# Algo Chasers

> California infrastructure crumbles under wildfire pressure while the looming TikTok ban sends investors into a $20 billion scramble to save the short-form video giant.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1729
- **Published:** 2025-01-12
- **Length:** 3h 20m
- **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host)
- **Topics:** [Palisades Fire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palisades-fire.md), TikTok Ban, [Net Zero](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-zero.md), [Gavin Newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), ESG Backlash, RealShort, Trump Sentencing
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers

## About this episode

Governor Gavin Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass face intense scrutiny as the Pacific Palisades blazes expose a catastrophic failure of California water infrastructure. While the BBC reports that critical reservoirs were drained for maintenance during peak fire season, residents in the path of the flames received false evacuation alerts due to a massive computer glitch. The disaster has reignited a fierce debate over state management, with critics like Jillian Michaels and Whitney Cummings pointing to DEI-focused hiring practices and stagnant fire department budgets as primary drivers of the chaos.

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse appeared on CNN to blame the fossil fuel industry for the crisis, warning that climate change now threatens the entire global real estate asset class. Meanwhile, NASA and NOAA analysts confirmed 2024 as the hottest year on record, even as major financial institutions like Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase withdraw from the Net Zero Banking Alliance in anticipation of a Trump 2.0 administration. In the tech sector, the January 19th deadline for a TikTok divestiture looms, with Kevin O'Leary and Frank McCourt launching a $20 billion bid to Americanize the platform before it faces a total U.S. ban.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the media's obsession with the term gobsmackingly bananas to describe global temperatures while mocking the sudden disappearance of the South Central Florida meetup group. The duo explores the rise of Chinese-backed vertical micro-dramas on the RealShort app and shares a cautionary tale about the 1714 Stradivarius auction. Dame Emily of Eau Claire joins the ranks of the No Agenda elite as the show navigates the strange intersection of Hollywood award season delays and the unconditional discharge of Donald Trump's felony convictions.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/transcript.md.

### 1. California Wildfires, Gavin Newsom, and Media Coverage Criticism (0:00–5:08)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak critique the lack of live news coverage on major networks like CNN and Fox News during the California wildfires on a Saturday night. They highlight a viral clip of Jillian Michaels criticizing Governor Gavin Newsom over the state's failure to manage forestry and build reservoirs despite taxpayer funding. The discussion focuses on the recurring nature of these disasters and the perceived incompetence of state leadership in preparing for the Santa Ana winds.

Keywords: [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [wildfires](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wildfires.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [jillian michaels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jillian-michaels.md), [malibu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malibu.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/1.md)

### 2. BBC Reporting, Fire Hydrant Failures, and Reservoir Maintenance (5:09–9:04)

The BBC reports on the failure of fire hydrants in the Pacific Palisades area during the recent blazes. Governor Gavin Newsom has announced an independent review to determine why water systems failed, with some officials suggesting residential sprinklers depleted the supply. Further investigation reveals that a key reservoir in the area was empty for maintenance at the start of the fire, severely limiting the Los Angeles Fire Department's capacity to combat the flames.

Keywords: [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), pacific palisades, fire hydrants, [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), water infrastructure

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/2.md)

### 3. California Water Infrastructure, DEI Hires, and Emergency Alert Glitches (9:06–14:38)

John C. Dvorak explains the mechanics of gravity-fed water systems in California and questions the timing of reservoir maintenance during high-risk periods. The conversation shifts to a computer glitch that sent false mandatory evacuation alerts to Los Angeles residents, causing widespread panic. Additionally, they discuss comedian Whitney Cummings' viral critique regarding the lack of diversity and perceived incompetence within the leadership of the Los Angeles Fire Department.

Keywords: water tanks, gravity-fed systems, whitney cummings, [dei](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dei.md), [emergency alerts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emergency-alerts.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/3.md)

### 4. California Homeowners Insurance Crisis and Fair Plan Expansion (14:39–21:26)

The California Department of Insurance reports that private insurers declined to renew 2.8 million policies between 2020 and 2022 due to wildfire risks. Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara has implemented a moratorium on non-renewals, forcing many residents onto the California Fair Plan, which now covers over $450 billion in property. The hosts argue that state-imposed rate caps and a lack of fire mitigation are driving insurance companies to exit the California market entirely.

Keywords: ricardo lara, california fair plan, homeowners insurance, wildfire risk, insurance commissioner

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Los Angeles Firefighting Efforts and Resource Shortages (21:26–26:29)

Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass and Fire Chief Kristen Crowley provide updates on the Palisades fire, which remains only 11% contained. FEMA and the Small Business Administration are on the ground at Ritchie Valens Park to provide disaster relief and loans to survivors. Despite the deployment of all available aircraft, officials face mounting criticism over dry hydrants and the overall lack of preparation for a disaster of this magnitude.

Keywords: [karen bass](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karen-bass.md), anthony maroney, kristen crowley, [fema](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema.md), [palisades fire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/palisades-fire.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Los Angeles City Council, Fire Department Budget, and Historical Fires (26:29–30:43)

Councilwoman Tracy Park expresses frustration over recurring communication failures and traffic bottlenecks during evacuations in the Pacific Palisades. She notes that the Los Angeles Fire Department budget is severely inadequate, with the number of stations remaining stagnant for 60 years while service demands have tripled. The segment compares the current disaster to the 1961 Bel Air fire, noting the current destruction is significantly more vast.

Keywords: tracy park, lafd, fire stations, bel air fire, [santa ana winds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/santa-ana-winds.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Wildfire Smoke Health Risks and Respiratory Emergencies (30:44–33:08)

Dr. Russell Boer of UCLA discusses the public health emergency declared in Los Angeles County due to extreme smoke and ash. Medical clinics are seeing a surge in patients reporting shortness of breath, chest tightness, and acute flare-ups of chronic heart and lung diseases. Health officials warn that an Air Quality Index above 200 is hazardous even for healthy individuals and athletes, as fine particles can enter the bloodstream through the lungs.

Keywords: [ucla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ucla.md), [air quality index](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-quality-index.md), [copd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copd.md), [public health emergency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-health-emergency.md), smoke inhalation

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Gavin Newsom, Marshall Plan for LA, and Federal Funding (33:09–38:25)

Governor Gavin Newsom proposes a "Marshall Plan" to rebuild Los Angeles in preparation for the upcoming World Cup, Super Bowl, and Olympic Games. He emphasizes the need for a "reimagined LA 2.0" and calls for federal assistance and philanthropic cooperation to restore the coastal and inland communities ravaged by fire. Critics argue the plan is a "big game" intended to secure federal money while the state continues to face high taxation and outward migration.

Keywords: [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [marshall plan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marshall-plan.md), [world cup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-cup.md), [olympics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/olympics.md), federal assistance

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Joe Biden, Disaster Relief, and Satellite Phone Skepticism (38:25–41:36)

President Joe Biden pledged 100% federal disaster recovery relief for California for the next six months following a conversation with Governor Gavin Newsom. The hosts express skepticism regarding a viral clip of Newsom appearing to use a satellite phone during the crisis, suggesting the call may have been staged for optics. They debate the specifics of the federal funding match and Newsom's portrayal of the negotiations with the White House.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [disaster recovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disaster-recovery.md), [satellite phones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satellite-phones.md), [federal funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-funding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Climate Change Rhetoric, 2024 Heat Records, and DEI Fire Labels (41:37–47:32)

NASA and NOAA analysts report that 2024 was the hottest year in recorded history, a point emphasized by the Biden-Harris administration to link the California wildfires to climate change. President Biden compared the fire damage to a war scene, while Vice President Kamala Harris framed the disaster as a consequence of a changing climate. The hosts reject this narrative, preferring the term "Great DEI Fire" to describe what they view as a breakdown in leadership and resource management.

Keywords: [noaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noaa.md), [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [copernicus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copernicus.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Michael Smerconish, Sheldon Whitehouse, and Real Estate Risks (47:32–54:50)

CNN host Michael Smerconish polls his audience on whether climate change or government mismanagement is to blame for the California fires, with 73% citing climate change. Senator Sheldon Whitehouse joins the program to argue that the fossil fuel industry's "campaign of lies" is colliding with the insurance industry's risk models. Whitehouse warns that climate change is threatening the global real estate asset class, potentially leading to an economic crash similar to 2008.

Keywords: [michael smerconish](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-smerconish.md), [sheldon whitehouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sheldon-whitehouse.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [fossil fuels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fossil-fuels.md), [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Fossil Fuel Disinformation Claims and CNN Bias (54:51–59:36)

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse dismisses criticisms of government mismanagement as "nonsense" propagated by fossil fuel interests and Republicans. The hosts mock the Senator's claims and criticize CNN's perceived decline in journalistic quality. They question why John Malone, a conservative board member of Discovery (which owns CNN), allows the network to maintain its current editorial direction.

Keywords: [sheldon whitehouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sheldon-whitehouse.md), [fossil fuels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fossil-fuels.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [john malone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-malone.md), [discovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/discovery.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Global Temperature Monitoring and UK Snow Skepticism (59:36–1:03:41)

Officials from NASA and NOAA explain the process of "quilting together" data from land-based weather stations, ocean buoys, and ships to track global temperatures. They assert that 2024 exceeded the 1.5-degree Celsius threshold, leading to more extreme weather and wildfires. The hosts contrast these reports with news of a record cold snap in the United Kingdom, mocking past predictions that children in the UK would never see snow again.

Keywords: [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [noaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noaa.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [weather stations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-stations.md), [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/13.md)

### 14. NPR Climate Science, Ship Tracks, and Chemtrail Theories (1:03:42–1:10:41)

NPR reports on the "gobsmackingly bananas" heat of 2023 and 2024, citing climate scientists Zeke Hausfather and Gavin Schmidt. The report explores why temperatures exceeded expectations, ruling out solar cycles and volcanoes while investigating "ship tracks"—clouds formed by ship pollution. Scientists suggest that cleaner shipping fuel reduced these cooling clouds, contributing to a hotter planet, a logic the hosts find contradictory and reminiscent of "chemtrail" theories.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), zeke hausfather, gavin schmidt, ship tracks, [aerosols](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aerosols.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Net Zero Banking Alliance, ESG Backlash, and Trump 2.0 (1:10:42–1:15:30)

Major American financial institutions, including Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, and JP Morgan Chase, have withdrawn from the Net Zero Banking Alliance. Analysts suggest these banks are retreating from ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) commitments due to political pressure and the "fear of Trump 2.0." While European banks continue to pursue net-zero goals, the hosts argue that the U.S. is shifting back toward fossil fuels to secure cheaper energy.

Keywords: [mark carney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-carney.md), net zero banking alliance, [esg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/esg.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [jp morgan chase](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jp-morgan-chase.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Hollywood Wildfire Damage and Golden Globes Sentiment (1:15:30–1:19:48)

The California wildfires destroyed several historic Hollywood landmarks, including the Will Rogers Ranch House and the Bunny Museum in Altadena. The disaster has disrupted the entertainment industry, delaying Oscar nominations and casting a somber mood over the award season following the Golden Globes. Comedian Nikki Glaser's monologue is noted for highlighting the "godless" nature of the industry, as acceptance speeches omitted religious thanks.

Keywords: will rogers ranch, bunny museum, [golden globes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/golden-globes.md), nikki glaser, [oscars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oscars.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/16.md)

### 17. TikTok Ban Legislation and National Security Concerns (1:19:50–1:25:04)

Legal experts discuss the impending January 19th deadline for TikTok's divestiture from ByteDance, noting that the app could "go dark" without cloud support. The U.S. government argues that the Chinese government could use the platform for covert content manipulation and data collection on 177 million Americans. The hosts suggest the ban is primarily a move to protect American competitors like Google and Meta rather than a legitimate national security response.

Keywords: [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [bytedance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bytedance.md), [john oliver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-oliver.md), [national security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-security.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Supreme Court TikTok Arguments and Blackmail Theories (1:25:05–1:32:12)

The Supreme Court hears arguments regarding TikTok's First Amendment rights, with Chief Justice John Roberts questioning if the law targets speech or foreign control. Justice Brett Kavanaugh expresses concern over the potential for the Chinese government to use TikTok data to blackmail future U.S. officials or military personnel. NPR highlights theories that videos of teenagers today could be "weaponized" against them decades later when they seek government employment.

Keywords: [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [john roberts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-roberts.md), [elena kagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elena-kagan.md), [brett kavanaugh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brett-kavanaugh.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Trump's Potential Role as TikTok Savior (1:32:12–1:35:42)

As the January 19th deadline approaches, there is uncertainty regarding whether President-elect Donald Trump will intervene to save TikTok. While Trump initiated the ban movement during his first term, he has recently positioned himself as the app's potential savior. Tech giants Apple and Google are reportedly preparing to remove the app from their stores to comply with federal law, leaving a 24-hour window of "limbo" before Trump's inauguration.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [justice department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justice-department.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Kevin O'Leary, TikTok Acquisition, and Short-Form Video Economy (1:35:44–1:41:18)

Investor Kevin O'Leary, known as "Mr. Wonderful," announces a joint bid with Frank McCourt to purchase TikTok for $20 billion. O'Leary states they intend to "Americanize" the platform and rewrite the algorithm to remove perceived Chinese spyware. Adam Curry argues that the U.S. should dominate the short-form video market by exporting "influencer culture" and "bubblegum pop" rather than shutting down platforms.

Keywords: [kevin o'leary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kevin-o-leary.md), frank mccourt, [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [algorithm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithm.md), short-form video

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Chinese Micro-Dramas, RealShort App, and Quibi Comparison (1:41:18–1:47:42)

Chinese-backed apps like RealShort and Drama Box are seeing an 8,000% revenue increase by producing "vertical shorts"—minute-long, low-budget dramas designed for mobile viewing. Despite being described as "abysmal content," the industry is worth $4.4 billion in China and is gaining traction in the U.S. and India. The hosts compare this trend to Jeffrey Katzenberg's failed Quibi platform, noting that audiences are now more accepting of lower production values.

Keywords: realshort, dramabox, [quibi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quibi.md), [jeffrey katzenberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-katzenberg.md), vertical series

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Influencer Marketing, Cosmetic Industry, and Global Exports (1:47:45–1:54:34)

The "freemium" model of short-form video apps often requires users to pay $25-$40 to finish a series. The hosts discuss the power of influencers in the cosmetic and cooking industries, noting how "get ready with me" videos drive massive product sales. They advocate for the U.S. to lean into this digital economy, exporting American lifestyle content and products to global markets like Argentina and Spain.

Keywords: [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [instagram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/instagram.md), freemium model, [cosmetics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cosmetics.md), influencer economy

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Modern Podcast Apps and Value-for-Value Model (1:54:35–1:59:11)

The hosts encourage listeners to use modern podcast apps from PodcastApps.com, such as Fountain, to receive "bat signals" when the show goes live. They discuss the "Value-for-Value" model, which they pioneered 17 years ago, emphasizing the importance of an engaged audience over traditional advertising. The "Troll Room" serves as a live studio audience, providing real-time feedback and support for the broadcast.

Keywords: [fountain app](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fountain-app.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [live streaming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-streaming.md), [troll room](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/troll-room.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Jason Calacanis, No Agenda Bakery, and Stroopwafel Art (1:59:11–2:04:30)

Jason Calacanis of the *All In* podcast credits Adam Curry for the "Value-for-Value" concept and discusses his own history in tech media. The segment transitions to the weekly album art competition, where Darren O'Neill's "No Agenda Bakery" stroopwafel design won for Episode 1729. The hosts debate the proper Dutch method of eating a stroopwafel, which involves softening it over a hot cup of coffee.

Keywords: [jason calacanis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jason-calacanis.md), [all in podcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/all-in-podcast.md), [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md), [stroopwafel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stroopwafel.md), [album art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/album-art.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/24.md)

### 25. 2024 Artist Leaderboard and Satellite Skirmish (2:04:31–2:07:56)

The 2024 artist leaderboard results name Francisco Scaramanga as the top contributor with 15 wins, followed by Kenny Benn and Darren O'Neill. Scaramanga is awarded the "Master of Fine Arts" (MFA) title. The hosts also promote "Satellite Skirmish," a musical stream produced by the No Agenda community that follows the main broadcast.

Keywords: [francisco scaramanga](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/francisco-scaramanga.md), master of fine arts, satellite skirmish, [no agenda nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-nation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Executive Producer Credits and Data Backup Tips (2:07:57–2:12:52)

Executive Producers Eric Reinhard and Sir Tyler of Alaska contribute to the show, with Tyler sharing insights on how middle managers use AI chatbots more effectively than programmers. Sir Kevin Dills provides a "Dvorak tip" for data security: swapping external hard drives with a trusted friend or neighbor to ensure off-site backups without relying on cloud services.

Keywords: eric reinhard, tyler systems, [data backup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-backup.md), external hard drives, mcluhan

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Truth Cabal Admissions and Florida Meetup Drama (2:12:53–2:17:50)

A donor named Ben requests admission to the "Truth Cabal" and asks for a "Leo Yell" in honor of his introduction to the show. The hosts express concern over the sudden dissolution of the South Central Florida meetup group, formerly led by the "Reiki Princess." They call for area members to regroup and reach out via email to rebuild their local network.

Keywords: [reiki princess](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reiki-princess.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), truth cabal, covid reports

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Stradivarius Auction and the Drop.io Fiasco (2:17:52–2:23:07)

In an "Ask Adam" segment, the hosts discuss a 1714 Stradivarius violin expected to fetch $18 million at auction. This leads to a reminiscence about the "Drop.io fiasco," where a Silicon Valley startup's closure resulted in the loss of years of podcast clips. Adam Curry uses the event as a cautionary tale about trusting cloud-based services and the importance of local backups.

Keywords: stradivarius, yo-yo ma, [drop.io](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drop-io.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [data loss](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-loss.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Rick Santorum and the 2012 "Why" Linguistic Habit (2:23:08–2:27:40)

Using the search tool Bingit.io, a producer uncovers a 2012 clip of the hosts deconstructing Rick Santorum's speech patterns. They specifically highlight his habit of inserting the word "why" into sentences as a rhetorical device to force affirmation from the listener. The hosts reflect on how they have been deconstructing the same media tropes for over a decade.

Keywords: [rick santorum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-santorum.md), [meet the press](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meet-the-press.md), [linguistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linguistics.md), [bingit.io](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bingit-io.md), [2012 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2012-election.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Germany's AfD Party and Alice Weidel's Candidacy (2:27:41–2:30:49)

The Alternative for Germany (AfD) party confirms Alice Weidel as its candidate for chancellor in the upcoming elections. Despite her "libertarian conservative" label and personal life, mainstream German parties maintain a "firewall" to prevent the AfD from entering power. The hosts compare this to political shifts in Austria and the Netherlands, where populist parties have gained significant ground.

Keywords: [afd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afd.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [alice weidel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alice-weidel.md), [far-right](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/far-right.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/30.md)

### 31. YouTube "Algo Chasers" and Dan Bongino's Security Warnings (2:30:49–2:36:58)

The hosts coin the term "Algo Chasers" to describe YouTubers who prioritize platform algorithms over building a sovereign audience. They critique a segment from Patrick Bet-David's show where Dan Bongino warns that the Secret Service and FBI are "lying" to the Trump transition team. Bongino expresses grave concern for Donald Trump's safety at the upcoming inauguration, a narrative the hosts view as "spinning people up" for views.

Keywords: [dan bongino](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-bongino.md), [patrick bet-david](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patrick-bet-david.md), [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [secret service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secret-service.md), [inauguration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inauguration.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Guy Kawasaki, Michael Dell, and Broken Promises (2:37:01–2:41:22)

John C. Dvorak shares anecdotes about tech luminaries Guy Kawasaki and Michael Dell. He recalls Kawasaki's humorless reaction to a "conflict of interest" joke and his insistence that Adam Curry get a COVID-19 vaccine. Dvorak also claims Michael Dell once reneged on a promise to provide a computer in exchange for promotional work during a product rollout.

Keywords: [guy kawasaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/guy-kawasaki.md), [michael dell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-dell.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [comdex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comdex.md), [covid vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-vaccine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/32.md)

### 33. No Agenda Fudge and Political Ambassadorships (2:41:22–2:46:04)

The hosts thank the "No Agenda Fudge" producers for their support and transition into a discussion about political "pay-to-play" schemes. They cite a report that donor Tim Gill received a medal after contributing $400,000 to the Biden campaign, while his partner was named an ambassador. The hosts jokingly suggest offering "No Agenda Ambassadorships" for a fee.

Keywords: tim gill, [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), ambassadorships, medals of freedom, [fudge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fudge.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Russian Energy Sanctions and Mark Zuckerberg's Policy Shift (2:46:05–2:50:47)

The Biden administration announced new sanctions against Russia's energy sector and a fleet of 180 vessels to impact the war in Ukraine. Meanwhile, President Biden criticized Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg for abandoning third-party fact-checking on Facebook and Instagram. Zuckerberg recently testified that while the government pressured Meta to censor content, the final decisions were his own, a stance he is now reversing in favor of "free expression."

Keywords: [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Donald Trump's Sentencing and Felony Travel Restrictions (2:50:48–2:55:01)

Judge Juan Merchan delivered an unconditional discharge for Donald Trump's 34 felony convictions, citing his status as President-elect. While Trump avoids jail and fines, he remains a convicted felon, which the hosts note could theoretically restrict his travel to 38 countries. They discuss Governor Ron DeSantis's pledge to protect Trump's voting rights in Florida despite the conviction.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [juan merchan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/juan-merchan.md), [stormy daniels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stormy-daniels.md), [felony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/felony.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Media Framing of Trump's Conviction (2:55:02–2:57:57)

On PBS NewsHour, commentators David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart discuss the legacy of Trump's "hush money" case. Capehart argues that the conviction is a "just" form of accountability and predicts that every future news story about Trump will be required to mention his status as a convicted felon. The hosts mock this as "journalist bullcrap" and a sign of deep-seated media bias.

Keywords: [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [david brooks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-brooks.md), [jonathan capehart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jonathan-capehart.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Final Donor Credits and Dame Emily of Eau Claire (2:58:02–3:04:09)

The hosts read the final list of donors for Episode 1729, noting a significant dip in contributions. Emily Bauer is dubbed "Dame Emily of Eau Claire" for her $1,000 contribution to the show. The segment includes the traditional "knighting" ceremony elements, including the offer of "Rent Boys and Chardonnay" at the No Agenda roundtable and the mailing of a signet ring.

Keywords: emily bauer, eau claire, [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Global Meetup Reports and "Gobsmackingly Bananas" ISOs (3:04:13–3:10:13)

Producers from Los Angeles, Milwaukee, and Oklahoma send in audio reports from their local meetups. One LA producer reports attending the meetup at the HMS Bounty despite their house burning down in the recent fires. The hosts close the segment by testing new "In Search Of" (ISO) audio clips, including the phrase "gobsmackingly bananas" from the earlier climate discussion.

Keywords: [los angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-angeles.md), [milwaukee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/milwaukee.md), [oklahoma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), hms bounty

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Hunter Biden Gag Gift and True People Search Tip (3:10:14–3:20:46)

In the "Tip of the Day," Adam Curry suggests the "Laptop from Hell" book as a humorous gag gift. John C. Dvorak provides a controversial tip regarding TruePeopleSearch.com, a site that reveals personal addresses, phone numbers, and family connections for free. He explains a technique for isolating a person's active email address using blind carbon copies, which Curry describes as "horrific" and "dangerous."

Keywords: [hunter biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hunter-biden.md), truepeoplesearch, [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [gag gift](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gag-gift.md), laptop from hell

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1729-algo-chasers/chapter/39.md)

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