# Stern & Wrinkled

> A massive Pentagon accounting error and a sudden F-16 policy reversal highlight a week of high-stakes diplomacy from the G7 summit to the Arab League.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1557
- **Published:** 2023-05-21
- **Length:** 3h 10m
- **Topics:** F-16 jets, [Bakhmut](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bakhmut.md), BT layoffs, Digital Loonie, [PFAS](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfas.md), [RFK Jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rfk-jr.md), [Ozempic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ozempic.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled

## About this episode

President Volodymyr Zelensky arrived at the G7 summit in Hiroshima to secure F-16 fighter jets, prompting a major policy reversal from President Joe Biden. The diplomatic charm offensive included a stop at the Arab League summit in Saudi Arabia, where Zelensky appealed to regional leaders regarding the plight of Muslims in Crimea. Meanwhile, the Pentagon revealed a three-billion-dollar accounting error in Ukraine aid valuation, potentially funding the immense logistical tail required for Western jet maintenance.

Evgeny Prigozhin and the Wagner Group claimed total control over Bakhmut, while Syrian President Bashar al-Assad marked his return to the international stage in Jeddah. In the United Kingdom, British Telecom announced 55,000 job cuts with plans to replace 10,000 roles with artificial intelligence. Trade between China and Russia surged 30 percent at the Heihe border as energy exports shifted away from Europe. In North America, the Bank of Canada initiated public consultations on a Digital Canadian Dollar while generic drug shortages reached record highs across the United States.

Sir Eric of Ye Olde Forge received a knighthood for his contributions as the community gathered for meetups from Idaho to the Netherlands. The show examined the Scarred Woman Experiment regarding victimhood ideology and the latest corporate virtue signaling from Ford and the TSA. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. championed financial sovereignty at Bitcoin 2023, drawing parallels to the media suppression of past grassroots campaigns.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/transcript.md.

### 1. Sumo Wrestling, New York Weight Discrimination Bill (0:00–2:38)

Taro no Fuji, a Mongolian-born Yokozuna, is currently leading the May sumo tournament with eight consecutive wins. New York City officials are moving to pass a bill prohibiting discrimination based on weight, which is characterized as unnecessary virtue signaling. The discussion contrasts the stability of traditional sports like sumo against modern political trends and global conflicts.

Keywords: taro no fuji, [yokozuna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yokozuna.md), [sumo wrestling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sumo-wrestling.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), weight discrimination, [virtue signaling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/virtue-signaling.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Volodymyr Zelensky, G7 Summit Charm Offensive in Hiroshima (2:39–9:17)

President Volodymyr Zelensky arrived at the G7 summit in Hiroshima, Japan, as part of a broader European tour to secure military aid. The visit resulted in President Joe Biden reversing his stance to support the acquisition of F-16 fighter jets for Ukraine and the training of Ukrainian pilots. Critics note the irony of world leaders discussing nuclear war in Hiroshima, a city previously decimated by an atomic bomb.

Keywords: [volodymyr zelensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volodymyr-zelensky.md), [g7 summit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g7-summit.md), [hiroshima](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hiroshima.md), f-16 fighter jets, [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), charm offensive

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Pentagon Accounting Error, Ukraine Military Aid Valuation (9:18–11:49)

The Pentagon discovered an accounting error that overvalued military aid sent to Ukraine by $3 billion, effectively freeing up more funds for future weapons shipments. This surplus may be utilized for the high costs associated with F-16 maintenance, infrastructure, and pilot training. Military insiders emphasize that deploying these jets requires significant "boots on the ground" support for technical upkeep and base preparation.

Keywords: [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [department of defense](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-defense.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [accounting error](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/accounting-error.md), [military aid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-aid.md), f-16 maintenance

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/3.md)

### 4. F-16 Deployment Timeline, Netherlands Draken International Deal (11:50–14:59)

Military experts suggest that F-16 fighter jets will likely not be operational in Ukraine until spring of next year due to complex training and logistics requirements. The Netherlands recently canceled a sale of 40 F-16s to Draken International, sparking speculation that these aircraft will be diverted to Ukraine. Effective deployment would require at least 30 jets to make a strategic impact on the battlefield.

Keywords: [f-16](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-16.md), university of portsmouth, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), draken international, spring counteroffensive, military logistics

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Zelensky Arab League Address, Muslim Outreach in Crimea (15:00–17:42)

President Zelensky addressed the Arab League in Saudi Arabia prior to the G7 summit, appealing for support against Russian "cages" and illegal annexations. He specifically highlighted the plight of Muslims in occupied Crimea to resonate with the regional audience. Observers noted unusual audio quality during the speech, suggesting potential post-production edits or "glitches" in the broadcast.

Keywords: [volodymyr zelensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volodymyr-zelensky.md), [arab league](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arab-league.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [crimea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crimea.md), [muslims](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/muslims.md), russian prisons

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Wagner Group, Battle of Bakhmut Victory Claims (17:42–24:33)

Evgeny Prigozhin claimed that the Wagner Group has completely captured the city of Bakhmut after months of intense fighting, though Ukrainian officials initially denied the city had fallen. Prigozhin indicated his forces would hand control to the Russian army for rest and replenishment. Meanwhile, NATO leaders are preparing secret military plans for the upcoming Vilnius summit to address potential Russian aggression.

Keywords: evgeny prigozhin, [wagner group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wagner-group.md), [bakhmut](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bakhmut.md), russian army, [nato summit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato-summit.md), [vilnius](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vilnius.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Bashar al-Assad, Syria Reintegration into Arab League (24:34–29:50)

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad attended the Arab League summit in Jeddah, marking the end of a decade of regional isolation following the Syrian civil war. Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is positioning Saudi Arabia as a global mediator by hosting both Assad and Zelensky. The move signals a shift in Middle Eastern diplomacy away from U.S. influence and toward regional normalization.

Keywords: [bashar al-assad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bashar-al-assad.md), [syria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syria.md), [arab league](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arab-league.md), [mohammed bin salman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mohammed-bin-salman.md), [jeddah](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeddah.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/7.md)

### 8. G7 Summit Sanctions, European F-16 Training Sites (29:51–35:02)

G7 leaders in Japan agreed to a new round of sanctions against Russia while coordinating the training of Ukrainian pilots on F-16s at sites in Europe. Discrepancies exist in media reports regarding whether training will occur in the United States or at European bases like Ramstein. The move is viewed as a boon for defense contractors as European nations look to upgrade their own fleets to newer models.

Keywords: [g7 summit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g7-summit.md), [rishi sunak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rishi-sunak.md), [emmanuel macron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emmanuel-macron.md), [ursula von der leyen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ursula-von-der-leyen.md), f-16 training, [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/8.md)

### 9. F-16 History, Lockheed Bribery Scandal (35:02–39:24)

The F-16 Fighting Falcon, first flown in 1974, remains a cornerstone of many air forces despite its 50-year-old design. Historical context includes the 1970s Lockheed bribery scandal involving Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, which nearly led to the company's downfall. While the airframe is old, modern versions continue to be manufactured by Lockheed Martin.

Keywords: f-16 fighting falcon, [general dynamics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-dynamics.md), [lockheed martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockheed-martin.md), [prince bernhard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prince-bernhard.md), bribery scandal, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Biden F-16 Reversal, Ukraine Military Strategy (39:25–46:56)

President Biden's decision to allow F-16 transfers to Ukraine represents a significant policy reversal after months of claiming the jets were not needed. Critics argue the delay was performative and that the eventual goal is to transition European allies to the more expensive F-35 platform. The administration maintains that the jets are intended for long-term defense rather than immediate use in the current counteroffensive.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [volodymyr zelensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volodymyr-zelensky.md), [f-16](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-16.md), military escalation, [f-35](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-35.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Biden Ukraine Freeze Strategy, 2024 Election Tactics (46:58–50:04)

Reports suggest the Biden administration is considering "freezing" the Ukraine conflict to avoid a definitive conclusion before the 2024 U.S. presidential election. This strategy is characterized as a way to maintain the status quo and prevent political instability at home. The focus on the Wagner Group is described as a "branding" exercise to simplify complex troop movements for public consumption.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [politico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/politico.md), [2024 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2024-election.md), frozen conflict, [wagner group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wagner-group.md), [theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theater.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/11.md)

### 12. China-Russia Border Ties, Heihe Trade Surge (50:04–55:51)

Trade between China and Russia has surged by 30% over the past year, with significant activity observed at the border city of Heihe. Russian energy that previously flowed to Europe is being diverted to China via massive pipelines to fund the ongoing war effort. Despite the close economic ties, U.S. officials report no evidence that China is currently providing lethal weapons to the Russian military.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), heihe, [xi jinping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xi-jinping.md), janice mackey-frayer, energy trade

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/12.md)

### 13. AI Hardware Incompatibility, Local LLM Testing (55:52–57:31)

Attempts to run a local version of a ChatGPT-style AI on a home computer failed due to hardware incompatibility and massive data requirements. The process required downloading six gigabytes of models, which the host's Windows 11 machine rejected. This personal anecdote highlights the current technical barriers for average users trying to run sophisticated AI locally.

Keywords: [ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), [chatgpt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chatgpt.md), [windows 11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/windows-11.md), hardware compatibility, [large language models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/large-language-models.md), [gpu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gpu.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/13.md)

### 14. British Telecom Job Cuts, AI Customer Service Replacement (57:32–1:00:28)

British Telecom (BT) announced plans to cut 55,000 jobs by 2030, with approximately 10,000 positions expected to be replaced by artificial intelligence. CEO Philip Janssen stated that AI tools like GPT are now capable of handling customer service tasks traditionally performed by humans. This move is part of a broader trend in the tech industry to reduce "bloated" staff as interest rates rise and free money disappears.

Keywords: [british telecom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/british-telecom.md), [bt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bt.md), philip janssen, [ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), job cuts, [customer service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/customer-service.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/14.md)

### 15. German Listener Feedback, Triggering Accents (1:00:29–1:04:41)

A discussion regarding host accents revealed that some German listeners find "Nazi-style" voices triggering or traumatizing due to historical context. One host defended the use of accents as a "work of art" while acknowledging the feedback from serious producers in Germany. The segment also touches on the lack of recent donations from Dutch listeners despite their active local meetup scene.

Keywords: [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [accents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/accents.md), [triggering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/triggering.md), [podcast production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-production.md), [listeners](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listeners.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Netherlands Cow Restrictions, Homeless Veteran Hoax (1:04:42–1:07:50)

Leaked reports from the Netherlands suggest new environmental regulations may limit farmers to only two cows per 0.8 acres to combat nitrogen emissions. Meanwhile, a widely reported story about homeless veterans being displaced by migrants in New York was revealed to be an elaborate hoax. These items are used to illustrate how both real and fake news can be used to "spin up" public outrage.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [farming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/farming.md), [cows](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cows.md), nitrogen crisis, [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md), homeless veterans

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/16.md)

### 17. West Oakland Climate Justice, Toxic Soil Reparations (1:07:51–1:16:31)

A KQED report claims that rising sea levels in West Oakland are pushing toxic groundwater into residential areas, leading to calls for "climate reparations." Critics argue that West Oakland is largely inland and that the narrative is a pretext for gentrification and land seizure. The report links historical industrial pollution and "racist home lending" to current environmental risks.

Keywords: west oakland, [kqed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kqed.md), [climate justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-justice.md), [reparations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reparations.md), [sea level rise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sea-level-rise.md), [gentrification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gentrification.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Eminent Domain, Racial Injustice in Urban Planning (1:16:31–1:22:26)

Urban planning history in West Oakland, including the construction of freeways and BART stations, is being reframed as a history of racial injustice and "diminishment of population." Professor Olufemi Taiwo argues that climate justice and reparations are the same project aimed at changing who faces displacement and disease. The hosts suggest this framing is a "psyop" designed to facilitate property transfers under the guise of social justice.

Keywords: [eminent domain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eminent-domain.md), west oakland, [bart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bart.md), racial injustice, olufemi taiwo, [climate reparations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-reparations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Elon Musk CNBC Interview, White Supremacy Debate (1:22:27–1:27:45)

In a recent CNBC interview, Elon Musk challenged the characterization of the Allen, Texas mall shooter as a white supremacist, citing "psyops" by organizations like Bellingcat. Musk argued that the evidence for the shooter's ideology came from obscure Russian websites. The hosts analyze Musk's rhetoric, suggesting he is "dangle-opping" by appearing to speak truth while navigating complex racial politics.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [cbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbc.md), [bellingcat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bellingcat.md), [white supremacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-supremacy.md), allen texas, [psyops](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psyops.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Forever Chemicals, PFAS Regulation in Canada (1:27:46–1:31:54)

The Canadian government is investigating "forever chemicals" (PFAS) found in consumer products like clothing and takeout containers. These substances have been linked to liver damage and cancer, with elevated levels found in northern indigenous communities. The hosts discuss the marketing of the term "forever chemicals" and the potential for new regulations to impact the textile and detergent industries.

Keywords: [pfas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfas.md), [forever chemicals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/forever-chemicals.md), [health canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-canada.md), [environment canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/environment-canada.md), clothing, indigenous communities

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Andrew Sullivan, Queer Theory and Children (1:31:55–1:37:40)

Blogger Andrew Sullivan published a critique of how "queer theorists" have taken over the gay rights movement and are now targeting children in schools. Sullivan argues that the movement is attempting to abolish the sex binary by encouraging toddlers and kindergarteners to choose their own pronouns and gender identities. This shift is described as a departure from the original goals of gay and lesbian acceptance.

Keywords: [andrew sullivan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-sullivan.md), [queer theory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queer-theory.md), [lgbtq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbtq.md), [gender binary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-binary.md), [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md), [children](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/children.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Non-Binary Teacher Honorifics, TikTok Trends (1:37:41–1:41:00)

A viral TikTok video features a trans non-binary teacher discussing alternative honorifics to "Mr." or "Ms.," such as "Captain," "Sergeant," or "Lord." The hosts use this as an example of how social media trends and "opposition strife" are used to keep the public distracted and agitated. They argue that such content is part of a broader media model designed to generate conflict rather than provide news.

Keywords: [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [non-binary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/non-binary.md), [honorifics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/honorifics.md), [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md), [gender identity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-identity.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Big Pharma, Financial Incentives for Gender Transition (1:41:02–1:44:44)

The hosts claim that the pharmaceutical industry has a massive financial incentive to promote gender transitions, estimating each transition is worth over $7 million in lifetime revenue. They argue that organizations like the CDC and the American Academy of Pediatrics are influenced by "Big Pharma" interests. The segment links the rise of "trans Maoist" ideology to the isolation of children during COVID-19 lockdowns.

Keywords: [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md), [gender transition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-transition.md), american psychology association, [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [rachel levine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-levine.md), [money](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/money.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Senator Machaela Kavanaugh, Nebraska Trans Rights Protest (1:44:44–1:52:14)

Nebraska State Senator Machaela Kavanaugh engaged in a repetitive chant during a legislative session to protest a bill banning sex change procedures and puberty blockers for minors. The bill, which passed narrowly, restricts medical interventions for those under 19. The hosts characterize Kavanaugh's behavior as being "under a spell" and compare the chanting to a religious ritual.

Keywords: machaela kavanaugh, [nebraska](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nebraska.md), [trans rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trans-rights.md), [puberty blockers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/puberty-blockers.md), legislative protest, chanting

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/24.md)

### 25. TSA Transgender Policy, Ford Pride F-150 (1:52:15–1:54:03)

New TSA policies allow transgender passengers to request either a male or female agent for pat-downs, leading to pushback from some agents. Additionally, Ford has released a "Pride" themed F-150 with rainbow colors, which the hosts view as corporate virtue signaling that may alienate traditional customers. These examples are cited as evidence of "mama bears" and the public beginning to resist institutional gender ideology.

Keywords: [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), transgender policy, [ford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ford.md), [f-150](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-150.md), [pride month](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pride-month.md), corporate marketing

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/25.md)

### 26. State Department Pronoun Glitch, Matt Lee Briefing (1:54:04–1:59:01)

Reporter Matt Lee questioned the State Department about a "glitch" that automatically added pronouns to the "From" field in internal emails. The department reportedly offered free therapy to employees upset by the misgendering caused by the technical error. The hosts criticize the imposition of pronouns in corporate and government environments as "virtue signaling" that ruins the English language.

Keywords: [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [matt lee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-lee.md), [pronouns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pronouns.md), [outlook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outlook.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [workplace policy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/workplace-policy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Podcast Value for Value, Modern App Adoption (1:59:01–2:01:49)

The hosts discuss the "Value for Value" model and encourage listeners to use modern podcasting apps like Fountain, Podverse, and Curiocaster. These apps allow for "streaming sats" and real-time interaction through the "troll room." They also promote their own social media instance, No Agenda Social, as an alternative to algorithm-driven platforms.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [fountain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fountain.md), [podverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podverse.md), [curiocaster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/curiocaster.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/27.md)

### 28. No Agenda Art Generator, Artist Leaderboard (2:01:49–2:14:24)

The No Agenda Art Generator, managed by Sir Paul Couture, now features a leaderboard tracking the most successful contributing artists. Tantaniel and Capitalist Agenda are currently at the top of the charts, while long-time contributor Nick the Rat remains the all-time leader. The hosts debate the merits of AI-generated art versus hand-crafted pieces and the difficulty of predicting show topics in advance.

Keywords: [no agenda art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-art.md), [tantaniel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tantaniel.md), [paul couture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-couture.md), [nick the rat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nick-the-rat.md), [ai art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai-art.md), leaderboard

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Executive Producer Donations, North Idaho Meetup (2:14:25–2:24:09)

Sir Scott the Jew led a successful "North Idaho Sanity Brigade" meetup where attendees pooled their funds to support the show. New producers were "de-douched" following their contributions, and Lucas Tayema was granted the title of Baronet of the Muehlertaal Luxembourg. The segment highlights the importance of community meetups in sustaining the podcast's financial model.

Keywords: sir scott the jew, [north idaho](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-idaho.md), [meetup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetup.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [baronet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baronet.md), [luxembourg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/luxembourg.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Associate Executive Producers, Birthday Shoutouts (2:24:11–2:29:46)

A list of Associate Executive Producers is read, including Amy Zipkin, Jason Bible, and Aaron Campbell. The hosts provide "karma" for cancer recovery and "de-douching" for various listeners and their partners. Birthday wishes are extended to several community members, including a "shit hot pilot" named Rob and a long-time listener in Las Vegas.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md), [pilot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pilot.md), testosterone therapy

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Knighting Ceremony, Sir Eric of Ye Olde Forge (2:30:08–2:32:50)

Eric Sankmeyer is officially knighted as "Sir Eric of Ye Olde Forge" for his cumulative contributions of $1,000 or more. Additionally, Baron Sir Economic Hitman is upgraded to the rank of Viscount. The ceremony includes the traditional reading of the "hookers and blow" list and a reminder about the availability of No Agenda rings for knights and dames.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roundtable.md), [sir eric](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sir-eric.md), [economic hitman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-hitman.md), [viscount](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viscount.md), period status

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Global Meetup Reports, Huntsville to Leiden (2:32:54–2:37:23)

Meetup reports arrived from Huntsville, Alabama; Leiden, Netherlands; and Post Falls, Idaho. The Idaho report humorously mentions a "Russian playbook" and debates over "Flat Earth" theory. Listeners are encouraged to visit noagendameetups.com to find or start local gatherings in their own areas to connect with other "knights and dames."

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [huntsville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huntsville.md), [leiden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leiden.md), [albuquerque](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/albuquerque.md), [indianapolis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indianapolis.md), [flat earth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flat-earth.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Bitcoin 2023 Keynote (2:37:25–2:41:52)

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. delivered a keynote address at the Bitcoin 2023 conference in Miami, where he praised the cryptocurrency for its role in resisting government overreach. He cited the freezing of Canadian truckers' bank accounts as a turning point in his understanding of financial sovereignty. The hosts compare RFK Jr.'s grassroots momentum to Bernie Sanders' 2016 campaign and predict similar media suppression.

Keywords: [rfk jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rfk-jr.md), bitcoin 2023, [miami](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami.md), canadian truckers, [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Bank of Canada, Digital Canadian Dollar Consultation (2:41:52–2:44:55)

The Bank of Canada has launched a public consultation regarding the potential issuance of a "Digital Canadian Dollar" (CBDC). Officials claim the digital currency would function like cash but without the need for physical bills, while critics worry about government surveillance and programmability. The hosts reminisce about old manual credit card "knuckle buster" machines as a more private alternative to modern digital payments.

Keywords: [bank of canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-of-canada.md), [cbdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbdc.md), [digital dollar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-dollar.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [cash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cash.md), [credit cards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credit-cards.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Debt Ceiling Negotiations, Game Theory Tactics (2:44:56–2:48:16)

As the U.S. approaches a potential debt default, media reports are focusing on the "human cost" to Social Security recipients and federal employees. Analysts suggest that "game theory" dictates that an agreement will not be reached until the final seconds to maximize political leverage. The hosts dismiss the alarmism as a recurring "horse manure" tactic used by both parties.

Keywords: [debt ceiling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debt-ceiling.md), [kevin mccarthy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kevin-mccarthy.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [social security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-security.md), [game theory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/game-theory.md), [default](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/default.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Generic Drug Shortages, Big Pharma Market Cornering (2:48:17–2:50:47)

U.S. drug shortages are reaching record highs, particularly for generic medications, leading to rationing in some hospitals. The hosts argue that large pharmaceutical companies have "cornered the market" by acquiring generic manufacturers and then intentionally limiting supply to drive up prices. The FDA has reportedly formed a small team to investigate the financial strain on the generic drug industry.

Keywords: [drug shortages](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-shortages.md), [generics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/generics.md), [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [supply chain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supply-chain.md), [price gouging](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/price-gouging.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Ozempic and Wegovy, Weight Loss Side Effects (2:50:47–2:56:10)

The popularity of semaglutide drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy for weight loss has led to reports of side effects such as "Ozempic face" and temporary hair loss. Dr. Jen Ashton on Good Morning America addressed these concerns, framing them as manageable risks compared to the benefits of treating obesity. The hosts criticize the push to offer these "transformative" injections to teenagers instead of encouraging diet and exercise.

Keywords: [ozempic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ozempic.md), [wegovy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wegovy.md), [semaglutide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/semaglutide.md), [hair loss](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hair-loss.md), [obesity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obesity.md), [dr. jen ashton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-jen-ashton.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Pfizer RSV Vaccine, Maternal Immunization Science (2:56:11–3:00:19)

Pfizer is seeking FDA approval for an RSV vaccine to be administered to pregnant women to transfer antibodies to their fetuses. Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla characterized the growing skepticism toward vaccines as an "assault on science" and "politicization" of health. The hosts question the sudden emergence of "RSV season" as a marketing concept and express concern over the safety of mRNA technology in maternal care.

Keywords: [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [rsv vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rsv-vaccine.md), [pregnancy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pregnancy.md), [mrna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mrna.md), [albert bourla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/albert-bourla.md), science mistrust

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Mpox Resurgence, CDC Summer Warning (3:00:19–3:01:57)

The CDC has issued a warning about a potential resurgence of Mpox (formerly monkeypox) this summer, following a cluster of new cases in Chicago. Many of the new cases occurred in individuals who were already fully vaccinated, leading to concerns about waning immunity. The majority of cases continue to be reported among men who have sex with men.

Keywords: [mpox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mpox.md), [monkeypox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monkeypox.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), [vaccination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccination.md), gay men

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Scarred Woman Experiment, Victimhood Ideology (3:01:58–3:04:40)

A sociological experiment involving women who believed they had facial scars (which were actually removed before their interviews) showed that they perceived significantly more discrimination than they actually faced. The study suggests that a "victimhood ideology" primes individuals to look for oppression even when it isn't present. The hosts relate this to new laws in New York regarding weight and appearance discrimination.

Keywords: [sociology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sociology.md), [victimhood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victimhood.md), [discrimination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/discrimination.md), [experiment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/experiment.md), [psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychology.md), [perception](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/perception.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Outro, Shithole Countries Mix (3:04:41–3:10:04)

The show concludes with the hosts signing off and playing a classic end-of-show mix. The mix features soundbites of Donald Trump's "shithole countries" comments, media figures talking about "connecting the dots," and the 2018 Hawaii false missile alert. The hosts remind listeners to support the show at dvorak.org/na and announce their return for the next episode on Thursday.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [shithole countries](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shithole-countries.md), connect the dots, hawaii missile alert, [end-of-show mix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/end-of-show-mix.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1557-stern-wrinkled/chapter/41.md)

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