# Sand Battery > A landmark plea deal brings Julian Assange home as the Supreme Court sidesteps a major censorship ruling and AI power demands begin to crush local utility grids. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 1672 - **Published:** 2024-06-27 - **Length:** 3h 8m - **People:** [Adam Curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/adam-curry.md) (host), [John C Dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/person/john-c-dvorak.md) (host) - **Topics:** Assange Freedom, [Debate Rules](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debate-rules.md), [Chevron Deference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chevron-deference.md), Sand Batteries, [Cheap Fakes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cheap-fakes.md), AI Music Lawsuit - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery ## About this episode Julian Assange walked free from a Saipan courtroom this week after reaching a plea deal with the U.S. Justice Department, ending a 14-year legal standoff. The WikiLeaks founder pleaded guilty to a single felony count of conspiring to obtain and disclose national defense information before returning to Australia. This resolution follows years of incarceration in Belmarsh prison and reignites intense debate over the First Amendment implications of prosecuting individuals for publishing classified military footage and diplomatic cables. In the United States, the Supreme Court issued a 6-3 ruling in Missouri v. Biden, determining that plaintiffs lacked legal standing to challenge White House communications with social media companies regarding alleged censorship. Meanwhile, CNN finalized technical preparations for the first 2024 presidential debate, implementing a microphone muting system to prevent interruptions between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Reports also surfaced of a massive 200% spike in utility bills in Prineville, Oregon, as data centers for Amazon and Apple outpace the local power grid's capacity. Additionally, the RIAA filed lawsuits against AI music startups Suno and Udio, alleging the illegal use of copyrighted recordings for model training. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak navigate the week's technical failures, including a terminal Beelink mini PC crash and a painful periodontal bone graft recovery. The hosts break down the "cheap fakes" media narrative and the curious timing of AI-driven Alzheimer's research. Between Dutch idioms about marbles and memories of the 1983 Atari landfill, the show maintains its commitment to the value-for-value model over corporate sponsorship. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/transcript.md. ### 1. No Agenda Episode 1672 Introduction, Diaries.com Valuation (0:00–2:52) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1672 from Texas and Northern Silicon Valley. Dvorak discusses his habit of keeping a diary and reveals he owns the domain Diaries.com, which he values at one Bitcoin or one million dollars. The hosts joke about a "troll fact-checker" gag regarding mic muting during the broadcast. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [diaries.com](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diaries-com.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [fema region 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema-region-6.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Hardware Failures, Beelink Mini PC Reliability Issues (2:53–5:51) A host reports the total failure of a Beelink mini PC after a previously discussed hard drive issue became terminal on Wednesday. The discussion covers the difficulty of accessing internal drives in these small form factor machines and the transition to using a Surface 8 as a backup. Frustration is expressed regarding the lack of repairability in modern "baked-in" hardware. Keywords: [beelink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beelink.md), hard drive failure, surface 8, [data backup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-backup.md), ghosting [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Periodontal Procedure, Bone Graft Recovery (5:51–7:27) One host describes undergoing a periodontal bone graft procedure on Tuesday, resulting in facial swelling and pain when laughing. The conversation includes dark humor referencing "Hamas bone" and jokes about microphones being grafted into the jaw. The recovery process requires a temporary reduction in humorous one-liners during the broadcast. Keywords: periodontal surgery, bone graft, [hamas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamas.md), dental implant, [recovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recovery.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Julian Assange Release, Plea Deal in Northern Mariana Islands (7:28–11:37) Julian Assange traveled from the UK to the Northern Mariana Islands to finalize a plea deal with the U.S. Justice Department. He pleaded guilty to a single felony count of conspiring to obtain and disclose national defense information and was sentenced to time served in a British prison. The reporting highlights his return to Australia and the end of a 14-year legal standoff. Keywords: [julian assange](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/julian-assange.md), [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [chelsea manning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chelsea-manning.md), northern mariana islands, [plea deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plea-deal.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Collateral Murder Video, Wikileaks Iraq War Revelations (11:40–15:28) The hosts reflect on the 2007 Apache helicopter footage released by WikiLeaks, which depicted the killing of civilians and Reuters journalists in Baghdad. They discuss the matter-of-fact attitude of the pilots and the impact the video had on public perception of the Iraq War. The conversation notes that legal pressure on Assange intensified significantly following the release of DNC and Podesta emails. Keywords: [collateral murder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/collateral-murder.md), [apache helicopter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apache-helicopter.md), [baghdad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baghdad.md), [reuters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reuters.md), [war crimes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war-crimes.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Seth Rich Theory, Russian Hacking Narrative Critique (15:28–19:08) The discussion critiques mainstream media reports claiming Russian intelligence hacked the Hillary Clinton campaign, arguing instead that Podesta was phished or that Seth Rich was the source. Claims are made that Kim Dotcom provided the private jet for Assange's travel and that certain Clinton emails have been removed from WikiLeaks servers as part of a "hidden deal." Keywords: [seth rich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seth-rich.md), [dnc emails](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc-emails.md), [john podesta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-podesta.md), [russia hoax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia-hoax.md), [kim dotcom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kim-dotcom.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Press Freedom Implications, Assange Sentencing Details (19:08–23:26) Judge Ramona Manglona formally sentenced Julian Assange to time served, allowing him to walk free from the Saipan courtroom. The hosts discuss the implications for journalism, noting that pleading guilty to publishing classified material sets a concerning precedent for the First Amendment. They contrast the "harsh" conditions of Belmarsh prison with his new chapter in Australia. Keywords: [espionage act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage-act.md), [press freedom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/press-freedom.md), ramona manglona, [belmarsh prison](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belmarsh-prison.md), stella assange [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Tucker Carlson in Australia, Media Criticism (23:27–25:55) Tucker Carlson's recent appearance in Australia is discussed, specifically a keynote speech where he insulted Australian journalists during a Q&A session. The hosts observe Carlson's "awakening" since leaving Fox News and his aggressive stance against mainstream media figures. Keywords: [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Anti-Biden Viral Videos, Digital Campaign Tactics (25:57–28:28) A surge of highly produced, aggressive anti-Biden viral clips is noted on social media platforms. These videos often use satire or man-on-the-street interviews to criticize the administration's handling of the U.S. border and illegal immigration. The hosts describe these digital tactics as more aggressive than those seen in the 2016 election cycle. Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [viral videos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viral-videos.md), [illegal immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illegal-immigration.md), [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Starbucks Energy Drinks, Biden Debate Prep Rumors (28:28–30:19) Comedian Martin Short's joke about Starbucks' new high-caffeine "Iced Energy" drink and Joe Biden's debate performance is highlighted. The conversation shifts to media rumors regarding Biden using performance-enhancing substances or "shots in the ass" before the CNN presidential debate. Keywords: [starbucks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/starbucks.md), iced energy, [martin short](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/martin-short.md), [cocaine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cocaine.md), [debate prep](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debate-prep.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/10.md) ### 11. CNN Debate Rules, Microphone Muting Technology (30:19–32:56) CNN demonstrated the technical setup for the upcoming presidential debate, featuring green lights to indicate active microphones and a muting system to prevent interruptions. The hosts discuss the strict rules agreed upon by both the Biden and Trump campaigns, including the absence of a live audience. Keywords: [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [jake tapper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jake-tapper.md), [dana bash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dana-bash.md), microphone muting, [presidential debate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/presidential-debate.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Historical Debate Comparisons, Kennedy-Nixon Legacy (32:56–35:16) The hosts compare the current debate format to the 1960 Kennedy-Nixon debate, which also lacked a live audience. They recall famous debate moments, such as Ronald Reagan's "youth and inexperience" quip against Walter Mondale and Lloyd Bentsen's "you're no Jack Kennedy" line to Dan Quayle. Keywords: [john f. kennedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-f-kennedy.md), [richard nixon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-nixon.md), [ronald reagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ronald-reagan.md), [walter mondale](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/walter-mondale.md), [vice presidential debate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vice-presidential-debate.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Chuck Todd Analysis, Risk Aversion in Debates (35:16–37:31) MSNBC's Chuck Todd and Susan Page analyze the high stakes of the first 2024 debate, suggesting both candidates have more to lose than gain. Todd argues that because both campaigns feel they have a visible path to victory, they may act more risk-averse than viewers expect. Keywords: [chuck todd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-todd.md), [andrea mitchell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrea-mitchell.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), political operatives, [debate strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debate-strategy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Biden Mask Theory, Electronic Signal Jamming (37:32–41:03) A "crackpot" theory is presented suggesting an actor in a high-tech mask might replace Joe Biden at the debate. The discussion includes the potential use of pocket signal jammers to interfere with wireless "earwigs" or microphones, and critiques Jake Tapper's past rhetoric comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. Keywords: [masks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/masks.md), [deepfakes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deepfakes.md), signal jammer, [earwig](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/earwig.md), [jake tapper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jake-tapper.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Debate Prop Bets, Media Narrative Control (41:03–43:55) The hosts discuss "prop bets" for the debate, including which candidate will mention their wife first or who will be the first to mispronounce a name. They criticize the media for claiming G7 videos of Biden are "faked" or "cheap fakes" and predict that the debate will not actually change many voters' minds. Keywords: [prop bets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prop-bets.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [g7](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g7.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [democracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/15.md) ### 16. CNN Interview Conflict, Caroline Leavitt vs. Casey Hunt (43:57–47:15) CNN anchor Casey Hunt abruptly ended an interview with Trump campaign press secretary Caroline Leavitt after Leavitt criticized debate moderator Jake Tapper. The hosts mock Hunt's "school marm" demeanor and the network's refusal to allow criticism of its own journalists. Keywords: casey hunt, [caroline leavitt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/caroline-leavitt.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [jake tapper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jake-tapper.md), [press secretary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/press-secretary.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/16.md) ### 17. France 24 Debate Coverage, Reagan Farewell Address (47:15–50:21) International coverage of the U.S. debate from France 24 is reviewed, highlighting the "rusty" nature of both candidates who haven't debated in four years. This is contrasted with Ronald Reagan's 1989 farewell address, where he spoke of the "shining city on a hill" and prayed for the nation's leadership. Keywords: [france 24](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france-24.md), [ronald reagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ronald-reagan.md), shining city on a hill, [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), [1989](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1989.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Mar-a-Lago Documents Case, Jack Smith Filing (50:22–53:01) Special Counsel Jack Smith filed a detailed response to claims that FBI agents tampered with boxes at Mar-a-Lago. The filing describes how Donald Trump allegedly kept highly guarded secrets among personal keepsakes like Christmas ornaments and clothing. Judge Eileen Cannon continues to hold hearings on various motions, delaying the case indefinitely. Keywords: [jack smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jack-smith.md), [mar-a-lago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mar-a-lago.md), [classified documents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/classified-documents.md), eileen cannon, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Missouri v. Biden, Supreme Court Standing Ruling (53:02–56:02) The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that the plaintiffs in Missouri v. Biden lacked legal standing to challenge the White House's communication with social media companies regarding misinformation. Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote the majority opinion, while Justice Alito dissented, calling it a critical free speech case. The ruling effectively punts the merits of the censorship dispute back to lower courts. Keywords: [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [missouri v. biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/missouri-v-biden.md), [amy coney barrett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amy-coney-barrett.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), social media censorship [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Sackler Family Liability, Chevron Deference Anticipation (56:02–57:24) The Supreme Court ruled that the Sackler family cannot use Purdue Pharma's bankruptcy to escape personal liability for the opioid crisis. Additionally, the hosts express anticipation for a ruling on "Chevron deference," which could significantly limit the power of federal administrative agencies. Keywords: [purdue pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/purdue-pharma.md), [sackler family](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sackler-family.md), [oxycontin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oxycontin.md), [chevron deference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chevron-deference.md), [bankruptcy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bankruptcy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Lobbying for Chevron Deference, Agency Capture (57:24–1:01:25) A host recounts a 20-minute "background" phone call with a lobbyist defending Chevron deference. The host argued that the doctrine has facilitated corporate consolidation and agency capture, citing personal experience working for enforcement agencies prior to the 1984 ruling. Keywords: [chevron deference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chevron-deference.md), [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md), [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [administrative state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/administrative-state.md), corporate consolidation [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Cheap Fakes Narrative, Barbra Streisand Effect (1:01:25–1:05:42) The White House and media's use of the term "cheap fakes" to describe unflattering videos of President Biden is analyzed. The hosts discuss the "Streisand Effect," noting that Barbra Streisand's recent tweets about misinformation are likely driving more people to seek out the very videos the administration wants to suppress. Keywords: [cheap fakes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cheap-fakes.md), [barbra streisand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barbra-streisand.md), [karine jean-pierre](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karine-jean-pierre.md), [misinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/misinformation.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Sam Altman at Aspen Ideas Festival, AI Global Framework (1:05:43–1:10:22) OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky discussed the risks and promise of AI at the Aspen Ideas Festival. Altman compared the development of AI to the Manhattan Project and called for a "transnational group" to create a global framework for the technology. The hosts mock the use of Silicon Valley buzzwords like "super important." Keywords: [sam altman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-altman.md), [open ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-ai.md), brian chesky, [airbnb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbnb.md), [aspen ideas festival](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aspen-ideas-festival.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Podshow History, Silicon Valley Business Culture (1:10:23–1:12:41) The hosts reminisce about the early days of Podshow and its transition to Meveo, which was influenced by venture capital pressure from Kleiner Perkins. They discuss the interpersonal nature of Silicon Valley hiring and the "bullcrap dictionary" of tech industry terminology. Keywords: [podshow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podshow.md), [meveo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meveo.md), [kleiner perkins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kleiner-perkins.md), [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md), [joost](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joost.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Data Center Power Demands, Utility Bill Increases (1:12:40–1:15:02) Reports from "boots on the ground" indicate that massive data centers for Amazon, Facebook, and Apple are causing significant spikes in local utility bills, including a 200% increase in Prineville, Oregon. An industry executive notes that the power demand is exponential and currently outstripping the capacity of nuclear power plants. Keywords: [amazon hq2](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon-hq2.md), [data centers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-centers.md), [virginia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/virginia.md), [nuclear power](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-power.md), [utility bills](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/utility-bills.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Matrix Multiplication Breakthrough, Threat to Nvidia (1:15:05–1:18:09) Researchers have reportedly developed a way to run large language models (LLMs) without "matrix multiplication" (MatMul), the core computational task currently handled by Nvidia GPUs. This new method could allow AI to run on significantly less power (13 watts) using FPGA chips, potentially threatening Nvidia's 90% market share in the data center sector. Keywords: [nvidia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nvidia.md), matrix multiplication, matmul, fpga, [large language models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/large-language-models.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/26.md) ### 27. RIAA Lawsuit Against Suno and Udio, AI Music Copyright (1:18:09–1:21:30) The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), representing Sony, Universal, and Warner, has filed lawsuits against AI music startups Suno and Udio. The suit alleges the companies illegally used copyrighted recordings to train their AI systems. The hosts discuss the difficulty of "manufacturing" viral hits through technology versus organic humor. Keywords: [riaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/riaa.md), [suno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suno.md), [udio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/udio.md), [sony music](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sony-music.md), [copyright infringement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright-infringement.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/27.md) ### 28. 1980s Video Game Crash, Atari ET Landfill (1:21:30–1:23:03) The hosts discuss the 1983 video game industry crash, specifically the failure of the "E.T." game for Atari. They recall the event where thousands of unsold cartridges were buried in a New Mexico landfill, drawing a parallel to modern overhyped technologies that lose public confidence. Keywords: [atari](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atari.md), et the extra-terrestrial, video game crash, [landfill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/landfill.md), [new mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-mexico.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/28.md) ### 29. AI Alzheimer's Detection, Speech Pattern Analysis (1:23:03–1:25:21) Boston University researchers developed an AI tool that analyzes speech patterns to predict the development of Alzheimer's with 80% accuracy. The hosts speculate that the timing of this story's release is a "plant" intended to draw associations with President Biden's cognitive health. Keywords: [alzheimer's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alzheimer-s.md), [boston university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boston-university.md), [speech patterns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/speech-patterns.md), [dementia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dementia.md), [medical ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-ai.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Value for Value Model, Independent Media Sustainability (1:25:25–1:28:47) Adam Curry discusses the "Value for Value" model as the only sustainable path for independent media, contrasting it with the collapse of "minimum guarantees" for podcasters on platforms like Spotify. He highlights other creators, such as Uncharted X, who are adopting the model to avoid corporate sponsorship. Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), uncharted x, [crowdfunding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crowdfunding.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/30.md) ### 31. No Agenda Art Gallery, Episode 1671 Review (1:28:47–1:32:03) The hosts review the artwork for episode 1671, "It's the Boyfriend," created by Sir Shug. They discuss the various submissions at NoAgendaArtGenerator.com, including AI-generated pieces and the "Nestle Crunch" parody logo. They also credit Dreb Scott for managing the show's digital chapters. Keywords: [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), sir shug, nestle crunch, [ai art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-art.md), [dreb scott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dreb-scott.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Sir Anonymous Donation, Global Economic Observations (1:32:04–1:35:03) A major donation from "Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch" includes observations on the global economy, noting the difficulty of obtaining new $100 bills abroad and the growth of the BRICS nations. The donor also highlights the humanitarian crisis in Sudan and criticizes the current structure of the UN Security Council. Keywords: [brics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brics.md), [sudan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sudan.md), [un](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/un.md), [eid al-adha](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eid-al-adha.md), [currency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/currency.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Listener Donations, Climate Change Skepticism (1:35:05–1:39:26) Donations from listeners in Australia and San Francisco are read, with one producer crediting the show for changing his perspective on "climate change religion." Another donor, Benitis, discusses his progress toward becoming the "Duke of San Francisco" and mentions an upcoming meetup in Albany. Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Airline Pilot Lawsuit, Aviation Employees for Health Freedom (1:39:26–1:43:02) An anonymous pilot for a major U.S. airline reports that a lawsuit against vaccine mandates has been granted class-action status. The group, Aviation Employees for Health Freedom (AE4HF), is seeking donations for their legal fund to continue the fight against what they describe as unjust furloughs and layoffs. Keywords: [united airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-airlines.md), [vaccine mandate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-mandate.md), [class action](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/class-action.md), ae4hf, pilot furlough [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/34.md) ### 35. Rockland County Measles Lawsuit, Vaccine Exemptions (1:43:02–1:45:33) Producer Nellie Grossenbacher shares a victory against Rockland County, New York, where 14 families fought for five years after their unvaccinated children were excluded from school during a 2018-2019 measles outbreak. The hosts discuss the long timeline required for legal justice in vaccine-related cases. Keywords: [rockland county](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rockland-county.md), [measles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/measles.md), [mmr vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mmr-vaccine.md), [religious exemption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/religious-exemption.md), [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/35.md) ### 36. Israel-Hezbollah Tensions, Ultra-Orthodox Military Draft (1:45:33–1:49:55) Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin met with Israeli officials to discuss the rising threat of war with Hezbollah in Lebanon. Simultaneously, the Israel Supreme Court ruled that the military must begin drafting ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) men, ending a decades-old exemption. The hosts discuss the internal social friction this causes within Israeli society. 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Keywords: [ndaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ndaa.md), [selective service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/selective-service.md), jack reed, women in military, israel idf [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/39.md) ### 40. Military Sodomy Pardons, Biden Vote Buying (1:57:09–1:59:43) President Biden announced pardons for thousands of veterans convicted under Article 125 of the UCMJ, which banned sodomy in the military from 1951 to 2013. The hosts characterize this as a political move to "buy votes" from the LGBTQ community, noting that those pardoned may be eligible for back pay. 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Keywords: [school board](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/school-board.md), [fredericksburg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fredericksburg.md), [aclu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aclu.md), [parental rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parental-rights.md), [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/42.md) ### 43. EV Owner Dissatisfaction, Charging Infrastructure Failures (2:04:24–2:07:46) A McKinsey survey reveals that 46% of American EV owners are likely to switch back to gas-powered cars, primarily due to a lack of public charging infrastructure. Despite $7.5 billion in federal funding approved in 2021 to build 500,000 stations, only eight have been deployed to date. 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Keywords: sand battery, [finland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/finland.md), thermal energy, [fossil fuels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fossil-fuels.md), [green energy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-energy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/45.md) ### 46. Summer Heat Advisories, Climate Change Rhetoric (2:11:50–2:14:10) Mainstream media reports emphasize "extreme heat" baking millions of Americans, though the hosts note that current temperatures in Texas are actually lower than typical summer averages. They criticize the "wild weather" narrative as a form of gaslighting. 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Keywords: [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), [global cooling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-cooling.md), [aerosols](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aerosols.md), [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [geoengineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geoengineering.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/48.md) ### 49. Climate Change "9/11" Comment, Public Persuasion (2:21:02–2:22:32) Bill Nye laments that climate change lacks a "9/11 or Pearl Harbor" moment to shock the public into immediate action. The hosts find this comparison disturbing and suggest it telegraphs a desire for a catastrophic event to drive political agendas. 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Keywords: [taxes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxes.md), [tips](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tips.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), regular income, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1672-sand-battery/chapter/56.md) ### 57. Listener Donations, Baby Karma Requests (2:43:07–2:46:54) A series of listener donations are acknowledged, including requests for "house-selling karma" for a move to New Hampshire and "baby karma" for a couple in North Carolina. The hosts also mention a "baby seal" donation and the "de-douching" of a long-time listener. 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