# Gene Jock

> A diplomatic disaster in Ottawa and revelations of vaccine manufacturing shortcuts collide with a deepening migrant crisis and the rise of celebrity AI avatars.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1594
- **Published:** 2023-09-29
- **Length:** 3h 10m
- **Topics:** Nazi scandal, [DNA contamination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dna-contamination.md), [Border crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/border-crisis.md), [ATACMS](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atacms.md), Meta AI, Gold bribes
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock

## About this episode

The Canadian Parliament faces global condemnation after Speaker Anthony Rota led a standing ovation for Yaroslav Hunka, a 98-year-old veteran of a Nazi Waffen-SS unit, during a visit by President Volodymyr Zelensky. While Rota resigned and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau issued formal apologies to Jewish and Polish communities, the incident has sparked intense debate over historical revisionism and the vetting of foreign guests during high-profile diplomatic summits.

U.S. aid to Ukraine remains under scrutiny as a CBS 60 Minutes report reveals American taxpayer funds are subsidizing small businesses and first responder salaries, even as Ukrainian officials charge 170 government individuals with embezzlement. In the United States, Governor Greg Abbott and Representative Tony Gonzalez report that the border crisis has reached a breaking point, with over 8,600 daily crossings and federal agents being diverted to processing centers. Meanwhile, Dr. Phillip Buckhaults testified before the South Carolina Senate regarding plasmid DNA contamination in Pfizer mRNA vaccines, warning of potential genomic integration. In the tech sector, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg faces criticism after a Senate AI forum revealed that the Llama 2 model could provide instructions for biological threats like anthrax.

Personal tributes marked the broadcast as William Rowland received a knighthood alongside a posthumous damehood for his late wife. Adam Curry clarified his fashion history on Headbangers Ball, denying he ever wore leather pants, while the producer community celebrated the 10th anniversary of Andrew and Hillary Helenius. The segment concluded with a musical tribute to the No Agenda value-for-value model and the latest executive producer credits.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/transcript.md.

### 1. Canadian Parliament Nazi Standing Ovation and Anthony Rota Resignation (0:00–15:45)

The Canadian Parliament faced international backlash after Speaker Anthony Rota invited 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka, a former member of a Nazi Waffen-SS unit, to a speech by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Rota resigned following the incident, while Prime Minister Justin Trudeau issued multiple apologies to Jewish, Polish, and LGBTQ+ communities. Critics noted the irony of Trudeau blaming Russian disinformation for the scandal while the event was broadcast globally.

Keywords: [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), anthony rota, yaroslav hunka, [volodymyr zelensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volodymyr-zelensky.md), [justin trudeau](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justin-trudeau.md), [yom kippur](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yom-kippur.md), [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/1.md)

### 2. US Financial Aid to Ukraine and 60 Minutes Corruption Report (15:45–23:22)

A CBS 60 Minutes report detailed that U.S. aid to Ukraine extends beyond weaponry to include subsidies for small businesses, seeds for farmers, and salaries for 57,000 first responders. While Senator Lindsey Graham defended the spending as a "great deal" for reducing Russian combat power without American casualties, the report highlighted a tenfold increase in reports of aid misuse. Ukrainian officials have reportedly charged 170 government individuals with corruption and embezzlement this year.

Keywords: [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [60 minutes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/60-minutes.md), [lindsey graham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lindsey-graham.md), [usaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usaid.md), [corruption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corruption.md), john mccain street, [military aid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-aid.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Olena Zelenska Foundation and Ukrainian Education Funding (23:23–29:20)

First Lady Olena Zelenska appeared on Face the Nation to fundraise for her foundation, specifically requesting resources for "comfortable bomb shelters" and laptops for Ukrainian students. The appeal drew comparisons to previous high-profile media appearances by the Assads and the Clintons. Questions were raised regarding the shift in narrative from Russian child abductions to children simply living abroad or in frontline areas requiring digital education tools.

Keywords: [olena zelenska](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/olena-zelenska.md), [face the nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/face-the-nation.md), [margaret brennan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/margaret-brennan.md), [bomb shelters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bomb-shelters.md), [ipads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipads.md), [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/3.md)

### 4. ATACMS Missile Systems and Senator Mark Kelly (29:22–31:39)

Senator Mark Kelly confirmed the Biden administration's decision to provide Ukraine with ATACMS (Army Tactical Missile Systems), which have a range of approximately 190 miles. Kelly addressed the long delay in approval, citing the complexity of the systems and concerns over potential escalation. The missiles are intended to allow Ukrainian forces to strike behind Russian lines to maintain counter-offensive progress.

Keywords: [atacms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atacms.md), [mark kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-kelly.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [f-16](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-16.md), [long-range missiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/long-range-missiles.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Ukrainian Soldier Surrenders via Volga Radio Frequency (31:40–33:38)

Reports indicate that approximately 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers have used the designated "Volga" radio frequency (149.200 MHz) to surrender to Russian forces. The soldiers reportedly use inexpensive Baofeng radios to coordinate their surrender. This trend supports claims of low morale and high attrition rates within the Ukrainian military ranks despite official narratives of progress.

Keywords: volga frequency, surrender, [baofeng](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baofeng.md), russian army, [electronic warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electronic-warfare.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Marina Abramovic as Ukrainian Ambassador for Children (33:38–36:02)

Performance artist Marina Abramovic claimed that President Zelensky invited her to be an ambassador for Ukraine to help rebuild schools. The story, originally reported by The Telegraph, was allegedly scrubbed from several mainstream sites but remains archived. Critics pointed to Abramovic's past associations with "spirit cooking" and the Podesta family as evidence of a bizarre or potentially scandalous appointment.

Keywords: [marina abramovic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marina-abramovic.md), [volodymyr zelensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volodymyr-zelensky.md), [spirit cooking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spirit-cooking.md), podesta, [the telegraph](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-telegraph.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Cuban Human Trafficking and Russian Military Recruitment (36:02–41:43)

Cuban authorities announced the dismantling of a human trafficking ring that allegedly coerced Cuban citizens into fighting for Russia in Ukraine. U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan characterized Russia's recruitment efforts in Cuba and North Korea as signs of desperation. Skeptics argued the narrative is part of a broader Western propaganda effort to portray the Russian military as depleted and reliant on high-tech aid from North Korea.

Keywords: [cuba](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cuba.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [human trafficking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-trafficking.md), [mercenaries](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mercenaries.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [jake sullivan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jake-sullivan.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/7.md)

### 8. UN Replacement Migration Paper and Globalist Policy (41:45–45:44)

A 2001 United Nations paper titled "Replacement Migration" outlines strategies for using international migration to offset declining and aging populations in developed nations. The document suggests that maintaining labor forces and social security systems requires the integration of large numbers of migrants. This policy framework is cited as the blueprint for current border situations in the U.S. and Europe, often linked to the "Great Reset" concept.

Keywords: [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [replacement migration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/replacement-migration.md), [great reset](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/great-reset.md), [demographics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demographics.md), [retirement age](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/retirement-age.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Governor Greg Abbott in New York City (45:44–50:00)

Texas Governor Greg Abbott visited New York City to speak at the Manhattan Institute regarding the migrant crisis, noting that Texas has bused nearly 16,000 migrants to the city. Abbott criticized the Biden administration for cutting razor wire installed by the Texas National Guard and argued that enforcing existing laws would solve the border surge. He highlighted that over 8,600 people crossed the border in a single 24-hour period recently.

Keywords: [greg abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-abbott.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [roosevelt hotel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roosevelt-hotel.md), [border crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/border-crisis.md), [razor wire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/razor-wire.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Representative Tony Gonzalez on Border Patrol Operations (50:01–52:58)

Texas Representative Tony Gonzalez reported that Border Patrol agents are being diverted from field duties to staff processing centers, leaving the border vulnerable to "bad actors." Gonzalez advocated for ending "catch and release" policies and implementing "repatriation flights" to return non-asylum seekers to their home countries. He noted that in cities like San Antonio, migrants are being dumped in tourist areas like the Riverwalk.

Keywords: tony gonzalez, [san antonio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-antonio.md), [border patrol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/border-patrol.md), [catch and release](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catch-and-release.md), [alejandro mayorkas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alejandro-mayorkas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/10.md)

### 11. US-Mexico Agreement on Migrant Deportations (52:58–56:46)

Mexico and the U.S. reached a new agreement to deport migrants from border cities back to their home countries and prevent them from using railways to reach the U.S. border. Representative Henry Cuellar noted this strategy was used successfully under previous administrations, though human rights organizations have condemned the practice. The move aims to "depressurize" northern Mexican cities currently overwhelmed by the migration flow.

Keywords: [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), [deportation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deportation.md), railways, [henry cuellar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/henry-cuellar.md), [human rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights.md), unma

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Chicago Sanctuary City Referendum Proposal (56:46–59:54)

Chicago Alderman Anthony Beale proposed a referendum for the March primary ballot to let voters decide if the city should maintain its "sanctuary city" status. The city is expected to spend $255 million on the migrant crisis by the end of the year, with thousands of migrants currently housed in police stations and airports. Some officials argued the "welcoming city" ordinance prevents police from cooperating with ICE, exacerbating the local strain.

Keywords: [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), [sanctuary city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanctuary-city.md), anthony beale, [referendum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/referendum.md), [migrant crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/migrant-crisis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/12.md)

### 13. ICE Non-Responsiveness to Human Trafficking Reports (59:57–1:02:28)

A police officer from a rural Ohio town reported being unable to reach ICE or Homeland Security after discovering a potential human trafficking ring at a local trailer park. Despite multiple calls to national hotlines and the local Detroit office, the officer received only busy signals and unreturned voicemails. The incident suggests that federal immigration agencies are prioritizing processing new arrivals over investigating criminal trafficking within the interior.

Keywords: [ice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ice.md), [ohio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ohio.md), [human trafficking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-trafficking.md), [law enforcement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law-enforcement.md), [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/13.md)

### 14. National Parks as Migrant Housing Sites (1:02:29–1:06:21)

The Biden administration has begun leasing National Park Service lands, such as Floyd Bennett Field in New York, to house thousands of migrants. Critics at a House Committee on Natural Resources hearing argued that using federal lands for housing lacks necessary infrastructure like sewage and electricity and threatens natural biodiversity. Park Police officials expressed concern that they are understaffed to manage the safety of both the public and the migrants.

Keywords: [national park service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-park-service.md), floyd bennett field, gateway national recreation area, [yellowstone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yellowstone.md), [biden administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biden-administration.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/14.md)

### 15. European Migration Crisis and German Voting Rights (1:06:22–1:11:29)

Germany is facing a surge in asylum applications, up 80% from last year, forcing Berlin to use hardware stores and churches as temporary shelters. While the German Interior Minister has suggested granting voting rights to refugees, Greece has moved to tap into undocumented migrants to solve a labor squeeze for infrastructure projects. Poland remains a vocal critic of EU migration policies, citing its low unemployment and zero terrorist attacks as results of strict border control.

Keywords: [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [berlin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berlin.md), [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md), [greece](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greece.md), [labor shortage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-shortage.md), [voting rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voting-rights.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Italy Migrant Surge and Polish MEP Defiance (1:11:30–1:17:25)

Italy has established new centers to accelerate the deportation of migrants from "safe countries" following a massive surge on Lampedusa Island. Meanwhile, Polish MEP Dominik Tarczynski delivered a viral speech in the European Parliament, rejecting "educated immigration" and telling leftist colleagues that Poland does not need their "doctors and engineers." Tarczynski credited Poland's lack of illegal migration for its high GDP and safety.

Keywords: [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [lampedusa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lampedusa.md), [giorgia meloni](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/giorgia-meloni.md), [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md), dominik tarczynski, safe countries

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Alberta Population Growth and Favelas Concept (1:17:26–1:24:22)

Alberta is currently the fastest-growing province in Canada, with 98% of the country's population growth attributed to international migration. This rapid influx has led to discussions about the potential emergence of shantytowns or "favelas," similar to those in Brazil, as a way for migrants to house themselves. Critics argue that globalist policies are intentionally suppressing domestic birth rates while importing "obedient workers" to replace the existing population.

Keywords: [alberta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alberta.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [migration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/migration.md), [favelas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/favelas.md), [rio de janeiro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rio-de-janeiro.md), [demographics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demographics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce, and Pfizer Marketing (1:24:22–1:30:52)

The high-profile appearance of Taylor Swift at a Kansas City Chiefs game to support Travis Kelce is characterized as a calculated business transaction rather than a genuine romance. The "Swiftie" effect reportedly added $5 billion to the global economy and spiked NFL jersey sales. Simultaneously, Kelce appeared in a Pfizer commercial promoting "two things at once"—the COVID-19 booster and flu shot—linking the pop culture event to pharmaceutical marketing.

Keywords: [taylor swift](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taylor-swift.md), [travis kelce](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travis-kelce.md), [nfl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nfl.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [kansas city chiefs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kansas-city-chiefs.md), [1989](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1989.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/18.md)

### 19. CDC Long COVID Claims and Mandy Cohen (1:31:04–1:34:01)

CDC Director Mandy Cohen claimed that COVID-19 vaccines decrease the risk of developing Long COVID. However, a peer-reviewed study from Martin Luther University in Germany found that while unvaccinated individuals were at higher risk from the original Wuhan variant, vaccination provides "zero chance" of additional protection against Long COVID. Critics labeled Cohen's statements as misinformation intended to drive booster uptake.

Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [mandy cohen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mandy-cohen.md), [long covid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/long-covid.md), wuhan variant, [vaccination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccination.md), peer-reviewed

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Long COVID Biomarkers and Blood Study (1:34:01–1:36:47)

A study led by David Putrino at Mount Sinai identified specific blood biomarkers in Long COVID patients, including 50% lower levels of cortisol and signs of T-cell exhaustion. The research also found the reactivation of dormant viruses like Epstein-Barr and herpes in those suffering from the condition. The study aims to provide a clinical basis for a condition that has largely been diagnosed through subjective symptoms like brain fog and fatigue.

Keywords: [long covid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/long-covid.md), [cortisol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cortisol.md), [t cells](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/t-cells.md), epstein-barr, [mount sinai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mount-sinai.md), biomarkers

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/20.md)

### 21. DNA Contamination in Pfizer Vaccines (1:36:48–1:43:18)

Dr. Phillip Buckhaults, a cancer genomics expert at the University of South Carolina, testified before the South Carolina Senate that Pfizer's mRNA vaccines are contaminated with plasmid DNA. Buckhaults explained that this DNA was used as a template for mass production but was not properly removed. He warned that this foreign DNA could integrate into the human genome, potentially leading to sustained autoimmune issues or future cancers.

Keywords: phillip buckhaults, [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [dna contamination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dna-contamination.md), plasmid, university of south carolina, [genomics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/genomics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Vaccine Production Scaling and Process Two Risks (1:43:18–1:49:00)

Dr. Buckhaults detailed the difference between "Process One" (used for clinical trials) and "Process Two" (used for mass production). While the trial batches used clean PCR products, the production batches used bacteria-grown plasmid DNA to scale up, leading to the contamination. He urged the FDA to require Pfizer to "clean up" the vaccines, noting that different batches have varying levels of DNA, which may explain the inconsistency in adverse events.

Keywords: [mrna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mrna.md), [pcr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pcr.md), plasmid vector, [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [emergency use authorization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emergency-use-authorization.md), [south carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-carolina.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Anthony Fauci and CIA Origins Investigation (1:49:05–1:53:27)

Representative Brad Wenstrup has accused Dr. Anthony Fauci of secretly visiting CIA headquarters to influence the agency's investigation into the origins of COVID-19. Former Ambassador Dr. Jeff Gunter noted that Fauci has a history of "misdirection," dating back to the HIV era. The allegations suggest a coordinated effort between public health officials and intelligence agencies to suppress the lab leak theory and protect those who funded gain-of-function research.

Keywords: [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), brad wenstrup, [lab leak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lab-leak.md), [covid-19 origins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19-origins.md), jeff gunter

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Historical Deconstruction of Delta Variant Boosters (1:53:27–1:59:55)

Archival clips from 2021 reveal that health officials chose not to update mRNA vaccines for the Delta variant primarily to avoid devaluing existing inventory and damaging public confidence. Despite the technology's "plug and play" marketing, officials pushed the original shots as "boosters" even as "breakthrough infections" became common. The strategy was described as a marketing game to move old stock rather than providing the most effective medical intervention.

Keywords: [delta variant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-variant.md), [breakthrough infections](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/breakthrough-infections.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [moderna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moderna.md), [inventory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inventory.md), [2021](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2021.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/24.md)

### 25. F-35 Ejection Incident and Pilotless Future (1:59:54–2:05:57)

The recent ejection of a top-tier pilot from an F-35, which continued to fly on autopilot, is analyzed as a potential "op" to promote pilotless aircraft. Parallels were drawn to a scene in *Top Gun: Maverick* where a commander tells Tom Cruise's character that the future of aviation does not include human pilots. The military-industrial complex is seen as moving toward drones to eliminate the high cost and liability of human flight crews.

Keywords: [f-35](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-35.md), top gun maverick, [911 call](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/911-call.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [military industrial complex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-industrial-complex.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/25.md)

### 26. No Agenda Value for Value and Art Awards (2:05:57–2:20:14)

The hosts discussed the "Value for Value" model, celebrating nearly 16 years of listener-supported broadcasting. They critiqued companies like Podimo for putting podcasts behind paywalls, which kills discoverability. Sir Paul Couture was awarded the executive producer credit for his "sudden death" warning sticker artwork, while the hosts encouraged listeners to use modern podcast apps to support the open RSS ecosystem.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), podimo, [paul couture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-couture.md), [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), [rss](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rss.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Knighting Ceremony and Posthumous Damehood (2:20:15–2:30:06)

A solemn knighting ceremony honored William Rowland and his late wife, who was awarded a posthumous damehood after passing away from liver cancer. Another donor, Joe Clemens, requested a tribute for his daughter who died of cystic fibrosis and asked for a clip regarding WTC Building 7. The segment highlighted the deep personal connections and community support within the "No Agenda" producer network.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [damehood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/damehood.md), william rowland, cystic fibrosis, [building 7](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/building-7.md), [spokane](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spokane.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Wedding Anniversaries and Executive Producer Credits (2:30:08–2:36:26)

The hosts celebrated the 10th wedding anniversary of Andrew and Hillary Helenius, while Adam Curry clarified he never wore leather pants during his time on *Headbangers Ball*. Executive and Associate Executive Producer credits were read for donors from across the U.S. and Canada, including a sourdough bagel roller in Pittsburgh and a resume service in Colorado.

Keywords: matrimony, [headbangers ball](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/headbangers-ball.md), leather pants, [image makers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/image-makers.md), [resume](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/resume.md), [pittsburgh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pittsburgh.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Global Meetup Reports and New Knights (2:36:27–2:46:00)

Producers from Green Bay, Wisconsin, and Greensboro, Georgia, submitted meetup reports, including a campaign update for a Charleston City Council candidate. New knights and dames were dubbed, including Sir Mizzing of the DevOps and Dame Puma of the Eastern Washington Chasms. The hosts promoted the use of No Agenda rings and the importance of local community connection through the meetup website.

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [green bay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-bay.md), [charleston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charleston.md), [freemasonry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freemasonry.md), [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [rings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rings.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Meetup Calendar and ISO Audio Clips (2:46:00–2:50:54)

The hosts reviewed the upcoming meetup calendar, noting events in Nashville, Vancouver, Toronto, and Austin. They also competed in an "ISO" (In Search Of) audio clip contest, featuring snippets about trusting public figures and "extra awesome" patrons. Listeners were encouraged to start their own local meetups to foster "protection through connection."

Keywords: [alpharetta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alpharetta.md), [nashville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nashville.md), [vancouver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vancouver.md), [toronto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toronto.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [houston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/houston.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Meta AI Chatbots and Celebrity Avatars (2:50:54–2:54:50)

Mark Zuckerberg unveiled Meta's new AI chatbots for Instagram and WhatsApp, which utilize the Llama 2 model and Microsoft's Bing search. The bots feature celebrity likenesses, such as "Max the Sous Chef," to help users with daily tasks like recipes. Critics compared the demo to outdated tech from the late 90s and questioned the actual utility of having AI avatars in the metaverse.

Keywords: [meta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meta.md), [mark Zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [llama 2](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/llama-2.md), [chatbots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chatbots.md), sous chef, [metaverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metaverse.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Barry Diller on AI Copyright and Fair Use (2:54:51–2:58:54)

Media mogul Barry Diller expressed his disdain for the current AI hype, arguing that "fair use" laws must be redefined to prevent AI companies from "sucking up" copyrighted content without payment. Diller, representing Dotdash Meredith, stated that publishers are seeking standing to sue AI developers for appropriation. He dismissed the current state of AI as "research" and noted that no one is yet making significant revenue from the technology.

Keywords: [barry diller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barry-diller.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [fair use](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fair-use.md), [chatgpt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chatgpt.md), dotdash meredith, [publishing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/publishing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Senate AI Forum and Anthrax Walkthrough (2:58:54–3:01:56)

During a closed-door Senate forum on AI, Tristan Harris of the Center for Humane Technology reportedly demonstrated that Meta's Llama 2 could provide a detailed walkthrough for creating anthrax. Mark Zuckerberg countered that such information is already readily available on YouTube. The exchange highlighted the tension between tech leaders and safety advocates regarding the risks of open-source large language models.

Keywords: [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [tristan harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tristan-harris.md), [anthrax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthrax.md), [biological weapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biological-weapons.md), [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Senator Menendez Indictment and Gold Bar Bribes (3:01:56–3:10:26)

Senator Chuck Schumer expressed disappointment following the indictment of Senator Bob Menendez on bribery charges. Representative Matt Gaetz mocked the situation, stating that U.S. currency is so devalued by the $33 trillion national debt that Democrats now require bribes in gold bars to maintain value. The show concluded with a musical mix featuring "melon" themed donations and a final sign-off.

Keywords: [bob menendez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-menendez.md), [chuck schumer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-schumer.md), [matt gaetz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-gaetz.md), [gold bars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold-bars.md), [bribery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bribery.md), 33 trillion

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1594-gene-jock/chapter/34.md)

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