# Flat Chested Women

> A regulatory war on anatomy in Australia meets a high-speed rail power grab in America as banking giants JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs enter a death match.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 170
- **Published:** 2010-01-31
- **Length:** 2h 2m
- **Topics:** Australia Censorship, [High-Speed Rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), Volcker Plan, Haiti Oil, [Dan Quayle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-quayle.md), [Flash Trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flash-trading.md), Mike Connell
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women

## About this episode

The Australian government faces a massive backlash as the Classification Board moves to ban depictions of women with A-cup breasts under the guise of child protection. This regulatory expansion by the Australian Sex Party's rivals coincides with new prohibitions on natural bodily functions in media, sparking calls for a nationwide revolt against the insulting physical standards. Meanwhile, the Obama administration deploys Vice President Joe Biden to Tampa to announce $8 billion in Recovery Act funding for a national high-speed rail initiative.

Economic tensions escalate as the Volcker Plan triggers an inter-bank war between JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs. Paul Volcker is positioned to dismantle the flash-trading advantages of the Goldmans, while market manipulation warnings suggest the entire system remains a rigged Ponzi scheme. In the energy sector, geophysicists at the University of Texas reveal that Haiti may sit on oil reserves larger than Venezuela, casting the current military presence in a predatory light. Domestically, Cerberus Capital Management Chairman Dan Quayle is under fire for a bloodsucking business model that extracts plasma from low-income donors for massive corporate profits.

Suspicion surrounds the death of IT guru Mike Connell as Maxim Magazine prepares an investigation into his suspicious plane crash and missing Blackberry. In Hollywood, the FBI SWAT raid on the estate of Baron Von Helding ends in a questionable suicide involving a mysterious Russian roommate. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak also critique Miley Cyrus for a lackluster Today Show performance and question why Burger King is using adult baby fetishes to market the Whopper.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/transcript.md.

### 1. No Agenda Episode 170 Introduction, Steven Pelsmacher Executive Producer (0:01–1:59)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 170 of the No Agenda show on January 31, 2010, broadcasting from the Crackpot Command Center in San Francisco. They acknowledge executive producer Steven Pelsmacher, who is contributing toward a second knighthood for a colleague known as "the separator." The hosts discuss the upcoming donation segment and the milestone of reaching episode 200.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), steven pelsmacher, [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Steven Pelsmacher, Associate Executive Producer David Bailey (2:00–3:22)

The hosts continue praising Steven Pelsmacher for his significant financial support, comparing his potential role to a SAG Awards president's speech. They also introduce associate executive producer David Bailey, a transplant from Menlo Park, California, now residing in Flower Mound, Texas. Bailey's website and his contribution are highlighted as the hosts transition between donor acknowledgments.

Keywords: steven pelsmacher, david bailey, vanderdam, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [associate executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/associate-executive-producer.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Flower Mound Texas Geography, Associate Executive Producer Ilan Sheamus (3:22–4:45)

A brief discussion occurs regarding the geography of Flower Mound, Texas, described as a large mound in an otherwise flat landscape near Dallas. The hosts then introduce associate executive producer Ilan Sheamus, who donated funds collected through his own website. The segment focuses on the origins of the name Flower Mound and the transition of funds from Sheamus to the show.

Keywords: [flower mound](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flower-mound.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), ilan sheamus, [dallas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dallas.md), menlo park

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Purmerend Netherlands Billboard, Executive Producer Resume Credits (4:46–7:36)

The hosts discuss the pronunciation of Ilan Sheamus's name and his location in Purmerend, Netherlands, noting the town's famous indoor riding stable and large billboards. They suggest that listeners who donate to become executive producers should list the title on their resumes to gain employment. The segment emphasizes the importance of producer contributions to the show's survival.

Keywords: purmerend, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [billboards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/billboards.md), resume credits, [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Norway Oil Wealth, Scandinavian Cultural Rivalries (7:36–9:38)

The hosts discuss Norway's refusal to join the European Union and its resulting oil wealth, comparing the nation to the Saudi Arabia of the Nordic countries. They touch upon regional stereotypes, including the perceived beauty of Norwegian women and the mutual dislike between Swedes, Norwegians, and Danes. The conversation stems from a lost email regarding a t-shirt donation from a Norwegian listener.

Keywords: [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md), [oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil.md), [scandinavia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scandinavia.md), [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [denmark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denmark.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/5.md)

### 6. No Agenda T-Shirt Photo Shoot, Wasabi Finger Incident (9:39–12:13)

A professional photo shoot was conducted at the command center to promote No Agenda t-shirts, featuring Adam's roommate as a model. The hosts discuss the quality of Cafe Press merchandise and the technical setup involving professional lighting and a Nikon camera. A humorous conflict is recounted regarding wasabi stains left on a keyboard after the crew ate sushi paid for by donor David Bailey.

Keywords: cafe press, [t-shirts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/t-shirts.md), [photo shoot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/photo-shoot.md), wasabi, [sushi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sushi.md), nikon

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Cooking Incompetence Indicators, Lasagna and Stuffing Anecdotes (12:13–14:32)

Adam proposes creating an iPhone app for "No Agenda Pancake" recipes, leading to a discussion on how to identify people who cannot cook. The hosts claim that anyone bragging about their lasagna or spaghetti is likely a poor cook using boxed recipes. An anecdote is shared about bringing Stove Top stuffing in Tupperware to a family Thanksgiving and passing it off as a homemade recipe.

Keywords: [cooking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cooking.md), lasagna, spaghetti, stove top stuffing, [thanksgiving](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thanksgiving.md), [iphone app](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone-app.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Australia Internet Censorship, Small Breast Smut Reclassification (14:32–17:04)

The Australian government is proposing a massive internet filter and new reclassifications for prohibited content. The Australian Classification Board reportedly plans to ban depictions of women with A-cup breasts or smaller, citing concerns that they could be mistaken for children. The Australian Sex Party is noted as the primary political group fighting against these anti-sex regulations.

Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [internet filter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-filter.md), australian classification board, australian sex party

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Female Ejaculation Ban, Australian Bodily Function Regulations (17:04–19:50)

Further details on Australian censorship reveal that golden showers and female ejaculation are being reclassified as illegal smut. The hosts criticize the government for outlawing natural bodily functions and excoriating women for their natural physical traits. They call for the "flat-chested women of Australia" to unite and revolt against the insulting new standards.

Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [golden showers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/golden-showers.md), female ejaculation, smut, bodily functions

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Trojan Ecstasy Condom Commercials, Sexual Lubricant Marketing (19:51–23:12)

The hosts critique the aggressive marketing of sexual products on cable networks like FX, specifically focusing on a commercial for Trojan Ecstasy condoms. They question the chemical composition of lubricants that claim to heighten pleasure specifically for men or women. A joke is made regarding "Monsanto boobs" and the potential for corporate involvement in human biology.

Keywords: trojan, ecstasy condoms, ky jelly, [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), fx network

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Miss America Swimsuit Competition, Backstage Commentary (23:15–24:59)

A clip from the Miss America pageant features a backstage announcer encouraging a contestant from Oregon to "rip off her dress" for the swimsuit competition. The hosts describe the event as sounding like a cattle show. They criticize the production quality and the weird atmosphere of the televised pageant.

Keywords: [miss america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-america.md), [swimsuit competition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swimsuit-competition.md), [tbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tbs.md), [pageant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pageant.md), [oregon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oregon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Rush Limbaugh Miss America Judge, Pageant Rating Decline (24:59–28:20)

Rush Limbaugh served as a judge for the Miss America pageant, which the hosts suggest was a move to boost declining ratings. They note that viewership dropped from 26.5 million in 1991 to 3.5 million in 2009. The hosts observe that the contestants appeared to be "cookie-cutter" stereotypes, looking nearly identical in their physical appearance and styling.

Keywords: [rush limbaugh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rush-limbaugh.md), [miss america](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miss-america.md), [ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ratings.md), [cable television](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cable-television.md), [stereotypes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stereotypes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Bill Moyers AFL-CIO Interview, Jobs Jobs Jobs Montage (28:22–30:48)

PBS host Bill Moyers interviewed the head of the AFL-CIO regarding the Massachusetts Senate race and the economic focus on employment. The segment features a montage from The Colbert Report mocking the repetitive use of the phrase "jobs, jobs, jobs" by politicians. The hosts claim they were the first to highlight this rhetorical trend following a Nancy Pelosi speech.

Keywords: [bill moyers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-moyers.md), [afl-cio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afl-cio.md), [stephen colbert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-colbert.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), massachusetts election

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Joe Biden High-Speed Rail Announcement, Tampa Recovery Act (30:49–34:10)

Vice President Joe Biden appeared in Tampa, Florida, to announce $8 billion in Recovery Act funding for high-speed rail development. The plan involves 13 travel corridors across 31 states. The hosts speculate that the funding will accelerate construction projects near the "minimum security containment cell" in San Francisco, which is slated to be a rail stop.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [high-speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), [recovery act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recovery-act.md), [tampa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tampa.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [stimulus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stimulus.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/14.md)

### 15. National Rail Program Goals, Tampa to Orlando Corridor (34:11–37:10)

The Obama administration's rail initiative aims to reduce highway congestion and carbon emissions while increasing productivity. The Tampa to Orlando route is highlighted as an initial project, with Biden describing the $8 billion as "seed money" for a larger $55 billion national program. The hosts remain skeptical of the project's long-term viability and its impact on the automobile industry.

Keywords: [high-speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), [carbon emissions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-emissions.md), [tampa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tampa.md), [orlando](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/orlando.md), seed money, [transportation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transportation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Global Rail Comparisons, General Electric Locomotive Bids (37:10–40:31)

General Electric is bidding to supply locomotives for Amtrak and has announced a joint venture in China for high-speed rail technology. The hosts compare the U.S. rail plan to systems in France and Japan, noting that countries like Brazil and Russia lack extensive high-speed networks. They argue that the U.S. geography is better suited for air travel than rail.

Keywords: [general electric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-electric.md), [amtrak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amtrak.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md), [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [japan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/japan.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Airport Security Deterrence, General Electric Media Influence (40:31–42:52)

The hosts suggest that increasingly invasive airport security measures, such as naked scanners, are designed to make air travel unattractive and push travelers toward the new rail system. They point out that NBC, owned by General Electric, promotes these security fears while GE stands to profit from rail contracts. A link is provided to a report on the "Washington gravy train" of rail lobbying.

Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), naked scanners, [general electric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-electric.md), [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [air travel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-travel.md), [lobbying](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lobbying.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/17.md)

### 18. TGV Safety Records, Gouda Station Train Collision (42:52–45:50)

The safety record of the French TGV and Thales rail systems is discussed, noting that 1.2 billion passengers have traveled without a casualty. However, the hosts mention specific accidents, including a 2008 collision at Gouda Station in the Netherlands and a 1998 fatal truck strike. They anticipate that safety statistics will be a major selling point for the U.S. high-speed rail push.

Keywords: [tgv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tgv.md), thales, [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), gouda station, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), train safety

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/18.md)

### 19. European Rail Convenience, California High-Speed Rail Challenges (45:51–48:34)

While rail travel is optimized for European metro centers like Hamburg and Hanover, the hosts argue it is impractical for the California corridor between San Francisco and Los Angeles. They cite the Grapevine mountain range as a major engineering hurdle. The discussion contrasts the 15-minute frequency of German trains with the projected limitations of the American system.

Keywords: [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [ice train](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ice-train.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [los angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-angeles.md), [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/19.md)

### 20. London Congestion Tax, UK Train Affordability Crisis (48:35–51:21)

In the United Kingdom, high congestion taxes discourage driving into London, but the alternative rail system has become unaffordable for many workers. The hosts discuss the removal of toilets on short-haul trains for security reasons and the high cost of monthly passes, which can exceed $650. They conclude that the system is designed to control the wallets of the population.

Keywords: [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), congestion tax, [guilford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/guilford.md), peak pricing, [public transportation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-transportation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Dan Quayle, Cerberus Capital Management Plasma Investments (51:21–53:54)

Former Vice President Dan Quayle is the Chairman of Global Investments for Cerberus Capital Management. The firm reportedly bought a plasma donation company called Talacris for $82 million and sold it for nearly $2 billion. The hosts describe the business model as "bloodsucking," involving the extraction of plasma from low-income individuals for profit.

Keywords: [dan quayle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-quayle.md), cerberus capital management, talacris, plasma donation, bloodsuckers

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/21.md)

### 22. California Marijuana Legalization Initiative, Prison Labor Concerns (53:54–56:23)

An initiative to legalize marijuana for recreational use is set for the November ballot in California after organizers collected 700,000 signatures. The hosts discuss the potential impact on the prison industrial complex, which relies on drug-related arrests for labor. They advocate for legalization while questioning how the state will replace the revenue and control mechanisms associated with prohibition.

Keywords: [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), [legalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legalization.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [ballot initiative](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ballot-initiative.md), [prison labor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prison-labor.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/22.md)

### 23. iGrow Warehouse, Walmart of Weed in Oakland (56:23–58:42)

A 15,000-square-foot warehouse called iGrow has opened in Oakland, marketed as the "Walmart of Weed." The store sells hydroponic supplies and offers courses on cultivation but does not sell marijuana directly. The hosts speculate that large corporations like Monsanto may eventually enter the market to provide seeds and nutrients to home growers.

Keywords: igrow, [oakland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oakland.md), [hydroponics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydroponics.md), marijuana cultivation, walmart of weed

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Marijuana Business Models, Oakland Dispensary Ordinances (58:43–1:01:09)

Owner Dar Mann describes iGrow as a "Home Depot for marijuana," offering DIY courses on nutrients and lighting. Oakland City Council Member Rebecca Kaplan is reportedly drafting ordinances to expand the number of legal dispensaries in the city, which is currently capped at four. The hosts joke that the future of the American economy involves everyone growing and selling weed to each other.

Keywords: dar mann, rebecca kaplan, [oakland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oakland.md), [dispensaries](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dispensaries.md), thb, [hydroponics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydroponics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Medical Marijuana Cards, California as the New Amsterdam (1:01:09–1:03:39)

The hosts describe California as the "Amsterdam of the United States" due to the ease of obtaining medical marijuana cards through "doc in the box" clinics. They note that President Obama has promised to stop federal raids on dispensaries, encouraging "potheads" to move to California to help revive the real estate market.

Keywords: [medical marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-marijuana.md), doc in the box, [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [federal law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-law.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Personal Drug History, Future Legalization Trends (1:03:39–1:05:21)

Adam Curry admits to being "stoned for 12 years" during the early days of his career but has since stopped. The hosts discuss the failure of a San Francisco initiative to legalize prostitution and speculate that heroin could be the next target for legalization. They reiterate their advice for listeners to buy property in California to capitalize on the "stoner" influx.

Keywords: [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), [heroin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heroin.md), [prostitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prostitution.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/26.md)

### 27. No Agenda Donation Segment, Pennsylvania Donor Coincidence (1:05:22–1:07:51)

The hosts read the week's donations, including a $55.55 contribution from an anonymous donor recommending the book *Stones into Schools* by Greg Mortenson. They note a coincidence where two separate donors from Pennsylvania both gave exactly $62.00. Other contributors from Oregon, Australia, and Germany are acknowledged as the hosts lament the overall scarcity of funds for 2010.

Keywords: [anonymous](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anonymous.md), greg mortenson, mark honeyman, [pennsylvania](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pennsylvania.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Subscription Model Sustainability, Five Dollar Monthly Plan (1:07:52–1:09:09)

The hosts discuss the necessity of the $5 monthly subscription plan to sustain the show. They estimate they currently have about 900 subscribers but need 5,000 to create a reliable baseline for operations. They encourage listeners to sign up for the recurring plan to ensure the show's long-term survival in a difficult economy.

Keywords: [subscriptions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subscriptions.md), [sustainability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sustainability.md), five dollar plan, [revenue](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/revenue.md), [listeners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listeners.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Missed Meeting with Optics Researcher, Bill Gates Interview Waste (1:09:09–1:11:25)

Adam expresses regret over missing an email from a researcher in Perth who offered a donation and insights into terahertz imaging and Royal Raymond Rife. The hosts complain about the lack of an intern to manage their correspondence. They also describe wasting an hour watching a "terrible" Maria Bartiromo interview with Bill Gates that yielded no usable content for the show.

Keywords: [perth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/perth.md), photonics west, royal raymond rife, [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [maria bartiromo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maria-bartiromo.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/29.md)

### 30. The Power of Three, Third Show Pledge Drive Proposal (1:11:26–1:14:38)

A listener named Breedlove proposed a "Drive for Three" to fund a third weekly episode of No Agenda. The plan involves seeking 3,333 donations of $33.33 each by March 3rd. While Adam is intrigued by the symbolic "power of three," John Dvorak expresses skepticism and finds the plan overly complicated.

Keywords: power of three, [pledge drive](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pledge-drive.md), march 3, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [hookers and blow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hookers-and-blow.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Global Age of Consent, Vatican State Pedophilia Claims (1:14:39–1:17:53)

The hosts discuss a list of worldwide ages of consent, noting that the Vatican State reportedly sets the age at 12. They use this to support their theory that government officials who obsess over child pornography are often pedophiles themselves. They also compare age of consent laws across various U.S. states and European countries.

Keywords: [age of consent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/age-of-consent.md), [vatican city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vatican-city.md), [new mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-mexico.md), [pedophilia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pedophilia.md), [child pornography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-pornography.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Global Sugar Crisis, Monsanto Substitute Speculation (1:17:54–1:19:30)

A crisis in the global sugar market is attributed to poor monsoon seasons in India and excessive rain in Brazil. The hosts speculate that this is an artificially created shortage designed to pave the way for a new Monsanto sugar substitute. They warn that natural sugar is becoming unaffordable, forcing consumers toward high fructose corn syrup.

Keywords: [sugar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sugar.md), monsoon, [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md), [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [commodities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/commodities.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/32.md)

### 33. High Fructose Corn Syrup, Liquid Smoke Label Analysis (1:19:30–1:21:42)

John Dvorak urges listeners to read food labels carefully and reject products containing high fructose corn syrup. He analyzes the ingredients of various "liquid smoke" brands, noting that some are primarily soy sauce and corn syrup rather than actual smoke. He recommends the Colgin brand for its purity compared to competitors like Stubbs or Wright's.

Keywords: [high fructose corn syrup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-fructose-corn-syrup.md), liquid smoke, [colgin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colgin.md), [soy sauce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/soy-sauce.md), [labeling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labeling.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Big Organic, Pepsi Throwback Real Sugar (1:21:42–1:24:05)

The hosts criticize "Big Organic" retailers like Whole Foods, citing author Michael Pollan's work on how these companies prioritize profit over health. They mention that Pepsi has released a "Throwback" version using real sugar, which they expect to sell well despite the rising cost of sugar. They reiterate the importance of avoiding genetically modified soy and corn products.

Keywords: [whole foods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whole-foods.md), [michael pollan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-pollan.md), big organic, pepsi throwback, [canola oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canola-oil.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Volcker Plan, JPMorgan Chase vs Goldman Sachs War (1:24:04–1:26:56)

The hosts analyze the "Volcker Plan" for banking reform, suggesting it represents an all-out war between JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs. They claim Paul Volcker is a JPMorgan ally positioned to dismantle the advantages gained by Goldman Sachs during the 2008 bailout. The segment explores the potential return of Glass-Steagall regulations to curb investment bank power.

Keywords: [paul volcker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-volcker.md), timmy geithner, [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [jpmorgan chase](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jpmorgan-chase.md), [glass-steagall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glass-steagall.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Flash Trading Corruption, Market Manipulation Warnings (1:26:56–1:30:34)

The hosts allege that Goldman Sachs uses corrupt "flash trading" computer models to manipulate market directions. They argue that the current market decline is a result of the inter-bank war between the "Goldmans" and the "Chases." Listeners are advised to exit the stock market immediately, as the hosts believe the entire system is a fake, manipulated Ponzi scheme.

Keywords: [flash trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flash-trading.md), [high-frequency trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-frequency-trading.md), [lloyd blankfein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lloyd-blankfein.md), rockefellers, [market crash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/market-crash.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Mike Connell Murder Allegations, Maxim Magazine Investigation (1:30:35–1:34:03)

Maxim Magazine is reportedly publishing an in-depth report on the death of Mike Connell, the IT guru for Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. Connell's widow, Heather, alleges he was murdered to prevent him from whistleblowing on the rigged 2004 election. The hosts discuss suspicious details of the plane crash investigation, including the missing Blackberry and the hasty removal of debris.

Keywords: mike connell, [karl rove](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karl-rove.md), [ntsb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ntsb.md), [2004 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2004-election.md), maxim magazine

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Dead Man Switch, Information Security Strategy (1:34:04–1:35:36)

Following the Mike Connell story, Adam Curry explains the concept of a "dead man switch" for information security. This involves a server that automatically distributes a zip file of incriminating documents to predetermined addresses if the owner fails to check in via email or Twitter. The hosts discuss the necessity of such measures for those holding sensitive political data.

Keywords: [dead man switch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dead-man-switch.md), [server](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/server.md), [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md), [whistleblowing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whistleblowing.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Baron Von Helding Suicide, FBI SWAT Raid (1:35:36–1:38:09)

Ronald Eade, known as Baron Von Helding, reportedly committed suicide during an FBI SWAT raid on his Hollywood estate. The raid was allegedly triggered by accusations that Eade offered a minor money to pose for nude photos. The hosts find the use of tear gas and the destruction of the estate's gates suspicious, suggesting Eade may have been "railroaded" or silenced.

Keywords: ronald eade, baron von helding, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [swat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swat.md), [hollywood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollywood.md), [child pornography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-pornography.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Von Helding Standoff Details, Russian Roommate Connection (1:38:09–1:40:40)

Details of the five-hour standoff at the Von Helding estate reveal that agents heard a gunshot before entering to find Eade dead. The hosts note that Eade had no prior convictions and was active in AIDS charities. They highlight the presence of a Russian roommate, Damian Dmitrikovsky, and speculate about potential "spy stuff" or deeper Hollywood scandals.

Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [swat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swat.md), damian dmitrikovsky, [hollywood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollywood.md), standoff

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Vancouver Ammonium Nitrate, Missing Explosives Reports (1:40:41–1:42:14)

Reports indicate that 2,000 pounds of ammonium nitrate went missing in Vancouver ahead of the 2010 Winter Olympics. While officials initially claimed it was a clerical error, the hosts note that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (Mounties) were unable to confirm the accounting discrepancy. They suggest this could be a precursor to a "false flag" event.

Keywords: [vancouver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vancouver.md), [ammonium nitrate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ammonium-nitrate.md), [explosives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/explosives.md), mounties, [clerical error](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clerical-error.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Vancouver Olympic Security, Verint Systems Connection (1:42:14–1:43:51)

The hosts discuss the security infrastructure for the Vancouver Olympics, noting that Verint Systems—the company involved in the London 7-7 bombings—is providing the cameras. They also mention that the Canadian government has been shut down, potentially allowing U.S. troops to take control in the event of a terror attack under existing bilateral agreements.

Keywords: [vancouver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vancouver.md), [olympics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/olympics.md), verint systems, 7-7 bombings, [security drills](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-drills.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Movie 2012 Predictive Programming, Olympic Lack of Snow (1:43:51–1:46:34)

A clip from the movie *2012* is analyzed for potential "predictive programming" regarding a disaster in British Columbia. The hosts also comment on the bizarre lack of snow in Vancouver during record-breaking cold elsewhere, suggesting either a "cosmic joke" or the intentional use of weather modification machines.

Keywords: 2012 movie, [british columbia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/british-columbia.md), [olympics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/olympics.md), [weather modification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-modification.md), [snow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/snow.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Chase Bank Honesty Commercial, Psychological Projection (1:46:37–1:48:25)

The hosts critique a Chase Bank commercial where a man secretly runs to an ATM because a restaurant is "cash only," rather than simply telling his date. They interpret this as a projection of the bank's own "dishonest mentality." They argue that the behavior depicted in the ad is socially abnormal and reflects a lack of corporate integrity.

Keywords: [chase bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chase-bank.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [atm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atm.md), [psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychology.md), [projection](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/projection.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Burger King Adult Baby Commercials, Sexual Fetish Marketing (1:48:25–1:50:16)

A new Burger King advertising campaign features grown men dressed as babies in diapers, which the hosts describe as a "sexual sick fetish." They question how such "creepy" imagery was approved by management to sell Whoppers. The discussion links this to a broader trend of unsettling Burger King commercials, including the previous "King" character.

Keywords: [burger king](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/burger-king.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), adult baby, [fetish](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fetish.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Haiti Oil Reserves, University of Texas Geological Mapping (1:50:16–1:52:42)

Geophysicists believe Haiti may sit on one of the world's richest zones for oil and gas, potentially larger than Venezuela's reserves. The hosts point out that the University of Texas began mapping these hydrocarbons in 2005, shortly after President Aristide was deposed. They argue the current military presence in Haiti is more about securing these resources than humanitarian aid.

Keywords: [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil.md), [hydrocarbons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydrocarbons.md), [university of texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-texas.md), [chevron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chevron.md), [exxonmobil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exxonmobil.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Formaldehyde Trailers for Haiti, FEMA Katrina Surplus (1:52:43–1:54:10)

U.S. lawmakers are pressing to send thousands of surplus FEMA trailers from Hurricane Katrina to Haiti, despite known formaldehyde contamination. Representative Benny Thompson suggested they could be used for "short-term" housing. The hosts condemn the plan as a "scam" to dispose of toxic waste under the guise of international aid through USAID.

Keywords: [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), [fema](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema.md), katrina trailers, [formaldehyde](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/formaldehyde.md), benny thompson, [usaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usaid.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Anwar al-Awlaki CIA Hit List, American Citizen Targeted (1:54:11–1:56:48)

The CIA has reportedly placed Anwar al-Awlaki, a Muslim cleric born in New Mexico, on a target list for drone strikes. This marks the first time a U.S. citizen has been officially targeted for assassination by the agency. The hosts mock the idea that "lawyers vet the killing" to ensure it is legally acceptable to execute a citizen without trial.

Keywords: [anwar al-awlaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anwar-al-awlaki.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [hit list](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hit-list.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [yemen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yemen.md), [american citizen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-citizen.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/48.md)

### 49. No Agenda Mobile Apps, Adam Burke Developer (1:56:48–1:58:24)

The No Agenda show now has dedicated apps for iPhone, Android, and BlackBerry. Adam Curry notes that the "Pocket No Agenda" app was featured on the iTunes "What's Hot" list. However, he expresses concern that the developer, Adam Burke, has not yet shared a portion of the proceeds as previously discussed.

Keywords: [blackberry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackberry.md), [iphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone.md), [android](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/android.md), [itunes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/itunes.md), adam burke, [zune](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zune.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Miley Cyrus Today Show Performance, Vocal Quality Critique (1:58:25–2:00:49)

A clip of Miley Cyrus singing live on the *Today Show* outside the GE building is played to demonstrate poor vocal quality. The hosts describe the performance as "fake" and compare it unfavorably to the "Pants on the Ground" viral video. They suggest that modern pop stars lack actual talent and rely on studio production.

Keywords: [miley cyrus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miley-cyrus.md), [today show](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/today-show.md), ge building, live singing, [american idol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-idol.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Episode 170 Outro, Sign-off and Next Show Tease (2:00:49–2:02:37)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude episode 170, mentioning they didn't have time to cover "Climate Gate." They reiterate the need for listener donations and provide the show's URLs. The hosts sign off from the Crackpot Command Center and announce the next "early service" broadcast for the following Thursday.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [climate gate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-gate.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/170-flat-chested-women/chapter/51.md)

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