# Waterboarding For Everyone!

> A resurgence in torture advocacy meets the reality of invasive airport scanners and the corporate corruption of the global financial bailout.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 164
- **Published:** 2010-01-10
- **Length:** 2h 3m
- **Topics:** [Waterboarding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/waterboarding.md), TSA Scanners, Geithner, [Yemen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yemen.md), [AIG](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aig.md), Avatar 3D, [Tea Party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tea-party.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone

## About this episode

The media is aggressively rehabilitating waterboarding as a legitimate interrogation tool following the Northwest Flight 253 incident. Bill O'Reilly and Monica Crowley lead the charge for coerced interrogation, while Rasmussen polls are used to manufacture public consent for medieval-style torture. The hosts argue that normalizing these techniques for terrorists inevitably leads to their adoption by municipal police departments against common citizens.

TSA body scanners are exposed as security theater, as simple Photoshop inversion filters can strip away privacy protections to reveal anatomical details. Meanwhile, research from Los Alamos National Laboratory suggests terahertz radiation may cause DNA damage, yet safety standards remain opaque. In Yemen, the expansion of the War on Terror is linked to horizontal drilling interests for Saudi oil, while at home, Timothy Geithner faces scrutiny over leaked emails regarding the AIG bailout and Goldman Sachs payments.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the Dracula Sneeze hoax and the arbitrary nature of airport security, where Halle Berry receives a pass while Joan Rivers is detained for plastic surgery discrepancies. The episode features executive producers Peter White and Sven Middelkoop, and concludes with a look at the extreme opulence of Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/transcript.md.

### 1. Gitmo Nation West, San Francisco Fog, and High-Speed Rail (0:01–3:08)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the session from San Francisco, noting the heavy fog and local "Spare the Air" restrictions on wood-burning fires. They discuss a Wired article regarding a proposed 14-level underground bus station and high-speed rail hub. The hosts express skepticism regarding the feasibility of French TGV or German ICE style trains operating on existing local tracks.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), spare the air, [high-speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), [tgv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tgv.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Executive Producer Peter White, Associate Sven Middelkoop, and Hollywood Titles (3:09–5:45)

Peter White of Cambridge and Sven Middelkoop of the Netherlands are credited as executive producers for the episode following their financial contributions. The hosts reflect on the film The Player by Robert Altman, noting how the movie illustrates the weight and vanity of professional titles in the media industry. They emphasize that these listener-donated titles carry legitimate weight within the show's production framework.

Keywords: peter white, sven middelkoop, [cambridge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cambridge.md), [the netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-netherlands.md), the player, robert altman, [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/2.md)

### 3. World War Warehouse Website Support and Media Assassination (5:46–7:34)

A website titled World War Warehouse has redirected its traffic to the No Agenda show during a supplier-related outage. The site's landing page encourages visitors to donate to Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak to "save the nation." The hosts speculate on the site's original purpose while embracing the "media assassination" branding.

Keywords: worldwarwarehouse.com, [media assassination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-assassination.md), website outage, [podcast support](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-support.md), [donation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Lisa Jardine, Royal Society, and Climate Change Education (7:35–9:53)

Science pundit Lisa Jardine is featured in a BBC clip discussing the Royal Society's role in lobbying for public science education. Jardine expresses concern that 40% of the British public does not believe climate change is man-made, attributing this to a failure in education. The hosts criticize her stance as arrogant and dismissive of scientific skepticism.

Keywords: lisa jardine, [royal society](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/royal-society.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [public education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-education.md), science pundit

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Waterboarding Promotion, Bill O'Reilly, and the Underwear Bomber (9:54–13:09)

The media is reportedly seeing a resurgence in the promotion of waterboarding as an effective interrogation tool following the attempted bombing by a Nigerian national. Bill O'Reilly is highlighted for advocating "coerced interrogation" and criticizing the decision to try terrorists in civilian courts. The hosts question the narrative surrounding the 23-year-old suspect, noting his lack of typical extremist characteristics and the suspicious nature of his alleged training in Yemen.

Keywords: [waterboarding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/waterboarding.md), [bill o'reilly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-o-reilly.md), [torture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/torture.md), [underwear bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/underwear-bomber.md), nigerian terrorist, [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [yemen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yemen.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Bob Barr, Karl Rove, and the Interrogation Debate (13:09–15:35)

Libertarian Bob Barr and former Bush advisor Karl Rove are cited in a debate regarding the dismantling of Bush-era security policies. Critics argue that closing Guantanamo Bay and moving to civilian trials endangers national security. The discussion focuses on the shift away from "coerced interrogation" and the political fallout of these policy changes.

Keywords: [bob barr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-barr.md), [karl rove](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karl-rove.md), [guantanamo bay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/guantanamo-bay.md), coerced interrogation, civil court, terrorism policy

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Monica Crowley, Glenn Beck, and Enhanced Interrogation (15:35–18:42)

Monica Crowley, appearing on the McLaughlin Group, advocates for enhanced interrogation techniques to extract information from terrorists. The segment notes Crowley's history as an advisor to Richard Nixon and her current role as a conservative media pundit. The hosts contrast her fast-talking style with other female pundits like Ann Coulter and Megyn Kelly.

Keywords: [monica crowley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monica-crowley.md), [glenn beck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-beck.md), [mclaughlin group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mclaughlin-group.md), [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [waterboarding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/waterboarding.md), [richard nixon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-nixon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Flight 253 Passenger Silence and Anti-Muslim Sentiment (18:43–21:33)

Questions are raised regarding the lack of mainstream media interviews with the nearly 300 passengers aboard the Northwest flight targeted by the "underwear bomber." The hosts discuss reports of a man filming the incident and the subsequent detention of passengers by the FBI. They express concern that the event is being used to fuel an anti-Muslim movement, comparing suggestions of identifying Muslims to historical genocidal processes.

Keywords: flight 253, [northwest airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/northwest-airlines.md), [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), muslim profiling, [genocide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/genocide.md), [civil liberties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-liberties.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Spanish Inquisition, Tower of London, and Torture History (21:33–24:05)

The hosts provide historical context for waterboarding, noting its roots in the Spanish Inquisition and the Tower of London. They argue that the current media normalization of torture is a regression toward medieval sadism. The discussion suggests that if waterboarding is acceptable, there is little logical barrier to reviving other forms of physical torment like the Iron Maiden.

Keywords: spanish inquisition, tower of london, [iron maiden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iron-maiden.md), torture history, sadism

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Rasmussen Polls, Fox News, and Manufacturing Consent (24:05–26:23)

A Rasmussen poll reported by Fox News indicates that 58% of Americans support waterboarding the attempted Christmas Day bomber. The hosts deconstruct the phrasing of the poll, suggesting it is designed to lead respondents toward a specific answer. They argue that the branding of the Rasmussen poll as "always right" is a tactic to manufacture public consent for controversial policies.

Keywords: [rasmussen reports](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rasmussen-reports.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [polling data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/polling-data.md), [public opinion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-opinion.md), [waterboarding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/waterboarding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Normalization of Torture and Municipal Police Risks (26:24–28:43)

The hosts warn that the public is being conditioned to view waterboarding as harmless through media stunts where journalists undergo the procedure. They express concern that this normalization could eventually lead to the use of such techniques by municipal police departments. The discussion posits that once the line is crossed for terrorists, it will inevitably be moved for common criminals and gangsters.

Keywords: [torture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/torture.md), [police department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-department.md), [human rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights.md), [conditioning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conditioning.md), media stunts

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/11.md)

### 12. TSA Body Scanners, Photoshop Inversion, and Privacy (28:44–30:07)

Claims that TSA full-body scanners protect passenger privacy are challenged by the fact that the images can be easily inverted in Photoshop to reveal anatomical details. The hosts describe how simple image filters can make a person appear fully naked and recognizable. They argue that the "privacy filters" touted by security agencies are a deceptive form of security theater.

Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [body scanners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/body-scanners.md), [backscatter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/backscatter.md), [photoshop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/photoshop.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [airport security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-security.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Terahertz Radiation, DNA Damage, and ANSI Standards (30:08–33:16)

Research from Los Alamos National Laboratory suggests that terahertz radiation used in airport scanners may cause damage to human DNA. The hosts highlight the lack of long-term health studies on millimeter-wave technology and the difficulty in accessing ANSI safety standards. They note that existing safety guidelines often focus on the operators of the machinery rather than the passengers being scanned.

Keywords: terahertz radiation, [millimeter wave](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/millimeter-wave.md), [dna damage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dna-damage.md), los alamos national laboratory, ansi standards, [health risks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-risks.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/13.md)

### 14. TSA Pat-Down Options and Civil Disobedience (33:16–35:32)

Passengers are reminded that TSA full-body scans are legally optional and can be replaced by a pat-down procedure. The hosts encourage listeners to request private pat-downs as a form of civil disobedience to slow down the security apparatus. They argue that clogging the system is the only way to force a reconsideration of invasive scanning technologies.

Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [pat-down](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pat-down.md), [civil disobedience](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-disobedience.md), [airport security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airport-security.md), [sfo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sfo.md), private screening

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/14.md)

### 15. WeSeeYou Technologies, Pre-Crime, and Israeli Security Firms (35:32–38:00)

Israeli-based WeSeeYou Technologies is developing "mind-reading" systems for airports designed to detect subtle emotional reactions to familiar images. The hosts compare this technology to the "pre-crime" concept in Minority Report, where individuals are arrested for thoughts rather than actions. They also note the dominance of Israeli firms like ICTS in global airport security infrastructure.

Keywords: weseeyou technologies, [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [minority report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minority-report.md), [pre-crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pre-crime.md), icts, mind reading

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/15.md)

### 16. TSA Security Theater and Overreaction Parody (37:59–39:56)

A parody PSA highlights the TSA's tendency to overreact to minor threats while missing major ones, citing incidents in Newark and Bakersfield. The satirical clip mocks the agency for closing entire terminals over wrong-way walkers and honey in luggage. The hosts use the parody to illustrate the "miserable" travel experience created by current security protocols.

Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [security theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-theater.md), [newark airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newark-airport.md), [bakersfield](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bakersfield.md), [parody](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parody.md), overreaction

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Heroin Use, TSA Agents, and Functional Addiction (39:56–42:27)

Following a listener tip from a rehab professional, the hosts discuss the phenomenon of functional heroin addicts in high-stress jobs. They reference an incident at LAX where a TSA agent was fired after a drug-fueled outburst. The segment jokingly suggests that the repetitive, soul-crushing nature of TSA work might drive employees toward narcotics.

Keywords: [heroin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heroin.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), functional addict, [lax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lax.md), [las vegas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/las-vegas.md), [rehab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rehab.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Horizontal Drilling in Yemen and Waterboarding Politicians (42:27–45:01)

The expansion of the War on Terror into Yemen is linked to the potential use of horizontal drilling to access Saudi oil fields from across the border. In a satirical turn, the hosts propose that waterboarding should be used during Senate confirmation hearings for officials like Timothy Geithner. They argue that if the technique is as effective as pundits claim, it should be used to ensure the honesty of elected representatives.

Keywords: [yemen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yemen.md), horizontal drilling, [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil.md), [senate confirmation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate-confirmation.md), [timothy geithner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-geithner.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/18.md)

### 19. CIA Base Bombing, Humam al-Balawi, and Security Lapses (45:03–47:22)

New details emerge regarding the bombing of a CIA base in Afghanistan by Jordanian doctor Humam al-Balawi. Contrary to initial reports of a suicide vest, some sources suggest a car bomb was used to target a gym where operatives had gathered. The hosts discuss the failure of security protocols that allowed a "regular" on the base to bypass thorough inspections.

Keywords: [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), humam al-balawi, [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), jordanian intelligence, [car bomb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/car-bomb.md), [suicide bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suicide-bomber.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Fake Secret Service Badges and Drone Control Centers (47:23–50:46)

A security breach involving a man using a fake Secret Service badge to gain access to Secretary Kathleen Sebelius highlights vulnerabilities in federal buildings. The hosts also discuss the location of drone pilots, noting that many operate out of trailers in Las Vegas rather than from forward operating bases. They characterize these security lapses as proof that current measures are largely performative.

Keywords: [secret service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secret-service.md), [kathleen sebelius](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kathleen-sebelius.md), [security breach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-breach.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), creech air force base, [las vegas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/las-vegas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Jay Leno Show Cancellation and NBC Late Night Drama (50:48–53:19)

The cancellation of The Jay Leno Show at 10:00 PM is confirmed, leading to a reshuffling of NBC's late-night lineup. The hosts discuss the potential move of Leno back to 11:30 PM and the displacement of Conan O'Brien. They criticize Leno's history of maneuvering to keep his time slot and the overall decline in viewership for traditional late-night television.

Keywords: [jay leno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-leno.md), [conan o'brien](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conan-o-brien.md), [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [late night](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/late-night.md), [jimmy kimmel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-kimmel.md), [david letterman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-letterman.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Earth 2100, History Channel, and General Electric Propaganda (53:20–55:59)

The History Channel's Earth 2100 is identified as a "scare movie" promoting climate change alarmism and corporate solutions. The hosts point out that the film's parent company, General Electric, stands to profit from the green energy technologies advocated in the program. They also note the appearance of former "Green Czar" Van Jones and the promotion of Monsanto's drought-resistant crops.

Keywords: earth 2100, [history channel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/history-channel.md), [general electric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-electric.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [van jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/van-jones.md), [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Mother Jones, Bill Moyers, and Financial Corruption (56:01–58:43)

Journalists David Corn and Kevin Drum appear on Bill Moyers Journal to discuss the Mother Jones cover story "Too Big to Jail." The investigation reveals how members of finance committees received millions in donations from banks while weakening regulations on derivatives. The hosts highlight the bipartisan nature of this corruption, noting that top Democrats held closed-door meetings with the same bankers who funded their campaigns.

Keywords: [mother jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mother-jones.md), [bill moyers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-moyers.md), [david corn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-corn.md), kevin drum, [derivatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/derivatives.md), [bank bailouts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-bailouts.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Political Impasse, Tea Party, and Corporate Personhood (58:44–1:01:09)

The hosts observe a rare alignment between the far left and the Tea Party right regarding corporate bailouts and financial corruption. They argue that social wedge issues like abortion and religion are used to prevent these groups from forming a unified front against the "corporatocracy." The discussion also touches on the legal status of corporations as individuals and the resulting lack of accountability for criminal actions.

Keywords: [tea party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tea-party.md), [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), [corporate personhood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corporate-personhood.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md), wealth distribution

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Corporate Accountability, Blackwater, and Aviation Contracts (1:01:10–1:03:54)

The lack of criminal prosecution for corporations is contrasted with the harsh treatment of individuals, with the hosts suggesting that entire boards of directors should face prison for corporate fraud. Meanwhile, Xe Services (formerly Blackwater) is reportedly bidding on a $1 billion Pentagon contract for aviation services in Afghanistan. The hosts characterize the company's rebranding as a persistent "money grab."

Keywords: [blackwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackwater.md), [xe services](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xe-services.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), corporate crime, [ceo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ceo.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Timothy Geithner, AIG Bailout, and Leaked Emails (1:03:55–1:06:17)

Leaked emails suggest that the New York Federal Reserve, under Timothy Geithner, pressured AIG to keep quiet about paying banks 100 cents on the dollar during the 2008 bailout. The payments primarily benefited firms like Goldman Sachs and Societe Generale using public funds. The hosts argue that these leaks are intended to force Geithner out of the Treasury Department due to his perceived weakness and incompetence.

Keywords: [timothy geithner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-geithner.md), [aig](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aig.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [credit default swaps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credit-default-swaps.md), [emails](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emails.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Roman Abramovich, New Year's Eve, and Russian Billionaire Wealth (1:06:18–1:10:08)

Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich hosted a $5 million New Year's Eve party in St. Barts featuring performances by Beyonce, Prince, and Gwen Stefani. The hosts detail Abramovich's immense wealth, including his 517-foot yacht Eclipse and his private Boeing 767 known as "The Bandit." They contrast this extreme opulence with the modest lives of their listeners and the "public service" nature of the podcast.

Keywords: [roman abramovich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roman-abramovich.md), [st. barts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/st-barts.md), [paul allen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-allen.md), [beyonce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beyonce.md), [prince](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prince.md), [gwen stefani](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gwen-stefani.md), [yacht](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yacht.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Value for Value, Instapaper, and Show Note Preservation (1:10:08–1:13:38)

The hosts discuss the "Value for Value" funding model, contrasting the high fees paid to pop stars with the voluntary donations that support the show. They announce plans to use Instapaper to create permanent, searchable archives of their show notes to prevent information from being lost to the "Ministry of Truth." This initiative aims to provide a long-term record of the alternative news sources discussed on the program.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), instapaper, [show notes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-notes.md), [digital preservation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-preservation.md), [ministry of truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ministry-of-truth.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Ad Council PSAs and the January Advertising Slump (1:13:38–1:16:09)

A listener inquiry regarding the prevalence of Ad Council commercials leads to an explanation of the television advertising cycle. The hosts explain that after the heavy spending of the fourth quarter, January is a "light" month for paid ads, forcing networks to fill time with free Public Service Announcements. They clarify that these PSAs are fillers used to maintain the standard 40-minute content to 20-minute ad ratio.

Keywords: [ad council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ad-council.md), [psa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psa.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), fourth quarter, [television production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television-production.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Producer Credits, Dizzy Drops App, and Canadian Parliament (1:16:10–1:19:00)

The hosts acknowledge several high-tier donors, including Alan Cleland, who is donating revenue from his iPhone game "Dizzy Drops" to the show. Other contributors from Puerto Rico, Finland, and the UK are recognized. A Canadian producer notes that Prime Minister Stephen Harper is proroguing Parliament to avoid international criticism during the upcoming Olympics.

Keywords: dizzy drops, [iphone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iphone.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [olympics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/olympics.md), [stephen harper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-harper.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Avatar 3D Technology, Mind Control, and Holograms (1:19:00–1:22:16)

The film Avatar is discussed not just as a movie, but as a vehicle for 3D technology that could be used for psychological conditioning. The hosts recount a 15-year-old Hollywood demonstration of glasses-free holograms that were indistinguishable from reality. They suggest that the current push for 3D home entertainment is designed to increase the efficacy of media-based mind control on younger generations.

Keywords: [avatar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/avatar.md), [james cameron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-cameron.md), 3d television, [mind control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mind-control.md), [holograms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holograms.md), [steven spielberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steven-spielberg.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Donation Triggers, Ayn Rand, and the Russian Connection (1:22:15–1:24:44)

The hosts reiterate their "Value for Value" philosophy, referencing Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged and the concept of an "adless drug." They encourage listeners to set up recurring $5 monthly donations to provide a stable base for the show's operations. The segment concludes with a final look at the social circles of Russian oligarchs and the difficulty of gaining access to their elite events.

Keywords: [ayn rand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ayn-rand.md), [atlas shrugged](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atlas-shrugged.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [dvorak.org](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dvorak-org.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Halle Berry, Joan Rivers, and Airport Security Double Standards (1:24:44–1:27:05)

A controversy in Canada involves an officer allowing Halle Berry and her family to bypass security lines at Montreal's Trudeau Airport, sparking claims of celebrity favoritism. In contrast, Joan Rivers was reportedly detained due to a passport photo that no longer matched her face following extensive plastic surgery. The hosts use these anecdotes to highlight the arbitrary and inconsistent nature of airport security enforcement.

Keywords: [halle berry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/halle-berry.md), [joan rivers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joan-rivers.md), montreal airport, [passport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/passport.md), [plastic surgery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plastic-surgery.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/33.md)

### 34. F-16 Escorts, Hawaiian Airlines, and Security Overreach (1:27:04–1:30:34)

Two separate incidents involve F-16 fighter jets escorting commercial airliners due to "unruly" passengers. In one case, a man was detained after a flight attendant read a sealed, non-confidential comment card expressing his frustration. The hosts question the logic and cost of scrambling military jets for verbal disputes, labeling it as an extreme form of security theater.

Keywords: [f-16](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-16.md), hawaiian airlines, [colorado springs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado-springs.md), [air force](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-force.md), [security theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-theater.md), comment card

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Words of the Year and the Dracula Sneeze Hoax (1:30:35–1:32:06)

"Google" and "Tweet" are named words of the year, but the hosts focus on the "Dracula Sneeze"—the act of sneezing into one's elbow. They suspect the term is a media hoax or a manufactured phrase, as they have never heard it used in common parlance. The segment mocks news anchors for reporting on the term without questioning its validity or origin.

Keywords: [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), tweet, dracula sneeze, [word of the year](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/word-of-the-year.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Unemployment Statistics, Nancy Pelosi, and California's Budget (1:32:06–1:36:24)

While official reports show 85,000 jobs lost in December, the hosts point to a much larger increase in people dropping out of the labor force entirely. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's request for a $7 billion federal bailout for California is reportedly being blocked by the state's own representatives, including Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein. The hosts express confusion over why California's congressional delegation would oppose funding for their own bankrupt state.

Keywords: [unemployment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unemployment.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [arnold schwarzenegger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arnold-schwarzenegger.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [federal funding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-funding.md), bums

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/36.md)

### 37. European Cold Snap, HAARP Theories, and BBC Weather (1:36:25–1:39:20)

Record cold temperatures across Europe have led to gas rationing in Britain and skating on the canals in Amsterdam for the first time in decades. The hosts revisit the theory that the "Norway Spiral" was a HAARP-related event that altered the exosphere. They also critique a BBC weather segment that uses a football analogy to explain why a cold snap does not disprove long-term global warming.

Keywords: [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [haarp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haarp.md), [norway spiral](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway-spiral.md), [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Google Energy, Smart Grids, and the Nexus One Phone (1:39:20–1:41:48)

Google has applied for authorization to buy and sell wholesale energy, leading to speculation that they intend to become a major player in the "smart grid" market. The hosts compare this move to the business model of Enron. Additionally, the new Google Nexus One (HTC) phone is reviewed, with the hosts noting its slippery design and lack of dual-touch capabilities.

Keywords: [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [nexus one](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nexus-one.md), [htc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/htc.md), [smart grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smart-grid.md), [enron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/enron.md), [energy trading](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-trading.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Gaffer's Tape, Radio Streams, and PR Credits (1:41:48–1:45:05)

The hosts discuss the physical limitations of the Nexus One phone, noting that even gaffer's tape fails to make the device less slippery. They encourage listeners to petition manufacturers of internet-connected devices, like Sony's new alarm clocks, to include the No Agenda radio stream. Listeners who successfully plug the show on mainstream media outlets are promised "PR credits" in the show's hierarchy.

Keywords: gaffer's tape, [sony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sony.md), [internet radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-radio.md), [public relations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-relations.md), [howard stern](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howard-stern.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Betty Confidential, Macho Stereotypes, and Annoying Women (1:45:07–1:49:32)

A list from BettyConfidential.com regarding how men annoy women is discussed, covering topics from "cheapness" to leaving the toilet seat up. The hosts debate the merits of chivalry versus equality in household habits, such as closing the toilet lid entirely. The segment serves as a lighthearted look at gender stereotypes and the "macho" behaviors that frequently cause friction in relationships.

Keywords: betty confidential, [stereotypes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stereotypes.md), [relationships](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/relationships.md), [humor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/humor.md), [gender roles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-roles.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Mariette Hamer, Jobs Jingle, and Chlorine Poultry (1:49:34–1:51:00)

The "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs" jingle is expanded to include Mariette Hamer from the Netherlands, who uses the Dutch word "Verek." The hosts analyze the cadence of politicians using the word "jobs" in threes or fours. Additionally, Russia's ban on U.S. poultry due to the use of chlorine washes is discussed as a potential political move disguised as a health concern.

Keywords: mariette hamer, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [jobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [chlorine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chlorine.md), [poultry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poultry.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Obama's First Veto, Memorandum of Disapproval, and Constitutional Tricks (1:51:01–1:55:39)

President Obama exercised his first veto on a military spending bill, but did so using a confusing "memorandum of disapproval." Legal scholars in the Huffington Post suggest this maneuver mimics controversial Bush-era practices and creates a "constitutional can of worms." The hosts struggle to find a clear analysis of whether the veto was a technicality or a strategic move to protect specific provisions like the Patriot Act.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [veto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veto.md), pocket veto, memorandum of disapproval, [huffington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huffington-post.md), [patriot act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patriot-act.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/42.md)

### 43. C-SPAN Healthcare Promises and the Tea Party Movement (1:55:40–2:00:40)

A montage of clips shows candidate Barack Obama repeatedly promising that healthcare negotiations would be broadcast live on C-SPAN for full transparency. The hosts contrast these promises with the reality of closed-door negotiations once in office. They also discuss the growth of the Tea Party movement as a reaction to this perceived lack of accountability and the "slumbering" state of the general public.

Keywords: [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [healthcare reform](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare-reform.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [tea party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tea-party.md), [transparency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transparency.md), [campaign promises](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campaign-promises.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/43.md)

### 44. American Optimism, European Impasse, and Outro (2:00:40–2:03:36)

Adam Curry expresses optimism for the United States, suggesting that citizens can reclaim the government through local election involvement. John C. Dvorak remains more skeptical, citing the "clamps" being put down in places like Australia and Europe. The show concludes with a reminder of the donation links and a sign-off from the "Crackpot Command Center" and the "Buzzkill Bunker."

Keywords: [optimism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/optimism.md), civil involvement, [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/164-waterboarding-for-everyone/chapter/44.md)

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