# 30 Taliban Killed > A deep dive into the outsourcing of American intelligence to India and the suspicious recurring casualty figures appearing in official military press releases. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 162 - **Published:** 2010-01-03 - **Length:** 1h 48m - **Topics:** RAW Intelligence, [Monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [Codex Alimentarius](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/codex-alimentarius.md), [Blackwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackwater.md), [Avatar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/avatar.md), [Mayo Clinic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mayo-clinic.md), Apophis - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed ## About this episode The Obama administration faces allegations of outsourcing critical intelligence operations to India's Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) following security failures during the Detroit crotch-bomber incident. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the influence of Indian American appointees like Vivek Kundra and the strategic elevation of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. The hosts suggest this shift reflects a deepening rift between the White House and the CIA, potentially leading to high-profile political assassinations framed as accidents. Military press releases from NATO and US forces consistently report exactly 30 militants killed in strikes across Yemen, Iraq, and Afghanistan, sparking theories of statistical fabrication or coded messaging. In the private sector, Forbes Magazine names Monsanto its Company of the Year despite global seed market controversies, while the Mayo Clinic begins rejecting Medicare patients in Arizona due to low reimbursement rates. James Cameron’s Avatar is scrutinized as a tool for subliminal programming, and the United Nations initiative Codex Alimentarius moves toward restricting home-canned goods and raw milk standards in Wisconsin. John C. Dvorak recounts a rainy New Year’s Eve in Bodega Bay involving a group of British tourists and a tech-industry connection to Leo Laporte. The episode features a $250 executive producer credit for Kevin Liang and a recurring joke about the Queen of England’s secret control over Canadian sovereignty. Adam Curry critiques the ethics of TSA blogger intimidation while defending the show’s value-for-value model against corporate sponsorship. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/transcript.md. ### 1. No Agenda Episode 162, New Year Introduction (0:01–1:07) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 162 of the No Agenda show on January 3, 2010. Operating from the Crackpot Command Center in San Francisco, the hosts exchange New Year greetings and introduce the "media assassination" theme for the upcoming year. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/1.md) ### 2. New Year Celebrations, Bodega Bay Fireworks (1:07–5:50) John C. Dvorak describes his New Year's trip to Bodega Bay, noting the poor weather and a chance encounter with a group of British celebrants in a hotel lobby. The anecdote includes a mention of a mutual acquaintance in Petaluma, identified as tech personality Leo Laporte, and a description of new cube-shaped pyrotechnics seen over San Francisco. Keywords: bodega bay, [petaluma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/petaluma.md), [fireworks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fireworks.md), [leo laporte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leo-laporte.md), brits [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Enterprise Rent-A-Car, Tahoe Gas Guzzler (5:50–7:32) The hosts debate the merits of Enterprise Rent-A-Car, with one praising the Folsom Street location and the other complaining about onerous inspections. The discussion shifts to the logistics of driving a large Chevrolet Tahoe in San Francisco and a brief mention of Molly Wood using a private parking spot. Keywords: enterprise rent-a-car, folsom street, chevy tahoe, [molly wood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/molly-wood.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Codex Alimentarius, UN Food Regulations (7:33–11:47) The United Nations initiative Codex Alimentarius is highlighted as it becomes integrated into international and domestic law. Reports from Wisconsin suggest new restrictions on home-canned goods and honey standards, while the USDA holds meetings regarding the regulation of raw milk and dairy products. Keywords: [codex alimentarius](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/codex-alimentarius.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [wisconsin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wisconsin.md), [usda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usda.md), [raw milk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raw-milk.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Blackwater Lawsuit, CIA Informant Attack (11:48–13:16) A judge's dismissal of charges against Blackwater guards involved in a 2007 Iraqi shooting sparks civil suits and international outrage. Simultaneously, reports emerge of a double-agent informant killing eight CIA agents at a secure compound in Afghanistan, following allegations of CIA misconduct involving Afghan teenagers. Keywords: [blackwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackwater.md), [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [khost](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/khost.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Military Propaganda, The Number 30 Code (13:17–16:03) An analysis of military press releases reveals a recurring pattern where exactly 30 militants are reported killed in various NATO and US strikes across Afghanistan, Iraq, and Yemen. The hosts suggest this consistent figure represents a "Ministry of Truth" statistical fabrication or a coded message rather than accurate casualty reporting. Keywords: [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [taliban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taliban.md), [yemen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yemen.md), [ministry of truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ministry-of-truth.md), security crank [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Avatar Movie, 3D Mind Control (16:04–20:32) James Cameron's film Avatar reaches $1 billion in global box office receipts within two weeks, prompting theories about subliminal programming and the physiological effects of polarized 3D glasses. The hosts compare the film's "hokey" storyline unfavorably to the Pixar movie WALL-E and note its high praise from liberal commentators. Keywords: [james cameron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-cameron.md), [avatar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/avatar.md), [3d movies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/3d-movies.md), [mind control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mind-control.md), wall-e [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Men Who Stare at Goats, PsyOps History (20:32–24:06) The film "The Men Who Stare at Goats" is discussed as a dramatization of real-world US military PsyOps and the MK Ultra project. The conversation covers historical claims of "Jedi warriors" attempting to stop hearts with their minds and the use of the Barney the Dinosaur theme song as an interrogation tool for enemy combatants. Keywords: [george clooney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-clooney.md), [psyops](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psyops.md), [mk ultra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mk-ultra.md), barney the dinosaur, [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Military Outsourcing, Blackwater Logistics (24:07–26:34) Reports from military contacts suggest West Point has shifted focus from combat tactics to logistics, effectively outsourcing front-line fighting to private contractors like Blackwater. This "accounting trick" allows the government to report lower troop casualties while maintaining a massive mercenary presence, echoing Smedley Butler's "War is a Racket" thesis. Keywords: [west point](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/west-point.md), [marines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marines.md), [blackwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackwater.md), [smedley butler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smedley-butler.md), [war is a racket](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war-is-a-racket.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Monsanto, Forbes Company of the Year (26:36–28:06) Forbes Magazine names Monsanto its "Company of the Year," a move the hosts criticize given the company's controversial dominance in the global seed market. The segment links this corporate accolade to other "Man of the Year" designations for figures like Ben Bernanke and Vivek Kundra. Keywords: [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [forbes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/forbes.md), [ben bernanke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-bernanke.md), [vivek kundra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vivek-kundra.md), seed genes [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Sociology Textbooks, Population Control (28:06–31:12) A 17-year-old listener from Saginaw, Michigan, provides a PDF of his sociology textbook which presents Chinese-style population control as a necessary global measure. The student reports being labeled "radical" by his teacher for questioning the ethics of government-mandated child limits. Keywords: [saginaw](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saginaw.md), [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [sociology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sociology.md), [population control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/population-control.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Executive Producer Kevin Liang (31:12–32:17) Kevin Liang of Richmond, British Columbia, is credited as the Executive Producer for Episode 162 following a $250 donation. The hosts encourage him to list the title on his professional resume and offer to act as references. Keywords: kevin liang, [richmond](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richmond.md), [british columbia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/british-columbia.md), [donation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Irish Blasphemy Law, European Union Islamization (32:18–34:53) A new law in Ireland makes blasphemy a crime punishable by 25,000 euros, effective January 1, 2010. The hosts speculate that this legislation is a response to growing Islamic influence in Europe and may eventually be adopted as a general law by the European Union authorities in Brussels. Keywords: [ireland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ireland.md), blasphemy law, [denmark](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denmark.md), [brussels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brussels.md), [muslims](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/muslims.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Obama vs CIA, Ray McGovern Analysis (34:54–38:18) Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern publishes an article detailing the historical friction between US Presidents and the CIA. The discussion explores President Obama's alleged fear of the agency, referencing the "Seven Dwarfs" letter sent to Leon Panetta and the agency's long history of autonomy dating back to Allen Dulles. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [ray mcgovern](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ray-mcgovern.md), [leon panetta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leon-panetta.md), allen dulles [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Indian Intelligence, RAW Outsourcing Theory (38:19–44:32) A theory is proposed that the Obama administration is outsourcing intelligence operations to India's Research and Analysis Wing (RAW). The hosts examine the presence of an Indian "handler" in the Detroit "crotch bomber" incident and suggest Hillary Clinton's long-standing ties to Indian firms facilitate this shift away from traditional CIA reliance. Keywords: raw, [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [crotch bomber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crotch-bomber.md), [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Political Assassination Predictions, Security Breaches (44:34–48:58) Following security breaches during President Obama's Hawaii vacation, the hosts predict a high-profile "accidental" death of a US official within the next few months. Potential targets mentioned include Hillary Clinton or Rahm Emanuel, framed as a "message" in the ongoing war between the administration and the intelligence community. Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [rahm emanuel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rahm-emanuel.md), [hawaii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hawaii.md), [secret service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secret-service.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Indian Americans, Obama Administration Appointments (48:59–52:15) The hosts list numerous Indian Americans appointed to high-level positions within the Obama administration, including Vivek Kundra and the head of DARPA. They contrast the high-profile state dinner for Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh with the relative snubbing of other world leaders. Keywords: [vivek kundra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vivek-kundra.md), aarti rai, [darpa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darpa.md), [state dinner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-dinner.md), [manmohan singh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manmohan-singh.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/17.md) ### 18. CIA Drug Running, Global Bank Bailouts (52:16–55:51) The discussion turns to allegations that the CIA manages global drug trafficking to fund covert operations. A United Nations report is cited claiming $350 billion in drug proceeds helped keep the global banking system afloat during the 2008 financial crisis, with the hosts comparing how different presidents have managed this relationship. Keywords: [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [drug money](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-money.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [george w. bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-w-bush.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Canadian Parliament Suspension, CBC News (55:52–58:04) Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper suspends Parliament until March 3, a move that receives little coverage in US media. The hosts praise the quality of CBC's "The National" and question why Canadian news is not more widely available on American television networks. Keywords: [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [stephen harper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-harper.md), [cbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbc.md), [globe and mail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/globe-and-mail.md), [parliament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parliament.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Rapiscan Systems, Deepak Chopra Connection (58:04–1:00:35) The hosts investigate Rapiscan Systems, a provider of airport body scanners, noting that a man named Deepak Chopra is the founder of the parent company, OSI Systems. They attempt to verify if this individual is related to the New Age author or the US Chief Technology Officer, Anish Chopra. Keywords: [rapiscan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rapiscan.md), [deepak chopra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deepak-chopra.md), [anish chopra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anish-chopra.md), [millimeter wave](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/millimeter-wave.md), [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Indian Mafia, Bollywood and Gold (1:00:37–1:03:13) The influence of the Indian Mafia on Bollywood and the international gold trade is explored. The hosts suggest that organized crime in India has a formidable but underreported impact on global finance and the entertainment industry, potentially influencing the success of films like "Slumdog Millionaire." Keywords: [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [mafia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mafia.md), [bollywood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bollywood.md), gold trading, [mumbai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mumbai.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/21.md) ### 22. JFK and Bay of Pigs, Canadian Sovereignty (1:03:15–1:04:53) A brief look back at the Bay of Pigs invasion suggests Allen Dulles intentionally trapped President Kennedy into the conflict. The segment ends with a recurring joke about the Queen of England's ultimate control over Canada and the Commonwealth. Keywords: [jfk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jfk.md), [bay of pigs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bay-of-pigs.md), allen dulles, [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [queen of england](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queen-of-england.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Peter Spencer, Kyoto Protocol Hunger Strike (1:04:56–1:09:45) Australian farmer Peter Spencer engages in a high-altitude hunger strike to protest environmental laws that prevent him from using his land. Spencer claims the Kyoto Protocol-inspired native vegetation laws have effectively "stolen" his property value without compensation, leading to imminent foreclosure by his bank. Keywords: peter spencer, [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [kyoto protocol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kyoto-protocol.md), carbon sinks, [property rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/property-rights.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Value-for-Value Donations, Floppy Mac Out (1:09:47–1:14:48) The hosts read a list of recent donors, including "palindrome" contributions and international supporters from Norway and Canada. They also plug "Floppy Mac Out," an Apple-centric podcast, in exchange for a donation, while discussing the difficulty of pronouncing various international surnames. Keywords: [paypal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paypal.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), stittsville, bergen, floppy mac out [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Sponsorship vs Donations, No Agenda Business Model (1:14:49–1:20:34) The hosts defend their "Value-for-Value" model against listener criticism, arguing that traditional corporate sponsorship would compromise their ability to criticize companies like Monsanto or Enterprise. They emphasize that the show is a commercial venture and would cease to exist without direct financial support from the audience. Keywords: [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), enterprise, [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [capitalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capitalism.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/25.md) ### 26. TSA Blogger Intimidation, Street Performance Ethics (1:20:35–1:26:47) The TSA is criticized for allegedly intimidating bloggers who published a public domain security memo. This leads to a discussion on the ethics of "performing" for money, with John C. Dvorak sharing anecdotes about street singers in San Francisco and joke-tellers in New York City. Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [bloggers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloggers.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [susan boyle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/susan-boyle.md), [performance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/performance.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Asteroid Apophis, NASA Disinformation (1:26:47–1:30:20) Russian scientists warn that the asteroid Apophis could strike Earth sooner than NASA's 2030s prediction. The hosts suggest NASA is being untruthful about the threat and argue that government resources should be redirected from global warming initiatives toward planetary defense against near-Earth objects. Keywords: apophis, [asteroid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/asteroid.md), [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [global cooling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-cooling.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Mayo Clinic, Medicare Rejection (1:30:20–1:31:59) The Mayo Clinic announces it will stop accepting Medicare patients at its primary care clinics in Arizona due to low government reimbursement rates. This development is framed as a failure of the national healthcare model praised by the Obama administration and a sign of future cuts to senior care. Keywords: [mayo clinic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mayo-clinic.md), [medicare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicare.md), [arizona](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arizona.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [health care](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-care.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Show Wrap-Up, Missing Obama Clip (1:32:03–1:35:23) The hosts summarize the day's "nugget"—the theory regarding India's RAW intelligence agency—and mention a missing audio clip of Barack Obama promising to end the Iraq war. They address the live chat room participants before transitioning to the end-of-show montage. Keywords: [iraq war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq-war.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), raw theory, [chat room](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chat-room.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/162-30-taliban-killed/chapter/29.md) ### 30. 2010 Resolutions, Year-End Audio Montage (1:35:25–1:48:21) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off with New Year resolutions and a reflection on the "miserable" previous decade of stock market performance. The episode concludes with an extensive audio montage featuring political gaffes, news clips, and a parody of the "Goodfellas" introduction. 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