s Moscato D’Asti.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/transcript.md.

### 1. Charlie Kirk Memorial, Christian Contemporary Music, and Top 40 Pop (0:00–5:43)

The discussion opens with a look at the memorial service for Charlie Kirk, noting the use of bagpipes and the presence of major Christian contemporary artists like Chris Tomlin, Brandon Lake, and Phil Wickham. Comparisons are made between the "God business" and mainstream pop music, specifically criticizing the memorability of songs by Taylor Swift, Rihanna, and Halsey. The hosts reflect on the massive attendance at these events in Austin, Texas.

Keywords: [charlie kirk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-kirk.md), [taylor swift](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taylor-swift.md), [rihanna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rihanna.md), halsey, chris tomlin, brandon lake, phil wickham

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Gmail Newsletter Delivery Issues, ProtonMail, and Early Internet Reliability (5:44–8:34)

A technical discussion ensues regarding the selective failure of Gmail to deliver the show's newsletter, leading to a recommendation for users to switch to ProtonMail or FastMail. An anecdote follows about the early 1980s and the Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), where a column written for DEC Professional won a Computer Press Association award. The segment touches on the historical unreliability of email dating back to the ARPANET era.

Keywords: [gmail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gmail.md), [protonmail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/protonmail.md), fastmail, [alphabet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alphabet.md), [digital equipment corporation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-equipment-corporation.md), [arpanet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arpanet.md), computer press association

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Fredericksburg Tea Party Gala, Boots and Barbecue, and Texas Politicians (8:35–16:17)

A report from a local Fredericksburg, Texas event called "Boots and Barbecue" highlights the activities of the Fredericksburg Tea Party. The gala featured speaker Alex Newman discussing Agenda 2030 and Common Core, and was attended by political figures including Chip Roy and Kyle Biederman. The narrative includes a description of Matt Long, who portrays Benjamin Franklin in public schools, and a critique of the fundraising mechanics of political galas.

Keywords: [fredericksburg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fredericksburg.md), [matt long](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-long.md), [benjamin franklin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benjamin-franklin.md), alex Newman, [chip roy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chip-roy.md), kyle biederman, [gun owners of america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-owners-of-america.md), [moms for liberty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moms-for-liberty.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Jimmy Kimmel, Ted Cruz, and the Charlie Kirk Murder Narrative (16:18–22:33)

The conversation shifts to the controversy surrounding Jimmy Kimmel's comments about the murder of Charlie Kirk and the subsequent reactions from conservatives like Ted Cruz. Cruz's podcast performance is critiqued for its "Mafioso" tone. The segment analyzes Kimmel's monologue, which suggested the perpetrator was not part of the MAGA movement, and mocks President Biden's reaction to the news during a press encounter.

Keywords: [jimmy kimmel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-kimmel.md), [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), [charlie kirk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-kirk.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [maga](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maga.md), [goodfellas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goodfellas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/4.md)

### 5. FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr, Broadcast Licensing, and News Distortion (22:33–31:09)

FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr appears on the Benny Johnson podcast to discuss potential regulatory actions against broadcasters like ABC due to Jimmy Kimmel's conduct. The discussion explains the legal obligations of broadcast licensees to serve the "public interest" and the value of the public spectrum. Carr suggests that local affiliates should push back against national networks like Disney and Comcast to avoid license revocation or fines for news distortion.

Keywords: [brendan carr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brendan-carr.md), [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [benny johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benny-johnson.md), [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md), [comcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comcast.md), broadcast spectrum, [licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/licensing.md), news distortion

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Broadcast Hoax Rules, Prior Restraint, and FCC Enforcement (31:12–36:15)

The legal framework for FCC enforcement is examined, specifically the "hoax rule" (47 CFR 73.1217) regarding the broadcast of false information. Brendan Carr clarifies on CNBC that while cable and podcasts are exempt, broadcast TV has unique obligations. The segment addresses the concept of prior restraint and the historical precedent of the Pentagon Papers case in relation to government control over media.

Keywords: [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), 47 cfr 73.1217, broadcast hoax, news distortion, [brendan carr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brendan-carr.md), [cnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnbc.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Disney-NFL Deal, Local Affiliates, and Late Night Ratings Decline (36:15–40:12)

An analysis of the business relationship between networks and local affiliates reveals a significant decline in late-night television audiences. Disney's potential acquisition of NFL networks via ESPN is identified as a complicating factor in their regulatory standing. The hosts suggest that networks like ABC and NBC are losing millions on shows hosted by Kimmel and Colbert, making reruns of older content like "Hogan's Heroes" potentially more profitable.

Keywords: [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md), [espn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espn.md), [nfl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nfl.md), nexstar, sinclair, [jimmy kimmel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-kimmel.md), [stephen colbert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-colbert.md), [hogan's heroes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hogan-s-heroes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Rand Paul on Censorship, Donald Trump, and Free Speech (40:13–43:37)

Senator Rand Paul discusses free speech and government censorship during an interview with NBC's Kristen Welker. Paul criticizes the Biden administration's use of the FBI and DHS to pressure social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter to remove content. While Paul supports Trump's efforts to dismantle the "censorship office," he expresses concern over using the FCC to target specific networks.

Keywords: [rand paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [kristen welker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kristen-welker.md), [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Disney Boycott, TikTok Protests, and Cynthia Nixon (43:37–47:40)

A growing boycott against Disney, Hulu, and Disney+ is highlighted through social media clips, including a viral TikTok and a statement from actress Cynthia Nixon. Protesters cite the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel and perceived government interference as violations of the First Amendment. The segment explores the financial repercussions for Disney as fans cancel subscriptions and annual passes.

Keywords: [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md), [hulu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hulu.md), [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), cynthia nixon, [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), abbott elementary, [jimmy kimmel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-kimmel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Katie Hopkins Arrest, UK Speech Laws, and Police Home Visits (47:40–51:41)

British commentator Katie Hopkins reveals she was arrested and interviewed under caution in the UK for "online communications" related to her live stream, "The Katie's Arms." A separate clip features a police officer visiting an American citizen's home in the UK to investigate an "upsetting" Facebook comment. The discussion centers on the lack of First Amendment protections in the UK and the potential risks for Americans traveling through Heathrow.

Keywords: [katie hopkins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/katie-hopkins.md), [laura logan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/laura-logan.md), [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), free speech union, [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [heathrow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heathrow.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Harvey Levin, TMZ, and the First Amendment "RIP" Teaser (51:42–55:17)

TMZ founder Harvey Levin is criticized for his staff's reaction to the Charlie Kirk murder and a subsequent segment teaser featuring "RIP" graphics for the First Amendment. The hosts mock Levin's physical stature and his perceived bias in media coverage. The segment touches on the performative nature of TMZ's reporting on the Jimmy Kimmel suspension.

Keywords: [harvey levin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harvey-levin.md), [tmz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tmz.md), [charlie kirk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-kirk.md), [greg gutfeld](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-gutfeld.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Pentagon Press Restrictions, Pete Hegseth, and the Uganda Times (55:18–1:04:54)

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has implemented new credentialing rules for journalists at the Pentagon, requiring them to sign pledges regarding the release of unclassified information. NPR and other outlets have denounced the measures as unconstitutional attacks on the freedom of the press. The discussion includes a humorous tangent about the state-owned "Uganda Times" and the decline of traditional investigative journalism.

Keywords: [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [pete hegseth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pete-hegseth.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [david folkenflik](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-folkenflik.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), uganda times, [prior restraint](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prior-restraint.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Netherlands Asylum Protests and the "Where's My Bike" Theme (1:04:55–1:06:39)

Widespread civil unrest in the Netherlands is reported, with thousands of protesters, including football supporter groups, demonstrating in The Hague against asylum policies. The segment mentions clashes with police and the setting of fires. A brief host aside references a long-running theme regarding stolen bicycles in the region.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [the hague](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-hague.md), [asylum seekers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/asylum-seekers.md), [protests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/protests.md), football supporters

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/13.md)

### 14. NASA Artemis 2 Mission, Ham Radio Volunteers, and Moon Landing Skepticism (1:06:41–1:18:26)

NASA's upcoming Artemis 2 mission is scrutinized, specifically the recruitment of amateur radio volunteers to track the spacecraft. The hosts express skepticism about the necessity of ham radio operators for a multi-billion dollar operation and revisit theories regarding the original moon landings. Technical details about X-band frequencies and the Doppler effect are discussed in the context of "hoax" theories.

Keywords: [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [artemis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artemis.md), [moon landing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon-landing.md), [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), k4kdr, doppler effect, [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), qrz

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Gaza Urban Renewal, Jared Kushner, and the "Riviera of the Middle East" (1:18:27–1:24:01)

Reports from Gaza detail the destruction of water wells and the deteriorating civilian situation. A controversial plan mentioned by Israeli Minister Bezelel Smotrich and previously floated by Jared Kushner suggests turning Gaza's waterfront into a "real estate bonanza" or a tourism resort. The segment explores the potential involvement of Arab nations like Saudi Arabia and Qatar in a future "trusteeship" for the territory.

Keywords: [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [jared kushner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jared-kushner.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), bezelel smotrich, [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/15.md)

### 16. H-1B Visa Fee Hike, Indian Tech Workers, and American Labor (1:24:02–1:28:04)

The Trump administration has announced an executive order raising the H-1B visa sponsorship fee to $100,000 annually. The move is intended to protect American workers and ensure only "extraordinary" talent is brought into the U.S. The Indian government and tech leaders like Elon Musk have expressed concern, while supporters argue it will force companies to hire and train domestic graduates.

Keywords: [h-1b visa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h-1b-visa.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [tech industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tech-industry.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), [fees](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fees.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Zoomer Workforce Skills and the Department of Education (1:28:05–1:30:12)

A listener letter from a 26-year-old carpenter describes the inability of new "Zoomer" hires to read a tape measure or understand basic fractions. This leads to a critique of the American education system and the legacy of the Department of Education, which the hosts trace back to the Carter administration.

Keywords: [zoomers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zoomers.md), trades, carpentry, tape measure, [department of education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-education.md), [jimmy carter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-carter.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Trump Gold Card, Residency Fees, and the "Oval Sesh" (1:30:11–1:36:48)

The "Trump Gold Card" program is introduced, offering expedited U.S. residency for a $1 million contribution and a "Platinum Card" for $5 million that offers tax advantages on non-U.S. income. The website, Trumpcard.gov, is described as having a highly professional, credit-card-style design. The segment also touches on Trump's "Oval Sesh" (session) and his use of modern slang like "sus."

Keywords: trump gold card, [green card](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-card.md), [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [residency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/residency.md), [taxes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxes.md), [ben carson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-carson.md), trumpcard.gov

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/18.md)

### 19. J6 Pardons, Ben Carson's Cornerstone Institute, and Autism Announcement (1:36:48–1:42:57)

Donald Trump criticizes Joe Biden's use of an "auto-pen" for pardons, specifically those related to the January 6th investigation, calling them illegal. During a gala for Ben Carson's American Cornerstone Institute, Trump teases a "major announcement" regarding autism and its rising prevalence, crediting Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for providing data on the subject.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), j6, [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [ben carson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-carson.md), [robert f. kennedy jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-f-kennedy-jr.md), [autism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/19.md)

### 20. CDC Vaccine Advisory Committee, RFK Jr., and "Theoretical Risks" (1:42:58–1:50:05)

The newly appointed CDC vaccine advisory panel, influenced by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., met in Atlanta to discuss changes to the vaccine schedule. Key decisions included narrowing COVID-19 booster recommendations and separating the measles/chickenpox combo shot due to seizure risks. NPR's coverage is criticized for using the term "theoretical risks" to describe documented side effects like myocarditis.

Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [robert f. kennedy jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-f-kennedy-jr.md), [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), mmrv, [chicken pox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicken-pox.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), pien huang

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/20.md)

### 21. NPR's Pien Huang, Podcasting Degrees, and Seizure Risks (1:50:06–1:55:08)

A background check on NPR correspondent Pien Huang reveals she is a "Reflect America" fellow and has taught podcasting at Northeastern University. The hosts mock the existence of a college minor in podcasting. The segment returns to the medical discussion, highlighting that the MMRV vaccine carries a higher risk of febrile seizures in children under four.

Keywords: pien huang, [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [northeastern university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/northeastern-university.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), mmrv, [seizures](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seizures.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Vaccine Data "Settled" Claims and Andrew Wakefield (1:55:08–2:02:00)

Medical experts like Dr. Jodi Guest of Emory University claim that vaccine data is "settled," a statement the hosts find contradictory to the ongoing debates. The discussion touches on the historical controversy surrounding Andrew Wakefield and the potential for future lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies if the link between vaccines and autism is officially acknowledged.

Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [robert f. kennedy jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-f-kennedy-jr.md), [emory university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emory-university.md), [hepatitis b](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hepatitis-b.md), [andrew wakefield](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-wakefield.md), [autism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/autism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Pearson Sharp, Matt Gaetz, and Russian Army Embeds (2:02:00–2:11:45)

OAN correspondent Pearson Sharp appears on Matt Gaetz's show to report from behind Russian lines in the Donbas region. Sharp claims that many soldiers fighting for Russia are actually conscripted Ukrainians who switched sides to fight against the "Zelensky regime." The hosts analyze Sharp's background, suggesting he may have "spook" (intelligence) characteristics due to his lack of a public biography.

Keywords: pearson sharp, [matt gaetz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-gaetz.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [donbas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donbas.md), [oan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oan.md), [kgb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kgb.md), [fsb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fsb.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Brussels Airport Outage, Collins Aerospace, and OS/2 Warp (2:11:45–2:15:53)

A major IT outage at Brussels Airport and other European hubs is attributed to software issues at Collins Aerospace, a defense contractor. The hosts speculate on whether this was a cyberattack or a competitive "hit job." This leads to an anecdote about the 1990s "OS/2 Warp" era and Steve Ballmer's alleged attempts to crash IBM's "crash-proof" operating system.

Keywords: brussels airport, [collins aerospace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/collins-aerospace.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [ibm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ibm.md), os/2 warp, [steve ballmer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-ballmer.md), [blue screen of death](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blue-screen-of-death.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Value for Value, Modern Podcast Apps, and Challenge Coins (2:15:54–2:27:59)

The hosts discuss the "Value for Value" funding model and the benefits of modern podcast apps over legacy platforms like Apple and Spotify. A listener named Nate offers to manufacture 33 custom challenge coins for the show through his family's casting company. The segment includes a critique of AI-generated show art and the importance of "taking pride in your work."

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md), [challenge coins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/challenge-coins.md), nate, [made in america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/made-in-america.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Executive Producer Credits and Knighting Ceremony (2:27:59–2:38:38)

The show acknowledges top donors, including Brandon Mango and Joshua Kaufelt, who are named Secretary Generals. A knighting ceremony is held for Sir Joseph, Lord of the Central Jersey Swamps. The hosts emphasize the "honor system" for tracking donations and thank various "Dames" and "Knights" for their financial support.

Keywords: [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), brandon mango, joshua kaufelt, [sir joseph](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sir-joseph.md), central jersey swamps

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Gavin Newsom, Mask Bans, and the "Biden Cadence" (2:38:38–2:42:27)

California Governor Gavin Newsom is criticized for adopting a "Biden-like" speaking cadence and for signing a law banning law enforcement, including ICE agents, from wearing masks on duty. Newsom characterized the use of masks by agents as a step toward "authoritarianism." The hosts point out the irony of the ban given California's previous mask mandates.

Keywords: [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [ice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ice.md), [masks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/masks.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [authoritarianism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/authoritarianism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/27.md)

### 28. TikTok Sale Deal, Shark Vacuum Robots, and Humanoid Robots (2:42:28–2:49:28)

Donald Trump claims to have reached a deal with Xi Jinping to preserve TikTok in the U.S., potentially involving a multi-billion dollar fee. The discussion transitions into a critique of humanoid robots like Optimus Prime, with the hosts arguing that functional robots like the Shark vacuum cleaner are far more practical than "humanoid" designs that waste energy on balance and aesthetics.

Keywords: [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [byte dance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/byte-dance.md), [xi jinping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xi-jinping.md), [oracle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oracle.md), shark vacuum, optimus prime, [robots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robots.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/28.md)

### 29. UK Digital ID, Keir Starmer, and Government Accreditation (2:49:29–2:51:35)

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer is exploring the implementation of digital ID cards to streamline government services and combat illegal migration. The hosts contrast this "accreditation" push in the UK with the "Trump Gold Card" in the U.S., arguing that the British public is being conditioned to accept more government surveillance.

Keywords: [keir starmer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keir-starmer.md), [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [digital id](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-id.md), [accreditation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/accreditation.md), [illegal migration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illegal-migration.md), [passwords](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/passwords.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Trump on Putin, Oil Prices, and European Energy (2:51:37–2:55:51)

During a press conference with Keir Starmer, Donald Trump states that Vladimir Putin has "let him down" and argues that the war in Ukraine will end if oil prices are driven down. Meanwhile, EU President Ursula von der Leyen announces plans to ban Russian LNG imports to cut off the Kremlin's war revenues, a move the hosts believe will further damage the European economy.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [keir starmer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keir-starmer.md), [oil prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-prices.md), [ursula von der leyen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ursula-von-der-leyen.md), [lng](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lng.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Katie Hopkins, LBC, and the "Most Hated" Label (2:55:51–3:00:02)

The history of Katie Hopkins' rise and fall in the UK media is reviewed, including her controversial Sun column and her time on LBC. The hosts discuss the extreme public backlash she faced, which reportedly forced her family to move and change their names. An AI summary of her "most hated" moments is critiqued for its bias.

Keywords: [katie hopkins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/katie-hopkins.md), [lbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lbc.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [celebrity big brother](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celebrity-big-brother.md), sun column, [migrants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/migrants.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Turning Point USA Leadership and Air Traffic Control Spats (3:00:03–3:05:02)

Erica Kirk, widow of Charlie Kirk, has been named CEO of Turning Point USA. In a separate segment, an air traffic control recording is played featuring a controller scolding a Spirit Airlines pilot for a lack of responsiveness near Air Force One. Host Adam Curry, a pilot, explains the necessity of quick radio responses in busy airspace.

Keywords: [turning point usa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turning-point-usa.md), [erica kirk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erica-kirk.md), [air traffic control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-traffic-control.md), [spirit airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spirit-airlines.md), [air force one](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force-one.md), cirrus

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Free Speech Supercut and Eleven Labs "Demon Filter" (3:05:03–3:10:51)

A supercut of politicians and media figures discussing the "limits" of the First Amendment is played, featuring AOC and clips from The View. The hosts experiment with an Eleven Labs voice isolator, which they jokingly call a "demon revealer" because of how it distorts the audio of Anna Navarro celebrating Tucker Carlson's firing.

Keywords: [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md), [aoc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aoc.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [eleven labs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eleven-labs.md), [anna navarro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anna-navarro.md), [the view](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-view.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Peerage Upgrades, Birthday Call-outs, and Meetup Schedule (3:10:51–3:20:39)

The show concludes with a series of peerage upgrades, including Sir Greg Hudson becoming a baronet. Birthday wishes are sent to various producers and family members. A comprehensive list of upcoming No Agenda meetups is read, covering locations from Alaska to the Netherlands, emphasizing the importance of community connection.

Keywords: [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [baronet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baronet.md), sir greg hudson, archduchess kim, [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [fredericksburg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fredericksburg.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/34.md)

### 35. End of Show Mixes and Final Sign-off (3:20:42–3:30:30)

John Dvorak provides a "Tip of the Day" regarding non-exploding bottles of Moscato D'Asti wine at Costco. The episode wraps up with AI-generated musical mixes by Jeffrey Corker and Kevin Trotman. The hosts sign off with their traditional catchphrases, "In the morning" and "Adios, mofos."

Keywords: moscato d'asti, [costco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/costco.md), jeffrey corker, kevin trotman, [adios mofos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adios-mofos.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1801-hate-of-speech/chapter/35.md)

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