# Sloppin' Hopper

> A devastating Florida hurricane season collides with a high-stakes media blitz as federal agencies face staffing shortages and presidential candidates bypass traditional journalists for podcasts.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1702
- **Published:** 2024-10-10
- **Length:** 3h 4m
- **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host)
- **Topics:** [Hurricane Milton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-milton.md), FEMA staffing, [60 Minutes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/60-minutes.md), [Jack Smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jack-smith.md), Boeing strike, Lead pipes, Project Cirrus
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper

## About this episode

Governor Ron DeSantis and President Joe Biden clashed over the federal response to Hurricane Milton as the storm's unexpected tornado outbreak devastated Florida's Gulf Coast. While DeSantis waived tolls to accelerate evacuations, Biden condemned Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene for claiming the government controls the weather. The destruction of Tropicana Field's roof in St. Petersburg serves as a stark visual of the storm's impact amid a heated debate over FEMA's personnel availability and funding priorities.

Media narratives from MSNBC and NPR face scrutiny for linking hurricane frequency to climate change despite NOAA data showing no actual increase in U.S. landfalls. In the legal arena, Special Counsel Jack Smith released new filings alleging Donald Trump showed indifference during the January 6th Capitol riot, while Bob Woodward’s book War claims Trump secretly sent Abbott COVID-19 testing machines to Vladimir Putin. Simultaneously, Vice President Kamala Harris defended her policy shifts on 60 Minutes and Howard Stern, as CBS News faced accusations of editing her responses to improve her public image.

General Mark Milley predicts a robotic military future with drone tanks and AI-driven warfare within fifteen years. Former Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters received a nine-year prison sentence for election tampering, while Boeing’s machinist strike threatens the aerospace giant with a billion-dollar monthly loss. John C. Dvorak warns listeners to use Check Flash to verify fraudulent AliExpress drives, and Adam Curry welcomes Sir Zev Mo to the No Agenda roundtable.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/transcript.md.

### 1. Hurricane Milton, Florida Tornadoes, Governor Ron DeSantis (0:00–5:34)

Governor Ron DeSantis receives praise for his administrative competence during Hurricane Milton, specifically for waiving expressway tolls to facilitate evacuations. Reports indicate that while storm surge was significant, the media failed to predict the 126 tornadoes that caused unexpected destruction across Florida. Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg suffered visible damage as its vinyl roof was shredded by high winds.

Keywords: [ron desantis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-desantis.md), [hurricane milton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-milton.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [tornadoes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tornadoes.md), tropicana field

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Joe Biden, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Weather Modification Claims (5:34–8:45)

President Joe Biden condemned what he termed an "onslaught of lies" regarding the federal response to Hurricane Helene and Hurricane Milton. Biden specifically addressed claims by Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene regarding government control of the weather, calling the assertions "beyond ridiculous." The administration clarified that FEMA funds are not being diverted to migrants and that disaster victims are eligible for more than just a $750 cash payment.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [marjorie taylor greene](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marjorie-taylor-greene.md), [weather modification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-modification.md), [fema](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema.md), [hurricane helene](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-helene.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/2.md)

### 3. MSNBC, Chris Hayes, Climate Change Narrative (8:45–13:16)

MSNBC and other media outlets are criticized for aggressively linking recent hurricanes to human-driven climate change. Meteorologist John Morales became emotional on air while discussing the rapid intensification of Hurricane Milton, citing greenhouse gas injections as the cause. Critics argue that media reporting creates false scenarios by claiming storms are becoming more frequent, despite historical data showing similar events in 1916 and 2014.

Keywords: [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [chris hayes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-hayes.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), john morales, [hurricane helene](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-helene.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/3.md)

### 4. FEMA Personnel Availability, Border Deployment, Chris Hayes Math (13:16–15:45)

Reports from the New York Times indicate that only 9% of FEMA personnel were available to respond to Hurricane Milton as of Monday morning. Speculation suggests that a significant portion of the agency's staff remains deployed to the U.S. southern border to assist with migrant processing. Additionally, MSNBC host Chris Hayes is criticized for claiming a two-degree Celsius temperature rise would make storms "twice as bad," a calculation dismissed as scientifically baseless.

Keywords: [fema](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema.md), [chris hayes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-hayes.md), [border security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/border-security.md), [hurricane milton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-milton.md), [disaster relief](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disaster-relief.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Donald Trump, JD Vance, Hurricane Conspiracy Theories (15:45–19:31)

Media outlets have attempted to link Donald Trump and JD Vance to various hurricane-related conspiracy theories. While some social media users claim storms were steered to suppress Republican votes in North Carolina and Florida, Vance has focused his criticism on FEMA's lack of focus due to border mission distractions. Critics argue that the media is intentionally conflating reasonable policy criticisms with "bizarre" weather modification theories to discredit the Republican ticket.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [jd vance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jd-vance.md), [voter suppression](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voter-suppression.md), [hurricane helene](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-helene.md), [weather modification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-modification.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/5.md)

### 6. NPR, NOAA, Hurricane Frequency Contradictions (19:32–25:13)

NOAA Administrator Rick Spinrad predicted an above-average 2024 Atlantic hurricane season due to record-breaking water temperatures. However, NPR climate editor Rachel Waldholz admitted that there has not been an actual increase in the number of hurricanes hitting the United States. This admission contradicts other media narratives claiming that storms are becoming more frequent, though Waldholz maintains they are becoming more intense.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [noaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noaa.md), rick spinrad, hurricane frequency, [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Sea Level Rise, Barometric Pressure Metrics, Hurricane Categories (25:13–28:47)

Climate scientists claim that melting ice sheets in Greenland are contributing to rising sea levels and higher storm surges in the Gulf of Mexico. There is a noted shift in meteorological reporting toward using millibars instead of inches for barometric pressure to make data seem more dramatic. Additionally, the wind speed ranges for Saffir-Simpson hurricane categories are scrutinized for being inconsistent, particularly the 27-mph range assigned to Category 4 storms.

Keywords: [sea level rise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sea-level-rise.md), millibars, hurricane categories, greenland ice sheet, wind speed

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Project Cirrus, Cloud Seeding, Weather Modification History (28:48–34:01)

Historical efforts to control weather date back to Project Cirrus after World War II, where GE and the US Army used dry ice to attempt hurricane modification. Later experiments like Project Stormfury used silver iodide for cloud seeding, though causal effects remained unproven. The discussion references a 1962 speech by Lyndon Johnson regarding weather control and recent comments by former CIA Director John Brennan on stratospheric aerosol injection (SAI) as a geoengineering tool.

Keywords: project cirrus, [cloud seeding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cloud-seeding.md), [lyndon johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lyndon-johnson.md), [john brennan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-brennan.md), [geoengineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geoengineering.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Lloyd Austin, FEMA Execution Rumors, TikTok Misinformation (34:02–36:22)

A viral TikTok video misidentifies Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin as the director of FEMA, leading to false claims about government plans. In the 2021 clip, Austin's verbal slip while discussing the evacuation of 70,000 to 80,000 people was misinterpreted by some users as a plan to "execute" citizens. This incident is cited as an example of how old footage is repurposed to fuel modern distrust in government agencies.

Keywords: [lloyd austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lloyd-austin.md), [fema](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema.md), [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [misinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/misinformation.md), [evacuation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evacuation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/9.md)

### 10. North Carolina National Guard, Rotor Wash Incident, Burnsville (36:23–40:23)

The North Carolina National Guard issued an apology after a helicopter pilot accidentally damaged a civilian donation center in Burnsville. While attempting to deliver generators, the rotor wash from the aircraft blew away tents and supplies, leading to social media accusations of intentional harassment. Major General Todd Hunt confirmed the crew has been grounded pending an investigation into the lack of coordination with local law enforcement.

Keywords: north carolina national guard, rotor wash, [burnsville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/burnsville.md), [helene](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/helene.md), [chinook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chinook.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Fukushima Monuments, 100-Year Cycles, Environmental Realism (40:23–42:04)

An anecdote regarding the Fukushima region in Japan describes historical monuments placed on hilltops to warn future generations about recurring tsunamis. These markers indicate that such disasters occur on roughly 100-year cycles, suggesting that modern extreme weather may be part of natural planetary rhythms rather than solely driven by human activity. The discussion posits that "Mother Earth wins every time" regardless of political narratives.

Keywords: [fukushima](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fukushima.md), [japan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/japan.md), environmental cycles, [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [monuments](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monuments.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/11.md)

### 12. CBS 60 Minutes, Kamala Harris, Interview Editing Controversy (42:05–44:09)

CBS News faces criticism for its editing of a "60 Minutes" interview with Vice President Kamala Harris. Discrepancies were noted between a promo aired on "Face the Nation" and the final broadcast, where a "word salad" response regarding Israel was replaced with a more concise answer. While defenders argue that all television interviews are edited for time and clarity, critics claim the edits were intended to make the Vice President appear more competent.

Keywords: [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [60 minutes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/60-minutes.md), [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), [face the nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/face-the-nation.md), [media editing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-editing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Kamala Harris, Media Blitz, Call Her Daddy Podcast (44:10–50:04)

Vice President Kamala Harris engaged in a high-profile media tour, appearing on "The View," "The Howard Stern Show," and the "Call Her Daddy" podcast hosted by Alex Cooper. The strategy aimed to reach younger demographics and female voters, though critics described the appearances as "softball" interviews. The "Call Her Daddy" appearance was particularly noted for its focus on reproductive rights, despite the podcast's typical focus on explicit relationship advice.

Keywords: [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), [alex cooper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-cooper.md), [call her daddy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/call-her-daddy.md), [howard stern](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howard-stern.md), [stephen colbert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-colbert.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Kamala Harris, Immigration Policy, 60 Minutes Transcript (50:05–53:35)

During her "60 Minutes" interview with Bill Whitaker, Vice President Kamala Harris was questioned on her shifting positions regarding fracking, Medicare-for-all, and immigration. Harris defended her record by stating she seeks "common ground" and "consensus" as Vice President. Whitaker pressed her on why the administration waited years to tighten border policies, a question Harris answered by emphasizing the need for Congressional action.

Keywords: [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), [60 minutes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/60-minutes.md), bill whitaker, [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md), [fracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fracking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Podcast Influence, Journalistic Standards, Presidential Debates (53:36–58:30)

Mainstream media outlets like NPR and The Atlantic have expressed concern over presidential candidates bypassing traditional journalists for long-form podcasts. Critics argue that podcasters lack journalistic training and fail to provide necessary scrutiny, while proponents suggest podcasts offer a more authentic view of candidates. There is a prediction that future presidential debates may eventually take place in a podcast format to allow for unmoderated, extended dialogue.

Keywords: [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [podcasts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasts.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [presidential election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/presidential-election.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/15.md)

### 16. NPR Analysis, Call Her Daddy, Alex Cooper Apologia (58:30–1:04:30)

NPR's "Politics Podcast" analyzed Kamala Harris's appearance on "Call Her Daddy," describing it as a strategic move to reach non-traditional news consumers. Host Alex Cooper reportedly began the episode with a lengthy explanation for why she was covering politics, leading to speculation that Spotify may have pressured the production. Critics characterized the interview as an "infomercial" for the Harris campaign's stance on abortion.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [alex cooper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-cooper.md), [call her daddy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/call-her-daddy.md), [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Jack Smith, Donald Trump, January 6th Evidence (1:04:30–1:06:56)

A new court filing from Special Counsel Jack Smith alleges that Donald Trump reacted with indifference when informed that Vice President Mike Pence was in danger during the January 6th Capitol riot. The filing claims Trump said "so what?" after being told of the chaos. Prosecutors are using these details to establish Trump's state of mind and criminal intent regarding his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.

Keywords: [jack smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jack-smith.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), [january 6th](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/january-6th.md), [justice department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justice-department.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Bob Woodward, War, Trump-Putin COVID Machines (1:06:56–1:09:09)

Bob Woodward's new book, "War," alleges that Donald Trump secretly sent COVID-19 testing equipment to Vladimir Putin for his personal use in 2020. The book also claims Trump has had as many as seven private phone calls with the Russian leader since leaving office. The Trump campaign has denied these reports, calling Woodward "demented," while the Kremlin has also issued a denial regarding the alleged conversations.

Keywords: [bob woodward](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-woodward.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Howard Stern, Kamala Harris, COVID Test Kits (1:09:09–1:13:23)

During an interview on "The Howard Stern Show," Vice President Kamala Harris criticized Donald Trump for allegedly sending COVID test kits to Vladimir Putin during a domestic shortage. Harris characterized Putin as a "murderous dictator" and framed Trump's actions as a betrayal of the American people. The discussion also notes Howard Stern's transition from a counter-culture provocateur to a supporter of the political establishment.

Keywords: [howard stern](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howard-stern.md), [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), [bob woodward](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-woodward.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [covid tests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-tests.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Media Coverage, Abbott COVID Machines, Bob Woodward (1:13:24–1:16:56)

Major news networks provided varying accounts of Bob Woodward's claims regarding Trump and Putin. While Kamala Harris referred to "test kits" in her interviews, Woodward's book specifically mentions "Abbott point-of-care" testing machines. Critics point out that NBC and other outlets failed to clarify this distinction, potentially misleading the public about the nature of the equipment sent to Russia in 2020.

Keywords: [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [abbott labs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abbott-labs.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [bob woodward](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-woodward.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Kamala Harris, Biden Administration, NBC Reporting (1:16:57–1:19:45)

Vice President Kamala Harris told ABC's "The View" that "not a thing comes to mind" when asked if she would have done anything differently than President Joe Biden over the last four years. This statement has been highlighted by critics as a potential turning point in the election. Additionally, NBC News is criticized for its "soft-peddling" of facts to align with the Harris campaign's narrative.

Keywords: [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [brian roberts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brian-roberts.md), [comcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comcast.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Tina Peters, Election Tampering, Prison Sentence (1:19:46–1:23:32)

Former Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters was sentenced to nine years in prison for her role in an election tampering case. Peters was convicted of allowing unauthorized individuals to access voting machines in a search for evidence of fraud following the 2020 election. Judge Matthew Barrett delivered a stern rebuke during sentencing, labeling Peters a "charlatan" and emphasizing that her actions posed a danger to democratic processes.

Keywords: [tina peters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tina-peters.md), mesa county, [colorado](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado.md), election tampering, [voting machines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voting-machines.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/22.md)

### 23. No Agenda Show, Value-for-Value, Podcast Apps (1:23:33–1:27:57)

Hosts Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the "value-for-value" model of the No Agenda show, which relies on listener contributions rather than advertising. They encourage the use of modern podcasting apps that support live streaming, transcripts, and chapter markers. The hosts also highlight the role of "producers"—listeners who contribute expertise and clips to the program—as essential to their media deconstruction efforts.

Keywords: [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-dvorak.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Dork MAGA, Kara Swisher, No Agenda Art (1:27:58–1:31:09)

The hosts discuss the term "Dork MAGA," a phrase used by Kara Swisher to describe Elon Musk, noting they had independently arrived at a similar description. They review the artwork for Episode 1701, submitted by Tan Stoffel, which avoided Star Trek themes despite the episode number matching the USS Enterprise. The segment highlights the ongoing contribution of artists to the show's visual identity.

Keywords: [kara swisher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kara-swisher.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), dork maga, [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), tan stoffel

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Ham Radio Licensing, ARRL, Emergency Communication (1:31:10–1:33:51)

Listeners are encouraged to obtain amateur radio licenses through the ARRL to ensure they can operate communication equipment properly during emergencies. The hosts emphasize that simply owning a radio like a Baofeng is insufficient without understanding repeater offsets and technical fundamentals. They note that the licensing process is accessible, with all test questions and answers published publicly for study.

Keywords: [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), [arrl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arrl.md), [fcc license](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc-license.md), [baofeng](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baofeng.md), [emergency prep](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emergency-prep.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/25.md)

### 26. AI Art, Executive Producers, Captain Luke (1:33:52–1:37:43)

Adam Curry expresses a desire to flood social networks with "AI slop" to make the platforms unusable. The show then transitions to thanking high-tier donors, including Captain Luke, who contributed $1,000 to become the Baron of Sonoma County and a Commodore. The segment details the "treasure" aspect of the value-for-value model, which funds the show's operations.

Keywords: [ai art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-art.md), captain luke, baron of sonoma, [commodore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/commodore.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/26.md)

### 27. No Agenda Donors, Commodore Titles, Job Karma (1:37:46–1:44:04)

A series of donations are acknowledged, with several producers receiving "Commodore" titles for their $500 contributions. Notable donors include Steve Banstra, Eli the Coffee Guy, and Zev Green, who was knighted as "Sir Zev Mo." The segment also includes "Job Karma" requests for listeners seeking employment and promotes various producer-owned businesses like Gigawatt Coffee Roasters.

Keywords: steve banstra, [eli the coffee guy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eli-the-coffee-guy.md), zev green, [commodore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/commodore.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/27.md)

### 28. NPR Reporting, Honda Recall, DEI Hires (1:44:05–1:47:58)

NPR's reporting on a Honda steering mechanism recall is criticized for being condescending and simplistic. The hosts suggest that the quality of NPR's presentation has declined due to "DEI hires" and a focus on ESG scores rather than journalistic excellence. They argue that the network's reporters often sound like "11th graders" rather than professional news broadcasters.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), honda recall, [dei](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dei.md), [esg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/esg.md), camila dominovsky

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Sandia National Laboratories, Asteroid Deflection, X-Rays (1:47:59–1:52:17)

A report from Sandia National Laboratories suggests that a nuclear explosion near an asteroid could use X-rays to deflect the object off course. NPR's coverage of the study is mocked for its use of sound effects and a reference to Bruce Willis. The hosts question the scientific explanation of how X-rays, which lack mass, could provide the physical force necessary to move an asteroid.

Keywords: sandia labs, [asteroid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/asteroid.md), [x-rays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/x-rays.md), [bruce willis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bruce-willis.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/29.md)

### 30. EPA, Lead Pipe Replacement, Flint Water Crisis (1:52:17–1:56:13)

The EPA, led by Administrator Michael Regan, has issued a new rule requiring most U.S. water systems to replace lead pipes within 10 years. NPR's coverage of the mandate is criticized for failing to explain the specific water chemistry issues that caused the Flint crisis. The discussion notes that hard water often creates a protective mineral coating inside pipes, a fact omitted from the news report.

Keywords: [epa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epa.md), [michael regan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-regan.md), lead pipes, [flint](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flint.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Chicago Lead Pipes, Water Justice, Hard Water (1:56:15–2:00:04)

Chicago reportedly has the highest concentration of lead pipes in the U.S., with approximately 400,000 service lines. While the EPA initially granted the city a 40-year extension for replacement, the final rule has tightened the timeline to 20-25 years. The hosts discuss technical solutions like plastic sleeving and reiterate that elemental lead is not toxic unless it forms salts through specific chemical reactions.

Keywords: [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), lead pipes, water justice, hard water, [epa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epa.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Water Justice Advocates, Home Filtration, NPR Science (2:00:04–2:02:18)

NPR interviewed a "water justice advocate" regarding the lead pipe crisis in Chicago, advising residents to use magnets or scratch tests to identify lead lines. The report suggests that common home filters can remove lead until permanent infrastructure changes are made. The hosts criticize the segment for lacking educational depth and failing to provide rigorous scientific context.

Keywords: water justice, lead filters, [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), science reporting, [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Israel-Iran Conflict, Joe Biden, Netanyahu (2:02:20–2:05:22)

President Joe Biden and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu held a "direct and productive" phone call to discuss Israel's planned retaliation against Iran. The U.S. is reportedly urging Israel to avoid targeting Iran's nuclear or oil infrastructure. Speculation remains high that Israel will launch a "precise and deadly" strike following the High Holy Days, possibly coinciding with the anniversary of the Yom Kippur War.

Keywords: [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [benjamin netanyahu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benjamin-netanyahu.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [yom kippur](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yom-kippur.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/33.md)

### 34. General Wesley Clark, Iran Regime Change, World War III (2:05:22–2:08:36)

Retired General Wesley Clark argues that Israel must "strike hard" at Iran, calling the country the source of regional instability. Clark advocates for regime change, stating that Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons makes the current government intolerable. He dismisses concerns that striking Iranian oil fields would spark World War III, suggesting instead that it is a necessary move for regional dominance.

Keywords: [wesley clark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wesley-clark.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [regime change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/regime-change.md), [nuclear weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-weapons.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/34.md)

### 35. General Mark Milley, Rules-Based Order, China 2027 (2:08:37–2:12:51)

In a private investor dinner, General Mark Milley discussed the cyclical nature of history and the current threats to the post-WWII "rules-based order." Milley noted that China, Russia, and Iran have incentives to overthrow this order, with China aiming to be ready for a Taiwan invasion by 2027. He also commented on the Israel-Gaza conflict, stating that Israel has destroyed about two-thirds of Hamas but lacks a clear political message for the future.

Keywords: [mark milley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-milley.md), [bretton woods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bretton-woods.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [taiwan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taiwan.md), [rules-based order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rules-based-order.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Future Warfare, AI Robots, Quantum Computing (2:12:52–2:15:13)

General Mark Milley predicts that one-third of the U.S. military will be robotic within 15 years, featuring drone tanks and sailorless ships. He compared the current technological shift to the development of Panzer divisions in World War II. Milley also cited "AI and quantum computing" as terrifying future capabilities, though critics argue these terms are often used as buzzwords by military leadership.

Keywords: [mark milley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-milley.md), [ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), [robots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robots.md), [quantum computing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quantum-computing.md), panzer divisions

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Mark Rutte, NATO, Ukraine Military Aid (2:15:14–2:19:37)

New NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte emphasized that a Russian victory in Ukraine would pose a security threat to the entire alliance. Rutte is coordinating a 40-billion-euro aid plan and setting up a new command center in Germany to streamline support. He asserted that Ukraine has a "legal right" to strike targets inside Russia if they pose a threat, though individual allies must decide on the use of long-range weapons.

Keywords: [mark rutte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-rutte.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [military aid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-aid.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Ukraine NATO Membership, Russian Veto, Mark Rutte (2:19:38–2:22:14)

Mark Rutte declared that Ukraine is on an "irreversible path" to NATO membership, despite opposition from leaders like the Slovak Prime Minister. Rutte stated during a visit to Kyiv that Russia does not have a vote or a veto in the alliance's expansion. He framed the membership process as a sovereign decision for Ukraine and NATO members, to be discussed further at the upcoming summit in The Hague.

Keywords: [mark rutte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-rutte.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [volodymyr zelenskyy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volodymyr-zelenskyy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Google Antitrust, Epic Games, FTC Commissioner Lina Khan (2:22:15–2:26:21)

A federal judge in the Epic Games case has ordered an injunction that requires Google to open its Android app store to competitors. This ruling comes as the Department of Justice considers a potential breakup of Google's business units. Meanwhile, House Oversight Chairman James Comer sent a scathing letter to FTC Commissioner Lina Khan, accusing her of providing "political cover" for the Biden-Harris administration.

Keywords: [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), epic games, [lina khan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lina-khan.md), [ftc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ftc.md), [antitrust](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antitrust.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/39.md)

### 40. New York Times, Joe Kahn, Project 2025 (2:26:22–2:31:35)

New York Times Executive Editor Joe Kahn defended the paper against criticism from the political left, asserting that the publication maintains a "neutral middle ground." Kahn addressed claims that the paper is "soft-peddling" Donald Trump, citing their deep coverage of Project 2025. He also discussed the paper's analysis of housing plans, noting that Trump's proposal to deport immigrants to free up housing lacks supporting evidence.

Keywords: joe kahn, [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [project 2025](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/project-2025.md), [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), housing plan

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Jeff Jarvis, Media Objectivity, Fake News (2:31:36–2:34:29)

Journalism professor Jeff Jarvis is criticized for his social media posts on Mastodon, where he frequently attacks the New York Times for not being sufficiently partisan against Donald Trump. The hosts argue that Jarvis's "pugnacity" exemplifies the breakdown of objectivity in modern journalism. They suggest that the mainstream media's loss of influence to podcasts and social media has led to a state of "envy and anger" among professional journalists.

Keywords: [jeff jarvis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-jarvis.md), [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [fake news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fake-news.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Elon Musk, Brazil X Ban, Starlink Assets (2:34:30–2:36:56)

Elon Musk's social media platform X has been reinstated in Brazil after the company agreed to comply with court orders. Musk capitulated by appointing a legal representative and paying nearly 5 million euros in fines after the Brazilian Supreme Court froze Starlink's financial assets. The reversal is seen as a victory for Judge Alexandre de Moraes and a pragmatic business move by Musk to protect his Latin American revenue.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md), x, [starlink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/starlink.md), [alexandre de moraes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alexandre-de-moraes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Boeing Strike, Machinist Union, Financial Crisis (2:36:56–2:39:23)

Negotiations between Boeing and the union representing 33,000 striking machinists have collapsed after the company withdrew its "best and final" offer of a 30% pay raise. The union is holding out for 40% and the reinstatement of defined benefit pensions. Boeing is reportedly losing $1 billion per month during the shutdown and is carrying over $60 billion in debt, threatening the stability of the U.S. aerospace and defense industry.

Keywords: [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), machinist strike, [reuters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reuters.md), s&p global, [aerospace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aerospace.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/43.md)

### 44. No Agenda Producers, Donation Credits, Miami Beach (2:39:36–2:43:33)

The hosts acknowledge a final list of "treasure" contributors who support the show's independent production. Donors from cities including Miami Beach, Spokane, and Memphis are thanked for their sustaining contributions. The segment reiterates that the show has no paywalls or premium content, operating entirely on the voluntary support of its audience.

Keywords: [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [miami beach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami-beach.md), [spokane](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spokane.md), [memphis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/memphis.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/44.md)

### 45. No Agenda Health Karma, Congestive Heart Failure (2:43:33–2:44:49)

A listener update regarding "No Agenda Health Karma" reports that a producer's father is recovering from a heart scare. Initially suspected of having a valve infection, an echocardiogram revealed it was merely scar tissue. The segment highlights that swelling in the legs and abdomen can be a sign of congestive heart failure and celebrates the father's return home from the hospital.

Keywords: [health karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-karma.md), congestive heart failure, echocardiogram, [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Knighting Ceremony, Sir Zev Mo, Commodore Titles (2:44:51–2:48:15)

Zev Green is officially knighted as "Sir Zev Mo, Protector of the Digital Wallet" following a $1,000 donation. Several other supporters are granted "Commodore" titles, receiving certificates and signet rings as tokens of their high-level support. The ceremony includes the traditional reading of the "roundtable menu," a symbolic list of luxury items provided to the show's executive producers.

Keywords: zev green, [knight](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knight.md), [commodore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/commodore.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), [signet ring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/signet-ring.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/46.md)

### 47. No Agenda Meetups, Connection is Protection, Raleigh (2:48:15–2:51:08)

The hosts promote upcoming No Agenda meetups in cities such as Raleigh, Fredericksburg, and London, emphasizing the slogan "Connection is Protection." They share a report from a mini-meetup in the Netherlands where listeners visited a fellow "knight" in the hospital. Listeners are encouraged to start their own local gatherings to build community outside of digital platforms.

Keywords: [no agenda meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-meetups.md), [raleigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raleigh.md), [fredericksburg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fredericksburg.md), [cincinnati](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cincinnati.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Emeryville Meetup, Trader Vic's, End of Show Mixes (2:51:11–2:53:34)

John C. Dvorak announces he will attend a family-friendly No Agenda meetup at Trader Vic's in Emeryville, California, on November 2nd. The hosts then transition to selecting the "End of Show Mixes," featuring creative audio submissions from listeners. They settle on a mix titled "The Best Podcast Ever" to close out the episode.

Keywords: [emeryville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emeryville.md), trader vic's, [john dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-dvorak.md), [podcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast.md), [end of show mix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/end-of-show-mix.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Tip of the Day, Check Flash, AliExpress Warning (2:53:36–2:59:57)

John C. Dvorak issues a "retracted tip" regarding AliExpress, warning listeners that the site sells fraudulent high-capacity USB drives. He recommends a software tool called "Check Flash," written by a Ukrainian developer, to verify the actual storage capacity of new flash drives. The segment advises users to test all new storage media for "phony baloney" headers and potential malware before use.

Keywords: check flash, [aliexpress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aliexpress.md), usb drive, [malware](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malware.md), major geeks

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Outro, Media Deconstruction, End of Show Mix (2:59:58–3:04:39)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off from the Texas Hill Country and Northern Silicon Valley, respectively. They remind listeners to return for the next episode of media deconstruction on Sunday. The show concludes with a musical montage featuring clips of Kamala Harris, Donald Trump, and a satirical song about the "Great Reset" theme of eating insects.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-dvorak.md), [media deconstruction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-deconstruction.md), [fredericksburg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fredericksburg.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1702-sloppin-hopper/chapter/50.md)

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