# Meloni in the Middle

> Globalist coordination faces a populist surge as British mothers protest immigration policies and the U.S. Treasury plots a digital takeover of the offshore dollar market.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1792
- **Published:** 2025-08-21
- **Length:** 3h 30m
- **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host)
- **Topics:** [Crime Bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crime-bill.md), Stablecoin Gambit, Pink Ladies, Meloni, Bessent, [Tulsi Gabbard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tulsi-gabbard.md), Hybrid Ferries
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle

## About this episode

Donald Trump plans a high-profile ride-along patrol in Washington D.C. to promote a sweeping new crime bill, drawing immediate comparisons to the 1994 Biden-Clinton legislation. The initiative revives debates over aggressive incarceration policies and the infamous super predator rhetoric of the 1990s as the administration seeks to federalize local law enforcement standards.

In the United Kingdom, the Operation Raise The Colours movement has seen British mothers known as the Pink Ladies organizing protests outside migrant hotels following an alleged assault in Epping. Meanwhile, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has broken with Emmanuel Macron over the deployment of European forces to Ukraine. Tensions escalated further after a Russian Shahed-131 drone crashed in a Polish cornfield, testing the limits of NATO Article 5. In the U.S., Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is reportedly developing a stablecoin gambit to capture the $13 trillion Eurodollar market and reshore manufacturing through a new sovereign wealth fund.

Volodymyr Zelensky has sparked a fashion trend with custom black shirts designed by Viktor Anisimov, while John Dvorak and Adam Curry explore the absurdity of silent disco podcast conferences. The episode features a satirical AI-generated Trump mocking EU leaders and a deep dive into the mechanical failure of Washington State’s first hybrid electric ferry, the Wenatchee.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/transcript.md.

### 1. Trump Crime Bill, 1994 Biden Crime Bill, Super Predators (0:00–4:04)

Donald Trump is reportedly planning a ride-along patrol in Washington D.C. to promote a new crime bill. This initiative draws comparisons to the 1994 Biden Crime Bill and the 1992 legislation that led to high incarceration rates. Hillary Clinton's 1990s "super predators" comment and the Time Magazine cover featuring 11-year-old gang member Lil Yummy are cited as historical context for aggressive crime policy.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [crime bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crime-bill.md), lil yummy, [super predators](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/super-predators.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/1.md)

### 2. AI Bubble Hype, Sam Altman, Los Angeles Times (4:06–4:55)

The Los Angeles Times recently published a headline suggesting the AI bubble is set to crash. OpenAI CEO Sam Altman has acknowledged the existence of a bubble, though he did not explicitly state it was over. Media outlets are increasingly publishing articles questioning the longevity of the current artificial intelligence hype cycle.

Keywords: [ai bubble](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-bubble.md), [sam altman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-altman.md), [openai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/openai.md), [los angeles times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-angeles-times.md), [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Skilled Trade Labor Crisis, Apprenticeships, Vocational Training (4:55–9:37)

America faces a growing labor crisis with roughly 400,000 skilled trade jobs currently unfilled, a number projected to reach 2 million by 2033. Data centers and manufacturing plants are competing for a shrinking pool of electricians, plumbers, and HVAC technicians as older workers retire. Experienced technicians can earn over $150,000 without student debt, highlighting the value of apprenticeships over traditional four-year degrees.

Keywords: [labor shortage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-shortage.md), [hvac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hvac.md), [plumbers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plumbers.md), electricians, [apprenticeships](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apprenticeships.md), [trade schools](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trade-schools.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/3.md)

### 4. GDP Growth, AI Data Centers, California Energy Crisis (9:37–13:37)

Economic analysts suggest the U.S. economy would be in a recession if not for massive spending on AI data centers and generative technology. In California, PG&E utility rates have surged, leading to concerns about civil unrest as residents struggle with doubling electric bills. Governor Gavin Newsom faces criticism for forest management and reservoir policies contributing to the state's infrastructure challenges.

Keywords: [gdp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gdp.md), [jay powell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-powell.md), [pg&e](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pg-e.md), [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [data centers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-centers.md), [recession](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recession.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Operation Raise The Colours, UK Anti-Immigration Protests, Pink Ladies (13:38–19:41)

A movement called Operation Raise The Colours has emerged in the United Kingdom, where citizens are displaying the St. George's Cross and Union Flag to protest government immigration policies. Protests have intensified outside migrant hotels following criminal incidents, including an alleged assault in Epping. A group known as the Pink Ladies, comprised of British mothers and grandmothers, has organized to demand better protection for local communities.

Keywords: [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), st george's cross, operation raise the colours, [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), pink ladies

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Globalist Coordination, Cultural Marxism, Western Civilization Decline (19:42–25:59)

The simultaneous appearance of similar migrant support programs and social initiatives across the U.S., UK, and EU suggests a coordinated globalist effort. Critics argue that these policies, including providing migrants with cell phones and cash vouchers, are designed to break the back of Western civilization. The shift toward cultural Marxism is viewed as a move away from the responsibilities of a free republic toward state dependency.

Keywords: [globalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/globalism.md), [cultural marxism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cultural-marxism.md), [immigration policy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration-policy.md), [socialism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/socialism.md), [western civilization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/western-civilization.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Trump AI Voiceover, European Union Leaders, Red Carpet Satire (26:00–28:16)

An AI-generated version of Donald Trump provides a satirical red carpet-style voiceover for the arrival of European Union leaders at a summit. The parody mocks various officials, including the President of Finland and British Prime Minister Keir Starmer. The commentary highlights Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and EU Commission President Ursula von der leyen through a humorous lens.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [ai voice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-voice.md), [ursula von der leyen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ursula-von-der-leyen.md), [giorgia meloni](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/giorgia-meloni.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Political Corruption, Epstein, Generational Psyops (28:18–30:36)

A discussion on the difficulty of maintaining political support amidst scandals like those involving Jeffrey Epstein. Claims are made that the Millennial generation was "psy-opped" into believing expensive college degrees in niche subjects were necessary for success. This is contrasted with the high earning potential of blue-collar trades that do not require student debt.

Keywords: [jeffrey epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-epstein.md), [millennials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/millennials.md), college education, political corruption, [psyop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psyop.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/8.md)

### 9. John Bolton, Fart Sniffing Club Rumors, AI Fact Checking (30:37–34:18)

A recurring rumor regarding former National Security Advisor John Bolton and a supposed "fart sniffing club" in New York is discussed. An AI assistant named "Error" is consulted to verify the claim, reporting that there is no credible evidence or reports to support the story. The hosts debate the reliability of AI in debunking or confirming obscure urban legends.

Keywords: [john bolton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-bolton.md), [rumors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rumors.md), ai error, [fact checking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fact-checking.md), new york clubs

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/9.md)

### 10. NATO Article 5, Budapest Memorandum, Poland Drone Incident (34:18–36:51)

John Bolton notes that NATO's Article 5 contains a provision allowing members to take only such action as they "deem necessary," rather than an automatic military response. This nuance is highlighted following a Russian drone landing in a Polish cornfield, which did not trigger a full NATO intervention. The 1994 Budapest Memorandum is cited as a failed security guarantee for Ukraine.

Keywords: [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [article 5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/article-5.md), [budapest memorandum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budapest-memorandum.md), [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Trump Ukraine Peace Deal, Security Guarantees, NATO Enlargement (36:52–41:10)

Analyst Andrew Rasoulis discusses Donald Trump's claims that a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine is possible if territory concessions are made. Russia has reportedly signaled a willingness to accept legal security guarantees for Ukraine as long as it does not involve NATO membership. The conflict's origins are traced back to NATO enlargement and statements made by Vice President Kamala Harris at the Munich Security Conference.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [volodymyr zelensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volodymyr-zelensky.md), [crimea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crimea.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [andrew rasoulis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-rasoulis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Giorgia Meloni, Emmanuel Macron, Munich Security Conference (41:11–44:50)

Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni is noted for her opposition to French President Emmanuel Macron's suggestions of sending European forces into Ukraine. Meanwhile, media coverage of Kamala Harris at the Munich Security Conference is criticized for historical inaccuracies regarding Adlai Stevenson and the Cuban Missile Crisis. The Vice President's rhetoric is framed as a serious moment for transatlantic unity against Russian aggression.

Keywords: [giorgia meloni](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/giorgia-meloni.md), [emmanuel macron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emmanuel-macron.md), [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), [munich security conference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/munich-security-conference.md), [adlai stevenson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adlai-stevenson.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Russian Drone Strike in Poland, Sumy Region Attacks (44:51–49:34)

A Russian drone, identified as a Shahed-131/136 kamikaze model, crashed and exploded in a Polish cornfield near the Ukrainian border. This incident occurred alongside massive drone strikes in Ukraine's Sumy and Odessa regions, which injured 14 people including children. Polish officials characterized the event as a provocation, though it was deemed insufficient to invoke NATO's Article 5.

Keywords: [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md), sumy, [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), shahed-131, [article 5](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/article-5.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/13.md)

### 14. EU Coalition of the Willing, Conscription, European Security (49:36–54:58)

European Union leaders are discussing a "coalition of the willing" consisting of 30 countries prepared to support a ceasefire in Ukraine. While President Trump insists no U.S. troops will be deployed, Europeans may be forced to consider conscription to man a "tripwire force" on the border. Surveys in Germany show low willingness among youth to take up arms, despite high unemployment making military service a potential career path.

Keywords: [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), antonio costa, [conscription](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conscription.md), [ceasefire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ceasefire.md), [military draft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-draft.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Political Body Doubles, Cloning Theories, Vladimir Putin (54:59–1:02:52)

The use of political body doubles is discussed, citing historical claims about Kennedy and modern observations of Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. A theory is presented that the "real" Vladimir Putin may have died years ago and been replaced by a clone or double, a sentiment echoed by Donald Trump in 2022. The hosts explore the technical difficulties of maintaining a perfect clone due to environmental variables like diet and aging.

Keywords: [body doubles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-doubles.md), [cloning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cloning.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Volodymyr Zelensky Fashion, Custom Tailoring, Perry Ellis Pleats (1:02:52–1:05:39)

Ukrainian designer Viktor Anisimov is credited with Volodymyr Zelensky's signature black shirt and blazer look, which has made diplomatic waves. The discussion shifts to the speed of custom tailoring in Korea and an anecdote about custom shirts featuring "Perry Ellis pleats" and pockets sized specifically to hold CD jewel cases.

Keywords: [volodymyr zelensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volodymyr-zelensky.md), [fashion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fashion.md), viktor anisimov, [tailoring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tailoring.md), [perry ellis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/perry-ellis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/16.md)

### 17. European Nuclear Weapons, US Air Support, Zelensky Inspired Fashion (1:05:39–1:10:31)

Some European lawmakers are reportedly discussing the development or hosting of nuclear weapons due to doubts about U.S. protection. Reuters reports that President Trump is weighing the possibility of providing U.S. air support or air defense systems to Ukraine as part of a peace deal, while ruling out ground troops. Additionally, "Zelensky-inspired" fashion is predicted to appear in upcoming Paris fashion shows.

Keywords: [nuclear weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-weapons.md), air support, [volodymyr zelensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volodymyr-zelensky.md), [reuters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reuters.md), haute couture

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/17.md)

### 18. China as Puppet Master, Trilateral Peace Negotiations, Casey Fleming (1:10:32–1:16:28)

National security advisor Casey Fleming argues that China is the "grand puppet master" behind Russia, Iran, and North Korea. According to this analysis, the CCP wants to keep the U.S. distracted by extending the Russia-Ukraine conflict indefinitely to pursue its own global aggression. Russia has recently indicated interest in a trilateral negotiation involving India and China, which Fleming views as a strategic move to delay peace.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [ccp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ccp.md), casey fleming, [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), trilateral

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/18.md)

### 19. EU Leaders as Chinese Stooges, Ursula von der Leyen, Corruption (1:16:28–1:22:55)

European leaders like Ursula von der Leyen are accused of being "stooges" for Chinese interests, potentially motivated by financial gain and power. Von der Leyen's "textgate" scandal with Pfizer is cited as evidence of her lack of transparency. The focus on building drones in Ukraine is framed as a potential benefit for Chinese overlords who dominate the drone manufacturing market.

Keywords: [ursula von der leyen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ursula-von-der-leyen.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [corruption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corruption.md), [ccp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ccp.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Scott Bessent, Sovereign Wealth Funds, US Manufacturing (1:22:55–1:27:35)

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is reportedly orchestrating a plan where foreign countries like Japan and South Korea provide the U.S. with a "sovereign wealth fund" through directed investments. These funds, totaling hundreds of billions, would be used to reshore critical industries and build new factories at the President's discretion. This strategy aims to de-risk the U.S. economy following supply chain vulnerabilities exposed during COVID-19.

Keywords: [scott bessent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-bessent.md), [treasury](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasury.md), [sovereign wealth fund](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sovereign-wealth-fund.md), [tariffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tariffs.md), [manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Stablecoin Gambit, Eurodollar Market, Scott Bessent Strategy (1:27:36–1:32:19)

Scott Bessent is theorized to be planning a "stablecoin gambit" to gain control over the $13 trillion Eurodollar market. By backing stablecoins with short-term U.S. Treasury bills and offering government guarantees, the Treasury could bypass the Federal Reserve's control over interest rates. This move would force offshore dollar holders into a regulated U.S. system, providing a massive new funding source for the government.

Keywords: [stablecoins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stablecoins.md), [eurodollar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eurodollar.md), [scott bessent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-bessent.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [treasury bills](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasury-bills.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/21.md)

### 22. X-Money, Facebook Libra, Global Stablecoin Adoption (1:32:19–1:38:39)

The U.S. government may deputize tech giants like Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg to spread dollar-backed stablecoins globally through their platforms. This would provide a digital bank account to millions of people in developing nations, effectively bypassing local regulators. The strategy would also serve as a powerful sanctions weapon, as foreign elites could lose access to their wealth if they block these digital dollar services.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [libra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libra.md), [stablecoins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stablecoins.md), x-money

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Elon Musk vs. PayPal, X.com, Social Media Growth (1:38:40–1:42:10)

Elon Musk's acquisition of X.com is linked to his long-standing desire to turn PayPal into an "everything app," a vision he was prevented from fulfilling when he was ousted from the company. There is reportedly no love lost between Musk and Peter Thiel. The discussion also touches on the mechanics of growing a brand on X, with one host planning to test if a paid subscription increases follower reach.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [peter thiel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peter-thiel.md), [x.com](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/x-com.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Kash Patel, FBI Leadership, Podcast Movement Conference (1:42:11–1:47:24)

Reports suggest Missouri AG Andrew Bailey may be a candidate to replace Kash Patel as FBI Director. The conversation shifts to a critique of the "Podcast Industrial Complex" and the Podcast Movement conference in Dallas. One host recounts being "blackballed" from the industry for refusing to pay for a keynote speaking slot, leading to the creation of an "unconference" alternative.

Keywords: [kash patel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kash-patel.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [podcast movement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-movement.md), [dallas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dallas.md), [media mockery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-mockery.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Silent Disco Conferences, Wireless Headphones, Ear Mold (1:47:25–1:53:18)

The Podcast Movement conference in Dallas utilized a "silent disco" format for its expo hall stages, where attendees used wireless headphones to listen to speakers. This technology allowed multiple presentations to occur simultaneously in an open space without audio interference. While effective for audience engagement, the shared use of headphones raised concerns about hygiene and "ear mold."

Keywords: [podcast movement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-movement.md), soundstack, wireless headphones, [trade shows](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trade-shows.md), [dallas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dallas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/25.md)

### 26. No Agenda Stream, Modern Podcast Apps, Podping (1:53:21–1:55:27)

The No Agenda show continues to promote the "Value for Value" model and the use of modern podcast apps that support features like Podping. These technologies allow for instant notifications when a show goes live or a new episode is released. The hosts acknowledge their live audience in the "troll room" and discuss the technical challenges of maintaining listener counts.

Keywords: [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [podping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podping.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [trollroom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trollroom.md), [live stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-stream.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Podcast Advertising CPMs, Zelle, Plaid Middleware Risks (1:55:29–2:01:50)

Standard podcast advertising CPMs have dropped to approximately $3.50, making direct listener support more viable for independent creators. The banking industry's Zelle system is criticized for its lack of consumer protection against fraud. Additionally, the Plaid middleware used by apps like Venmo is flagged for privacy concerns, as it reportedly logs into user bank accounts multiple times a day to collect data.

Keywords: [cpm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cpm.md), [zelle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zelle.md), [plaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plaid.md), [banking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/banking.md), [stablecoins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stablecoins.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/27.md)

### 28. No Agenda Art, AI Prompting, Screw Worm Psyop (2:01:51–2:07:10)

The hosts discuss the selection of show artwork, noting the increasing use of AI prompting by listeners. A "screw worm" narrative in the cattle industry is debated as a potential "psyop" intended to raise beef prices, contradicting earlier reports from "Texas Slim." The segment provides a behind-the-scenes look at how the show's titles and art are finalized.

Keywords: [ai art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-art.md), screw worm, [beef prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beef-prices.md), [texas slim](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas-slim.md), [podcast production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-production.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Secretary General Promotion, Steve Miller Donation, De-douching (2:07:11–2:11:51)

A new "Secretary General" title is introduced for donors contributing $500 or more, allowing them to claim leadership over any entity or region. Steve Miller from Aledo, Texas, contributed $2,500 and requested a "de-douching" for himself and his son. The promotion includes a custom certificate with a large wax seal featuring the show's signet.

Keywords: [secretary general](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secretary-general.md), [steve miller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-miller.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), aledo texas

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Sir Peter Jockey, Espresso Martini History, Sir Ahab (2:11:51–2:15:02)

Sir Peter Jockey of the Mountains donated $1,000 and requested a knighting ceremony involving beef Wellington and a dirty martini. This prompts a discussion on the history of the Espresso Martini, which was reportedly invented in 1980s London for a model. Sir Ahab from Mandeville, Louisiana, also contributed $500 to become Secretary General of the Pacific Fleet.

Keywords: [espresso martini](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espresso-martini.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), sir peter jockey, sir ahab, mandeville louisiana

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Justine Palmer, Women in Precision Engineering, Montana State (2:15:05–2:18:36)

Justine Palmer from Bozeman, Montana, sent a donation that sparked a discussion on the historical role of women in precision engineering during World War II. The hosts note that precision is an underrated characteristic of women, citing female helicopter pilots as a modern example. Palmer also sent Montana State University Bobcats apparel to the show.

Keywords: justine palmer, bozeman montana, precision engineering, [female pilots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/female-pilots.md), montana state

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Delta Amex Metal, Singapore Tourism, Knight Kurt (2:18:37–2:23:17)

Justin Proulx donated using a new Delta Reserve Amex made from a retired Boeing 747. The conversation moves to Singapore, described as a safe but "fascist" state with excellent food. Kurt Kiefer from Austin, Texas, was knighted as "Knight Kurt of the Ngorongoro Crater" ahead of his safari trip to Tanzania.

Keywords: delta amex, [boeing 747](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-747.md), [singapore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/singapore.md), serengeti, kurt kiefer

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Plumber Producers, 70,000 Cambodian Monks, Nobel Peace Prize (2:23:19–2:29:33)

A listener who is a plumber with a mass communications degree highlights the value of trade work. In international news, 70,000 Cambodian Buddhist monks reportedly nominated Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize, an event largely ignored by mainstream media. The monks expressed appreciation for Trump's diplomatic efforts in the region.

Keywords: [cambodia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cambodia.md), buddhist monks, [nobel peace prize](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nobel-peace-prize.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [plumbers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plumbers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Keith Lawson, Linda Lou Patkin, No Agenda Donations (2:29:34–2:32:52)

Keith Lawson (Certificate) and Linda Lou Patkin (Duchess of Jobs) are recognized for their continued support of the show. Patkin's business, Image Makers Inc., is promoted for providing resume services that highlight unique value. The hosts reiterate that the show is entirely listener-supported and encourage recurring donations via their website.

Keywords: keith lawson, [linda lou patkin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linda-lou-patkin.md), [resumes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/resumes.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Hybrid Electric Ferry Failure, Washington State Ferries (2:32:53–2:34:31)

The "Wenatchee," Washington State's first hybrid electric ferry, was pulled from service just two months after a two-year renovation. The vessel experienced mechanical issues while docking in Seattle. Critics point to the dangers of using large battery systems in a saltwater environment as a fundamental flaw in the conversion project.

Keywords: [washington state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-state.md), ferry, hybrid electric, wenatchee, battery power

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Peter Thiel, Transhumanism, New York Times Interview (2:34:32–2:42:29)

In a New York Times interview, Peter Thiel discusses his transhumanist views, suggesting that the human race should seek radical transformation beyond biological limits. Thiel argues that Judeo-Christian tradition is fundamentally about "transcending nature." The interviewer's apparent agreement with Thiel's "heretical" interpretations of scripture is criticized by the hosts.

Keywords: [peter thiel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peter-thiel.md), [transhumanism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transhumanism.md), [christianity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christianity.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Tulsi Gabbard, Intelligence Community Cuts, Security Clearances (2:42:31–2:47:42)

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard announced a 40% budget cut to her department to "root out deep state actors." She has stripped security clearances from 37 officials accused of politicizing intelligence, specifically regarding the 2016 Russia collusion narrative. Gabbard claims there is evidence that the Obama administration directed the creation of false intelligence assessments using the discredited Steele dossier.

Keywords: [tulsi gabbard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tulsi-gabbard.md), [dni](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dni.md), [security clearance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-clearance.md), [deep state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deep-state.md), [steele dossier](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steele-dossier.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/37.md)

### 38. NPR Science Definition, Intelligence Mission, Shortwave Podcast (2:47:43–2:52:49)

NPR's "Shortwave" podcast is criticized for defining science as an "invisible force" rather than a systematic study of the natural world. Meanwhile, career intelligence officials are mocked for claiming their mission is to "speak truth to power." Senator Mark Warner expressed concern over Tulsi Gabbard's plans, citing her supposed track record of politicizing intelligence.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [science](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/science.md), [shortwave](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shortwave.md), [mark warner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-warner.md), [intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Ozempic Price War, Side Effects, Dr. Celine Gounder (2:52:49–2:55:16)

Novo Nordisk is cutting the price of Ozempic to compete with Eli Lilly's weight loss drugs, Monjaro and ZepBound. Dr. Celine Gounder discusses the "price war" and the effectiveness of these medications. A new side effect dubbed "Ozempic vulva," involving loose skin in the vaginal area, is highlighted as a consequence of rapid weight loss.

Keywords: [ozempic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ozempic.md), wigovi, [eli lilly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eli-lilly.md), [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md), [weight loss drugs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weight-loss-drugs.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Vaccine Schedule Conflict, CDC vs. AAP, Dr. Celine Gounder (2:55:17–3:02:40)

For the first time in decades, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) has released a vaccine schedule that conflicts with the CDC's guidance under Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The AAP continues to recommend routine COVID-19 vaccinations for infants as young as six months, while the CDC has moved away from this recommendation for healthy children. Dr. Celine Gounder defends the AAP, claiming the CDC's process has been "politicized."

Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [rfk jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rfk-jr.md), [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [american academy of pediatrics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-academy-of-pediatrics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Thimerosal and Aluminum in Vaccines, Mercury Salts (3:02:41–3:07:48)

The debate over vaccine ingredients continues as the CDC advisory committee reviews the use of Thimerosal and aluminum. Dr. Celine Gounder argues that ethylmercury in vaccines is safe compared to methylmercury found in fish. However, critics point out that aluminum acts as a toxic adjuvant to "tickle" the immune system, leading to concerns about long-term health impacts on children.

Keywords: [thimerosal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thimerosal.md), [aluminum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aluminum.md), [mercury](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mercury.md), [adjuvants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adjuvants.md), [rfk jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rfk-jr.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Donor Recognition, Mercy Me, Global Support (3:07:49–3:16:24)

The hosts thank a wide range of donors from Tennessee, Nevada, Belgium, Switzerland, and Australia. Nathan Cochran of the band Mercy Me is identified as a long-time listener. The segment includes birthday shout-outs and a final call for "jobs karma" for those seeking employment, emphasizing the show's global reach and listener loyalty.

Keywords: [mercy me](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mercy-me.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [belgium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belgium.md), [switzerland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/switzerland.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Knighting Ceremony, Signet Rings, Secretary Generals (3:16:25–3:19:30)

Kurt Kiefer and Peter Fantino are officially knighted into the No Agenda Roundtable for their significant financial contributions. The ceremony includes the traditional reading of the "mutton and mead" menu. The hosts also prepare to formalize the new "Secretary General" titles for Steve Miller, Peter Fantino, Skylar Firestone, and Sir Ahab.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [signet rings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/signet-rings.md), [steve miller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-miller.md), peter fantino, kurt kiefer

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/43.md)

### 44. No Agenda Meetups, Charlotte, Maastricht, McKinney (3:19:30–3:21:20)

Upcoming No Agenda meetups are announced for Charlotte, North Carolina; Maastricht, Netherlands; and McKinney, Texas. A special "Outback Steakhouse Beef Tallow Meetup" is scheduled for Carmel, Indiana. Listeners are encouraged to visit the meetup website to find or organize local gatherings of the "No Agenda family."

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [charlotte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlotte.md), [maastricht](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maastricht.md), [mckinney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mckinney.md), [indiana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indiana.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Terracotta Watering Spikes, Production Meeting, End of Show (3:21:20–3:26:30)

John Dvorak provides a "tip of the day" regarding terracotta watering spikes for gardeners, praising their simple analog design over "Internet of Things" connected devices. The hosts hold a brief on-air production meeting to select the "end-of-show ISO" clip. The episode concludes with a reminder of the show's live stream schedule and upcoming Sunday broadcast.

Keywords: [gardening](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gardening.md), watering spikes, production meeting, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [john dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-dvorak.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Russian Playbook Montage, Outro, Final Sign-off (3:26:31–3:30:42)

The show closes with a montage of media figures repeatedly using the phrase "Russian playbook" to describe various political events. The hosts sign off from the Texas Hill Country and Silicon Valley, promising to return on Sunday. The final audio clip features a humorous dismissal of "conspiracy theories" and a reference to "My Little Pony."

Keywords: [russian playbook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russian-playbook.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [media tropes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-tropes.md), [conspiracy theory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conspiracy-theory.md), [outro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outro.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1792-meloni-in-the-middle/chapter/46.md)

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