# Quademic

> A doctor with radical ties strikes a German Christmas market despite international warnings while the pharmaceutical industry faces new litigation and a Quaddemic marketing push.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1723
- **Published:** 2024-12-22
- **Length:** 3h 13m
- **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host)
- **Topics:** Magdeburg attack, CVS lawsuit, Biometric boarding, [Quaddemic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quaddemic.md), Syria transition, Norovirus mRNA, Taqiyya
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic

## About this episode

The Saudi government issued four separate warnings to German intelligence regarding Talib al-Abdul Mohsen before he drove a vehicle into a Christmas market in Magdeburg, killing five people. While media outlets like the BBC and PBS initially framed the doctor as a far-right atheist, leaked chat logs suggest connections to radical Islamist networks and the practice of Taqiyya. The fallout has intensified pressure on German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser as the country heads toward national elections.

In the United States, the Department of Justice filed a major lawsuit against CVS for allegedly filling unlawful opioid prescriptions over the last decade. Simultaneously, the CDC reports a spike in Mycoplasma bacteria cases among toddlers, while the NHS introduces the Quaddemic branding to drive uptake for mRNA Norovirus and RSV vaccines. In Syria, international delegations have arrived in Damascus following the fall of Bashar al-Assad, leading the U.S. to scrap a $10 million bounty for de facto leader Ahmed al-Sharaa.

Adam Curry reports from Florence on the full implementation of biometric facial recognition at Delta Airlines gates, eliminating the need for physical passports. John C. Dvorak warns of a Blue Sky impersonation scam that defrauded a listener of $333. The episode features a musical tribute to the New Jersey drone sightings and a look at the absurd concept of a vegan strip club stabbing.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/transcript.md.

### 1. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak, Florence and Silicon Valley (0:00–1:43)

Adam Curry broadcasts from Florence, Italy, while John C. Dvorak joins from a rainy Northern Silicon Valley. Curry clarifies his travel itinerary, explaining he visited Amsterdam before traveling to Italy for his brother-in-law's 60th birthday. The hosts prepare for the Sunday, December 22, 2024, episode of the No Agenda show.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [florence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florence.md), [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [christmas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christmas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Value for Value Documentary, New Jersey Drone Psyop (1:44–3:45)

A filmmaker named Parker is producing a documentary on the Value for Value model and has been encouraged to interview John C. Dvorak. Curry recounts meeting the filmmaker at Antone's in Austin, describing the man's visible distress over rumors of a "loose nuke" in New York. This anxiety is attributed to a psychological operation involving drone sightings in New Jersey and New York.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [documentary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/documentary.md), [new jersey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-jersey.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [psyop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psyop.md), [airbnb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbnb.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Delta Airlines Travel Delays, Biometric Boarding Systems (3:46–5:56)

Travel from Austin to Florence via New York involved a four-hour delay due to a pilot shortage at Delta Airlines. Curry observes that TSA and Delta have fully implemented facial recognition for international boarding, eliminating the need for physical passports or boarding passes at the gate. The system relies on biometric data already stored in the federal database.

Keywords: [delta airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-airlines.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [facial recognition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facial-recognition.md), biometric boarding, [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Italian Political Sentiment, Giorgia Meloni and Donald Trump (5:57–8:27)

Locals in Florence express strong support for Donald Trump, often praising his perceived strength. The discussion shifts to Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, noting her complex public interactions with Joe Biden and her affinity for Elon Musk. Meloni reportedly requested that Musk present her with a specific award, signaling a shift in Italian political alignment.

Keywords: [giorgia meloni](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/giorgia-meloni.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [florence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/4.md)

### 5. NATO Defense Spending, Mark Rutte and Financial Times Report (8:29–12:49)

The Financial Times reports that Donald Trump intends to demand NATO members increase defense spending to 5% of GDP, though he may settle for 3.5%. NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte responded by suggesting that spending must exceed 2% and could reach 4% if coupled with innovation and joint procurement. The hosts criticize Rutte for appearing to negotiate against himself before formal discussions begin.

Keywords: [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [mark rutte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-rutte.md), [financial times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/financial-times.md), [gdp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gdp.md), [defense spending](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/defense-spending.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Italian Mountain Travel Caper, Windshield Wiper Bribery (12:50–15:15)

A trip to the mountains near Florence was complicated when a bus's windshield wiper motor failed during a storm. To ensure they returned in time for the podcast, Curry's nephews reportedly bribed the driver to navigate halfway down the mountain to meet a relief bus. The incident is described as a "total Italian caper" involving local resourcefulness and cash incentives.

Keywords: [florence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florence.md), [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), bus driver, [bribery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bribery.md), [travel anecdote](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travel-anecdote.md), cable car

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/6.md)

### 7. COVID Retrospective, Best Of Episode Review (15:16–16:52)

The hosts review the recent "Best Of" episode produced by Bill Walsh, titled "This Really Happened." The retrospective focused on the early stages of the COVID-19 pandemic and the messaging used prior to the vaccine rollout. Listeners reacted strongly to the reminder of past government and media claims, noting how quickly the public has forgotten the specific details of the 2020 response.

Keywords: [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [bill walsh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-walsh.md), [vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine.md), [retrospective](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/retrospective.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Howie Mandel Podcast, RFK Jr. and Vaccine Efficacy Claims (16:53–20:25)

Comedian Howie Mandel expressed disbelief during an interview with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. regarding past claims that the COVID-19 vaccine would prevent transmission. Clips are played showing Mandel and his staff denying that public figures like Anthony Fauci or Joe Biden ever promised 100% efficacy. The hosts argue this demonstrates a "last-in, first-out" memory issue among the public regarding shifting pandemic narratives.

Keywords: [howie mandel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howie-mandel.md), [rfk jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rfk-jr.md), [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Avian Influenza Media Coverage, CDC Severe Case Reports (20:26–25:53)

NPR and ABC News report on the first "severe" case of H5N1 bird flu in a Louisiana resident over age 65. Media messaging emphasizes the "stickiness" or transmissibility of the virus as it mutates in birds and cattle. California Governor Gavin Newsom has declared a state of emergency to address the outbreak, while health officials warn the public against "petting dead animals" or consuming raw milk.

Keywords: [h5n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h5n1.md), [bird flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bird-flu.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/9.md)

### 10. H5N1 Strains, Backyard Chickens and Raw Milk Warnings (25:54–29:44)

Dr. Celine Gounder discusses different strains of H5N1, claiming the human case in Louisiana differs from the strain found in dairy cattle. The hosts mock the suggestion that backyard chicken owners should call animal control for dead birds. They argue the current media focus on the dangers of raw milk is a coordinated effort to discourage independent food sources.

Keywords: [h5n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h5n1.md), [raw milk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raw-milk.md), [backyard chickens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/backyard-chickens.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celine-gounder.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/10.md)

### 11. European Food Quality, Healthcare Cost Comparisons (29:44–31:50)

Curry compares the high quality of raw milk cheeses and local food in Italy to the "slop" served in America. He notes that Italian food often features "0 km" labeling, indicating extreme locality. The conversation touches on the disparity between US health insurance costs and the more affordable, though sometimes slower, European socialized systems.

Keywords: [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [food labeling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-labeling.md), raw cheese, [healthcare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [rfk jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rfk-jr.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Quaddemic Branding, NHS Winter Virus Warnings (31:51–34:21)

The UK's National Health Service (NHS) has introduced the term "Quaddemic" to describe the simultaneous threat of Norovirus, Coronavirus, Influenza, and RSV. US media outlets like NBC have adopted the term, warning that European trends often mirror future American conditions. Health officials use this branding to urge citizens to receive multiple vaccinations before the holiday season.

Keywords: [quaddemic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quaddemic.md), [nhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nhs.md), [flu shot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu-shot.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Norovirus Characteristics, mRNA Vaccine Development (34:24–39:34)

The BBC reports on the development of mRNA vaccines for Norovirus, traditionally known as the "24-hour bug." The hosts discuss the symptoms of the virus, including intense gastrointestinal distress, and note its recent branding as a major public health threat. Vaccination rates for the flu and COVID-19 are reportedly lower than desired, leading to increased media pressure for uptake.

Keywords: [norovirus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norovirus.md), [mrna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mrna.md), [vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [rsv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rsv.md), [flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Los Angeles Norovirus Outbreak, Raw Oysters Warning (39:34–42:02)

At least 80 people in Los Angeles contracted Norovirus after consuming raw oysters from Santa Monica Seafood. The FDA has issued warnings regarding oysters and clams sourced from British Columbia. Dr. Vin Gupta explains that the virus spreads rapidly in environments like cruise ships and through contaminated seafood distributors.

Keywords: [norovirus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norovirus.md), [oysters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oysters.md), [santa monica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/santa-monica.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [british columbia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/british-columbia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/14.md)

### 15. RSV History, CVS Opioid Lawsuit (42:03–45:25)

The hosts question the sudden prominence of Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV) in news cycles, noting it was rarely mentioned a decade ago. In other pharmaceutical news, the Department of Justice has filed a lawsuit against CVS, alleging the pharmacy chain filled unlawful opioid prescriptions and violated the Controlled Substances Act over the past ten years.

Keywords: [rsv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rsv.md), [cvs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cvs.md), [opioids](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opioids.md), [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md), [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Walking Pneumonia Spike, Mycoplasma Bacteria in Toddlers (45:27–50:10)

The CDC is tracking an uptick in "walking pneumonia," caused by Mycoplasma bacteria, particularly among toddlers and school-aged children. Dr. Donald Dunford explains that the illness typically follows a three-to-five-year cycle, which was disrupted during the COVID-19 pandemic. The hosts remain skeptical of the "contagiousness" narrative being used to drive pediatric medical visits.

Keywords: walking pneumonia, mycoplasma, [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [toddlers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toddlers.md), [infectious disease](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infectious-disease.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Whooping Cough Increase, Ozempic Marketing in Netherlands (50:11–54:01)

Health officials report a spike in whooping cough cases, attributing the rise to a lack of population exposure during pandemic lockdowns. In the Netherlands, Ozempic is reportedly being marketed through rumors that the Dutch princesses are using the drug for weight loss. The hosts discuss the potential for future mRNA treatments for various common ailments.

Keywords: [whooping cough](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whooping-cough.md), [ozempic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ozempic.md), dutch royalty, [mrna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mrna.md), [antibiotics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antibiotics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Government Shutdown Avoidance, Debt Ceiling Negotiations (54:03–57:57)

Congress passed a spending bill to avoid a government shutdown until mid-March 2025, though it excluded Donald Trump's demand to address the debt limit. The bill includes funding for disaster aid and farmers. Media coverage focused on the perceived tension between Trump and fiscal conservatives like Chip Roy regarding the debt ceiling.

Keywords: [government shutdown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/government-shutdown.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [debt ceiling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debt-ceiling.md), [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md), disaster aid

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Elon Musk's Influence, Pediatric Cancer Research Funding (57:57–1:02:25)

Media outlets, including PBS and MSNBC, have labeled Elon Musk the "shadow president," suggesting he influenced the budget to protect his investments in China. Critics also accused Republicans of cutting pediatric cancer research funding from the continuing resolution. The hosts argue these reports are designed to create friction between Trump and Musk.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), pediatric cancer, [budget cuts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budget-cuts.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/19.md)

### 20. The View Commentary, Whoopi Goldberg's Stairway Remark (1:02:26–1:05:51)

On *The View*, Whoopi Goldberg made a controversial remark about people "tripping" the president on the stairs, which she later clarified as a lighthearted holiday comment. The panel discussed the power dynamics between Trump, J.D. Vance, and Elon Musk. The hosts note that ABC and Disney are making rapid corporate adjustments in response to shifting political climates.

Keywords: [the view](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-view.md), [whoopi goldberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whoopi-goldberg.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [j.d. vance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/j-d-vance.md), [abc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Magdeburg Christmas Market Attack, Media Narrative Analysis (1:05:52–1:10:24)

A man drove a vehicle into a Christmas market in Magdeburg, Germany, killing five people and injuring 200. Initial media reports from PBS and the BBC characterized the suspect as a "far-right" sympathizer or an atheist ex-Muslim motivated by the treatment of refugees. The hosts criticize BBC correspondent Helena Humphrey for her framing of the event.

Keywords: magdeburg, [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), christmas market, [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [helena humphrey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/helena-humphrey.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Suspect Talib al-Abdul Mohsen, Saudi Government Warnings (1:10:25–1:14:06)

The suspect in the Magdeburg attack is identified as 50-year-old doctor Talib al-Abdul Mohsen. Reports indicate the Saudi government had previously issued four official warnings to German intelligence regarding his extreme views. Despite these warnings, German officials are investigating whether the motive was linked to "disgruntlement" with the state rather than religious extremism.

Keywords: talib al-abdul mohsen, [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [olaf scholz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/olaf-scholz.md), magdeburg, [afd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afd.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Disinformation Claims, German Political Fallout (1:14:07–1:17:39)

Some counterterrorism experts suggest the Saudi warnings were part of a disinformation campaign to blacken the suspect's name because he was a dissident. German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser has referred to the suspect's social media posts as "Islamophobic." The attack has fueled intense debate over immigration and security ahead of the February national elections in Germany.

Keywords: [disinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disinformation.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [afd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afd.md), [islamophobia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/islamophobia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Persecution Complex, Elon Musk and Tommy Robinson (1:17:39–1:21:43)

Analysts describe the suspect as having a "persecution complex" against the German state. Media reports highlight his activity on X (formerly Twitter), where he reportedly shared content from Elon Musk and Tommy Robinson. The hosts argue that the media is attempting to link the violence to "right-wing extremism" and Musk's platform policies.

Keywords: persecution complex, [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [tommy robinson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tommy-robinson.md), x, [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Taqiyya Practice, Radical Shia Muslim Identity (1:21:43–1:26:46)

An Iranian-German activist named Morale argues that the suspect was not an atheist but a radical Shia Muslim practicing "Taqiyya"—the Islamic practice of deception to advance religious goals. Leaked chat logs suggest connections to radical Islamist networks. The hosts contend the "right-wing" narrative is a cover-up for a sectarian jihadist agenda.

Keywords: taqiyya, shia islam, [jihadist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jihadist.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), magdeburg

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Content Monitoring Criticism, X Platform Liability (1:26:46–1:29:26)

Mainstream media outlets blame the Magdeburg attack on a lack of content monitoring on X, following Elon Musk's staff reductions. Critics argue that if the suspect's "conspiratorial narratives" had been removed, the violence might have been prevented. The hosts dismiss this as an attempt to hold Musk responsible for the actions of a disturbed individual.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), x, content monitoring, [trust and safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trust-and-safety.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/26.md)

### 27. TikTok Ban Legal Challenges, First Amendment Arguments (1:29:27–1:33:27)

The legal battle over the potential TikTok ban continues as ByteDance argues the law violates the First Amendment. The government maintains the issue is about foreign ownership and data security rather than speech. The hosts suggest the ban is driven by anti-competitive pressure from Silicon Valley companies like Google, whose lobbyists have heavily donated to the bill's sponsors.

Keywords: [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [bytedance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bytedance.md), [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Trump's Stance on TikTok, Anti-Competitive Tech Policy (1:33:27–1:36:51)

Donald Trump recently met with the TikTok CEO at Mar-a-Lago and appears to have softened his stance on a ban. While the law is set to take effect on January 19, 2025, Trump could potentially direct his Attorney General not to enforce it or seek a repeal from Congress. The hosts argue the ban is a tool for incompetent US tech firms to stifle competition.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [mar-a-lago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mar-a-lago.md), [attorney general](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/attorney-general.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/28.md)

### 29. TikTok Election Interference Theory, January 20th Protest Call (1:36:51–1:39:50)

A viral TikTok video features a man claiming that Executive Order 13848 will be used to reveal foreign interference and prevent Trump's inauguration. The creator calls for 11 million people to converge on Washington D.C. on January 20th to force Trump to step down. The hosts mock the delusional nature of these "failsafe" plans.

Keywords: [executive order 13848](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-order-13848.md), [election interference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-interference.md), [washington dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-dc.md), [protest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/protest.md), [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Project 2025 Claims, Rosie O'Donnell on Elon Musk (1:39:50–1:43:01)

TikTok creators continue to claim that Donald Trump has endorsed "Project 2025," despite his denials. Meanwhile, Rosie O'Donnell posted a video questioning how Elon Musk was "allowed" to buy the presidency and criticized the aesthetics of Tesla vehicles. The hosts view these clips as the desperate efforts of a fading political demographic.

Keywords: [project 2025](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/project-2025.md), [heritage foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heritage-foundation.md), [rosie o'donnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rosie-o-donnell.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Tri-Gender Identity, Gender Fluidity Definitions (1:43:02–1:44:42)

A TikTok creator explains the concept of being "tri-gender," which involves identifying as male, female, and non-binary simultaneously. The creator distinguishes this from being gender fluid, as the three identities do not shift over time. The hosts use the clip to highlight what they perceive as the increasingly confusing nature of modern social media discourse.

Keywords: tri-gender, [non-binary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/non-binary.md), [gender identity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-identity.md), [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Daniel Baldwin on Diddy Tapes, Jeffrey Epstein Theories (1:44:44–1:48:04)

Actor Daniel Baldwin discusses rumors of a "bidding war" for compromising videos from Sean "Diddy" Combs' parties. He suggests that famous actors and politicians are paying to keep their involvement private. The conversation links these allegations to the Jeffrey Epstein case, with Baldwin questioning whether Trump will eventually release the related files.

Keywords: daniel baldwin, [sean combs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sean-combs.md), [diddy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diddy.md), [jeffrey epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-epstein.md), [blackmail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackmail.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Holiday Media Cadence, Podcast App Recommendations (1:48:05–1:50:05)

The hosts note that many mainstream media "A-list" hosts are on vacation for Christmas, leaving "B and C-listers" to fill in. They emphasize their commitment to broadcasting live despite the holidays. Listeners are encouraged to use modern podcast apps found at PodcastApps.com rather than inferior services.

Keywords: [podcast apps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-apps.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), media hosts, [holiday schedule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holiday-schedule.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Blue Sky Impersonation Scam, No Agenda Art Generator (1:50:05–1:52:21)

John C. Dvorak warns that a scammer on the Blue Sky platform impersonated him and defrauded a listener of $333. He clarifies his official handle and advises caution. The hosts also thank Nick the Rat for the artwork for episode 1722, which was selected via the No Agenda Art Generator.

Keywords: [blue sky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blue-sky.md), [impersonation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impersonation.md), [scam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scam.md), [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), [nick the rat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nick-the-rat.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Executive Producer Donations, Wholesome Story Supplements (1:52:21–1:57:11)

Singhee Detlefsen, a former Amazon employee, donates $1,000 and promotes his business, Wholesome Story, which sells Inositol supplements for women with PCOS. He discusses the challenges of competing with Chinese e-commerce and advocates for natural health options. Other producers are recognized for their financial support and "de-douching" requests.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), inositol, pcos, [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [e-commerce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/e-commerce.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/35.md)

### 36. No Agenda Shop, Peerage Title Upgrades (1:57:13–2:02:18)

The No Agenda Shop contributes $851.74 from merchandise sales. Several listeners receive peerage upgrades, including Sir Don becoming the Baron of Chandler and Sir Rick becoming the Duke of Washington. The hosts read notes from producers who have shifted their spending from platforms like X to support the podcast.

Keywords: [no agenda shop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-shop.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [duke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/duke.md), [baron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baron.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Listener Meetup Anecdotes, Youth Group Service Trips (2:02:19–2:05:42)

Alex and Annie from Rochester, New York, donate after meeting Adam Curry and his wife Tina at the Florence airport baggage claim. Another producer, Jason from Brookfield, Wisconsin, requests support for his daughter's youth group service trip to Alaska through Anchor Falls Church.

Keywords: [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [florence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florence.md), [baggage claim](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baggage-claim.md), [milwaukee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/milwaukee.md), [alaska](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alaska.md), [church](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/church.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/37.md)

### 38. No Agenda Fudge, New Jersey Drone Song (2:05:42–2:10:41)

Sir Zach promotes NoAgendaFudge.com for holiday gifts. Shane Larson from Anchorage, Alaska, submits a song created with Suno AI about the New Jersey drone sightings. The hosts acknowledge various "de-douching" requests and jingle applications from first-time and returning donors.

Keywords: [fudge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fudge.md), [suno ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suno-ai.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [new jersey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-jersey.md), [anchorage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anchorage.md), [alaska](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alaska.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/38.md)

### 39. European Nationalism, GigaWatt Coffee Promotion (2:10:42–2:15:16)

A donor from Oslo, Norway, living in Spain, discusses the rise of "liberal nationalism" as an antidote to globalism in Western Europe. Eli the Coffee Guy promotes GigaWatt Coffee Roasters, offering a discount to listeners. Ian Sloan from Western Australia sends greetings and requests "yak karma."

Keywords: [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md), [spain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spain.md), [nationalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nationalism.md), [gigawatt coffee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gigawatt-coffee.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Patent Illustration Services, Elohim Worldview Discussion (2:15:16–2:19:02)

Aaron Johnson promotes his patent drawing business, Patent Illustration Studios. Curtis Thomas suggests producers research Dr. Michael Heiser's "Deuteronomy 32 worldview" regarding the Elohim. The segment concludes with final associate executive producer recognitions and "F-35 karma" for Sir Ron Noren.

Keywords: patent attorney, elohim, michael heiser, [f-35](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-35.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Clarissa Ward Controversy, Justin Trudeau Resignation Rumors (2:19:02–2:23:04)

CNN's Clarissa Ward is criticized for a report involving the release of a notorious Syrian regime torturer. In Canada, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau faces increasing public hostility and calls for resignation. Clips feature Canadian citizens accusing Trudeau of betraying the country to globalist interests and demanding an immediate election.

Keywords: [clarissa ward](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clarissa-ward.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [justin trudeau](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justin-trudeau.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [treason](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treason.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Syria Transition, HTS and International Delegations (2:23:04–2:28:41)

Following the fall of Bashar al-Assad, international delegations from the US, UK, and EU have arrived in Damascus. The US has reportedly scrapped a $10 million bounty for Syria's de facto leader, Ahmed al-Sharaa. Reports on humanitarian needs and infrastructure collapse are met with skepticism by the hosts, who question the sudden shift in the "terrorist" designation of HTS.

Keywords: [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [damascus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/damascus.md), hts, [bashar al-assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bashar-al-assad.md), [humanitarian aid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/humanitarian-aid.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Igor Kirillov Assassination, Moscow Scooter Bombing (2:28:42–2:33:06)

Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov, head of Russia's chemical and biological weapons unit, was assassinated in Moscow by a remotely operated scooter bomb. Ukraine's security service claimed responsibility, citing Kirillov's alleged use of prohibited chemical weapons. The hosts doubt Ukraine's ability to execute such a high-profile hit deep inside Russia without assistance.

Keywords: igor kirillov, [moscow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moscow.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [assassination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/assassination.md), [chemical weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chemical-weapons.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Bio-Lab Documents, Global Biological Control Claims (2:33:06–2:36:18)

Prior to his death, General Kirillov frequently appeared on Russian television claiming the US operated biological labs in Ukraine. He alleged that the US creates "artificial biological crises" to profit Big Pharma and exert global control. Kirillov claimed to have sent 2,000 pages of evidence to the United Nations regarding these activities.

Keywords: [bio-labs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bio-labs.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), igor kirillov

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Key Deer Habitat, Sea Level Rise Projections (2:36:21–2:40:09)

The endangered Key deer, a small subspecies of white-tailed deer in the Florida Keys, is reportedly threatened by rising sea levels. NOAA estimates suggest sea levels could rise between 1.5 and 7 feet in the next 75 years. The hosts mock the wide range of these projections and the "gentle" framing of the species' plight.

Keywords: key deer, [florida keys](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida-keys.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [noaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noaa.md), [sea level](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sea-level.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Global Temperature Records, Billion-Dollar Disaster Metric (2:40:10–2:43:25)

CBS News reports that 2024 is set to be the hottest year on record, potentially exceeding the 1.5-degree Celsius threshold established by the Paris Climate Accord. The US experienced 24 "billion-dollar weather disasters" in 2024. The hosts argue that the "billion-dollar" metric is a moving target due to inflation and that climate change is being used as a "juiced" explanation for all weather events.

Keywords: [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [paris accord](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paris-accord.md), billion-dollar disasters, [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [snow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/snow.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Vegan Strip Club Stabbing, Show Wrap-Up (2:43:26–2:44:48)

A 29-year-old man pleaded not guilty to attempted murder after allegedly stabbing a DJ at a vegan strip club. The hosts find the concept of a "vegan strip club" absurd and use it as a closing news item. They prepare to transition into the final donation acknowledgments and end-of-show mixes.

Keywords: vegan strip club, attempted murder, [portland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/portland.md), [raven](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raven.md), news oddity

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Damehood Inductions, Birthday and Memorial Donations (2:44:48–2:50:09)

Dame Steph of The Dark Side is inducted into the peerage following a "switcheroo" donation from her son. The hosts acknowledge a memorial donation for "Big Mac" and several birthday contributions. Listeners from Hawaii, Iceland, and the Czech Republic are recognized for their support of the "Best Podcast in the Universe."

Keywords: [damehood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/damehood.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [memorial](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/memorial.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Final Donor Roll, No Agenda Merch and Stickers (2:50:10–2:55:00)

The final list of $50 donors is read, covering producers from Texas, Virginia, and Oregon. The hosts promote NoAgendaMerch.com for stickers and other gear. They emphasize that all proceeds from certain shops are donated back to the show to maintain its "Value for Value" model.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [stickers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stickers.md), no agenda merch, [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Peerage Roundtable, New Knights and Dames (2:55:00–2:58:21)

New Knights and Dames, including Dame Nikki Ray and Sir Singhee, are officially welcomed to the Roundtable. The hosts perform the traditional ceremony, listing the various fictional refreshments available to the new peers. Listeners are encouraged to visit NoAgendaRings.com to view the official signet rings.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [damehood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/damehood.md), [roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roundtable.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [cignet rings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cignet-rings.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Meetup Reports, West Palm Beach Axe Throwing (2:58:22–3:02:47)

Producers report on successful meetups in Indianapolis and West Palm Beach, the latter involving axe throwing and "special treatment" from an axe mistress. A "Resist We Much" meetup is scheduled for Los Banos, California. The hosts encourage listeners to start their own local meetups to foster real-world human connections.

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), axe throwing, [west palm beach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/west-palm-beach.md), [indianapolis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indianapolis.md), los banos

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/51.md)

### 52. Public Library Audiobook Scam, Digital Copy Over-Purchasing (3:02:48–3:06:18)

A "tip of the day" suggests that public libraries are over-purchasing digital copies of audiobooks by political figures like Stacey Abrams and Michelle Obama. The contributor notes that while classical literature has few copies, these political titles have hundreds of digital licenses that remain largely unchecked. The hosts characterize this as a scam to funnel public funds to specific authors.

Keywords: public libraries, [audiobooks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audiobooks.md), [stacey abrams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stacey-abrams.md), [michelle obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-obama.md), government funds

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/52.md)

### 53. Goya Adobo Seasoning, Wheat-Free Spice Tips (3:06:19–3:09:32)

John C. Dvorak recommends Goya Adobo seasoning as a versatile spice blend for meats and salads. He specifically highlights that it contains no wheat, making it safe for those with allergies. He advises shopping at large Mexican "Mercados" to find the authentic plain or pepper versions of the seasoning.

Keywords: [goya](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goya.md), [adobo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adobo.md), [spices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spices.md), wheat-free, [cooking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cooking.md), [mimi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mimi.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/53.md)

### 54. End of Show Mix, Christmas Miracle and Sign-Off (3:09:35–3:12:59)

The episode concludes with a musical mix by Jeff Crocker and Sir Joho, incorporating clips about the Los Angeles drone sightings. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off from Florence and Silicon Valley, respectively, promising to return for the next show on Thursday. The hosts wish the "Gitmo Nation" a Merry Christmas.

Keywords: drone sightings, [christmas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christmas.md), [florence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florence.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1723-quademic/chapter/54.md)

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