# The Verger

> Federal courts and congressional committees collide as the 2024 election cycle heats up with liability verdicts, money laundering indictments, and record-low presidential approval ratings.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1554
- **Published:** 2023-05-11
- **Length:** 2h 59m
- **Topics:** Carroll Verdict, Biden Bank Records, [George Santos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-santos.md), [Debt Ceiling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debt-ceiling.md), [Wagner Group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wagner-group.md), [Ozempic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ozempic.md), NewsGuard AI
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger

## About this episode

A federal jury in New York found Donald Trump liable for the sexual abuse and defamation of E. Jean Carroll, awarding the columnist $5 million in damages. The verdict arrives as Trump spars with CNN moderator Caitlin Collins during a New Hampshire town hall, where he dismissed the potential for a U.S. debt default as a psychological hurdle. Meanwhile, House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer released bank records alleging $10 million in foreign payments from China and Romania to the Biden family.

Congressman George Santos pleaded not guilty to 13 federal counts including wire fraud and money laundering as Senate Republicans begin distancing themselves from the 2024 Trump campaign. In the pharmaceutical sector, the American Psychological Association faces scrutiny over 'affirming care' guidelines that critics claim create an artificial shortage of mental health professionals. Further reports indicate the Pentagon has shortened Iran's nuclear breakout timeline to just 12 days, while the Wagner Group's Yevgeny Prigozhin continues a public feud with the Russian military that some analysts label a strategic psy-op. Additionally, Google integrated its Palm 2 language model into search results as MTV News officially shuttered its news division after 36 years.

A hooded figure captured on video at the coronation of King Charles III sparked social media rumors of a 'Grim Reaper' sighting, though Westminster Abbey officials identified the man as a verger. Actor Richard Dreyfuss voiced his disgust with new Academy Awards inclusion standards, while a protester in San Francisco gained viral attention for screaming about a 'trans genocide' during a Board of Supervisors meeting. The program concludes with a look at the etymology of the term 'kiddo' and its unsettling presence in horror cinema.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/transcript.md.

### 1. SuperBeets Advertising, CBS News Coverage of Donald Trump (0:00–3:34)

The hosts open the program by mocking radio advertisements for SuperBeets and Balance of Nature, questioning the efficacy of powdered vegetable supplements. The discussion shifts to a critique of CBS News and anchor Norah O'Donnell for focusing exclusively on Donald Trump's legal issues while allegedly ignoring evidence presented by James Comer regarding the Biden family. They briefly mention the Wagner Group and the U.S. border situation as upcoming topics.

Keywords: superbeets, balance of nature, [nora o'donnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nora-o-donnell.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [james comer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comer.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/1.md)

### 2. E. Jean Carroll Civil Verdict, Donald Trump Liability (3:35–7:40)

A federal jury in New York found Donald Trump liable for the sexual abuse and defamation of columnist E. Jean Carroll, awarding her $5 million in damages. The jury rejected the specific claim of rape but found Trump liable for battery and defamation related to a 1990s encounter in a department store dressing room. Trump's public response, in which he claimed not to know Carroll, is criticized as a poor legal and PR strategy.

Keywords: [e. jean carroll](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/e-jean-carroll.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), civil trial, [defamation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/defamation.md), [battery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/battery.md), [sexual abuse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-abuse.md), [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Marla Maples Photo Misidentification, Bob Guccione House Anecdote (7:40–12:13)

During the E. Jean Carroll trial, Donald Trump reportedly misidentified Carroll as his second wife, Marla Maples, in a photograph. One host recounts a personal anecdote about meeting Marla Maples at a computer industry event held at the former home of Penthouse publisher Bob Guccione. The story describes Maples' appearance in person versus photographs and mentions the history of the Guccione estate, which was later linked to Jeffrey Epstein.

Keywords: [marla maples](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marla-maples.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [bob guccione](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-guccione.md), [penthouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/penthouse.md), [e. jean carroll](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/e-jean-carroll.md), [manhattan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manhattan.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/3.md)

### 4. George Santos Federal Indictment, Senate Republican Reactions (12:13–15:28)

Congressman George Santos pleaded not guilty to 13 criminal charges, including wire fraud, money laundering, and theft of public funds. Federal prosecutors allege Santos defrauded donors by using campaign funds for personal expenses and illegally collected unemployment benefits during the pandemic. Meanwhile, Major Garrett reports that Senate Republicans are distancing themselves from Donald Trump following the Carroll verdict, suggesting he may be unelectable in a general election.

Keywords: [george santos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-santos.md), [wire fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wire-fraud.md), [money laundering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/money-laundering.md), unemployment fraud, senate republicans, [major garrett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/major-garrett.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/4.md)

### 5. House Oversight Committee, Biden Family Bank Records Investigation (15:29–21:36)

Chairman James Comer and the House Oversight Committee released bank records detailing over $10 million in payments from foreign entities in China and Romania to Biden family associates. Representative Byron Donalds explains how a web of 20 different LLCs was allegedly used to obfuscate the source of the funds, with payments distributed to Hunter and James Biden. The hosts criticize the mainstream media for failing to provide the same level of coverage to these allegations as they do to the George Santos case.

Keywords: [james comer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-comer.md), [byron donalds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/byron-donalds.md), rob walker, [hunter biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hunter-biden.md), [james biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/james-biden.md), [llc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/llc.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [romania](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/romania.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/5.md)

### 6. ABC News Poll, Joe Biden Approval Ratings Decline (21:39–25:03)

An ABC News poll shows President Joe Biden's approval rating hitting a record low, with 58% of Democrats preferring a different nominee for the 2024 election. Political director Rick Klein notes significant erosion in Biden's support among independent and Black voters compared to the 2020 election. The data suggests Trump currently holds a seven-point lead over Biden in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), rick klein, [approval rating](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/approval-rating.md), [2024 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2024-election.md), [black voters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-voters.md), [independent voters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/independent-voters.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/6.md)

### 7. CNN Town Hall, Caitlin Collins and Donald Trump Sparring (25:03–30:19)

Donald Trump participated in a CNN Town Hall in New Hampshire, where he sparred with moderator Caitlin Collins over the 2020 election and federal abortion bans. Trump referred to Collins as a "nasty person" after she repeatedly pressed him on whether he would sign a national abortion limit. The hosts analyze the production of the event, including Collins' choice of attire and Trump's refusal to take a side in the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

Keywords: [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [caitlin collins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/caitlin-collins.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [town hall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/town-hall.md), [abortion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abortion.md), [new hampshire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-hampshire.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Ukraine War Settlement, Donald Trump Anti-War Stance (30:21–33:24)

During the CNN Town Hall, Donald Trump stated he does not think in terms of "winning or losing" the war in Ukraine, but rather in terms of "getting it settled" to stop the loss of life. He criticized the Biden administration's withdrawal from Afghanistan as a historical embarrassment. The hosts discuss how this anti-war positioning might appeal to voters despite media criticism of his refusal to back a specific side.

Keywords: [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [anti-war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anti-war.md), [cnn town hall](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn-town-hall.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Debt Ceiling Negotiations, Donald Trump Default Comments (33:24–39:55)

Donald Trump urged Congressional Republicans to allow a U.S. debt default if the White House does not agree to massive spending cuts. He characterized the potential economic fallout as "psychological" and argued that a default is inevitable eventually due to current spending levels. The Treasury Department, led by Janet Yellen, continues to warn of catastrophic consequences if the debt limit is not raised by June.

Keywords: [debt ceiling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debt-ceiling.md), [default](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/default.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [janet yellen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janet-yellen.md), [spending cuts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spending-cuts.md), [republicans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republicans.md), [democrats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democrats.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/9.md)

### 10. 14th Amendment Debate, California Debt Default (39:55–44:37)

President Joe Biden has expressed hesitation regarding the use of the 14th Amendment to unilaterally issue debt, calling it a potential constitutional crisis. The hosts dismiss the 14th Amendment talk as a media distraction and predict a "continuing resolution" will eventually be used to kick the can down the road. They also note that California has defaulted on $18.5 billion in federal unemployment debt while simultaneously discussing multi-million dollar reparations.

Keywords: [14th amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/14th-amendment.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [debt ceiling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debt-ceiling.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), reparations committee, [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Remote Work Hustles, Parental Support of Adult Children (44:39–48:15)

A listener report suggests that the current labor shortage is partially driven by parents providing a financial safety net for adult children, reducing their drive to work. The discussion covers "side hustles" where remote employees work two full-time jobs simultaneously to earn high salaries. One host shares a personal observation about the high cost of living for younger generations in cities like New York and the resulting reliance on parental aid.

Keywords: [remote work](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/remote-work.md), side hustles, [zoomers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zoomers.md), [parenting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parenting.md), [employment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/employment.md), [cost of living](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cost-of-living.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Allen Premium Outlets Shooting, Hispanic White Supremacy Narrative (48:15–53:43)

Authorities identified Mauricio Garcia as the gunman in the Allen, Texas, mall shooting, noting he had neo-Nazi tattoos and social media posts. The hosts question the media's focus on "white supremacy" given the shooter's Hispanic heritage, mocking a segment from *The View* that attempted to reconcile his ethnicity with his ideology. They observe that the shooter's tattoos appeared fresh and "raised," suggesting they were recently acquired.

Keywords: allen texas, [mall shooting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mall-shooting.md), mauricio garcia, [white supremacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-supremacy.md), [the view](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-view.md), [tattoos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tattoos.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Karine Jean-Pierre, Gun Control and Second Amendment (53:44–59:16)

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre cited a statistic of 200 mass shootings in 2023 to call for a federal ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. The hosts argue that these statistics are misleading as they include gang violence and murder-suicides in specific urban areas. They maintain that the Second Amendment is the final safeguard against government overreach and compare the U.S. situation to strict lockdowns in Australia and New Zealand.

Keywords: [karine jean-pierre](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karine-jean-pierre.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md), [second amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/second-amendment.md), [mass shootings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mass-shootings.md), [assault weapons ban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/assault-weapons-ban.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Title 42 Expiration, Border Security and Foreign Media (59:20–1:06:15)

The expiration of Title 42 has led to a surge of migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border, though foreign media reports suggest the Biden administration is actually implementing stricter "Title 8" enforcement. France 24 coverage highlights Texas State Police installing razor wire and migrants being told they must register in other countries before seeking U.S. asylum. The hosts suggest the Biden administration is attempting to "get points on the board" by appearing tougher on illegal crossings.

Keywords: [title 42](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/title-42.md), title 8, [border patrol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/border-patrol.md), [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), [france 24](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france-24.md), [greg abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-abbott.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Venezuelan Migrants, E-Verify and Sanctuary Cities (1:06:16–1:10:06)

The hosts theorize that Democrats may be cooling on open border policies because many current migrants are from Venezuela and are likely to vote Republican due to their opposition to communism. They discuss the potential federalization of E-Verify in a new immigration bill and the growing tension in New York City as Mayor Eric Adams considers using public streets to house migrants.

Keywords: [venezuela](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/venezuela.md), [democrats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democrats.md), [republicans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republicans.md), [e-verify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/e-verify.md), [sanctuary cities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanctuary-cities.md), [eric adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-adams.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Tucker Carlson Twitter Move, Fox News Monologue Replacements (1:10:07–1:13:06)

Tucker Carlson announced he is moving his show to Twitter, a move the hosts believe will involve a subscription model rather than being "free-to-air." They critique Kayleigh McEnany's performance as a temporary replacement for Carlson's Fox News slot, calling her "insincere" and a "dud." They suggest Dana Loesch would be a more effective, "meaner" host for the 8:00 PM hour.

Keywords: [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [kayleigh mcenany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kayleigh-mcenany.md), [dana loesch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dana-loesch.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Senator John Kennedy, DEA Administrator Fentanyl Hearing (1:13:07–1:19:34)

Senator John Kennedy grilled DEA Administrator Anne Milgram during a hearing, repeatedly asking if inviting the U.S. military into Mexico would stop the drug cartels. Milgram refused to give a direct answer, leading Kennedy to claim that Mexico would be "eating cat food out of a can" without U.S. trade. The hosts characterize the exchange as "performative grandstanding" and argue that neither party is addressing the root causes of the fentanyl crisis.

Keywords: [john kennedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kennedy.md), anne milgram, [dea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dea.md), [fentanyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fentanyl.md), [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), lopez obrador, [cartels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cartels.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Ozempic Fad, Utah Mother Charged with Fentanyl Murder (1:19:35–1:21:10)

The hosts discuss the American obsession with pharmaceutical solutions, specifically the weight-loss drug Ozempic, which they claim leads to "muscle wasting" and "brain deterioration." They highlight a news story from Utah where Corey Richens, an author of a children's book on grief, was charged with murdering her husband using a lethal dose of fentanyl.

Keywords: [ozempic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ozempic.md), [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md), [fentanyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fentanyl.md), corey richens, [utah](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/utah.md), grief book

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/18.md)

### 19. APA Guidelines, Therapist Pressures in Gender Transition (1:21:11–1:25:39)

A practicing therapist provides an "insider" report on how the American Psychological Association (APA) uses "affirming care" guidelines to pressure clinicians into supporting gender transitions for minors. The therapist explains that deviating from these guidelines can lead to charges of incompetence or loss of state licensing. The APA is described as a lobbying group that maintains an artificial shortage of mental health professionals while embedding its "style" and ideology into the education system.

Keywords: [american psychological association](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-psychological-association.md), [apa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apa.md), [gender transition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-transition.md), affirming care, therapists, [licensing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/licensing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Transgender Maoism, Big Pharma and Ivermectin Guidelines (1:25:40–1:32:13)

The hosts argue that the "transgender movement" is being exploited by Big Pharma and "Maoist" politicians to create lifelong medical patients. They cite reports from the Netherlands where medical specialists are now warning against the "fikenet" (trap) of early childhood transition. The discussion links this medical gatekeeping to the COVID-19 pandemic, noting that pharmacists were restricted from filling Ivermectin prescriptions based on similar top-down organizational guidelines.

Keywords: [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md), [transgender](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transgender.md), [maoism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maoism.md), [ivermectin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivermectin.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), genspec

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/20.md)

### 21. TikTok Gender Fluidity, White Supremacy and Colonialism (1:32:13–1:37:03)

A series of TikTok clips features individuals discussing "gender fluidity" and the "myth of white supremacy." One creator claims that the concept of "cisgender" is a trap set by colonialism and capitalism to make certain versions of humanity seem more "natural." The hosts mock the speakers for having "too much social media" and no real-world hardships.

Keywords: [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), gender fluid, [non-binary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/non-binary.md), [white supremacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-supremacy.md), [colonialism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colonialism.md), [capitalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/capitalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Kamala Harris on Equity, New Pronoun Trends (1:37:04–1:40:06)

Vice President Kamala Harris is featured in a clip explaining the difference between "equality" and "equity," which the hosts define as a socialist agenda. This is followed by a TikTok creator introducing "fae/fair" pronouns, specifying that only "queer and trans" people are allowed to use them. The hosts vow to take a stand against non-English language pronouns.

Keywords: [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), [equity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/equity.md), [socialism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/socialism.md), [pronouns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pronouns.md), [pride month](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pride-month.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Cis-Womanhood Debate, Richard Dreyfuss on Inclusion Standards (1:40:06–1:44:14)

The hosts discuss the tension between biological women and trans women regarding the definition of "womanhood," referencing Megyn Kelly's coverage of the topic. Actor Richard Dreyfuss is praised for his blunt criticism of the Academy Awards' new diversity and inclusion standards, stating they "make me vomit." The segment concludes with the hosts encouraging listeners to resist "captured" cultural institutions.

Keywords: [megyn kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/megyn-kelly.md), [cisgender](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisgender.md), richard dreyfuss, [academy awards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/academy-awards.md), [inclusion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inclusion.md), [hollywood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollywood.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/23.md)

### 24. NewsGuard AI, Misinformation Detection in Podcasts (1:44:15–1:47:18)

NewsGuard and Barometer have launched an AI-powered tool designed to detect "misinformation" at the individual episode level for podcasts. This technology allows advertisers to automatically pause media buys if a show discusses "false narratives" identified by NewsGuard's database. The hosts argue this is a form of economic censorship and reiterate that their "value-for-value" model protects them from such industry pressures.

Keywords: [newsguard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsguard.md), barometer, [ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), [misinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/misinformation.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Coronation Grim Reaper, Westminster Abbey Verger (1:47:19–1:50:20)

Social media users spotted a hooded figure resembling the "Grim Reaper" during the coronation of King Charles III. While the BBC and Westminster Abbey officially identified the figure as a "verger" (a lay assistant), the hosts note that the public remains skeptical because the figure's hood does not match standard verger attire.

Keywords: [king charles iii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/king-charles-iii.md), [coronation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coronation.md), [grim reaper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grim-reaper.md), [westminster abbey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/westminster-abbey.md), verger, [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Etymology of Kiddo, Horror Movie Tropes (1:50:21–1:53:04)

The hosts explore why the term "kiddo" feels unsettling to them, linking it to its use by villains in horror and suspense films like *The Texas Chainsaw Massacre* and *Silence of the Lambs*. They debate whether millennials use the term because of these cinematic influences or if it is simply a linguistic trend they find irritating.

Keywords: kiddo, [kill bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kill-bill.md), texas chainsaw massacre, silence of the lambs, [millennials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/millennials.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Birthday Donations, Media Deconstruction Feedback (1:53:06–1:58:48)

The hosts read a series of high-value donations from the "Executive Producers," including birthday wishes and health updates. Listeners express gratitude for the show's "media deconstruction" and its role in helping them identify "psy-ops" in mainstream news. A "psy-op" jingle featuring various news clips is played as part of the segment.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [birthday list](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday-list.md), [media deconstruction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-deconstruction.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Michael Franzese, Mafia JFK Assassination Theory (1:58:50–2:03:29)

Former mobster Michael Franzese claims that the assassination of John F. Kennedy was a "mob hit" orchestrated by New Orleans boss Carlos Marcello. Franzese argues the U.S. government refuses to release classified documents because the CIA is embarrassed that they could not prevent the mafia from killing a sitting president. The hosts discuss this as a potential "psy-op" involving the long-term withholding of government records.

Keywords: michael franzese, sammy the bull, [jfk assassination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jfk-assassination.md), carlos marcello, [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [mafia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mafia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Associate Executive Producers, Mother's Day Call-outs (2:03:29–2:12:03)

The donation segment continues with contributions from "Associate Executive Producers" in Spokane, Chicago, and New York. Many donors include "smoking hot wife" call-outs and Mother's Day tributes. The hosts also mention a book titled *The End of Marvelous* by M. Andrew Jones, which features a humorous blurb attributed to Adam Curry.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [mother's day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mother-s-day.md), [associate executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/associate-executive-producers.md), [spokane](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spokane.md), [idaho](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/idaho.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Knighthood Ceremony, Sir Tinley Knott and Sir Loin (2:12:03–2:17:44)

Two long-term donors are dubbed "Knights of the No Agenda Round Table" after completing 20-month layaway donation plans. Sir Tinley Knott asks for advice on infant vaccination schedules, leading the hosts to recommend the No Agenda Social community for non-pharmaceutical information. The ceremony includes the traditional reading of the "mutton and meat" menu and a promotion for the official No Agenda rings.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [layaway plan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/layaway-plan.md), vaccination schedule, macallan 18, [no agenda rings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-rings.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/30.md)

### 31. No Agenda Meetups, Austin and Portland Events (2:17:44–2:20:45)

The hosts promote several upcoming listener meetups across the United States, including events in Austin, Denver, Portland, and St. Louis. They emphasize the networking value of these gatherings, noting that "slaves" and "knights" often form lasting connections. Adam Curry confirms he will be attending the Austin meetup at Doc's Backyard.

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [portland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/portland.md), [denver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denver.md), [st. louis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/st-louis.md), [networking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/networking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Richard Dreyfuss ISO, Spectrum Cable Cancellation Rant (2:20:52–2:26:07)

The hosts test new "In Search Of" (ISO) soundbites, including a clip of Richard Dreyfuss saying "they make me vomit." One host recounts a frustrating 20-minute ordeal trying to cancel Spectrum cable service, contrasting it with a positive, five-minute experience canceling a Verizon dongle. They criticize the "shameful" retention questionnaires used by cable companies.

Keywords: richard dreyfuss, [spectrum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spectrum.md), [cable tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cable-tv.md), [verizon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/verizon.md), [customer service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/customer-service.md), [fiber internet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fiber-internet.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/32.md)

### 33. San Francisco Trans Genocide Screaming Clip (2:26:07–2:30:44)

The hosts play the full two-minute audio of a woman screaming at the San Francisco Board of Supervisors to protest what she calls a "trans genocide." One host shares that his periodontist showed him the clip, leading to a discussion about the "weird" politics of San Francisco and the use of extreme performance in public meetings.

Keywords: [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [board of supervisors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/board-of-supervisors.md), trans genocide, screaming, [periodontist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/periodontist.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Berkshire Hathaway Meeting, Bill Gates and Epstein Mention (2:30:45–2:33:31)

Peter Flaherty, Chairman of the National Legal and Policy Center, was arrested and removed from a Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting after attempting to speak about Bill Gates' ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Flaherty was criticizing the company's political activities and Gates' influence on philanthropy when his microphone was cut. The hosts discuss this as an example of corporate censorship of "uncomfortable" facts.

Keywords: [warren buffett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/warren-buffett.md), [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [jeffrey epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-epstein.md), [berkshire hathaway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berkshire-hathaway.md), peter flaherty, [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Google Bard and Palm 2, MTV News Shutdown (2:33:32–2:36:56)

Google is integrating its "Palm 2" large language model into its search engine to compete with Microsoft and Alibaba. The hosts clarify that these are "chatbots" rather than true artificial intelligence. In media news, MTV has officially shut down its news division after 36 years, marking the end of an era for the department once led by Kurt Loder.

Keywords: [google bard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-bard.md), palm 2, [ai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ai.md), [mtv news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv-news.md), kurt loder, large language model

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Wagner Group Psy-op, Yevgeny Prigozhin and Sledgehammers (2:36:57–2:45:20)

The hosts analyze the Wagner Group and its leader Yevgeny Prigozhin, suggesting the organization's public infighting with the Russian military is a "psy-op" to manage the end of the war. They review a France 24 report detailing the group's use of sledgehammers as a symbol of violence and recruitment. The discussion questions whether the Wagner Group is a legitimate private military company or a carefully constructed media narrative.

Keywords: [wagner group](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wagner-group.md), [yevgeny prigozhin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yevgeny-prigozhin.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [bakhmut](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bakhmut.md), sledgehammer, [psy-op](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psy-op.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Clare Daly on War Economy, EU Army Development (2:45:21–2:50:18)

Irish MEP Clare Daly delivers a speech in the European Parliament criticizing the transition to a "war economy" that benefits the global arms industry at the expense of European citizens. She also warns about the creation of a "rapid deployment" EU force, which she argues is a de facto EU army despite previous promises to the contrary. The hosts praise Daly for her consistency in opposing the military-industrial complex.

Keywords: [clare daly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clare-daly.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [war economy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war-economy.md), [arms industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arms-industry.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [ireland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ireland.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Iran Nuclear Timeline, Pentagon 12-Day Warning (2:50:18–2:52:23)

CNN's Christiane Amanpour reports that the Pentagon now estimates Iran is only 12 days away from having enough enriched material for a nuclear weapon. This is a significant decrease from the 12-month timeline estimated in 2018. The hosts mock the "two weeks" trope often used in reporting on Iran's nuclear capabilities, noting that these warnings have been constant for 15 years.

Keywords: [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [nuclear weapon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuclear-weapon.md), [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [christiane amanpour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christiane-amanpour.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [uranium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uranium.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Show Wrap-up, Eurovision Predictions, Ant Invasion Story (2:52:24–2:59:31)

The show concludes with predictions for the Eurovision Song Contest, with the hosts favoring Finland due to its recent NATO membership. A final anecdote involves a host's "ant invasion" and a "burning trick" to stop them. The episode ends with a series of musical mixes featuring parodies of Mark Zuckerberg and Anderson Cooper, followed by the "No Jingles, No Karma" song.

Keywords: [eurovision](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eurovision.md), [finland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/finland.md), [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [ants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ants.md), [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [anderson cooper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anderson-cooper.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1554-the-verger/chapter/39.md)

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