# Value Chain

> Celebrity crypto promoters face legal reckoning while global elites at the G20 map out a digital ID future and NASA returns to the moon.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1504
- **Published:** 2022-11-17
- **Length:** 3h 9m
- **Topics:** FTX Collapse, [G20 Summit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20-summit.md), [Digital ID](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-id.md), [Artemis 1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artemis-1.md), Border Invasion, [Lab-Grown Meat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lab-grown-meat.md), [Fediverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fediverse.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain

## About this episode

Tom Brady, Gisele Bündchen, and Larry David face class-action lawsuits for promoting the collapsed FTX cryptocurrency exchange. The legal fallout follows revelations of Sam Bankman-Fried’s unconventional management in the Bahamas, including a $40 million penthouse and questionable fundraising partnerships with the Ukrainian government. While venture capital firms like Sequoia Capital face scrutiny for their due diligence, economist Nouriel Roubini has labeled the entire ecosystem a haven for conmen and carnival barkers.

Global leaders at the G20 summit in Bali signaled a shift toward digital control as Queen Máxima of the Netherlands advocated for the India Stack digital ID system. World Economic Forum founder Klaus Schwab called for a systemic restructuring of the global economy, while Chinese President Xi Jinping publicly confronted Justin Trudeau over leaked private conversations. In the United States, Governor Greg Abbott invoked constitutional invasion clauses to deploy the National Guard to the Texas border, and House Republicans launched a formal investigation into the Biden family’s international business dealings.

Donald Trump officially announced his 2024 presidential bid from Mar-a-Lago, filing paperwork with the intelligence-linked Chain Bridge Bank. Meanwhile, NASA successfully launched the Artemis 1 moon mission, powered by a multi-generational workforce in Mississippi and Louisiana. The episode also explores the rise of the Fediverse as journalists migrate to Mastodon and the FDA’s recent approval of lab-grown chicken from Upside Foods.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/transcript.md.

### 1. Podcast Introduction and Host Health Check (0:00–1:23)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program from Texas and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts discuss Curry's lingering cough and vocal issues following a previous bout with COVID-19. They briefly reference the ongoing FTX collapse before transitioning into the main news cycle.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [texas hill country](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas-hill-country.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), covid cough

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/1.md)

### 2. FTX Collapse and Celebrity Endorsement Lawsuits (1:25–7:34)

Investors are filing class-action lawsuits against high-profile celebrities including Tom Brady, Gisele Bündchen, Steph Curry, and Larry David for promoting the failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX. The legal actions allege these brand ambassadors participated in a Ponzi scheme by targeting unsophisticated investors. Comedian Larry David is noted for his Super Bowl ad which ironically warned viewers against the platform.

Keywords: [ftx](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ftx.md), [sam bankman-fried](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-bankman-fried.md), [tom brady](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-brady.md), [larry david](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-david.md), [gwyneth paltrow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gwyneth-paltrow.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/2.md)

### 3. FTX Australia Liquidation and Management Lifestyle (7:35–9:12)

The collapse of FTX has extended to its Australian subsidiary, leaving thousands of investors without recourse as bankruptcy proceedings primarily cover U.S. operations. Reports emerge regarding the unconventional management style of Sam Bankman-Fried in the Bahamas, including the use of an in-house therapist and a $40 million penthouse. The hosts question how sophisticated venture capital firms like Sequoia Capital were convinced to invest.

Keywords: ftx australia, [bankruptcy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bankruptcy.md), [bahamas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bahamas.md), [sequoia capital](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sequoia-capital.md), [liquidity crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liquidity-crisis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Sam Bankman-Fried and Ukraine Fundraising Connections (9:13–13:52)

Sam Bankman-Fried previously detailed a partnership with the Ukrainian government to use cryptocurrency for raising capital and providing humanitarian aid. Critics examine the flow of millions of dollars through the FTX system during the conflict. The hosts analyze Bankman-Fried's communication style, noting his use of "sloganism" and strange verbal fillers during media appearances.

Keywords: [sam bankman-fried](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-bankman-fried.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [fundraising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fundraising.md), [cnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnbc.md), digital banking

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Explain It Like I'm Five Concept (13:52–15:50)

A discussion ensues regarding the popular internet acronym ELI5, or "Explain It Like I'm Five," which has gained traction on Twitter during the FTX crisis. One host expresses disdain for the phrase, arguing it is a tedious way to request information. The segment touches on the interconnected nature of crypto exchanges like Binance and Coinbase.

Keywords: [tom woods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-woods.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), eli5, [financial literacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/financial-literacy.md), [communication](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/communication.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Nouriel Roubini Criticizes Crypto Ecosystem at G20 (15:51–18:17)

Economist Nouriel Roubini, known as "Dr. Doom," delivered a scathing critique of the cryptocurrency industry at a conference in Bali. Roubini labeled the ecosystem as corrupt and populated by "conmen" and "carnival barkers," specifically targeting Binance CEO Changpeng Zhao (CZ). He also criticized Kevin O'Leary for his role as a paid spokesperson for FTX.

Keywords: nouriel roubini, [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), [binance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/binance.md), [kevin o'leary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kevin-o-leary.md), [money laundering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/money-laundering.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/6.md)

### 7. BCCI Bank Scandal as Heuristic for FTX (18:18–23:15)

Analyst Darren Beatty suggests that the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) scandal of the 1970s is a better historical analog for FTX than Theranos. The BCCI model involved intelligence agencies, including the CIA, using the bank for money laundering and operations like Iran-Contra. This comparison suggests potential deep-state involvement or utility in the rise and fall of crypto exchanges.

Keywords: [bcci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bcci.md), darren beatty, [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [money laundering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/money-laundering.md), [iran-contra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran-contra.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Queen Máxima and the India Stack Digital ID (23:15–31:11)

Queen Máxima of the Netherlands addressed the G20 summit, advocating for "inclusive digital infrastructure" and the implementation of the "India Stack." This technology combines digital ID cards, payment interfaces, and account aggregators into a single platform. The hosts interpret her speech as a roadmap for a global Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) system that tracks user data footprints.

Keywords: [queen máxima](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queen-maxima.md), [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), india stack, [digital id](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-id.md), [central bank digital currency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/central-bank-digital-currency.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Digital Economy Impacts on Homeless Populations (31:12–35:17)

The transition to a cashless digital economy is characterized as a potential threat to the homeless, who rely on physical currency. The hosts discuss Berkeley's legal requirement for businesses to accept cash to prevent discrimination. A debate occurs regarding the ubiquity of QR codes, which saw a resurgence during the COVID-19 pandemic for menus and health passports.

Keywords: [berkeley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berkeley.md), [qr codes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qr-codes.md), cash laws, [digital divide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-divide.md), [homelessness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homelessness.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Germany Cash Printing and Host Banter (35:20–37:29)

Reuters reports that German authorities are increasing efforts to print and store cash in anticipation of potential energy blackouts during the winter. The hosts pivot to a personal anecdote about meeting the Dutch royal family and a conversation involving Ivanka Trump in Manhattan.

Keywords: [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [reuters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reuters.md), [cash](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cash.md), [blackouts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackouts.md), [ivanka trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivanka-trump.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Klaus Schwab and Global Structural Restructuring (37:29–40:08)

World Economic Forum founder Klaus Schwab spoke at the G20 summit about a "deep systemic and structural restructuring" of the world. Schwab described the current era as a "multi-crisis" involving economic, political, and ecological shifts. He emphasized the transition toward a multipolar world that may become more fragmented during the process.

Keywords: [klaus schwab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/klaus-schwab.md), [world economic forum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-economic-forum.md), [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), [multipolar world](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/multipolar-world.md), [transition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transition.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/11.md)

### 12. North American Union and EU-Style Integration (40:08–44:28)

Congressman Matt Gaetz is seeking answers from Secretary of State Antony Blinken regarding potential discussions with Mexican President López Obrador about merging the American continent into a union similar to the EU. The proposal involves consolidating the U.S., Canada, and Mexico under a regional constitution. Critics argue this move would undermine national sovereignty and formalize open-border policies.

Keywords: [matt gaetz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-gaetz.md), [antony blinken](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antony-blinken.md), lopez obrador, [north american union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-american-union.md), [usmca](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usmca.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Chuck Schumer and Immigration Labor Demands (44:29–47:43)

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer stated that the United States faces a labor shortage due to a declining birth rate and must embrace immigrants to ensure economic growth. Schumer advocated for a path to citizenship for 11 million undocumented individuals. The hosts discuss this as a strategy by elites to maintain a "slave" labor force rather than encouraging domestic family growth.

Keywords: [chuck schumer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-schumer.md), [dreamers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dreamers.md), [labor shortage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-shortage.md), [population](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/population.md), [citizenship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/citizenship.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Xi Jinping Confronts Justin Trudeau at G20 (47:43–50:38)

Chinese President Xi Jinping publicly confronted Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at the G20 summit over leaked details of their private conversations. Xi accused Trudeau of being insincere after reports surfaced that the Prime Minister had raised concerns about Chinese interference in Canadian elections. Video of the encounter shows a tense exchange before Xi abruptly walked away.

Keywords: [xi jinping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xi-jinping.md), [justin trudeau](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justin-trudeau.md), [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), [election interference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-interference.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Governor Greg Abbott Invokes Invasion Clauses (50:38–53:54)

Texas Governor Greg Abbott invoked the "invasion clauses" of the U.S. and Texas Constitutions to authorize unprecedented border defense measures. These include deploying the National Guard to repel immigrants, building a border wall, and designating Mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. Abbott also sent the first bus of illegal immigrants to Philadelphia as part of his ongoing protest against federal policies.

Keywords: [greg abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-abbott.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [border security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/border-security.md), [national guard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-guard.md), [philadelphia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philadelphia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/15.md)

### 16. House Republicans Launch Joe Biden Investigation (53:54–57:29)

Republicans on the House Oversight Committee announced a formal investigation into President Joe Biden and his family's international business schemes. The committee alleges evidence of federal crimes including wire fraud, tax evasion, and violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act. The investigation seeks to determine if the President has been compromised by foreign influence.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [house oversight committee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-oversight-committee.md), [hunter biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hunter-biden.md), [wire fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wire-fraud.md), [human trafficking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-trafficking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Donald Trump 2024 Presidential Candidacy Announcement (57:31–1:05:14)

Donald Trump officially announced his 2024 candidacy for President of the United States during a speech at Mar-a-Lago. The former president adopted a more disciplined tone, focusing on inflation, energy independence, and border security rather than the 2020 election. The hosts analyze the lack of media "drama" in the announcement and the potential impact on Republican donors.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [mar-a-lago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mar-a-lago.md), [2024 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2024-election.md), [inflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inflation.md), [border security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/border-security.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Media Coverage and Trump's Campaign Bank (1:05:14–1:10:25)

The hosts examine ABC News' relatively factual coverage of Trump's announcement and investigate the "Chain Bridge Bank" in McLean, Virginia, where the campaign filed its paperwork. The bank is run by Peter Fitzgerald and is noted for its connections to the political and intelligence establishment in Northern Virginia.

Keywords: [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [jonathan karl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jonathan-karl.md), chain bridge bank, peter fitzgerald, mclean

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Biden Administration Threats and Mar-a-Lago Documents (1:10:25–1:14:32)

Author Lee Smith discusses President Biden's comments regarding "legitimate efforts" to ensure Trump does not take power again. Meanwhile, a Washington Post report suggests that many of the documents seized during the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago were personal souvenirs rather than high-level state secrets. The hosts joke about creating "Top Secret" folders for the show's merchandise shop.

Keywords: [lee smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lee-smith.md), [doj](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/doj.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [mar-a-lago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mar-a-lago.md), [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Maricopa County Election Grievances (1:14:34–1:18:15)

A resident named Matt Baker delivered a viral speech at a Maricopa County City Council meeting, comparing the botched election process to a bank losing a customer's life savings. The testimony highlighted public frustration with voting machine failures and the perceived corruption of local election officials.

Keywords: [maricopa county](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maricopa-county.md), matt baker, [election integrity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-integrity.md), [city council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-council.md), [voting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Healthcare Debt and Insurance Shrinkflation (1:18:16–1:20:49)

The hosts discuss the massive scale of healthcare debt in the United States, noting it is a topic often ignored by mainstream media due to pharmaceutical advertising. They describe "shrinkflation" in the insurance industry, where premiums remain high while deductibles increase and services are reduced.

Keywords: [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), healthcare debt, oscar health, [insurance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance.md), [deductibles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deductibles.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Mastodon and the Rise of the Fediverse (1:20:50–1:24:56)

As Twitter undergoes changes, a significant number of journalists and public figures are migrating to the Fediverse, specifically Mastodon. The hosts discuss their long-term involvement with No Agenda Social and observe that reporters are now setting up their own "instances" to maintain independence from centralized social media platforms.

Keywords: [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md), [fediverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fediverse.md), [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [journalists](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalists.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/22.md)

### 23. NASA Artemis 1 Moon Rocket Launch (1:24:57–1:33:10)

NASA successfully launched the Artemis 1 mission, the most powerful rocket ever built, from Kennedy Space Center. The uncrewed mission aims to send the Orion capsule around the moon to test heat shields and flight systems before future crewed landings. The hosts critique the "poetic" media coverage and a NASA official's use of a biblical reference regarding "shaking the wicked" out of the earth.

Keywords: [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [artemis 1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artemis-1.md), [sls rocket](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sls-rocket.md), [orion capsule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/orion-capsule.md), [moon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Artemis Workforce in Mississippi and Louisiana (1:33:12–1:37:39)

Reports highlight that the workforce behind the Artemis 1 rocket is largely based in Mississippi and Louisiana. Many of the engineers and technicians are second or third-generation NASA workers. The hosts note that this "deep south" involvement is rarely mentioned in mainstream national coverage of the space program.

Keywords: [mississippi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mississippi.md), [louisiana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/louisiana.md), [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), stennis space center, [rocket engines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rocket-engines.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Show Logistics and Technical Issues (1:37:40–1:42:24)

The hosts discuss upcoming schedule changes for Thanksgiving and address technical issues with the No Agenda Roku app and Google Podcasts. They encourage listeners to use modern podcast apps and the "Troll Room" for live interaction.

Keywords: [podverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podverse.md), [roku](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roku.md), [google podcasts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-podcasts.md), [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [thanksgiving](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thanksgiving.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Episode Art and Tim Pool Invitation (1:42:25–1:46:58)

The hosts review listener-submitted episode art, including a piece featuring Sam Bankman-Fried. They also address rumors that Adam Curry is seeking an invitation to Tim Pool's podcast, clarifying that the "request" was actually a misunderstanding of a host's impression of Pool.

Keywords: [tim pool](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-pool.md), [episode art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/episode-art.md), [mike riley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-riley.md), [sam bankman-fried](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sam-bankman-fried.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Executive Producer Credits and Knighting Ceremony (1:46:59–2:09:39)

The hosts conduct a lengthy segment honoring high-tier donors and "knighting" new producers into the No Agenda Round Table. They read personal notes from listeners, grant titles such as "Sir Grey Rider of the Templar," and acknowledge "make-good" donations from the show's 15th-anniversary celebration.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [round table](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/round-table.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Jordan Peterson on Instagram and Psychopathy (2:09:40–2:15:53)

Jordan Peterson appeared on Piers Morgan's show to discuss a study regarding personality traits associated with excessive social media usage. Peterson argues that platforms like Instagram enable a small percentage of the population with "dark tetrad" traits—narcissism, Machiavellianism, and sadism—to dominate social discourse. He specifically notes how these traits manifest in "influencer" culture.

Keywords: [jordan peterson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jordan-peterson.md), [piers morgan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/piers-morgan.md), [instagram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/instagram.md), [narcissism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/narcissism.md), [psychopathy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychopathy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Peterson's Proposal for Social Media Verification (2:15:53–2:20:02)

Jordan Peterson proposes that social media platforms should separate verified human users from anonymous "troll demons" in comment sections. He suggests that "Know Your Customer" laws should be applied to social networks to ensure accountability. The hosts disagree, suggesting that the real solution is to abandon Silicon Valley platforms entirely for the Fediverse.

Keywords: [jordan peterson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jordan-peterson.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [verification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/verification.md), [anonymity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anonymity.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Jordan Peterson and Meghan Markle's Podcast (2:20:03–2:24:11)

Jordan Peterson responds to being featured as a "villain" on Meghan Markle's "Archetypes" podcast. He criticizes Markle's vocal delivery, comparing it to Kamala Harris, and describes it as "faux compassionate." Peterson defends his previous clinical claims regarding the difficulty of managing female antisocial behavior, which he says often involves "reputation savaging."

Keywords: [meghan markle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meghan-markle.md), [jordan peterson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jordan-peterson.md), archetypes, [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), antisocial behavior

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Lab-Grown Meat and Richard Branson's Endorsement (2:24:13–2:32:48)

The FDA has approved lab-grown meat for human consumption for the first time, starting with Upside Foods' cultivated chicken. The process involves "immortalizing" primary cells from a chicken and growing them in a cultivator. Sir Richard Branson is featured in a promotional video endorsing the product as a way to "save the world" and the rainforests.

Keywords: [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [upside foods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/upside-foods.md), [lab-grown meat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lab-grown-meat.md), [richard branson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-branson.md), immortalized cells

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/31.md)

### 32. McDonald's French Fries and Pesticide Usage (2:32:49–2:37:29)

Author Michael Pollan details the agricultural requirements for McDonald's french fries, which must be made from long Russet Burbank potatoes. To avoid "net necrosis" blemishes, farmers use a highly toxic pesticide called Monitor. The potatoes must be stored in atmosphere-controlled sheds for weeks to off-gas chemicals before they are safe for consumption.

Keywords: [mcdonald's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mcdonald-s.md), [michael pollan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-pollan.md), russet burbank, [pesticides](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pesticides.md), net necrosis

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/32.md)

### 33. University of Stirling Vegan Mandate (2:37:30–2:39:33)

The Student Union at the University of Stirling in Scotland voted to ban meat and dairy products from its campus food outlets by 2025. The move was pushed by the activist group Animal Rebellion to address the "climate emergency." Meanwhile, a new study in the Annals of Internal Medicine found little correlation between red meat consumption and health problems.

Keywords: university of stirling, [veganism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veganism.md), animal rebellion, [climate emergency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-emergency.md), [red meat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-meat.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Poland Missile Incident and NATO Responsibility (2:39:33–2:47:09)

A missile strike in Poland that killed two people was initially blamed on Russia but later identified as a Ukrainian air defense missile. Despite the findings, NATO and U.S. officials maintain that Russia bears "ultimate responsibility" for the incident. Leaders Rishi Sunak and Justin Trudeau were filmed in a staged phone call expressing support for President Zelensky.

Keywords: [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [zelensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zelensky.md), [rishi sunak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rishi-sunak.md), [justin trudeau](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justin-trudeau.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Final Producer Credits and Title Grants (2:47:10–2:53:48)

The hosts conclude the show by reading the final list of producers who contributed under $100 and officially pronunciating the new Knights and Dames. They provide instructions for producers to claim their official No Agenda rings and certificates.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [credits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credits.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [raleigh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raleigh.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/35.md)

### 36. No Agenda Meetups and Listener Clips (2:53:49–2:57:53)

A list of upcoming producer-organized meetups is read, covering locations from Fort Wayne, Indiana to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. The hosts emphasize the community aspect of the show and encourage listeners to start their own local groups.

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [fort wayne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fort-wayne.md), [charlotte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlotte.md), [cincinnati](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cincinnati.md), [torrance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/torrance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Fentanyl Prills and Psychiatric Drug Statistics (2:57:53–3:03:15)

Reports surface regarding "fentanyl prills" being manufactured in Canada and sold as counterfeit Xanax in the U.S. Additionally, data from the Citizens' Commission on Human Rights reveals that over 76 million Americans are on psychiatric drugs, including thousands of infants on antidepressants and millions of adults on Adderall.

Keywords: [fentanyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fentanyl.md), [xanax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xanax.md), [ativan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ativan.md), cchr, [psychiatric drugs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychiatric-drugs.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Fentanyl Vaccine and Show Sign-off (3:03:16–3:09:35)

Scientists have reportedly developed a "fentanyl vaccine" to block the drug's effects on the brain. The hosts sign off with a reminder of the "value-for-value" model and play the "End of Show Mixes" by Mattie J and Fletcher Trap Dog.

Keywords: fentanyl vaccine, [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [vitamin d](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vitamin-d.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [end of show mix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/end-of-show-mix.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1504-value-chain/chapter/38.md)

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