# Lawful but Awful

> A new push for podcast censorship emerges as Florida strips Disney of its self-governing powers and federal courts dismantle the national transportation mask mandate.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1444
- **Published:** 2022-04-21
- **Length:** 3h 8m
- **Topics:** Lawful but Awful, Disney Reedy Creek, CDC Mandate, Glock Auto Sears, Brookings Report, [Ukraine Aid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine-aid.md), [Taylor Lorenz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taylor-lorenz.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful

## About this episode

The Brookings Institution is advocating for stricter podcast content moderation, labeling certain legal speech as "lawful but awful" in a move that could force platforms like Spotify and Apple to implement aggressive reporting mechanisms. This regulatory push coincides with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and state legislators moving to terminate Disney's Reedy Creek Improvement District. The repeal of this special self-governing status follows Disney's public opposition to the Parental Rights in Education bill, signaling a major shift in the relationship between the state and its largest corporate entities.

Global tensions escalate as Vladimir Putin oversees the test launch of a new intercontinental ballistic missile while the United States commits over $4 billion in military aid to Ukraine, including 155mm Howitzers. Despite this influx of weaponry, Defense Department officials admit to having zero fidelity in tracking these assets once they enter the fog of war. Domestically, a federal judge in Florida has overturned the CDC mask mandate for public transportation, ruling that the agency exceeded its regulatory authority. This decision has prompted immediate policy changes from major carriers including American Airlines, Uber, and Lyft.

Journalistic ethics are under fire as the Washington Post and Taylor Lorenz face scrutiny for aggressive reporting tactics and doxing. Meanwhile, the University of Central Florida football team replaced player numbers with QR codes, sparking theories about the normalization of digital tracking. The episode also features a culinary review of yak meat from Desert End Limited in Montrose, Colorado, and a breakdown of the Italian cartoon character Calimero as a metaphor for modern political grievances.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/transcript.md.

### 1. Yak Meat Tasting, Desert End Limited Ranch (0:00–3:36)

John C. Dvorak describes his experience cooking and eating yak meat, comparing its texture and fat content to Wagyu beef. The discussion covers the biological differences of yaks, including their grazing habits and maturity rates, which contribute to the high cost of the product. Dvorak identifies his supplier as Desert End Limited, located in Montrose, Colorado.

Keywords: [yak meat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yak-meat.md), [wagyu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wagyu.md), desert end limited, montrose colorado, dell yaks

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Taylor Lorenz, Washington Post Online Harassment Controversy (3:36–9:09)

The hosts analyze the public controversy surrounding Washington Post journalist Taylor Lorenz and her reports on online harassment. They review a clip of Lorenz discussing her mental health struggles and PTSD, contrasting her public emotional displays with her professional tactics of doxing others. The segment references commentary from Glenn Greenwald and Megan Kelly regarding Lorenz's history of "skin picking" and "hair pulling" disorders.

Keywords: [taylor lorenz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taylor-lorenz.md), [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), [glenn greenwald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-greenwald.md), [megan kelly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/megan-kelly.md), tricotillomania

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Journalistic Ethics, Deadline Pressure Tactics (9:10–12:33)

A discussion on the aggressive tactics used by mainstream journalists at the Washington Post and New York Times when seeking comments from subjects. The hosts describe the "on deadline" pressure tactic used to force immediate responses or justify publishing incomplete stories. They debate whether this practice is a professional courtesy or a manipulative strategy to control narratives.

Keywords: [journalism ethics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism-ethics.md), [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [deadlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deadlines.md), media savvy

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Elon Musk Twitter Takeover, Florida Pension Fund Involvement (12:34–15:10)

Elon Musk's attempt to acquire Twitter via a tender offer is examined alongside the political reactions from the Democratic Party. The segment highlights Florida Governor Ron DeSantis's potential involvement due to the state's pension fund holding Twitter shares. The hosts also criticize the tech podcast "This Week in Startups" for its perceived political bias regarding the acquisition.

Keywords: [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [ron desantis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-desantis.md), florida pension fund, tender offer

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Netflix Subscriber Loss, Ad-Supported Tier Strategy (15:10–19:52)

Netflix stock plummeted 25% following the announcement of its first subscriber loss in over a decade. The company attributed the decline to password sharing, competition, and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, while the hosts argue the platform's "woke" programming is a primary factor. Netflix plans to pivot toward a free, ad-supported tier to recover revenue.

Keywords: [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), [reed hastings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reed-hastings.md), [streaming services](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/streaming-services.md), password sharing, woke content

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Spotify Exclusive Deals, Obama Podcast Contract Ending (19:53–23:23)

Barack and Michelle Obama's production company, Higher Ground, is reportedly ending its exclusive deal with Spotify to seek a non-exclusive distribution model. The hosts discuss the failure of the Obamas' podcasts to generate significant advertising revenue compared to Joe Rogan. They predict a broader collapse of mainstream streaming models in favor of over-the-air (OTA) digital signals.

Keywords: [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [michelle obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michelle-obama.md), higher ground, [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Glock Auto Sear Switches, Chinese Manufacturing Influx (23:23–28:39)

The rise of "auto sear" switches, which convert semi-automatic Glock pistols into fully automatic weapons, is discussed as a major law enforcement concern. These $20 devices are reportedly being mass-produced in China and shipped into the United States. The hosts debate the role of Chinese manufacturing in the proliferation of these illegal conversion kits.

Keywords: [glock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glock.md), auto sear, switches, [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), bureau of alcohol tobacco firearms

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Federal Mask Mandate Overturned, CDC Regulatory Authority (28:40–39:09)

A federal judge in Florida ruled that the CDC exceeded its regulatory authority by imposing a mask mandate on public transportation. The Department of Justice has filed an appeal at the CDC's request to preserve the agency's future public health powers. The discussion touches on previous Supreme Court rulings that limited the CDC's ability to ban evictions.

Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [federal judge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-judge.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [mask mandate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mask-mandate.md), [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Flight Attendant Union, Airline Mask Policy Reactions (39:09–44:53)

The president of the Association of Flight Attendants is featured in a clip discussing the industry's reaction to the lifting of the federal mask mandate. While some crews expressed relief, the union representative highlighted the ongoing split among passengers and staff. The hosts criticize the union's stance and the "politicization" of safety measures on aircraft.

Keywords: sara nelson, [flight attendants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flight-attendants.md), [cnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnbc.md), [mask mandate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mask-mandate.md), [airline safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airline-safety.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Nolichek Meats, USDA Masking Lawsuit Victory (44:54–47:42)

The Nolichek family of Nolichek Meats in Thorpe, Wisconsin, successfully challenged a USDA notice that threatened to withhold federal inspections if employees did not wear masks. The USDA rescinded the notice before the case reached a final court ruling, which the hosts characterize as a victory for small producers against federal overreach.

Keywords: nolichek meats, [usda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usda.md), [wisconsin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wisconsin.md), [fsis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fsis.md), [mask mandate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mask-mandate.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Uber and Lyft, Rideshare Masking Requirements (47:43–49:22)

Uber and Lyft have officially dropped their masking requirements for both drivers and passengers in the United States. A report from KQED features a Bay Area driver's perspective on the change, highlighting the shift in safety concerns post-vaccination. The hosts mock the lingering debate over mask effectiveness.

Keywords: [uber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uber.md), [lyft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lyft.md), [rideshare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rideshare.md), [bay area](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bay-area.md), [kqed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kqed.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Captain Bob Snow, Pilot Cardiac Arrest Incident (49:24–52:39)

Captain Bob Snow, an American Airlines pilot, recorded a video from an ICU in Dallas after suffering a cardiac arrest six minutes after landing a flight. Snow attributes the medical emergency to the COVID-19 vaccine he was mandated to receive to keep his job. The hosts discuss the implications for pilot safety and FAA medical criteria.

Keywords: bob snow, [american airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-airlines.md), [cardiac arrest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cardiac-arrest.md), [vaccine mandate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-mandate.md), [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Moderna Bivalent Booster, Chronic COVID Immune Issues (52:40–56:04)

Moderna is developing a new "bivalent" booster shot designed to target both the original COVID-19 strain and the Beta variant. The hosts discuss reports of rising hepatitis cases and "AIDS-like" immune system degradation in highly vaccinated populations like Australia and New Zealand. They express skepticism regarding the long-term safety of mRNA technology.

Keywords: [moderna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moderna.md), [bivalent booster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bivalent-booster.md), [omicron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/omicron.md), [hepatitis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hepatitis.md), immune deficiency

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/13.md)

### 14. SmartLess Podcast, Sean Hayes COVID Testing Anecdote (56:06–1:00:46)

The hosts critique an episode of the "SmartLess" podcast where actor Sean Hayes describes a frustrating experience trying to get a mandatory COVID-19 test for a Broadway performance. They argue the actors are missing the "communist nature" of the bureaucracy and QR code procedures they are forced to follow in New York City.

Keywords: smartless, sean hayes, jason bateman, will arnett, [covid testing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-testing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/14.md)

### 15. UCF Football QR Codes, Pandemic Political Strategy (1:00:47–1:04:05)

The University of Central Florida (UCF) football team replaced player numbers with QR codes on their jerseys during a spring game. This leads to a discussion on the normalization of digital tracking and a theory that political strategists may attempt to trigger a "pandemic redo" to influence the upcoming midterm elections via mail-in ballots.

Keywords: ucf football, [qr codes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qr-codes.md), [midterms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/midterms.md), [mail-in ballots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mail-in-ballots.md), [pandemic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pandemic.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Cyber Pandemic Warnings, CrowdStrike and Russian Threats (1:04:06–1:09:11)

A "60 Minutes" segment featuring CrowdStrike co-founder Dmitry Alperovitch warns of potential Russian cyber attacks on U.S. infrastructure, including the energy and banking sectors. The hosts question Alperovitch's background and the narrative that Russian hackers are uniquely dangerous, citing past mistakes in attacks on Saudi Arabian refineries.

Keywords: [crowdstrike](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crowdstrike.md), dmitry alperovitch, [60 minutes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/60-minutes.md), [putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/putin.md), [cyber attack](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cyber-attack.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Pipe Dream Malware, SCADA System Vulnerabilities (1:09:11–1:12:42)

The U.S. government issued a warning regarding "Pipe Dream," a sophisticated malware targeting industrial control systems (SCADA) in North America. Producers for the show provide technical analysis suggesting the code may have American origins. The discussion references the "Stuxnet" attack on Iran as evidence of long-standing government involvement in industrial sabotage.

Keywords: pipe dream, [malware](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malware.md), [scada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scada.md), [plc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plc.md), [stuxnet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stuxnet.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/17.md)

### 18. No Agenda Social, Fediverse and Mastodon (1:12:43–1:16:29)

The hosts discuss the utility of their Mastodon instance, No Agenda Social, as a decentralized alternative to mainstream social media. They credit the community for providing early information on topics like Glock switches. The segment explains the open-source nature of the Fediverse and the show's policy on purging inactive accounts.

Keywords: [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md), [fediverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fediverse.md), [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Episode 1443 Artwork, Tante Neel Calimero Reference (1:16:29–1:24:00)

The hosts review the producer-submitted artwork for episode 1443, specifically a piece by Tante Neel featuring Joe Biden with an eggshell on his head. Adam Curry explains the cultural reference to the Italian cartoon character Calimero. They also provide a critique of other submissions, debating the merits of "overproduced" versus "avant-garde" styles.

Keywords: [tante neel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tante-neel.md), calimero, [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [album art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/album-art.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Brookings Institution, Podcast Content Moderation Report (1:24:00–1:26:40)

The Brookings Institution released a paper recommending stricter content moderation for podcasts, categorizing certain legal speech as "lawful but awful." The report suggests that major apps like Spotify and Apple need to develop more robust reporting mechanisms. Adam Curry urges listeners to switch to independent Podcasting 2.0 apps to avoid future de-platforming.

Keywords: [brookings institution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brookings-institution.md), [content moderation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/content-moderation.md), [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [apple podcasts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-podcasts.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Executive Producer Jeremy Slate, Command Your Brand (1:26:41–1:31:34)

Jeremy Slate is knighted as Sir Jeremy Slate after a $900 donation. He discusses his PR agency, "Command Your Brand," and his upcoming book "Unremarkable to Extraordinary." The segment includes a "de-douching" for a producer in Western Pennsylvania and a discussion on the "wokeness" infecting the tech sector in Cleveland and Pittsburgh.

Keywords: jeremy slate, command your brand, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [pennsylvania](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pennsylvania.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Donor Credits, Jobs Karma and Seed Man (1:31:35–1:37:09)

The hosts process various donations, including a $333.33 contribution from "Umami Mama" who recently read Atlas Shrugged. They distribute "Jobs Karma" in response to Federal Reserve policies and mention a 420-themed radio appearance by Adam Curry. A promotion for Ebulls CBD is included as part of the value-for-value exchange.

Keywords: [janet yellen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janet-yellen.md), [atlas shrugged](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atlas-shrugged.md), [jobs karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs-karma.md), [420](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/420.md), ebulls cbd

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Zine Culture, Anonymous Shanghai Donation (1:37:10–1:42:26)

A producer from Portsmouth, Virginia, compares the No Agenda model to 1980s zine culture, specifically "Maximum Rock and Roll." An anonymous donor from Shanghai, currently under lockdown, sends a bank transfer and requests a classic clip titled "The Grouser." The hosts reflect on their long history of produced show intros and movie trailers.

Keywords: zine, maximum rock and roll, [shanghai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shanghai.md), [bank transfer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-transfer.md), the grouser

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Associate Executive Producers, Birthday and Anniversary Credits (1:42:26–1:50:29)

The hosts thank several Associate Executive Producers, including Sir Steve from Australia and Brian Skelton from Cedar Park. The segment features multiple "switcheroo" donations where credits are transferred to family members, such as Nico Torres in Miami Beach and Tammy Collins in Missouri. Plans for a live meetup in Charleston, South Carolina, are also mentioned.

Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [charleston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charleston.md), [miami beach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami-beach.md), [switcheroo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/switcheroo.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/24.md)

### 25. World Wildlife Fund, Insect Consumption in Schools (1:50:29–1:55:15)

A school worksheet from the Netherlands, reportedly sponsored by the World Wildlife Fund, encourages third-grade students to color insects and draw a "scrumptious" insect sandwich. The hosts view this as a propaganda effort by globalist organizations to normalize the consumption of bugs as a protein source.

Keywords: [world wildlife fund](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-wildlife-fund.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [insects](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insects.md), [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md), [bugs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bugs.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Ukraine Military Aid, Azovstal Steel Plant Mystery (1:55:25–1:59:02)

The U.S. has committed over $4 billion in military aid to Ukraine, including 155mm Howitzers and artillery rounds. The hosts question the "black hole" of weapons tracking and focus on the strategic importance of the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol. They speculate on why Russian forces have not flattened the facility despite the presence of Ukrainian holdouts.

Keywords: [mariupol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mariupol.md), [azovstal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/azovstal.md), [howitzers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howitzers.md), [military aid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-aid.md), [weapons smuggling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weapons-smuggling.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Gonzalo Lira Missing, Weapons Tracking Fog of War (1:59:05–2:01:53)

Chilean-American journalist Gonzalo Lira has reportedly gone missing in Kharkov after criticizing the Zelensky regime. Meanwhile, Defense Department officials admit to having "zero" fidelity in tracking weapons once they enter the "fog of war" in Ukraine. The hosts discuss the possibility of these weapons entering the black market.

Keywords: gonzalo lira, kharkov, [zelensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zelensky.md), [defense department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/defense-department.md), weapons tracking

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Russian ICBM Test, Ukrainian Heavy Weaponry Training (2:01:54–2:03:31)

Vladimir Putin oversaw the test launch of a new intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) as a warning to Western nations. Simultaneously, the U.S. is training Ukrainian forces in neighboring countries to operate heavy artillery. The hosts contrast the conventional weaponry being sent to Ukraine with Russia's nuclear posturing.

Keywords: [icbm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icbm.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [howitzers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/howitzers.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [eastern ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eastern-ukraine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Global Citizen, Stand Up For Ukraine Pledges (2:03:34–2:07:52)

The "Stand Up For Ukraine" campaign, organized by Global Citizen and the European Union, has reportedly raised 9.1 billion euros in pledges. EU President Ursula von der Leyen announced the funds are intended for refugees and internally displaced persons. The hosts question the transparency of these globalist fundraising efforts and their link to a predicted food crisis.

Keywords: [global citizen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-citizen.md), [ursula von der leyen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ursula-von-der-leyen.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [refugees](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/refugees.md), [food crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/food-crisis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Malcolm Nance, International Legion in Ukraine (2:07:53–2:14:00)

Former MSNBC contributor Malcolm Nance appeared on the network in full combat gear, claiming to have joined the International Legion in Ukraine. The hosts analyze Nance's background in naval cryptology and his "Terror Asymmetrics Project," suggesting his involvement is a form of "spook LARPing." They also note his mention of friends at the Defense Language Institute.

Keywords: [malcolm nance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malcolm-nance.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), international legion, [joy reid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joy-reid.md), [spooks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spooks.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Malcolm Nance MSNBC Interview, Cruise Missile Incident (2:14:01–2:18:10)

During a live interview with Joy Reid, Malcolm Nance reacted to what he claimed were Russian cruise missiles flying overhead. The hosts scrutinize the footage, noting the lack of visible missiles in the sky and Nance's dramatic commands. They compare the segment to a video game and question the authenticity of the reporting.

Keywords: [malcolm nance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malcolm-nance.md), [joy reid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joy-reid.md), [cruise missiles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cruise-missiles.md), caliber, [lviv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lviv.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Maxine Waters, Volunteer Trips to Ukraine (2:18:11–2:22:57)

Representative Maxine Waters expressed support for U.S. officials volunteering to visit Ukraine, though she warned that Putin might try to kill President Biden if he visited. The hosts discuss the "Putin Price Hike" narrative used by the administration to explain inflation. They also briefly mention ongoing riots involving Muslim migrants in Sweden.

Keywords: [maxine waters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maxine-waters.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [putin price hike](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/putin-price-hike.md), [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [riots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/riots.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Ukrainian Offensive, Military Optimism in Odessa (2:22:57–2:24:47)

President Zelensky claims the Ukrainian army has proven itself superior to the Russian military, leading to reports that Ukraine may soon launch a counter-offensive. An NPR report from Odessa suggests that U.S. military aid packages are fueling this optimism. The hosts remain skeptical of the official military narratives coming from the region.

Keywords: [odessa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/odessa.md), [zelensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zelensky.md), offensive, [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [military strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-strategy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/33.md)

### 34. NPR Native Ad, Taco Bell Mexican Pizza (2:24:48–2:30:57)

The hosts identify a two-minute segment on NPR about the return of Taco Bell's Mexican Pizza as a "native ad." The piece features comedian Rima Parikh discussing the item's popularity among South Asian Americans. The hosts argue the segment's precise timing and promotional content violate NPR's traditional journalistic standards.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [taco bell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taco-bell.md), mexican pizza, rima parikh, [native advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/native-advertising.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/34.md)

### 35. NPR Non Sequitur, World's Oldest Chihuahua (2:30:58–2:33:23)

A short NPR report on a 21-year-old Florida Chihuahua named Toby Keith is criticized for its lack of substance. The hosts point out that the story opens with a proverb about teaching old dogs "new tricks" but fails to mention any tricks the dog performed. They cite this as an example of declining material quality at the network.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), chihuahua, toby keith, [guinness world records](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/guinness-world-records.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Donor Thank Yous, Meetup Announcements (2:33:25–2:39:13)

The hosts read a long list of $100 and $50 donors, including Sir Kevin McLaughlin and Sir Patrick Coble. Coble is tasked with overseeing upcoming No Agenda meetups in Seattle, Charlotte, and Denver. The segment includes birthday shout-outs for various producers and their family members across the United States and Europe.

Keywords: [charlotte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlotte.md), [seattle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seattle.md), [denver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denver.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Curry Family Reunion, Sunday Show Delay (2:39:13–2:43:05)

Adam Curry announces a trip to New York for a family reunion and the interment of his father, who passed away in 2019. Due to the travel and family events, the Sunday episode of No Agenda will be delayed by several hours. Darren O'Neill is expected to provide a four-hour "rock and roll pre-show" to fill the gap on the live stream.

Keywords: [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md), [curry family](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/curry-family.md), [airbnb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbnb.md), [live stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/live-stream.md), [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Knighthood Ceremony, Jeremy Slate and Brian Skelton (2:43:06–2:46:54)

Jeremy Slate and Brian Skelton are officially knighted as Sir Jeremy Slate and Sir Brian Skelton. The hosts perform the traditional ceremony, granting them access to the "No Agenda Round Table" and its associated perks. The new knights are instructed to visit the show's website to claim their signet rings and certificates of authenticity.

Keywords: jeremy slate, brian skelton, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [signet ring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/signet-ring.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Regional Meetup Reports, Fresno and North Carolina (2:46:59–2:49:00)

The hosts review reports from recent meetups, including the "Resist We Much" gathering in Fresno, California. They announce a schedule of upcoming events in Youngsville, North Carolina; Long Beach, California; and Albuquerque, New Mexico. Listeners are encouraged to visit the meetup website to find or start local chapters.

Keywords: [fresno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fresno.md), youngsville, [charlotte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlotte.md), [albuquerque](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/albuquerque.md), [longview](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/longview.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/39.md)

### 40. ISO Selection, Adam Curry and Horowitz Feud (2:49:01–2:51:45)

The hosts select "In Search Of" (ISO) audio clips for future use, focusing on dramatic or humorous soundbites from the episode. They also address a perceived "fake feud" between Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak's co-host on "DH Unplugged," Andrew Horowitz. Curry jokingly claims Horowitz hung up on him during a recent interaction.

Keywords: [iso](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iso.md), [horowitz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/horowitz.md), [dh unplugged](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dh-unplugged.md), podcast feud, [audio clips](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-clips.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Disney Reedy Creek District, Florida Special Status Repeal (2:51:48–2:56:57)

Governor Ron DeSantis and the Florida legislature are moving to terminate the Reedy Creek Improvement District, a special self-governing status held by Disney since 1967. State Representative Spencer Roach explains that the move aims to end Disney's "anti-free market" advantages. The hosts argue that Disney's political meddling in the "Parental Rights in Education" bill triggered this regulatory retaliation.

Keywords: [ron desantis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-desantis.md), [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md), reedy creek, florida legislature, special districts

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Jen Psaki, Parental Rights Bill Emotional Reaction (2:57:00–3:03:11)

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki is featured in a clip expressing emotional distress over Florida's "Parental Rights in Education" law. The hosts criticize her characterization of the bill as "cruel" and "harsh," arguing that she is misrepresenting the legislation for political purposes. They suggest Psaki is "cracking" under the pressure of her role.

Keywords: [jen psaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jen-psaki.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [parental rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parental-rights.md), [don't say gay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/don-t-say-gay.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Outro, Joe Biden Audio Montage (3:03:14–3:08:22)

The hosts sign off from the Texas Hill Country and Silicon Valley, reminding listeners of the delayed Sunday show. The episode concludes with a produced audio montage featuring clips of Joe Biden making controversial remarks about women and children, interspersed with his warnings about the onset of World War III.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [world war iii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-iii.md), [texas hill country](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas-hill-country.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [sign-off](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sign-off.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1444-lawful-but-awful/chapter/43.md)

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