# Lazinsky

> A coordinated media narrative shifts focus toward Ukrainian sabotage while domestic election offices face fentanyl threats and the Vatican purges a prominent conservative critic.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1607
- **Published:** 2023-11-12
- **Length:** 3h 17m
- **Topics:** [Nord Stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nord-stream.md), Roman Chervinsky, [Lindsey Graham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lindsey-graham.md), Jew hate, Bishop Strickland, Fentanyl letters, Sedition Hunters
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky

## About this episode

Ukrainian Colonel Roman Chervinsky coordinated the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage using a small team on a sailboat, according to a joint investigation by The Washington Post and Der Spiegel. This sudden media consensus regarding the logistics of the blast suggests a pivot in Western support for the Ukraine conflict. Meanwhile, Polish truckers have blockaded border crossings to protest EU permit waivers for Ukrainian transport companies, signaling deep economic friction within the alliance.

Senator Lindsey Graham proposed a bipartisan resolution to bomb Iran if Hezbollah opens a second front against Israel, while French President Emmanuel Macron broke ranks to demand a ceasefire in Gaza. Domestically, authorities are investigating fentanyl-laced letters sent to election offices in five states, featuring symbols linked to Antifa and trans rights activism. In the media sphere, ABC, NBC, and CBS have intensified dramatized reporting on the Al-Shifa hospital crisis, while CNN’s Dana Bash signaled a linguistic shift from the term anti-Semitism to Jew hate. Pope Francis also made headlines by removing conservative critic Bishop Joseph Strickland from his post in Tyler, Texas.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the failure of corporate podcast networks and the rise of activist journalism at the Philadelphia Inquirer. The duo examines the marketing psychology behind the Stop Genocide Joe slogan and the multi-million dollar organizations funding pro-Palestinian rallies. The episode concludes with a review of the disappointing Frasier reboot and a look at how AI protections are reshaping the new SAG-AFTRA contract.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/transcript.md.

### 1. Veterans Day Tributes and Iraq War Reflections (0:00–1:51)

The hosts open Episode 1707 of No Agenda from the Texas Hill Country and Northern Silicon Valley, acknowledging Veterans Day. Reflections are shared regarding the physical and mental scarring of veterans, specifically referencing a ten-day trip to Iraq in 2003. A brief discussion follows regarding the decline of poppy-wearing traditions in California.

Keywords: [veterans day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veterans-day.md), [iraq war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq-war.md), [texas hill country](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas-hill-country.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), poppy state, [fema region 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema-region-6.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/1.md)

### 2. ABC News Coverage of Gaza Hospital Bombings (1:52–6:32)

The 3x3 media comparison begins with ABC News' reporting on Israeli military operations near Gaza's main hospitals. The segment highlights the use of dramatic sound effects and the characterization of Secretary of State Antony Blinken's comments as the strongest criticism of Israel to date. The reporting focuses on the Al-Shifa hospital and the displacement of thousands of Palestinians.

Keywords: [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md), [al-shifa hospital](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-shifa-hospital.md), [antony blinken](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antony-blinken.md), [hamas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamas.md), lindsay reiser

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/2.md)

### 3. NBC News Reporting on Gaza Humanitarian Pauses (6:33–9:52)

NBC News takes second place in the 3x3 analysis for its coverage of fireballs near the Indonesian hospital and alleged command centers under Al-Shifa. The report features a British correspondent and addresses the White House's announcement of humanitarian pauses. Discussion centers on the linguistic choices used to describe Palestinian militant groups and the stalled negotiations for hostage releases.

Keywords: [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), indonesian hospital, [al-shifa hospital](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-shifa-hospital.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [hamas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hamas.md), humanitarian pauses

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/3.md)

### 4. CBS News Dramatization of Gaza Medical Crisis (9:54–16:09)

CBS News is awarded first place in the 3x3 for what is described as a highly dramatized and traumatizing report featuring screaming audio and emotional translations. The coverage details the "blood-soaked battleground" of Gaza's medical facilities and the Red Cross's warning that the health system has reached a point of no return. The hosts argue these reports are designed to condition audiences for pharmaceutical advertising.

Keywords: [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [al-shifa hospital](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-shifa-hospital.md), [antony blinken](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antony-blinken.md), [nora o'donnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nora-o-donnell.md), [red cross](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-cross.md), gaza health system

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Lindsey Graham Proposes Bombing Iran (16:10–21:43)

Senator Lindsey Graham appears on CNN's State of the Union, asserting that the population of Gaza is highly radicalized and taught to hate from birth. Graham announces a bipartisan Senate resolution targeting Iran, suggesting that the U.S. should bomb the Islamic Republic if Hezbollah opens a second front against Israel. He characterizes Iran as the "Great Satan" of the region.

Keywords: [lindsey graham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lindsey-graham.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [dana bash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dana-bash.md), [hezbollah](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hezbollah.md), [iron dome](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iron-dome.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Emmanuel Macron Calls for Gaza Ceasefire (21:43–24:59)

French President Emmanuel Macron speaks to the BBC, urging Israel to stop the bombing of "babies and ladies" in Gaza. While acknowledging Israel's right to defend itself, Macron calls for a humanitarian ceasefire and emphasizes the importance of international law. The hosts note the lack of similar calls for a ceasefire in the Ukraine conflict.

Keywords: [emmanuel macron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emmanuel-macron.md), [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md), [ceasefire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ceasefire.md), [international law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/international-law.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Abby Martin and the Human Shield Narrative (25:00–30:56)

Journalist Abby Martin argues that the term "human shield" is a racist trope used by the "Empire" to justify mass slaughter in Gaza, Libya, and Iraq. The hosts dispute her claims regarding the density of Gaza compared to cities like San Francisco and Manhattan. They also review historical uses of the human shield narrative, including a 2022 report on ISIS detainees in Syria.

Keywords: [abby martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abby-martin.md), [human shields](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-shields.md), [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md), [libya](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libya.md), [iraq war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq-war.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Stop Genocide Joe Protest Slogans (30:57–33:17)

The emergence of the "Stop Genocide Joe" slogan among pro-Palestinian protesters is discussed. The hosts speculate that the moniker may have been introduced by intelligence agencies to undermine President Biden's re-election efforts. They comment on the visual elements of the protests, including the use of keffiyehs and the disappearance of "pussy hats" from previous activist movements.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [genocide joe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/genocide-joe.md), [keffiyeh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keffiyeh.md), [washington dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-dc.md), [protests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/protests.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Marxist Organizations Behind Pro-Palestinian Rallies (33:17–37:29)

Investigative journalist Asra Nomani reports on NTD News about the multi-million dollar orchestrated campaign behind U.S. pro-Palestinian protests. She identifies the Party for Socialism and Liberation and the Workers World Party as key organizers. The hosts discuss the long history of these communist organizations in American activism and their use of "long tail" web strategies.

Keywords: [asra nomani](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/asra-nomani.md), [ntd news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ntd-news.md), workers world party, socialism and liberation, [marxism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marxism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Marketing Psychology and the Use of Jingles (37:30–42:20)

A discussion on marketing tactics explores why humor and jingles are effective in political and commercial campaigns. References are made to advertising legend Jay Chiat and the agency Chiat/Day, as well as Stan Freberg's use of humor in ads. The hosts compare political protest chants to marketing jingles, noting their tribal and simplistic nature.

Keywords: jay chiat, stan freberg, [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), [biden-harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biden-harris.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Dana Bash and the Term Jew Hate (42:20–46:26)

CNN's Dana Bash suggests that experts are moving away from the term "anti-Semitism" in favor of "Jew hate" to describe current hostilities. The hosts view this linguistic shift as part of a broader effort by "dark powers" and political parties to force division. They compare the current social climate to previous polarizations over masks, vaccines, and Donald Trump.

Keywords: [dana bash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dana-bash.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [anti-semitism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anti-semitism.md), jew hate, [lindsey graham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lindsey-graham.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Nord Stream Sabotage and Ukrainian Colonel Roman Chervinsky (46:27–51:24)

The Washington Post and Der Spiegel release a joint investigation identifying Ukrainian Colonel Roman Chervinsky as the coordinator of the Nord Stream pipeline bombing. The report claims Chervinsky managed logistics for a team that used a sailboat to plant explosives. The hosts interpret this sudden media consensus as a signal that the West is preparing to end support for the Ukraine war.

Keywords: [nord stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nord-stream.md), roman chervinsky, [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), [der spiegel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/der-spiegel.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Polish Truckers Blockade Ukrainian Border (51:26–54:50)

Polish truck drivers block border crossings with Ukraine to protest unfair competition resulting from the EU waiving permit requirements for Ukrainian transport companies. Thousands of trucks are reportedly stranded with wait times up to six days. The hosts suggest this friction indicates a growing fatigue in Poland regarding the war and its economic impact.

Keywords: [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [trucking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trucking.md), border blockade

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Amnesty International Criticizes Western Double Standards (54:49–56:21)

Amnesty International's Secretary-General, Agnès Callamard, accuses Western governments of maintaining a double standard by condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine while failing to act on the suffering in Gaza. Speaking at the Paris Peace Forum, she argues this inconsistency poses a significant threat to the global human rights framework.

Keywords: [amnesty international](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amnesty-international.md), agnès callamard, [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [gaza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaza.md), [human rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Fentanyl-Laced Letters Sent to Election Offices (56:24–1:02:42)

Authorities investigate letters containing suspicious white powder, some testing positive for fentanyl, sent to election offices in five states including Georgia and Washington. The letters reportedly featured symbols associated with Antifa, trans rights, and Satanism. The hosts criticize mainstream media for failing to describe these symbols while reporting on the "threat to democracy."

Keywords: [fentanyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fentanyl.md), election offices, [georgia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/georgia.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [antifa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antifa.md), brennan center

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Transgender Mass Shooting Plot in Colorado (1:02:42–1:06:00)

Lily Whitworth, a transgender individual in Colorado Springs, pleads guilty to second-degree assault after threatening mass shootings at schools and churches. The plot was uncovered after Whitworth's sister alerted authorities to a manifesto detailing the plans. The hosts discuss the lack of national media coverage for this incident compared to other high-profile threats.

Keywords: lily whitworth, [colorado springs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado-springs.md), [mass shooting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mass-shooting.md), [manifesto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manifesto.md), district 20

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Pope Francis Removes Bishop Joseph Strickland (1:06:02–1:09:23)

Pope Francis takes the rare step of removing Bishop Joseph Strickland of Tyler, Texas, from his position. Strickland, a prominent conservative critic of the Pope, had questioned the Vatican's approach to LGBTQ issues and the role of women in the church. The hosts discuss the implications of this "relieving of duty" for traditionalist Catholics.

Keywords: [pope francis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pope-francis.md), joseph strickland, tyler texas, [vatican](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vatican.md), [catholic church](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catholic-church.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Brad Raffensperger on Election Mail Security (1:09:25–1:11:48)

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger discusses the interception of a suspicious letter intended for the Fulton County Election Office. He explains how postal officials use barcodes to track and intercept hazardous mail in transit. The segment touches on the broader concerns regarding the safety of election workers following recent fentanyl-related threats.

Keywords: [brad raffensperger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brad-raffensperger.md), [georgia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/georgia.md), [fulton county](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fulton-county.md), [usps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usps.md), [fentanyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fentanyl.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/18.md)

### 19. USAA Fentanyl Contamination Insurance Dispute (1:11:48–1:15:50)

A family in Colorado Springs discovers their stolen Jeep was listed on an auction site as a biohazard after USAA deemed it a total loss due to fentanyl contamination. The insurance company initially claimed the vehicle would not be sold, but the family found it online with "fentanyl" written on the windshield. The hosts discuss the rising prevalence of fentanyl-related property losses.

Keywords: usaa, [fentanyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fentanyl.md), [colorado springs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado-springs.md), [insurance fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance-fraud.md), [biohazard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biohazard.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Philadelphia Inquirer Calls for Activist Journalism (1:15:51–1:19:24)

An article by Will Bunch in the Philadelphia Inquirer argues that the news media is a threat to democracy by using "cowardly words" to describe political developments. The piece suggests that journalists should abandon traditional objectivity in favor of activism to combat perceived fascism. The hosts criticize this call for overt propaganda in mainstream reporting.

Keywords: philadelphia inquirer, will bunch, [mike johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-johnson.md), [democracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Donald Trump Univision Interview and Retribution Claims (1:19:25–1:21:57)

Donald Trump sits for an interview with Univision, where he suggests that the "genie is out of the box" regarding the weaponization of the Justice Department. He implies that if re-elected, he could use the FBI to target political opponents as a response to his own indictments. The hosts note the media's reaction to the perceived "softball" nature of the interview.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [univision](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/univision.md), enrique acevedo, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [justice department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justice-department.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/21.md)

### 22. NPR's On the Media and Podcasting History (1:21:57–1:24:20)

The hosts critique an episode of NPR's "On the Media" for allegedly rewriting the history of podcasting. They discuss the financial struggles of public radio podcasting and the resentment felt toward independent personalities like Joe Rogan and Dan Bongino. Adam Curry recalls his own past appearance on the program during the early days of the medium.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [on the media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/on-the-media.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [dan bongino](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-bongino.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Dan Froomekin and the Nut Graph Concept (1:24:21–1:29:42)

Media critic Dan Froomekin argues that elite journalists lack the vocabulary to accurately cover Donald Trump, failing to label him as "delusional" or a "would-be dictator." The discussion introduces the "nut graph"—the summary paragraph of a news story—and how activists believe it is being misused to provide false balance to Trump's rhetoric.

Keywords: dan froomekin, press watch, nut graph, [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Media Coverage of Trump's Courtroom Behavior (1:29:43–1:36:47)

Critics on NPR argue that mainstream media reports sanitize Donald Trump's "unhinged" behavior in court by summarizing his actions into neutral sentences. The segment features calls for editors to "reset" their approach to informing the American electorate, with the hosts interpreting this as a demand for more aggressive anti-Trump propaganda.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), margaret sullivan, [jay rosen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-rosen.md), court trial

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Elise Stefanik Files Ethics Complaint Against Judge Engoron (1:37:08–1:39:33)

Congresswoman Elise Stefanik files a judicial ethics complaint against Judge Arthur Engoron, presiding over Donald Trump's fraud trial in New York. She alleges "bizarre behavior" and bias, citing the judge's valuation of Mar-a-Lago at $18 million and his gag orders against Trump's legal team. The hosts contrast this report with the earlier NPR analysis of the trial.

Keywords: [elise stefanik](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elise-stefanik.md), [arthur engoron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arthur-engoron.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md), judicial ethics

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/25.md)

### 26. MSNBC and the Sedition Hunters (1:39:35–1:44:16)

MSNBC's Ali Velshi reports on "Sedition Hunters," an online group assisting the FBI in identifying January 6th participants. The report highlights the arrest of Gregory Yetman and criticizes Donald Trump for posting memes of the U.S. Capitol on fire. The hosts mock the term "Sedition Hunters" and discuss the nature of political memes.

Keywords: [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), ali velshi, sedition hunters, gregory yetman, [capitol riot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capitol-riot.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Jordan Peterson and the Principle of Subsidiarity (1:44:17–1:48:58)

The hosts deconstruct Jordan Peterson's recent comments on the principle of subsidiarity and personal responsibility. They reference a critique by "Polly" regarding Peterson's health struggles in Russia and his transition to The Daily Wire. The discussion touches on Peterson's "Joker-like" fashion choices and his perceived loss of objectivity since joining a major media network.

Keywords: [jordan peterson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jordan-peterson.md), subsidiarity, [daily wire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-wire.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/27.md)

### 28. The Co-opting of Alternative Media Figures (1:48:59–1:55:14)

A broader discussion ensues regarding alternative media figures like Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, and Glenn Greenwald being "sucked into the hole" of corporate structures or paywalled platforms like Locals. The hosts argue that joining these "clubs" leads to a loss of the independent spirit that originally defined their work, contrasting it with the No Agenda value-for-value model.

Keywords: [dave rubin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dave-rubin.md), [candace owens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/candace-owens.md), [glenn greenwald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-greenwald.md), [matt taibbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-taibbi.md), [substack](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/substack.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/28.md)

### 29. The Failure of Podcast Networks and DOS in a Can (1:55:15–1:57:45)

John Dvorak shares an anecdote about a failed product called "DOS in a Can" to illustrate why creators often complain about marketing support. The hosts apply this lesson to the failure of podcast networks like Mevio and Spotify's billion-dollar investment, arguing that the network model is fundamentally incompatible with the medium's strengths.

Keywords: [neil rubenking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-rubenking.md), [mcgraw-hill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mcgraw-hill.md), [mevio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mevio.md), [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), podcast networks

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/29.md)

### 30. CDC Director Mandy Cohen Promotes Updated Vaccines (1:57:46–2:02:03)

CDC Director Dr. Mandy Cohen issues a holiday message urging Americans to get updated COVID-19, flu, and RSV vaccines before Thanksgiving. The hosts compare the "updated" vaccine marketing to software updates for Windows or iPhones. They also play an older clip of Keith Olbermann aggressively criticizing those who are "vaccine hesitant."

Keywords: [mandy cohen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mandy-cohen.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [flu vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu-vaccine.md), [rsv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rsv.md), [thanksgiving](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thanksgiving.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/30.md)

### 31. RSV Vaccine Marketing and Discrepant Death Statistics (2:02:03–2:10:01)

The hosts analyze a CBS News report on the "unprecedented demand" for RSV antibody shots, characterizing it as a "native ad" designed to create scarcity. They highlight a massive discrepancy in death statistics: the CDC reports 100-300 annual child deaths from RSV, while the Gates Foundation and CNN claim over 100,000. They suggest financial interests are driving the hype.

Keywords: [rsv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rsv.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [bill and melinda gates foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), antibody shot

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Planned Parenthood Links Infant Mortality to Roe v. Wade (2:10:01–2:16:49)

Planned Parenthood executives in Wisconsin suggest that the overturning of Roe v. Wade is responsible for rising maternal and infant mortality rates. The hosts argue that this narrative ignores potential impacts from COVID-19 vaccinations on reproductive health. They criticize the "evil" logic of claiming that fewer abortions lead to higher mortality.

Keywords: [planned parenthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/planned-parenthood.md), [roe v. wade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roe-v-wade.md), infant mortality, [wisconsin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wisconsin.md), [covid-19 vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19-vaccine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/32.md)

### 33. AI Executive Orders and Google Bard Errors (2:16:50–2:21:08)

Following Joe Biden's executive order on AI, Sam Altman announces an OpenAI app store. The hosts argue that the "guardrails" requested by tech leaders are actually anti-competitive measures. They also highlight a case where Australian academics used Google Bard for a parliamentary inquiry, only for the AI to generate completely false allegations against consulting firms.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [sam altman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-altman.md), [openai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/openai.md), [google bard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-bard.md), [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/33.md)

### 34. SAG-AFTRA Contract Deal and AI Protections (2:21:10–2:22:54)

The SAG-AFTRA board approves a new three-year contract with Hollywood studios, ending a historic strike. The deal includes a $1 billion valuation, minimum wage increases, and specific protections against the unauthorized use of digital replicas created by AI. The hosts comment on the economic impact of the strike on the broader industry.

Keywords: [sag-aftra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sag-aftra.md), [hollywood strike](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollywood-strike.md), [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [streaming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/streaming.md), [fran drescher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fran-drescher.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Biden Administration Veterans Day Announcements (2:22:54–2:26:00)

The Biden administration announces new benefits for veterans, including expanded no-cost healthcare for World War II survivors and the launch of the V-SAFE task force to combat scams. The segment also covers the issue of veteran suicide and the importance of social connection. The hosts briefly mention Joe Biden's appearance at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [veterans day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veterans-day.md), [world war ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-ii.md), v-safe, [suicide prevention](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suicide-prevention.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/35.md)

### 36. TV Reviews: The Morning Show and New Frasier (2:26:03–2:31:05)

The hosts review recent television releases, expressing disappointment with the "Frasier" reboot on Paramount Plus and the third season of "The Morning Show" on Apple TV+. They criticize the lack of comedic timing in the new Frasier and the "embarrassing" dramatization of COVID and Ukraine in the Morning Show.

Keywords: frasier, [kelsey grammer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kelsey-grammer.md), [the morning show](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-morning-show.md), [apple tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-tv.md), [paramount plus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paramount-plus.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/36.md)

### 37. No Agenda Art Credits and Value-for-Value Model (2:31:05–2:38:10)

The hosts discuss the artwork for the current episode, crediting Nessworks and Sketch Sage for their contributions. They highlight the "Ozempic Plateau" theme and discuss the technical aspects of AI-generated art. Adam Curry also notes that the Pocket Casts app now supports Podcasting 2.0 chapters.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [nessworks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nessworks.md), sketch sage, [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [pocket casts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pocket-casts.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Executive Producer Donations and Knighting Ceremony (2:38:11–2:54:15)

A lengthy segment dedicated to acknowledging high-level donors who contributed $1,000 or more. The hosts perform "de-douching" rituals, grant PhDs in Media Deconstruction, and bestow knighthoods upon producers including Sir Loin of Beef and Baroness Knight. Personal notes from donors regarding healthcare costs and media bias are read aloud.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [phd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/phd.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [round table](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/round-table.md), [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Associate Executive Producers and Sustaining Donors (2:54:18–2:58:37)

The hosts thank associate executive producers and sustaining donors. They mention an upcoming No Agenda meetup in San Francisco and discuss a book recommendation, "The Crowd" by Gustave Le Bon, in the context of mass formation theory. A list of donors contributing $50 or more is read.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), san francisco meetup, [gustave le bon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gustave-le-bon.md), [mass formation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mass-formation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Final Credits and PhD Graduation (2:58:37–3:03:13)

The final graduation ceremony for the "Society of Learned Persons" is held for the episode's PhD recipients. The hosts provide instructions for obtaining No Agenda rings and sealing wax. They reiterate the show's mission to "hit people in the mouth" with media deconstruction.

Keywords: [phd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/phd.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [graduation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/graduation.md), [no agenda rings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-rings.md), correspondence wax

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/40.md)

### 41. No Agenda Meetup Reports and Announcements (3:03:17–3:08:59)

Reports from recent No Agenda meetups in Pensacola and Knoxville are played. The hosts announce a long list of upcoming "Friendsgiving" and monthly meetups across the U.S. and the Netherlands, emphasizing the slogan "Connection is Protection."

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [pensacola](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pensacola.md), [knoxville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knoxville.md), [georgia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/georgia.md), connections protection

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Good News Story and Episode Sign-off (3:09:00–3:17:50)

The show concludes with a "Good News Story" about a rescue dog named Axel who saved his teenage owner from a stroke. The hosts then play an end-of-show mix featuring the "Trump Rotation" of media insults and a deconstruction of "food noise" related to Ozempic. The episode officially signs off with the "Adios Mofo" catchphrase.

Keywords: axel the dog, [stroke recovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stroke-recovery.md), ozempic plateau, [trump rotation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-rotation.md), [sign-off](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sign-off.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1607-lazinsky/chapter/42.md)

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