# G.E.R.M.

> The Department of Homeland Security launches a Disinformation Governance Board as global leaders move to regulate the internet and fund a massive expansion of the war in Ukraine.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1447
- **Published:** 2022-05-01
- **Length:** 3h 21m
- **Topics:** Nina Jankowitz, GERM team, Ukraine Lend-Lease, [Menthol ban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/menthol-ban.md), Disinformation Board, [Value for Value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m

## About this episode

The Department of Homeland Security has appointed Nina Jankowitz to lead the newly formed Disinformation Governance Board, a move Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas defended on Meet the Press. Critics have labeled the initiative a Ministry of Truth, pointing to Jankowitz’s past musical theater performances and her work at the Woodrow Wilson Center as evidence of deep-state alignment. The appointment coincides with a broader push for social media regulation led by Barack Obama and the signing of the Declaration for the Future of the Internet by 60 nations.

President Biden requested $33 billion for Ukraine aid while Congress passed the Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022 to streamline military transfers. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen led a G20 walkout against Russian representatives as the European Union weighed the abolition of national vetoes to form a joint military force. Domestically, the FDA proposed a ban on menthol cigarettes, and the CDC reported that 75% of American children possess COVID-19 antibodies. Bill Gates introduced his GERM pandemic response team proposal at a TED Talk, advocating for a $1 billion annual WHO task force to manage future outbreaks.

John C. Dvorak details the fisting method of eating airplane snacks while Adam Curry evaluates the influx of users to the Mastodon-based No Agenda Social instance. The show welcomes Sir Tax Evasion and Sir Otter the Infungible to the roundtable during a formal knighting ceremony. Listeners from Budapest to Arizona contributed to this production through the Value for Value model, ensuring independence from corporate advertising.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/transcript.md.

### 1. No Agenda Show Schedule Change and Listener Feedback (0:00–6:12)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss a proposed shift in the podcast's recording time to two hours later in the day. Curry notes significant pushback from a small but vocal group of listeners who claim the change would disrupt their daily routines. The hosts decide to implement a one-month test starting on Thursday, May 5, 2022, to monitor how the schedule change affects live viewership and donation patterns.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [podcast schedule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-schedule.md), [listener feedback](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/listener-feedback.md), [cinco de mayo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cinco-de-mayo.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), troll poll

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Nina Jankowitz and the Disinformation Governance Board (6:13–11:21)

The Department of Homeland Security has appointed Nina Jankowitz to lead the newly formed Disinformation Governance Board, which critics have labeled the Ministry of Truth. Jankowitz, a former Fulbright Fellow in Kyiv, has faced scrutiny for her past social media posts and videos featuring musical theater performances. One specific video from a public performance includes lyrics regarding her ambitions for fame and power that have drawn criticism from commentators.

Keywords: nina jankowitz, [department of homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-homeland-security.md), [disinformation governance board](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disinformation-governance-board.md), [ministry of truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ministry-of-truth.md), [musical theater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/musical-theater.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Alejandro Mayorkas Defends Nina Jankowitz Appointment (11:22–15:15)

Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas appeared on Meet the Press to defend the appointment of Nina Jankowitz, describing her as eminently qualified for the role. Critics point to her background in Russian and Ukrainian political science and her work at the Woodrow Wilson Center as evidence of deep-state ties. Observations are made regarding the sparse nature of her Wikipedia entry and her personal interests in musical theater.

Keywords: [alejandro mayorkas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alejandro-mayorkas.md), [homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland-security.md), nina jankowitz, [meet the press](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meet-the-press.md), [chuck todd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-todd.md), [wikipedia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikipedia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Barack Obama and NPR Address COVID-19 Disinformation (15:15–19:18)

Barack Obama delivered a speech at Stanford University focusing on the dangers of online disinformation and its impact on democracy. Following this theme, NPR reported on a Kaiser Family Foundation estimate claiming over 230,000 COVID-19 deaths could have been prevented by vaccination. The report features a story about a woman named Stephanie who died after refusing the vaccine due to belief in conspiracy theories.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [kaiser family foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kaiser-family-foundation.md), [vaccination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccination.md), [disinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disinformation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Wajahat Ali and the Critique of Free Speech Absolutism (19:18–23:36)

Daily Beast columnist Wajahat Ali criticized Steve Bannon and Elon Musk during a media appearance, labeling Bannon an enemy of democracy. Ali argued that Musk's "free speech absolutism" is a facade used by powerful individuals to protect their own speech while suppressing others. The discussion links these critiques to a broader effort by the EU and US Democrats to regulate social media platforms.

Keywords: wajahat ali, [steve bannon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-bannon.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md), [disinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disinformation.md), [daily beast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-beast.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Barack Obama Proposes Principles for Social Media Regulation (23:37–28:55)

Barack Obama outlined a framework for evaluating social media moderation, suggesting that the First Amendment does not apply to private companies like Facebook or Twitter. He argued that content distribution should be governed by whether it strengthens or weakens "inclusive democracy." Critics suggest this standard is subjective and could lead to the censorship of harmless or non-political content under the guise of protecting democratic values.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [stanford university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stanford-university.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [content moderation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/content-moderation.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), [democracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Declaration for the Future of the Internet Signed by 60 Nations (28:56–32:53)

The United States and 60 global partners launched the Declaration for the Future of the Internet on April 28, 2022. The document outlines commitments to protecting human rights, promoting the free flow of information, and maintaining a multi-stakeholder approach to internet governance. Russia and China were notably absent from the list of signatories.

Keywords: [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), declaration for the future of the internet, [digital rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-rights.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), multi-stakeholder governance

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/7.md)

### 8. White House Correspondents Dinner and 1970s Cultural Parallels (32:53–37:27)

Trevor Noah hosted the White House Correspondents Dinner, where he joked about modern conspiracy theories and the political divide. The hosts transition into a comparison between current events and the 1970s, debating the origins of various slang terms like "cats" and "neato." They suggest that the current political and economic climate closely mirrors the instability of the Nixon and Carter eras.

Keywords: [trevor noah](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trevor-noah.md), [white house correspondents dinner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house-correspondents-dinner.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [1970s](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1970s.md), [slang](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slang.md), [cultural trends](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cultural-trends.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Canadian Biker Rally and Protester Confrontation in Ottawa (37:27–44:08)

A biker rally known as Rolling Thunder arrived in Ottawa, prompting a heavy police presence and comparisons to the earlier Freedom Convoy. Rebel News captured footage of a counter-protester who expressed extreme distress over the presence of the bikers, citing concerns about "nebulous freedom" and "bodily autonomy." The woman’s refusal to engage in further comment after her initial outburst became a point of analysis regarding media-driven "derangement."

Keywords: [ottawa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ottawa.md), rolling thunder, biker rally, [freedom convoy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freedom-convoy.md), rebel news, [bodily autonomy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bodily-autonomy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Historical Parallels of the 1970s and Modern News (44:11–47:40)

A review of 1970s headlines reveals striking similarities to modern news cycles, including military conflicts in Southeast Asia, high oil prices, and early instances of gender-reassignment surgery in professional sports. The hosts note the parallels between the 1972 Renee Richards tennis controversy and current debates surrounding transgender athletes. The segment concludes with a look at the economic troubles and energy crises that defined the late 70s.

Keywords: [nixon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nixon.md), [pentagon papers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon-papers.md), renee richards, [oil crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-crisis.md), [jimmy carter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-carter.md), trans-alaskan pipeline

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Biden Administration Requests $33 Billion for Ukraine Aid (47:41–55:11)

President Biden has formally requested $33 billion from Congress for additional aid to Ukraine, including $20.4 billion in military assistance. White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki defended the request, stating that allowing Russia to "run rampant" through Europe would be more costly in the long run. Critics question the lack of a clear definition for victory and the potential for a long-term, open-ended financial commitment.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [military aid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-aid.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [jen psaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jen-psaki.md), [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), 33 billion

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/11.md)

### 12. G20 Finance Meeting Walkout Over Russian Participation (55:12–58:13)

U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen and other finance ministers walked out of a G20 meeting in Washington when the Russian representative began to speak. This protest occurred during the IMF and World Bank spring meetings. The hosts contrast this action with the Biden administration's stated goal of using diplomacy to end the conflict in Ukraine.

Keywords: [janet yellen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janet-yellen.md), [g20](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g20.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [diplomacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diplomacy.md), [treasury department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasury-department.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022 (58:13–1:01:37)

The U.S. Congress passed the Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022, which facilitates the transfer of military equipment to Ukraine. Analysts suggest that Ukraine requires $5 billion to $7 billion per month to sustain its economy during the war. The hosts argue that this financial arrangement will leave Ukraine deeply indebted to the United States, effectively giving the U.S. control over the "breadbasket of Europe."

Keywords: [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), lend-lease act, dimitri alperovitch, black sea blockade, [debt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debt.md), breadbasket of europe

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/13.md)

### 14. NATO Cohesion and EU Policy Shifts During Ukraine Conflict (1:01:38–1:06:01)

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin stated that the U.S. goal is to see Russia weakened so it cannot repeat its invasion of Ukraine. Former NATO official Rose Gottemoeller noted that Vladimir Putin has inadvertently unified the alliance, with Finland and Sweden now considering membership. Meanwhile, the European Union has approved proposals to abolish national vetoes and launch joint armed forces, moves that were previously resisted by member states.

Keywords: [lloyd austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lloyd-austin.md), rose gottemoeller, [nato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nato.md), [finland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/finland.md), [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), joint armed forces

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Allegations of Russian Grain Theft and Global Food Security (1:06:02–1:10:41)

Ukraine's deputy agriculture minister accused Russia of stealing 1.5 million tons of grain from occupied territories. The conflict has disrupted planting and blocked exports from the port of Odessa, leading to fears of a global food crisis. The hosts transition into a discussion on "shrinkflation," using the declining quality and size of Charmin toilet paper as a domestic example of economic pressure.

Keywords: [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), grain theft, [odessa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/odessa.md), [food prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-prices.md), [shrinkflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shrinkflation.md), [charmin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charmin.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Angelina Jolie Visits Lviv and Mariupol Evacuation Efforts (1:10:42–1:16:38)

Actress Angelina Jolie visited a coffee shop in Lviv, Ukraine, to show support for the country. In Mariupol, hundreds of civilians and soldiers remain trapped in the Azovstal steel plant. President Zelenskyy has described the city as a "concentration camp in ruins" and is working with the UN and Turkey to establish evacuation corridors for those holed up in the underground bunkers.

Keywords: [angelina jolie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/angelina-jolie.md), [lviv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lviv.md), [mariupol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mariupol.md), [azovstal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/azovstal.md), [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [volodymyr zelenskyy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volodymyr-zelenskyy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/16.md)

### 17. War Crimes Investigations in Bucha and Moshtun (1:16:40–1:21:27)

Ukrainian prosecutors are investigating thousands of alleged war crimes, including murder and torture in towns like Bucha and Moshtun. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry released the names and photos of ten Russian soldiers, dubbed the "Despicable 10," accused of atrocities. The hosts express skepticism regarding the speed and methods of these identifications, suggesting the reports serve as "trauma-based entertainment."

Keywords: [bucha](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bucha.md), [war crimes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/war-crimes.md), [international criminal court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/international-criminal-court.md), [psychological warfare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychological-warfare.md), despicable 10

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/17.md)

### 18. COVID-19 Health Update and Natural Immunity (1:21:29–1:24:37)

John Dvorak reports that his wife and several family members in the Pacific Northwest have recently tested positive for COVID-19, experiencing malaise, coughs, and severe headaches. Adam Curry discusses his own lack of infection despite being surrounded by sick individuals, speculating on the possibility of long-term immunity from childhood illnesses.

Keywords: [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [natural immunity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/natural-immunity.md), [pacific northwest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pacific-northwest.md), [vitamin d3](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vitamin-d3.md), [symptoms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/symptoms.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Too Many Eggs Cookbook and Social Media Migration (1:24:38–1:28:43)

John Dvorak announces a new cookbook project titled "Too Many Eggs," authored by his wife Mimi, which features thousands of egg recipes. The hosts also discuss the recent influx of users to the Mastodon-based "No Agenda Social" instance following Elon Musk's bid for Twitter. They contrast the open nature of the Fediverse with the "echo chamber" environment of platforms like Truth Social.

Keywords: [cookbook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cookbook.md), [eggs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eggs.md), [publishing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/publishing.md), [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md), [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [truth social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/truth-social.md), [fediverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fediverse.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Episode 1446 Artwork Review and Podcast 2.0 Apps (1:28:44–1:34:02)

The hosts review the listener-submitted artwork for the previous episode, "That 70s Podcast." They select a piece by Moose that references the "Kilroy Was Here" cartoon from World War II. Adam Curry encourages listeners to switch to modern podcast apps available at newpodcastapps.com to support the "Value for Value" model and view enhanced features like chapter art.

Keywords: [podcast art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-art.md), kilroy was here, [moose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moose.md), [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Executive Producer Donations and Knighting Ceremony (1:34:01–1:39:54)

A series of high-value donations are acknowledged, including a $1,000 contribution from "Sir Anonymous of Sarcasmo Island." Other donors include Sir Jack of the Shadows and Sir Laron. A poignant note from Sir Patsy of the Plat requests a knighthood for his son, Elliot (Sir Tax Evasion), and "F-Cancer" karma for a family member battling pancreatic cancer.

Keywords: [donation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [sir anonymous](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sir-anonymous.md), sir jack of the shadows, sir laron, sir tax evasion, [pancreatic cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pancreatic-cancer.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Hungary and Poland's Relationship with the European Union (1:39:55–1:44:46)

A detailed donation note from a producer in Budapest explains the ongoing tension between Hungary and the European Union. The EU is reportedly pressuring member states to accept the European Court of Justice as their highest judicial authority. The producer argues that while Poland has been temporarily spared due to its stance against Russia, Hungary remains a target for "regime change" efforts due to its neutral position and focus on national sovereignty.

Keywords: [hungary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hungary.md), [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md), [viktor orban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viktor-orban.md), [european court of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-court-of-justice.md), [national sovereignty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-sovereignty.md), [refugees](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/refugees.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Associate Executive Producer Credits and Project Veritas (1:44:48–1:49:25)

Sir R. Daniels, a long-time listener and former Goldman Sachs employee, announces his new role as Executive Director at Project Veritas. Adam Curry offers advice to the organization, specifically urging them to improve their professional audio processing to make their undercover recordings more usable for broadcasters. Additional donations from the "roundtable" are read, including contributions from Hereford, Arizona and Paxton, Massachusetts.

Keywords: [project veritas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/project-veritas.md), sir r. daniels, executive director, [audio quality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-quality.md), [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Saddle Tramp Leather and Health Karma Requests (1:49:26–1:53:51)

Jason Allison donates to celebrate his wife Kelly's 33rd birthday and her business, "Soil & Sass." The hosts suggest she expand her leatherwork to include Faraday cage phone cases. Patricia Lewis, a survivor of a ruptured brain aneurysm, contributes a donation and notes that her cognitive abilities have improved following the medical event.

Keywords: [saddle tramp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saddle-tramp.md), leather goods, [faraday cage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faraday-cage.md), [brain aneurysm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brain-aneurysm.md), patricia lewis, soil & sass

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/24.md)

### 25. The "Fisting" Method of Eating Snacks on Airplanes (1:53:52–1:59:44)

A listener requests a replay of John Dvorak's critique of how people eat snacks on airplanes. Dvorak describes the "fisting method," where a passenger pours a pile of nuts into their palm and attempts to eat them through a small hole made by their fingers. The hosts joke about the absurdity of the visual and the lack of traditional snacks on airlines like Southwest.

Keywords: airplane snacks, [peanuts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peanuts.md), [southwest airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/southwest-airlines.md), [etiquette](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/etiquette.md), [humor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/humor.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Value for Value Model and Producer Credits (1:59:44–2:03:20)

The hosts reiterate the "Value for Value" model, thanking producers for their "time, talent, and treasure." They encourage listeners to list their executive producer credits on professional platforms like IMDb and LinkedIn. The segment concludes with a final thank you to the donors who keep the show independent of corporate advertising.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [producer credits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/producer-credits.md), [imdb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imdb.md), [linkedin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linkedin.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [time talent treasure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/time-talent-treasure.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/26.md)

### 27. FDA Proposed Ban on Menthol Cigarettes (2:03:25–2:08:11)

The FDA has proposed a ban on menthol cigarettes, citing data that 85% of Black smokers prefer menthol products. The agency claims the ban could save over 600,000 lives over 40 years. Adam Curry argues that this move is a setup for tobacco companies to transition the market toward new "heat-not-burn" technologies like IQOS, which will likely offer menthol-flavored alternatives once the combustible versions are banned.

Keywords: [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [menthol ban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/menthol-ban.md), [tobacco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tobacco.md), [african americans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/african-americans.md), [iqos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iqos.md), [nicotine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicotine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Texas Families Relocate Over Transgender Healthcare Policies (2:08:12–2:14:57)

NPR reports on families leaving Austin, Texas, due to Governor Greg Abbott's directive to investigate "gender-affirming care" as child abuse. The report features parents of a five-year-old who began expressing gender variance at age two. These families are relocating to states like Colorado to ensure access to medical treatments such as puberty blockers. The hosts express concern over the medicalization of very young children and the influence of a "global infrastructure" promoting these transitions.

Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [greg abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-abbott.md), [transgender](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transgender.md), [puberty blockers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/puberty-blockers.md), [colorado](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado.md), [gender-affirming care](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-affirming-care.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Societal Pressures and Gender Dysphoria in the Netherlands (2:14:58–2:18:38)

Adam Curry shares insights from his daughter Christina regarding the rise of gender dysphoria in the Netherlands. She observes that many young women, struggling with depression exacerbated by COVID-19 lockdowns, are opting for mastectomies and identifying as non-binary. Curry suggests that the medical infrastructure in socialist systems may be encouraging these irreversible decisions without sufficient parental involvement or long-term psychological evaluation.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [gender dysphoria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-dysphoria.md), [mastectomies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastectomies.md), [non-binary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/non-binary.md), [lockdowns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdowns.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Public Transit Workers and the "Belief in the Mask" (2:18:39–2:21:52)

An NPR report features a bus driver who describes the extreme precautions he took during the pandemic, including showering outside to avoid infecting his family. Despite the lifting of mandates, some transit workers express a continued "belief in the mask." The hosts characterize this as a shift from public health to a matter of faith or religious-like conviction.

Keywords: [public transit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-transit.md), [masks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/masks.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [religion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/religion.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), bus drivers

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/30.md)

### 31. CDC Data on Pediatric COVID-19 Antibodies (2:21:52–2:25:55)

The CDC reports that 75% of American children now have COVID-19 antibodies, largely due to the Omicron surge. Despite this high level of natural immunity, the FDA is moving toward authorizing mRNA vaccines for children under five in June 2022. Parents in the reports express frustration over delays, while health officials stress that the primary goal of the vaccine is to prevent severe illness rather than all infections.

Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [antibodies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antibodies.md), [pediatric covid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pediatric-covid.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [moderna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moderna.md), [natural immunity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/natural-immunity.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Anthony Fauci Clarifies "End of Pandemic" Comments (2:25:56–2:30:38)

Dr. Anthony Fauci clarified his recent comments to PBS, stating that while the U.S. is out of the "acute fulminant phase" of the pandemic, the pandemic itself is not over. He noted that the country is transitioning toward "endemicity." Fauci also cited "private health considerations" for his decision to skip the White House Correspondents Dinner, leading to speculation about his future role.

Keywords: [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), pandemic phase, [endemic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/endemic.md), [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [variants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/variants.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Bill Gates Proposes the "GERM" Pandemic Response Team (2:30:39–2:35:43)

During a TED Talk, Bill Gates proposed the creation of a "GERM" (Global Epidemic Response and Mobilization) team. This $1 billion-a-year initiative would consist of 3,000 full-time experts under the WHO tasked with stopping outbreaks within the first 100 days. Gates praised Australia's strict lockdown and quarantine policies as a model for future global responses.

Keywords: [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [ted talk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-talk.md), germ team, pandemic prevention, [world health organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-health-organization.md), [lockdowns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdowns.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Beijing COVID Lockdowns and UK Public Backlog (2:35:44–2:38:17)

Beijing is implementing tighter restrictions to avoid a full-scale lockdown like the one seen in Shanghai, where 25 million people have been confined for over a month. In the UK, a young man named Jamie challenged a panel on the collateral damage of lockdowns, citing a mental health crisis, a 6-million-person NHS backlog, and missed cancer diagnoses.

Keywords: [beijing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beijing.md), [shanghai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shanghai.md), [omicron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/omicron.md), [boris johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boris-johnson.md), [nhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nhs.md), mental health crisis

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Genetic Study on Dog Breed Personalities (2:38:19–2:41:43)

A study published in the journal *Science* claims that a dog's breed has little impact on its individual personality, suggesting that behavioral traits are more a result of environment than genetics. The hosts dismiss the report as "equity-driven propaganda," arguing that centuries of specialized breeding for tasks like herding or guarding clearly result in distinct breed temperaments.

Keywords: dog breeds, [genetics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/genetics.md), [personality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/personality.md), nature vs nurture, [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [equity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/equity.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger Critique Bitcoin (2:41:45–2:50:00)

At the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting, Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger reiterated their strong opposition to Bitcoin. Buffett argued that Bitcoin is not a productive asset, while Munger labeled it "stupid, evil, and foolish," praising China for banning it. The hosts argue that these "elites" fear Bitcoin because it undermines the centralized Federal Reserve system they rely on for control.

Keywords: [warren buffett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/warren-buffett.md), [charlie munger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-munger.md), [berkshire hathaway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berkshire-hathaway.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Democrats Propose FTC Investigation into Gas Prices (2:50:01–2:55:12)

Congressional Democrats have introduced a bill to give the Federal Trade Commission more power to investigate and penalize energy companies for alleged price gouging. Critics argue this is a political gimmick ahead of the midterm elections and a roundabout attempt at price controls. Meanwhile, the World Bank reports that global food prices are 37% higher than a year ago.

Keywords: [ftc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ftc.md), [gas prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gas-prices.md), [inflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inflation.md), [price gouging](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/price-gouging.md), [democrats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democrats.md), [midterms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/midterms.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Listener Donations and Birthday Acknowledgments (2:55:14–3:02:22)

The hosts read a list of donations ranging from $50 to $175, acknowledging producers from Georgia, California, and the Netherlands. They also celebrate several listener birthdays, including a 50th birthday for a fan in the "Lowlands" and a 15th birthday for a producer's daughter, Mackenzie.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [niagara falls](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/niagara-falls.md), [concord](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/concord.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), [jobs karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs-karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Knighting Ceremony for New No Agenda Knights (3:02:23–3:04:10)

Adam Curry and John Dvorak perform a formal knighting ceremony for three producers who contributed $1,000 or more. The new knights are Sir Anonymo of Sarcasmo Island, Sir Tax Evasion, and Sir Otter the Infungible. They are welcomed to the "roundtable" with a traditional list of humorous perks and the promise of a signet ring.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), sir anonymo, sir tax evasion, sir otter the infungible, [signet ring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/signet-ring.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Global No Agenda Meetup Reports (3:04:14–3:10:50)

Audio reports from No Agenda meetups in Central Iowa, North Texas, the Netherlands, and Albuquerque are played. The hosts highlight the strong community bond among listeners and promote upcoming meetups in South Jersey, Nashville, and a special event in Charleston, South Carolina, featuring "Curry and the Keeper."

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [iowa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iowa.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [albuquerque](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/albuquerque.md), [lowlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lowlands.md), [community](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/community.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Show Outro and Schedule Reminder (3:10:52–3:16:14)

The hosts wrap up the episode by selecting the "Clip of the Day" and thanking the producers of the end-of-show mixes. They remind listeners that the next live broadcast on Thursday will occur two hours later than usual, at 1:00 PM Central Time. The show concludes with their traditional sign-off from Texas and Silicon Valley.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), schedule change, [end of show mix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/end-of-show-mix.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [texas hill country](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas-hill-country.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Post-Show Montage on Disinformation and Free Speech (3:16:14–3:21:00)

A closing montage features news clips regarding California's efforts to discipline doctors for "vaccine misinformation" and the controversy surrounding the DHS Disinformation Governance Board. The clips highlight the tension between government efforts to "protect the public" and the preservation of free speech in a democratic society.

Keywords: [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), vaccine misinformation, disinformation board, nina jankowitz, [free speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/free-speech.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1447-g-e-r-m/chapter/42.md)

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