# Torture Telephone > Globalist leaders converge at the Clinton Global Initiative to rewire international finance while domestic energy infrastructure burns and federal pandemic fraud reaches a quarter-billion dollars. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 1488 - **Published:** 2022-09-22 - **Length:** 2h 57m - **Topics:** [Great Reset](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/great-reset.md), Feeding Our Future, Cellosis, [Human Composting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-composting.md), [Space Force](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/space-force.md), Uniper, CSA Day - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone ## About this episode JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon warned Representative Rashida Tlaib that halting fossil fuel investments would be the road to hell for America during a contentious House Committee on Financial Services hearing. Tlaib, who repeatedly mispronounced the word Celsius while citing climate targets, called for Chase customers to close their accounts in retaliation. The exchange highlights the growing friction between Wall Street and progressive lawmakers over net-zero mandates. BlackRock CEO Larry Fink joined Bill Gates and the Clinton Global Initiative to propose a trillion-dollar annual overhaul of IMF and World Bank charters to fund African decarbonization. Meanwhile, President Joe Biden triggered a market sell-off for vaccine makers like Pfizer and Moderna after declaring the pandemic over on 60 Minutes. This declaration stands in contrast to CDC Director Rochelle Walensky’s testimony regarding border closures and Dr. Paul Offit’s dissent on the FDA vaccine advisory committee over bivalent booster data derived from mouse studies. In Minnesota, federal prosecutors indicted 47 individuals from the nonprofit Feeding Our Future for allegedly embezzling $250 million in COVID relief funds to purchase luxury real estate and cars. Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Leslie Dach celebrated the Inflation Reduction Act as a victory over pharmaceutical lobbyists while a Tesla-powered PG&E battery facility in Moss Landing caught fire, forcing the closure of Highway 1. The episode also features a look at the new Space Force anthem Semper Super and a breakdown of the Inca-Pinque reading trick used to humiliate students. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/transcript.md. ### 1. Department of Homeland Security, CSA Day and "If You See Something Say Something" (0:00–3:41) The Department of Homeland Security and Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas are promoting September 25th as "CSA Day" to encourage reporting suspicious activity. The initiative utilizes the hashtag #WhyICSAY to solicit social media participation regarding public safety. Critics argue the campaign is a "bastardized" version of the original "If You See Something, Say Something" slogan that has existed for over a decade. Keywords: [department of homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-homeland-security.md), [alejandro mayorkas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alejandro-mayorkas.md), csa day, [suspicious activity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suspicious-activity.md), [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Bill Gates, Global Fund and Clinton Global Initiative (3:42–7:51) Bill Gates and various world leaders, including Justin Trudeau and Ursula von der Leyen, gathered in New York for the Global Fund following the Queen's funeral. The event focused on funding for malaria, AIDS, and tuberculosis, though observers noted the optics of dignitaries "hobnobbing" rather than working. Simultaneously, the Clinton Global Initiative has returned from its 2016 hiatus to compete for influence in the international philanthropy space. Keywords: [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [clinton global initiative](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-global-initiative.md), global fund, [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [philanthropy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philanthropy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Larry Fink, BlackRock and IMF Charter Changes for Africa (7:52–16:44) BlackRock CEO Larry Fink spoke at the Clinton Global Initiative about the need to change the charters of the IMF and the World Bank to accelerate the "Great Reset." Fink argued for a "holistic review" to move a trillion dollars annually into the emerging world, specifically Africa, to fund decarbonization. Critics suggest this move is designed to use international agencies as a front for private capital to extract minerals for EV batteries while offloading financial risk. Keywords: [larry fink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-fink.md), [blackrock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackrock.md), [imf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imf.md), [world bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-bank.md), [esg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/esg.md), [africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/africa.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Rashida Tlaib, Jamie Dimon and "Cellosis" Climate Hearing (16:44–22:58) Representative Rashida Tlaib questioned banking executives, including JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, regarding their commitment to net-zero emissions by 2050. During the exchange, Tlaib repeatedly mispronounced Celsius as "cellosis" while citing International Energy Agency targets. Dimon refused to commit to halting fossil fuel investments, calling such a move "the road to hell for America," leading Tlaib to suggest student loan recipients should close their Chase accounts in protest. Keywords: [rashida tlaib](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rashida-tlaib.md), [jamie dimon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jamie-dimon.md), [jp morgan chase](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jp-morgan-chase.md), [esg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/esg.md), [house of representatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-of-representatives.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Moss Landing, PG&E Tesla Battery Fire (22:59–23:51) A fire broke out at a PG&E Tesla-powered energy storage facility in Moss Landing, California, prompting a shelter-in-place order. The incident forced the closure of Highway 1 due to concerns over toxic lithium smoke and gas emissions. The fire highlights ongoing safety concerns regarding large-scale battery storage infrastructure. Keywords: [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), [pg&e](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pg-e.md), moss landing, lithium fire, energy storage [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Germany, Uniper Nationalization and Hydrogen Infrastructure (23:52–25:41) The German government announced the nationalization of Uniper, the country's largest gas importer, to secure energy supplies amid Russian gas cuts. Germany will spend over $8 billion to acquire a 99% stake in the company. Meanwhile, a second hydrogen liquefaction plant has been announced for Rotterdam as Europe continues to pivot toward green hydrogen infrastructure. Keywords: [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), uniper, [nationalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nationalization.md), [energy crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-crisis.md), [rotterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rotterdam.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Electric Vehicle Charging Limitations and Hydrogen Fuel Cells (25:42–30:38) The practical limitations of electric vehicles are highlighted by long charging wait times at stations in locations like Barstow, California. Hydrogen fuel cells are discussed as a faster-refueling alternative, though the process of creating "green hydrogen" via electrolysis is criticized for potential energy waste. While Toyota continues to develop hydrogen models, the broader industry remains focused on battery technology that has seen limited fundamental improvement in decades. Keywords: [electric vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-vehicles.md), hydrogen fuel cells, [toyota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toyota.md), [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), [energy density](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-density.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Nancy Pelosi, Protect Our Care and the Inflation Reduction Act (30:41–37:28) Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Joe Biden celebrated the Inflation Reduction Act, framing it as a victory over the pharmaceutical industry. However, the event featured heavy branding from "Protect Our Care," a progressive organization led by Leslie Dach and Brad Woodhouse. Dach, a former Walmart executive and Obama official, and Woodhouse, a veteran Democratic strategist, are identified as key insiders coordinating the "outside mobilization" for the legislation. Keywords: [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), protect our care, [inflation reduction act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inflation-reduction-act.md), brad woodhouse, leslie dach [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Karine Jean-Pierre, COVID Funding and Testing Business Scams (37:29–41:21) White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre urged Congress to pass additional COVID-19 funding to prepare for future variants and research. The administration is blaming Republicans for funding delays that have left small businesses in the testing industry unreimbursed. Many businesses that scaled up testing operations are reportedly only receiving half of their expected government reimbursements, leading to financial distress. Keywords: [karine jean-pierre](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karine-jean-pierre.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md), pandemic funding, [small business](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/small-business.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Joe Biden, 60 Minutes and the "Pandemic is Over" Claim (41:22–46:34) President Joe Biden declared that "the pandemic is over" during an interview with 60 Minutes, causing shares of vaccine makers to plunge. HHS Secretary Javier Becerra and Dr. Anthony Fauci subsequently issued clarifications, stating that while the emergency phase may be shifting, 400 people are still dying daily. Critics argue that if the pandemic is legally over, the administration's emergency powers and vaccine mandates should be immediately terminated. Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [60 minutes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/60-minutes.md), [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), [javier becerra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/javier-becerra.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Dr. Paul Offit, FDA Vaccine Advisory Committee Dissent (46:35–50:25) Dr. Paul Offit, a member of the FDA's vaccine advisory committee, explained his vote against the new bivalent Omicron-specific boosters. Offit argued that the data presented—which relied on mouse studies—did not support the claim that the new boosters are significantly better than the original ancestral strain. He expressed concern that the vaccine's benefits are being "oversold" to the public without sufficient clinical evidence of reduced transmission. Keywords: [paul offit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-offit.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [bivalent booster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bivalent-booster.md), [omicron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/omicron.md), [mrna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mrna.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Feeding Our Future, COVID Fraud Indictments in Minnesota (50:41–53:04) Federal prosecutors indicted 47 people associated with the Minnesota nonprofit "Feeding Our Future" for allegedly stealing $250 million from a federal food program. Executive Director Amy Bach is accused of overseeing a scheme where defendants used COVID-19 relief funds to purchase luxury cars and real estate instead of feeding hungry children. The DOJ described the case as the largest pandemic-related fraud scheme discovered to date. Keywords: feeding our future, amy bach, [doj](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/doj.md), [fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fraud.md), [minnesota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minnesota.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Euphemisms for Profanity, Listener Feedback for Teachers (53:06–53:49) A listener who uses the podcast in a classroom setting requested the hosts reduce their use of profanity. In response, the hosts brainstormed various euphemisms such as "baloney," "poppycock," "hogwash," and "Great Odin's Raven." The discussion explores how language choices impact the show's accessibility for educational purposes. Keywords: [profanity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/profanity.md), [euphemisms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/euphemisms.md), [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md), [language](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/language.md), [listener feedback](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listener-feedback.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Podcast Valuation, Programmatic Ad Revenue Pitch (53:51–56:49) The hosts reviewed a valuation from a podcast broker estimating the show's net present value at approximately $1.8 million. The broker suggested the show could generate $2.4 million to $5 million annually by switching from the "Value for Value" model to programmatic ad insertion. The hosts mocked the idea of interrupting their content with automated ads, comparing their potential segue skills to those of Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin. Keywords: podcast broker, [valuation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/valuation.md), programmatic ads, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [ben shapiro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-shapiro.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Man on the Street, Stupidity and the "Inca-Pinque" Trick (56:50–1:02:44) A "man on the street" segment featuring a woman insisting that someone born 10 years ago would be 11 years old sparked a discussion on public ignorance. One host recounted a traumatic childhood experience in the Dutch school system where a teacher used a rhythmic reading trick ("Inca-Pinque") to humiliate him. The hosts debated whether these segments highlight genuine stupidity or are merely the result of manipulative trick questions. Keywords: [man on the street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/man-on-the-street.md), [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md), trick questions, [childhood trauma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/childhood-trauma.md), dutch school [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/15.md) ### 16. US Preventative Services Task Force, Anxiety Screening Recommendations (1:02:44–1:03:40) The US Preventative Services Task Force issued a draft recommendation that all American adults under the age of 65 be screened for anxiety. The panel suggests that early identification in primary care settings can lead to more effective treatment, including for pregnant and postpartum individuals. Critics view this as a move toward mandatory mental health screenings and increased pharmaceutical intervention. Keywords: [anxiety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anxiety.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md), [screening](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/screening.md), [lexapro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lexapro.md), medical recommendations [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Canada, Medical Neglect and the Amber Alert Case (1:03:42–1:07:01) A Canadian mother faced an Amber Alert and kidnapping charges after refusing a lumbar puncture for her son, whom she believed was healthy despite a hospital's meningitis concerns. After the mother took the child home to avoid invasive procedures and a 14-day IV drip, the "Child Ministry" intervened, labeling her refusal as medical neglect. The story is cited as an example of increasing state overreach in parental medical decisions. Keywords: [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), medical neglect, [amber alert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amber-alert.md), [meningitis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meningitis.md), child ministry [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Rochelle Walensky, Fentanyl Crisis and Border Authority (1:07:04–1:09:47) CDC Director Rochelle Walensky was questioned by Congress regarding why the fentanyl crisis has not been declared a public health emergency to help secure the border. Walensky stated that the CDC's authority to close the border is strictly limited to communicable diseases and deferred border policy to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. The exchange highlighted the tension between rising overdose deaths and federal jurisdictional limits. Keywords: [rochelle walensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rochelle-walensky.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [fentanyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fentanyl.md), [border security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/border-security.md), [public health emergency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-health-emergency.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/18.md) ### 19. NGO Migrant Flights, Airline Windfalls and DOT Statistics (1:09:50–1:17:09) Aviation data and Department of Transportation statistics reveal a massive spike in outbound passenger imbalances at border-region airports like El Paso and McAllen. Producers suggest that NGOs are using government funds to purchase high-fare domestic airline tickets to transport migrants across the country. This "windfall" for airlines is evidenced by a net increase of 250,000 outbound passengers over the last 12 months compared to inbound traffic. Keywords: [department of transportation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-transportation.md), [ngos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ngos.md), [el paso](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/el-paso.md), [southwest airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/southwest-airlines.md), [migration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/migration.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/19.md) ### 20. California, Human Composting Legislation and Climate Change (1:17:10–1:23:26) Governor Gavin Newsom signed a bill legalizing human composting in California, set to take effect in 2027. Assemblymember Christina Garcia, the bill's author, argued the process is more environmentally friendly than cremation or traditional burial because it avoids carbon emissions and chemical leaching. The process involves placing bodies in vessels with wood chips and mulch to create nutrient-rich soil over 30 to 45 days. Keywords: [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [christina garcia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christina-garcia.md), [human composting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-composting.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [burial](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/burial.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/20.md) ### 21. No Agenda Social, Art Evaluation and Episode 1488 Artwork (1:23:28–1:32:03) The hosts discussed the growth of No Agenda Social and the "quiz-cha" signup process designed to filter for actual listeners. They reviewed the artwork for episode 1488, titled "Si Señor," and critiqued various submissions from producers like Tantaniel and Nick the Rat. The discussion covered the use of "starburst" graphics in design and the impressive body of work maintained by long-term community artists. Keywords: [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md), [tantaniel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tantaniel.md), [nick the rat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nick-the-rat.md), [digital art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-art.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Executive Producer Donations, Bitcoin Inventor and "Paused" Corporations (1:32:04–1:52:53) The show acknowledged major donations from executive producers, including Joseph Satkowski, who was jokingly credited as the inventor of Bitcoin. Other donors discussed the term "paused" (or "pozed"), which has evolved from HIV-positive slang to describing "woke" or diverse corporations. The segment includes the reading of various listener notes, jingles, and the granting of honorary titles like "Sir Mad Philosopher." Keywords: [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), joseph satkowski, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), woke corporations [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Napa Valley Harvest, Rain Stick Efficacy and Canadian Escapees (1:52:54–2:02:56) A producer from St. Helena reported on the Napa Valley wine harvest and the impact of recent 118-degree heat followed by unusual rain. The hosts defended their use of the "Rain Stick," a precision instrument they claim influences weather patterns, while cautioning listeners not to attribute every storm to its use. Additionally, a note from a "Canadian escapee" detailed his family's move to the U.S. to escape restrictive policies. Keywords: [napa valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/napa-valley.md), [rain stick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rain-stick.md), grape harvest, [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [immigration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immigration.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Associate Executive Producer Credits, Value for Value info (2:02:56–2:08:57) The hosts thanked a final round of associate executive producers from Switzerland, Georgia, and Vermont. They promoted the website valueforvalue.info, a collaborative project with producer Gigi to explain the show's funding model. The segment emphasized that these credits are "forever credits" granted to those who support the "Grand Experiment" of independent media. Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [switzerland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/switzerland.md), rich ballard, caitlin valeska, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Vanderbilt Medical Center, Transgender Surgery and Conscientious Objection (2:09:02–2:13:28) Dr. Ellen Clayton of Vanderbilt Medical Center stated that medical staff who have conscientious or religious objections to performing gender-affirming surgeries should face "consequences." Clayton argued that such objections are problematic in a contractual employment setting and that staff should find other jobs if they refuse to participate. The comments have sparked debate over religious freedom and medical mandates in Tennessee. Keywords: vanderbilt medical center, ellen clayton, transgender surgery, [conscientious objection](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conscientious-objection.md), [tennessee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tennessee.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/25.md) ### 26. TikTok Teachers, Psychological Operations and the FBI "New Left" (2:13:30–2:21:12) The hosts analyzed viral TikTok videos of "smug" teachers, questioning if many are actors participating in a psychological operation. They compared current social trends to 1960s FBI counterintelligence programs that created "mirror image" movements to discredit the New Left. The theory suggests that extreme gender-related content is designed to provoke public anger and undermine legitimate social movements. Keywords: [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [psyop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psyop.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [gender studies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-studies.md), [counterintelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/counterintelligence.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Richard Stengel, State Department Propaganda and News Cartels (2:21:12–2:26:44) Richard Stengel, a former State Department official and MSNBC analyst, spoke at the Council on Foreign Relations about his role as a "chief propagandist." Stengel argued that every country creates its own "master narrative" and that he is not inherently against propaganda used on domestic populations. He also discussed the difficulty of breaking through "news cartels" like The New York Times in the modern media landscape. Keywords: [richard stengel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-stengel.md), [state department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-department.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [atlantic council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atlantic-council.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/27.md) ### 28. CCP Influence at TikTok, NyQuil Chicken Challenge and FDA Warnings (2:26:44–2:34:03) A producer in Shanghai confirmed that every major company in China, including TikTok's parent ByteDance, has a CCP liaison or office. Meanwhile, the FDA issued a warning against the "NyQuil Chicken" TikTok challenge, which involves cooking meat in cough medicine. The hosts argued that the FDA's sudden interest in a years-old internet meme is part of a broader effort to discredit TikTok and justify banning the app in the U.S. market. Keywords: [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [ccp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ccp.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), nyquil chicken, [bytedance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bytedance.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Listener Q&A, Clip Links and FACC Project Update (2:34:04–2:38:25) The hosts addressed a listener question regarding how to find specific links to clips used in the show, directing them to the comprehensive show notes and video sections. They also provided a brief update on the "FACC" (Fat Apple Core) project, noting that a meeting with the lead developer is pending. The segment concluded with a final thank you to donors contributing under the $50 threshold. Keywords: [show notes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-notes.md), facc, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), listener questions [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Knighting Ceremony, Baronhood Errors and No Agenda Meetups (2:38:26–2:45:03) A formal knighting ceremony was held for Joseph Satkowski, Matthew, and James Casey for their significant financial support. The hosts also corrected a "spreadsheet malfunction" that resulted in Sir George being knighted twice, officially granting him the title of "Baron Sir Twice Knighted Sir George." Upcoming No Agenda meetups were announced for Tucson, Portland, Chattanooga, and East Texas. Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), baronhood, [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [tucson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucson.md), [chattanooga](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chattanooga.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Saudi Arabia, Prisoner Exchange and Mohammed bin Salman (2:45:04–2:47:23) Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman negotiated the release of ten foreign fighters captured by Russian forces in Ukraine, including two Americans and five British nationals. The Americans, both military veterans from Alabama, were transferred to the U.S. Embassy in Riyadh. The move is seen as a diplomatic "show up" to the Biden administration, demonstrating the Saudi Prince's ability to facilitate high-level negotiations that the U.S. could not. Keywords: [mohammed bin salman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mohammed-bin-salman.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [prisoner exchange](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prisoner-exchange.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Russian Propaganda, Alla Pukacheva and "Torture Devices" (2:47:24–2:51:10) Russian pop star Alla Pukacheva spoke out against the invasion of Ukraine, a move compared to Dolly Parton or Madonna turning against a U.S. president. Meanwhile, Ukrainian officials claimed to have found "torture rooms" in liberated areas of Kharkiv, displaying items like a hand-cranked field phone used for electric shocks. Critics argue these reports are part of an ongoing psychological warfare campaign to portray the Russian military as technologically backward and uniquely cruel. Keywords: alla pukacheva, [putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/putin.md), [kharkiv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kharkiv.md), [torture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/torture.md), [psychological warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychological-warfare.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1488-torture-telephone/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Space Force Song, Semper Super and Final Outro (2:51:11–2:57:50) The U.S. Space Force debuted its official song, "Semper Super" (Always Above), written by Nashville songwriter and Air Force member Jamie Tichenor. The song was developed over several years to represent the capabilities of the newest military branch. The episode concluded with a mix of clips featuring President Biden's "pandemic is over" declaration and a preview of upcoming interviews on the No Agenda Stream. 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