# Illegal Chants

> Legislative efforts to redefine illegal speech collide with a massive bird flu outbreak in the dairy supply and a historic shift in American labor law.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1655
- **Published:** 2024-04-28
- **Length:** 3h 16m
- **Topics:** Antisemitism Act, [Bird Flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bird-flu.md), Non-Compete Ban, [Gaza Flotilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza-flotilla.md), Blinken China, Cicada Broods
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants

## About this episode

The U.S. House of Representatives is advancing the Antisemitism Awareness Act, a move that critics like NYU professor Robert Cohen warn could criminalize political speech and campus protests. This legislative push coincides with a new international flotilla departing Istanbul to challenge the Israeli naval blockade of Gaza, fourteen years after the fatal Mavi Marmara incident. Meanwhile, student encampments at Columbia and George Washington University face increasing police intervention and suspensions as administrators struggle to manage escalating tensions.

Federal health officials report that H5N1 bird flu fragments have been detected in one-fifth of pasteurized milk samples across eight states, though the FDA maintains the commercial supply remains safe. In the tech sector, the FTC faces a legal challenge from the Chamber of Commerce over a new ban on non-compete agreements, a shift that could reshape trade secret protection for engineers at firms like Intel and AMD. Overseas, Ukraine has suspended consular services for military-aged men living abroad to bolster recruitment, while Secretary of State Antony Blinken met with Xi Jinping in Beijing to address China's support for the Russian defense industry.

Trillions of cicadas from two rare broods are emerging simultaneously across the American Midwest for the first time since 1803, creating noise levels comparable to a lawnmower. The amateur radio community mourns the closure of MFJ Enterprises after 52 years of production, marking a significant shift in hobbyist hardware. In a rare moment of levity, firefighters in Peachtree City, Georgia, successfully revived a 140-pound Newfoundland named Napoleon after rescuing him from a residential fire.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/transcript.md.

### 1. White House Correspondents' Dinner, Media Decline (0:00–5:18)

The 2024 White House Correspondents' Dinner is characterized as a failing event for mainstream media and Hollywood elites. Comedian Colin Jost's performance is described as ineffective, while the presence of intelligence community figures like former CIA and FBI officials is noted. The gathering is framed as a "last gasp" for traditional media outlets that are losing public attention.

Keywords: [white house correspondents' dinner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house-correspondents-dinner.md), colin jost, [kelly o'donnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kelly-o-donnell.md), [mainstream media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mainstream-media.md), nerd prom

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Fox News Leadership Changes, Brian Hoganson Memorial (5:18–7:59)

Rupert Murdoch's departure from leadership at Fox News is highlighted alongside a joke about the New York Times' reliance on mobile games like Wordle for survival. A memorial tribute is paid to Brian Hoganson of Brownwood, Texas, a long-time supporter who passed away from spinal cord cancer shortly before receiving a ceremonial knighting ring.

Keywords: [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [rupert murdoch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rupert-murdoch.md), brian hoganson, [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), brownwood texas

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Campus Antisemitism Claims, Media Polarization (7:59–9:19)

A debate emerges regarding the scale of antisemitism and the intimidation of Jewish students on American college campuses. Claims are made that right-wing media may be overstating certain incidents, while the hosts report receiving conflicting "flak" from both pro-Zionist and anti-Zionist listeners regarding their coverage of international control and influence.

Keywords: [antisemitism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antisemitism.md), [campus protests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campus-protests.md), [zionism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zionism.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md), [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Gaza Freedom Flotilla, Mavi Marmara Anniversary (9:19–11:31)

A new international coalition in Istanbul has organized a flotilla of three ships, including the Agdenis, to carry 5,000 metric tons of medical supplies and food to Gaza. This effort to break the Israeli naval blockade occurs 14 years after the Mavi Marmara incident, where an Israeli commando raid resulted in the deaths of 10 activists.

Keywords: [gaza flotilla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza-flotilla.md), [istanbul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/istanbul.md), mavi marmara, israel blockade, [humanitarian aid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/humanitarian-aid.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Antisemitism Awareness Act, Free Speech Restrictions (11:31–15:53)

The U.S. House of Representatives is moving toward legislation that would redefine antisemitic acts of harassment to include the denial of Jewish self-determination. Critics, including NYU professor Robert Cohen, argue that such measures and the pressure on university presidents threaten academic freedom and the First Amendment by equating certain protest chants with illegal acts.

Keywords: antisemitism awareness act, [house of representatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-of-representatives.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md), [mike johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-johnson.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Federal Antisemitism Strategy, Global Speech Monitoring (15:55–19:34)

Senator Jackie Rosen is leading a bipartisan effort to create a federal strategic advisor to the President focused on combating antisemitism across agencies and online platforms. Comparisons are drawn to strict speech enforcement in the UK and Canada, suggesting that similar monitoring of digital content is imminent in the United States.

Keywords: jackie rosen, [department of education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-education.md), online safety, [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), hate speech laws

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/6.md)

### 7. College Humor Magazines, Political Correctness (19:35–21:19)

The decline of traditional college humor magazines, such as the California Pelican and Harvard Lampoon, is attributed to the rise of political correctness starting in the late 1970s. The current landscape of satire is described as limited, with outlets like The Onion struggling while the Babylon Bee remains one of the few active players in the space.

Keywords: california pelican, harvard lampoon, [the onion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-onion.md), [babylon bee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/babylon-bee.md), [satire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satire.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Anti-Bullying Laws, Historical Precedents for Censorship (21:20–23:29)

A 2011 executive order by Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton forming a task force on bullying is cited as a precursor to modern speech restrictions. The argument is made that "emotional torture" and "harassment" were terms used to establish a framework for monitoring student behavior, which has now evolved into broader internet monitoring.

Keywords: governor mark dayton, [minnesota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minnesota.md), bullying laws, [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [social engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-engineering.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/8.md)

### 9. FCC Net Neutrality Vote, Broadband Reclassification (23:29–25:23)

The FCC has voted to restore net neutrality rules, reclassifying broadband as a public utility under Title II. While proponents argue this prevents ISPs from favoring specific content, skeptics suggest the "safe and fast" internet branding is a cover for increased government regulatory power and the potential blocking of decentralized content.

Keywords: [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [broadband](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadband.md), [internet service providers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-service-providers.md), public utility

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/9.md)

### 10. University Encampments, George Washington University Protests (25:23–29:05)

Student solidarity encampments for Gaza have spread to George Washington University and Columbia University, leading to suspensions and arrests. While some institutions like UC Berkeley have allowed protests to continue without police intervention, others have seen escalations that critics attribute to inexperienced university management and outside agitators.

Keywords: [george washington university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-washington-university.md), [columbia university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/columbia-university.md), [uc berkeley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uc-berkeley.md), [student protests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/student-protests.md), police intervention

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Angela Davis, Denver Campus Activism (29:06–31:14)

Marxist activist Angela Davis appeared at a protest in Denver to support students demanding that universities divest from companies tied to Israel. The rhetoric at these events is scrutinized, particularly regarding calls for financial transparency and the potential for peaceful protests to escalate into property damage.

Keywords: [angela davis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angela-davis.md), [denver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denver.md), [marxism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marxism.md), [divestment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/divestment.md), student activism

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/11.md)

### 12. London Protests, UK Labour Party Influence (31:14–32:51)

Tens of thousands of protesters marched in London for the 13th national demonstration for Palestine, with significant involvement from UK Labour Party members. The movement is putting pressure on the British government regarding arms sales to Israel and potential breaches of international law, while internal Jewish groups within the march call for an immediate ceasefire.

Keywords: [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [labour party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labour-party.md), [keir starmer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keir-starmer.md), palestine solidarity campaign, [arms sales](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arms-sales.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Tel Aviv Hostage Protests, Benjamin Netanyahu (32:51–34:56)

Thousands of Israelis gathered in Tel Aviv to demand that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government secure a hostage deal with Hamas. Protesters expressed fury over the prolonged war and called for immediate elections, fueled by a Hamas-released video showing two captives taken during the October 7th attacks.

Keywords: [tel aviv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tel-aviv.md), [benjamin netanyahu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benjamin-netanyahu.md), [hamas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamas.md), [hostages](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hostages.md), [israeli elections](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israeli-elections.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Ukraine Consular Services, Military Recruitment (34:56–37:26)

Ukraine has suspended consular services for military-aged men (18 to 60) living abroad in an effort to encourage them to return home for service. Meanwhile, in the UK, Keir Starmer is positioned as the likely next Prime Minister as the Labour Party gains political momentum.

Keywords: [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [keir starmer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keir-starmer.md), military age, consular services, [mobilization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mobilization.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Gaza Reconstruction Estimates, Debris Removal (37:27–38:56)

UN officials estimate that 37 million tons of debris must be removed from Gaza, a task that could take 14 years using 100 trucks daily. As Egypt sends a delegation to Israel to revive ceasefire talks, warnings persist against an Israeli military assault on the southern city of Rafa.

Keywords: [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md), [rafa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rafa.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), debris removal, [egypt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/egypt.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Patriot Missile Systems, European Defense Deterrence (38:56–41:26)

Ukraine is requesting seven Patriot missile defense systems from European allies, who collectively hold approximately 100 batteries. Countries like Greece and Spain have expressed hesitation to provide the systems due to concerns over their own national defense deterrence, while the U.S. focuses on rushing interceptor missiles to the region.

Keywords: [patriot missiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patriot-missiles.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [greece](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greece.md), [spain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spain.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Lockheed Martin, Finland NATO Integration (41:27–44:16)

Finland's entry into NATO is linked to the purchase of F-35 fighter jets from Lockheed Martin, with each unit costing approximately $90 million. Reports from "boots on the ground" suggest that defense funding is being prioritized for naval base relocation due to sea-level rise and a massive buildup to counter China's projected 2025 military capacity.

Keywords: [lockheed martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockheed-martin.md), [f-35](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-35.md), [finland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/finland.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), china threat

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Ukraine Aid Package, Pentagon Procurement (44:17–46:53)

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced a $6 billion aid package for Ukraine, allowing the country to purchase new weapons directly from U.S. defense contractors. This follows an immediate $1 billion transfer of existing U.S. inventory, focusing heavily on air defense, artillery ammunition, and Patriot system missiles.

Keywords: [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [lloyd austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lloyd-austin.md), [artillery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artillery.md), [missiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/missiles.md), [defense contractors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/defense-contractors.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Elon Musk, Global Energy Control Claims (46:53–50:27)

A debate continues regarding the role of Elon Musk and X in protecting free speech, with suggestions that payment integration will lead to more identification. Claims are made that the U.S. maintains global dominance through energy control, drawing parallels between current Middle East conflicts and the historical justifications for the Iraq War.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), x, [energy policy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-policy.md), [iraq war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq-war.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/19.md)

### 20. University Graduation Cancellations, Academic Calendar (50:28–52:49)

The University of Southern California canceled its main graduation ceremony due to ongoing student protests and safety concerns. Observations are made regarding the early end of the academic year at some institutions, with negotiations continuing at Columbia University to clear encampments before mid-May.

Keywords: [usc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usc.md), [columbia university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/columbia-university.md), [graduation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/graduation.md), student encampments, academic year

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Columbia University Tensions, Global Conflict Comparisons (52:52–56:29)

Jewish students at Columbia University expressed conflicting views on safety, with some fearing antisemitic rhetoric and others criticizing the militarization of the campus by police. Comparisons are drawn between current protests and the Vietnam War era, while questioning why student activists focus on Gaza over high casualty rates in Ukraine or Africa.

Keywords: [columbia university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/columbia-university.md), hillel, [vietnam war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vietnam-war.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/africa.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Youth Curfews, France and US Territories (56:30–59:31)

Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin announced a nighttime curfew for minors in the French territory of Guadeloupe to curb rising violence. Similar measures are noted in various U.S. cities, where social workers are being used to re-engage children caught violating curfews, a practice some view as a return to forgotten historical norms.

Keywords: [guadeloupe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/guadeloupe.md), [gérald darmanin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gerald-darmanin.md), [curfews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/curfews.md), youth violence, [biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biden.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Emmanuel Macron, European Cybersecurity Warnings (59:32–1:01:17)

French President Emmanuel Macron delivered a speech at Sorbonne University warning that "Europe could die" if it fails to address challenges in cybersecurity and competition from global powers. The rhetoric is interpreted as an attempt to justify increased taxation for climate and military initiatives by instilling fear in the populace.

Keywords: [emmanuel macron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emmanuel-macron.md), sorbonne, [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Cicada Brood Emergence, Biblical Proportions (1:01:18–1:05:21)

For the first time since 1803, two major broods of cicadas (the 13-year and 17-year cycles) are emerging simultaneously across the U.S. Midwest and South. Residents in Georgia and South Carolina report noise levels reaching 100 decibels, comparable to a lawnmower, as trillions of insects surface for their mating cycle.

Keywords: [cicadas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cicadas.md), brood xiii, brood xix, [georgia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/georgia.md), [illinois](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illinois.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/24.md)

### 25. FTC Non-Compete Ban, Tech Industry Impact (1:05:24–1:10:07)

The Federal Trade Commission is facing legal challenges from the Chamber of Commerce over its new ban on non-compete agreements. The tech industry is expected to be most affected, as companies like Intel and AMD have historically used these contracts to protect circuit designs and trade secrets from being carried to competitors by departing engineers.

Keywords: [ftc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ftc.md), non-compete agreements, [chamber of commerce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chamber-of-commerce.md), [intel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intel.md), [amd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amd.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Labor Market Competition, Trade Secret Protection (1:10:07–1:14:02)

Economist Vance Ginn argues that banning non-competes could lead to lower wages and reduced hiring as employers worry about protecting intellectual property. Speculation arises that the timing of the FTC's move may be linked to the competitive AI chip market and the massive capital requirements of projects led by figures like Sam Altman.

Keywords: vance ginn, [labor market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-market.md), [wages](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wages.md), [ai chips](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-chips.md), [sam altman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-altman.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Media Career Shifts, The Blaze (1:14:04–1:15:29)

The career trajectories of media personalities moving to The Blaze are discussed, with Jason Whitlock cited as an example of a figure who became less visible after leaving mainstream platforms. The hosts joke about potential roles at the Daily Wire following the departure of Candace Owens.

Keywords: [glenn beck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-beck.md), [jason whitlock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jason-whitlock.md), [ben shapiro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-shapiro.md), [the blaze](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-blaze.md), [candace owens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/candace-owens.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/27.md)

### 28. mRNA Cancer Vaccine Trials, Melanoma Treatment (1:15:29–1:17:52)

NHS patients in the UK have begun trials for a personalized mRNA vaccine designed to treat melanoma. The experimental treatment, which identifies proteins unique to an individual's tumor, is used in combination with other drugs and has shown a 49% reduction in the risk of death or recurrence over three years in early stages.

Keywords: [mrna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mrna.md), [melanoma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/melanoma.md), [nhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nhs.md), [cancer moonshot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cancer-moonshot.md), immunotherapy

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Therapeutic mRNA Technology, Immune System Priming (1:17:53–1:20:58)

The shift in medical science toward mRNA-based therapeutic approaches is examined, specifically how these vaccines prime the immune system to attack cancer cells. Critics question the long-term efficacy and the definition of "vaccine" as the technology moves from preventative infectious disease measures to personalized cancer treatments.

Keywords: [mrna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mrna.md), [spike protein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spike-protein.md), immunotherapy, medical science, [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Bird Flu in Dairy Herds, PCR Testing (1:20:59–1:24:54)

The FDA reports that one in five samples of pasteurized milk tested contains fragments of the H5N1 bird flu virus, which has been detected in 33 herds across eight states. While officials maintain that pasteurized milk is safe, the use of high-cycle PCR testing to find viral fragments is criticized as a potential psychological operation against the beef and dairy industries.

Keywords: [bird flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bird-flu.md), [h5n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h5n1.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [pcr testing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pcr-testing.md), [dairy cows](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dairy-cows.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Public Health Response, Frankenstein Flu Concerns (1:24:54–1:28:55)

Medical experts like Dr. Celine Gounder emphasize that viral fragments in milk do not indicate live infectious virus. However, public health officials are monitoring for potential transmission to pigs, which are considered "mixing vessels" that could lead to the mutation of a more dangerous "Frankenstein" flu strain capable of human-to-human spread.

Keywords: [dr. celine gounder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-celine-gounder.md), kff health news, [pasteurization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pasteurization.md), [pigs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pigs.md), [zoonotic transmission](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zoonotic-transmission.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Scott Gottlieb, Agricultural Testing Conflicts (1:28:56–1:33:06)

Former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb notes a tension between federal health agencies and state agricultural regulators, who have been reluctant to allow inspectors onto farms. Testing milk is described as a "backdoor" way for the CDC and FDA to identify outbreaks on farms where they lack direct access, similar to previous strategies used during E. coli outbreaks in romaine lettuce.

Keywords: [scott gottlieb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-gottlieb.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [usda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usda.md), illumina, [e. coli](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/e-coli.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Bird Flu Vaccine Development, Industry Motives (1:33:06–1:34:59)

Speculation arises that the bird flu narrative is being used to drive the development and sale of new mRNA vaccines for livestock. The hosts suggest that the ultimate goal may be the culling of herds or the forced vaccination of the food supply, rather than a genuine public health emergency.

Keywords: [h1n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h1n1.md), [mrna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mrna.md), [cattle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cattle.md), [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [food supply](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-supply.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Salmonella Regulations, Raw Poultry Standards (1:34:59–1:39:05)

The USDA is implementing new rules to declare Salmonella an "adulterant" in certain raw poultry products, such as frozen breaded chicken. Producers will be required to reduce bacteria levels to very low thresholds, leading to concerns that the industry will resort to chemical treatments like bleach dipping to meet the new standards.

Keywords: [salmonella](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salmonella.md), [usda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usda.md), chicken kiev, [food safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-safety.md), bleach dipping

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Sponsor segment: Children's Books, No Agenda ABC (1:39:06–1:40:44)

A new $33 children's book and a coloring book titled "Exit Strategy" are promoted as tools for parents to discuss complex social concepts with their children. The products are available through noagendaabc.com and are described as high-quality physical media for families.

Keywords: no agenda abc, coloring book, children's literature, [exit strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exit-strategy.md), [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Texas Border Indictments, Governor Greg Abbott (1:40:44–1:42:56)

A Texas grand jury indicted over 140 individuals on misdemeanor rioting charges following a mass attempt to breach the border in El Paso. This follows a county judge's initial dismissal of the case, while Governor Greg Abbott faces criticism for his handling of border security and his perceived "showboating" at Eagle Pass.

Keywords: [el paso](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/el-paso.md), [greg abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-abbott.md), [illegal immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illegal-immigration.md), [grand jury](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grand-jury.md), rioting charges

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Border Wall Funding, GEO Group Contracts (1:42:56–1:46:10)

A GAO report found that the Biden administration used funds allocated for the border wall to conduct environmental planning instead. Simultaneously, the Florida-based GEO Group secured a $25 million annual contract to provide air operations support for ICE, facilitating the transport of immigrants within the country.

Keywords: [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [gao](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gao.md), [geo group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geo-group.md), [ice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ice.md), immigration flights

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/37.md)

### 38. AI Audio Scandal, Pikesville High School (1:46:11–1:51:51)

An audio clip featuring racist and antisemitic comments allegedly made by Pikesville High School Principal Eric Eiswert has sparked outrage in Baltimore. While school officials and some experts suggest the clip might be an AI-generated deepfake, the hosts analyze the audio and speculate it may be a genuine recording being dismissed as AI to cover up a scandal.

Keywords: pikesville high school, eric eiswert, [ai audio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-audio.md), [baltimore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baltimore.md), [deepfake](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deepfake.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/38.md)

### 39. AI in Research and Film, Glitch Detection (1:51:54–1:56:28)

A London librarian's analysis of 5 million scientific studies revealed a massive spike in words like "meticulously" and "intricate," suggesting widespread use of ChatGPT in academic writing. Similarly, Netflix's documentary "What Jennifer Did" faced criticism for allegedly using AI-generated photos of Jennifer Pan, identifiable by "glitches" in the rendering of human hands.

Keywords: [chatgpt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chatgpt.md), scientific studies, [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), jennifer pan, [generative ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/generative-ai.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Ham Radio Industry, MFJ Enterprises Closing (1:56:29–1:58:58)

MFJ Enterprises, a staple of the amateur radio community for 52 years, announced it is ceasing production of its antennas and accessories. The closure marks the end of an era for marquee brands like Hy-Gain and Cushcraft, as the hobby shifts toward newer technologies like Meshtastic mesh networking.

Keywords: mfj enterprises, [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), [antennas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antennas.md), meshtastic, [k5acc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/k5acc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Refurbished Intel NUC, Hardware Value (1:58:59–2:02:45)

The value of refurbished Intel NUC 5 units is highlighted, with the hosts noting they can be purchased for around $68 including a Windows license. These units are compared favorably to Beelink mini-PCs for podcast production tasks, despite having lower base RAM that may require inexpensive upgrades.

Keywords: intel nuc, [beelink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beelink.md), refurbished hardware, [windows](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/windows.md), [podcast production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-production.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Australian eSafety Commissioner, X Content Removal (2:02:46–2:05:14)

The Australian eSafety Commissioner, a former Twitter employee, is attempting to force X to remove footage of a knife attack on a priest in Sydney globally. Elon Musk has opposed the directive, leading to a debate over the reach of national legislation and the historical use of ISP-level blocking for sites like Zero Hedge and 8chan.

Keywords: [julie inman grant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/julie-inman-grant.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), x, online censorship

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/42.md)

### 43. NPR CEO Catherine Maher, Institutional Trust (2:05:16–2:09:29)

New NPR CEO Catherine Maher's background in government-funded NGOs and "color revolutions" is scrutinized following an interview on Reid Hoffman's podcast. Maher's comments on the internet's role in exposing "fissures" in institutions and the need for "human SLAs" (Service Level Agreements) are criticized as bureaucratic jargon.

Keywords: [catherine maher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catherine-maher.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [reid hoffman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reid-hoffman.md), [color revolutions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/color-revolutions.md), slas

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Podcast Networks, Streaming Service Churn (2:09:29–2:12:41)

The traditional media "lineup" model is described as dead, with consumers increasingly using a "churn" strategy of subscribing to services like Netflix or Hulu to binge specific content before canceling. The "value for value" model is presented as the only sustainable path forward for independent creators as major networks like Paramount face financial collapse.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), [hulu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hulu.md), [paramount](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paramount.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Catch and Kill, Media Suppression Tactics (2:12:43–2:15:54)

The practice of "catch and kill"—buying the rights to a story specifically to prevent its publication—is discussed in the context of the National Enquirer. A host shares a personal anecdote about a Silicon Valley magazine paying for a "top ten" story that was never published, illustrating how the tactic is used beyond political scandals.

Keywords: [david pecker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-pecker.md), [national enquirer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-enquirer.md), [catch and kill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catch-and-kill.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Donald Trump Trial, Gag Order Violations (2:15:54–2:19:44)

Testimony from former National Enquirer publisher David Pecker detailed his efforts to protect Donald Trump's 2016 campaign by burying negative stories. Meanwhile, prosecutors are seeking to hold Trump in criminal contempt for violating a gag order that prevents him from attacking trial witnesses like Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [david pecker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-pecker.md), [stormy daniels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stormy-daniels.md), [michael cohen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-cohen.md), [gag order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gag-order.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Trump Courtroom Observations, Media Access (2:19:46–2:22:45)

Details from the Trump trial include allegations that the National Enquirer promoted fake stories about political opponents Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. The media's ability to report on Trump's facial expressions is explained by the presence of a camera feed in the courtroom overflow room, which provides a direct view not available to those sitting behind the defense table.

Keywords: [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), [marco rubio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marco-rubio.md), [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), courtroom sketch, overflow room

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Supreme Court Immunity Hearing, Presidential Pardons (2:22:46–2:27:20)

The Supreme Court heard arguments regarding presidential immunity, with Justices Alito and Gorsuch questioning the implications of a president's ability to pardon themselves. The discussion explored whether the threat of future prosecution would incentivize outgoing presidents to issue self-pardons to ensure "bold and fearless action" while in office.

Keywords: [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [samuel alito](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/samuel-alito.md), [neil gorsuch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-gorsuch.md), self-pardon, [immunity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immunity.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Antony Blinken in China, Xi Jinping Meeting (2:27:20–2:29:52)

Secretary of State Antony Blinken met with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing to warn against China's support for Russia's military efforts in Ukraine. While Blinken emphasized maintaining lines of communication to avoid miscalculation, Xi called for "common ground" rather than "vicious competition" between the two superpowers.

Keywords: [antony blinken](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antony-blinken.md), [xi jinping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xi-jinping.md), [beijing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beijing.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), war materiel

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/49.md)

### 50. No Agenda Production, Listener Contributions (2:29:53–2:34:21)

The hosts discuss the "value for value" production model, thanking listeners for providing time, talent, and treasure, including legal analysis and custom artwork. Artist Matt Boivere is credited for the episode's cover art, while the role of the dog Phoebe in the show's dynamic is debated among the audience.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), episodic art, matt boivere, [phoebe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/phoebe.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Digital De-platforming, Historical Censorship (2:34:22–2:36:36)

Concerns are raised about the potential for major platforms like Apple and Spotify to de-platform podcasts based on new federal laws regarding "illegal chants" or speech. The roots of modern self-censorship are traced back to the "politically correct" movement of the late 1970s, which evolved into today's hate speech and bullying regulations.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), [political correctness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-correctness.md), speakers' corner

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/51.md)

### 52. Executive Producer Donations, Boeing Safety Issues (2:36:37–2:41:12)

James from Western Australia is elevated to Executive Producer following a significant donation. Amidst the donor thank-yous, a news update mentions a Delta Airlines flight forced to return to JFK Airport after losing an emergency slide mid-air, adding to the ongoing safety concerns surrounding Boeing aircraft.

Keywords: [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [delta airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-airlines.md), [jfk airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jfk-airport.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/52.md)

### 53. Listener Feedback, Disability in Politics (2:41:12–2:45:07)

A listener with cerebral palsy provides feedback on the hosts' criticism of Governor Greg Abbott, agreeing that his use of a wheelchair may shield him from certain political critiques due to "ableism." The segment includes various donor acknowledgments and a discussion on the importance of independent media analysis.

Keywords: cerebral palsy, [greg abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-abbott.md), [ableism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ableism.md), [central oregon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/central-oregon.md), [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/53.md)

### 54. Travel and Agriculture, Small Batch Coffee (2:45:08–2:48:07)

Listeners are encouraged to support local farmers' markets and small-batch artisans as a defense against disruptions in the food supply. A travel agent producer offers services for river cruises, while "Eli the Coffee Guy" promotes Gigawatt Coffee Roasters as a high-quality alternative to corporate brands.

Keywords: river cruises, [farmers markets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/farmers-markets.md), [gigawatt coffee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gigawatt-coffee.md), [small business](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/small-business.md), [food supply](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-supply.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/54.md)

### 55. Coffee Brewing Techniques, Executive Resumes (2:48:07–2:53:32)

A detailed discussion on coffee brewing explores the benefits of the Breville espresso machine and the transition from dark to light roasts. Additionally, Linda Lupatkin of Image Makers Inc. is recognized for her long-standing support and her professional executive resume services.

Keywords: breville, french press, light roast, sumatra, [linda lupatkin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linda-lupatkin.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/55.md)

### 56. Final Donor Credits, Birthday Announcements (2:53:33–3:00:14)

The show concludes with an extensive list of "sustaining donors" and individual contributors who support the program through various platforms. Birthday wishes are extended to several members of the "No Agenda" community, and the "value for value" model is reiterated as the show's primary funding mechanism.

Keywords: [sustaining donors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sustaining-donors.md), [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [no agenda donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-donations.md), [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/56.md)

### 57. Knighting Ceremony, Sir Troutmilt (3:00:14–3:03:22)

John Walter is officially knighted as "Sir Troutmilt, Guardian of the Squilchuck" after completing a 20-month "layaway" donation period. The ceremony includes the traditional presentation of a signet ring and a certificate of authenticity, marking his entry into the No Agenda Roundtable.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [signet ring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/signet-ring.md), [layaway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/layaway.md), sir troutmilt, [no agenda roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-roundtable.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/57.md)

### 58. Global Meetup Reports, Community Events (3:03:26–3:06:20)

Reports from recent listener meetups in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and Raleigh, North Carolina, are shared, highlighting the community's growth. Upcoming events are announced for various international locations, including Toronto, Amsterdam, and Trinidad and Tobago, encouraging listeners to organize their own local gatherings.

Keywords: [fort wine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fort-wine.md), [raleigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raleigh.md), [toronto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toronto.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [no agenda meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-meetups.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/58.md)

### 59. End-of-Show ISO Selection, Jeff Jarvis (3:06:22–3:08:48)

The hosts select the "End-of-Show ISO" (isolated sound bite), considering clips from Jeff Jarvis and others. The chosen clip, "See you later," is intended to provide a lighthearted conclusion to the broadcast, contrasting with the heavy subject matter discussed throughout the episode.

Keywords: [iso](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iso.md), [jeff jarvis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-jarvis.md), [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/production.md), [sound bites](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sound-bites.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/59.md)

### 60. Napoleon the Newfoundland, Peachtree City Rescue (3:08:49–3:11:03)

In a "good news" segment, the story of Napoleon, a 140-pound Newfoundland dog, is shared. Firefighters in Peachtree City, Georgia, rescued the lifeless dog from a burning condo through a bedroom window and successfully revived him using life-saving measures, leading to a healthy reunion with his family.

Keywords: newfoundland dog, peachtree city, fire rescue, [napoleon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/napoleon.md), [good news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/good-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/60.md)

### 61. Sign-off and Final Mix, Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged (3:11:04–3:16:53)

The hosts sign off from FEMA Region 6 and Northern Silicon Valley, promoting the upcoming 700th episode of "Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged." The broadcast concludes with a signature audio mix featuring recurring themes, including the dog Phoebe, "trap dog" references, and satirical commentary on Donald Trump's courtroom presence.

Keywords: [dvorak horowitz unplugged](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dvorak-horowitz-unplugged.md), [fema region 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema-region-6.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), trump farts, [podcast mix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-mix.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1655-illegal-chants/chapter/61.md)

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