# The Learning Curve > A landmark 1400th episode deconstructs the legal fallout in Kenosha, the return of European lockdowns, and the corporate push for synthetic meat alternatives. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 1400 - **Published:** 2021-11-18 - **Length:** 3h 58m - **Topics:** Rittenhouse Trial, Pfizer Data, Smallpox Vials, [Build Back Better](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/build-back-better.md), [Gitmo Nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [Synthetic Meat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/synthetic-meat.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve ## About this episode Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the 1400th episode of the No Agenda show by deconstructing the Kyle Rittenhouse trial and the media's role in jury intimidation. Constitutional lawyer Alan Dershowitz analyzes the legal hurdles for self-defense convictions while MSNBC faces a courtroom ban after a freelancer allegedly followed the jury bus. The hosts credit the Gitmo Nation producer community for sustaining the program through the value-for-value model. European nations including Austria and Germany move toward strict lockdowns and vaccine mandates as health officials warn of a winter surge. In the United States, OSHA officially suspends the Biden administration's employer vaccine mandate following a federal court order, yet California health officials bypass FDA guidance to authorize boosters for all adults. Meanwhile, the FDA requests a delay until 2076 to release Pfizer trial data, and the FBI investigates smallpox vials discovered at a Merck facility in Pennsylvania. Jen Psaki faces mockery for her unusual spinach breakfast comments and her defense of the Build Back Better bill's impact on inflation. The segment features a comedic failure from Laura Ingraham regarding the Netflix show You and a retrospective on the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Adam Curry also shares his AM radio audio engineering secrets with former reporter Allison Morrow. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/transcript.md. ### 1. No Agenda Episode 1400, Global Producer Community (0:00–3:31) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the 1400th episode of the No Agenda show, broadcasting from Texas and Silicon Valley. They credit the "Gitmo Nation" producer community for sustaining the program through the value-for-value model rather than traditional advertising. The hosts reflect on the show's longevity and the diverse expertise provided by their global network of listeners. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [fema region 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema-region-6.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Kyle Rittenhouse Trial, Kenosha Jury Tampering Concerns (3:30–6:43) The jury deliberations in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial face scrutiny regarding potential intimidation and the lack of sequestration. Reports indicate threats against jurors have surfaced on social media, leading to concerns about a hung jury as a safety measure for participants. Reverend Al Sharpton is criticized for a verbal slip during a news appearance where he mistakenly referred to Kenosha as Kinshasa. Keywords: [kyle rittenhouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kyle-rittenhouse.md), [kenosha](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kenosha.md), [wisconsin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wisconsin.md), jury tampering, [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Joy Reid, White Tears and Racial Commentary (6:44–9:00) MSNBC host Joy Reid faces criticism for her commentary regarding "white tears" and vigilantism during the Rittenhouse trial. Reid compared the defendant's emotional testimony to the Brett Kavanaugh Supreme Court confirmation hearings. The discussion notes Reid's personal background as the daughter of immigrants from Ghana and the Congo while analyzing her perspective on American racial dynamics. Keywords: [joy reid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joy-reid.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [brett kavanaugh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brett-kavanaugh.md), [christine blasey ford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christine-blasey-ford.md), [vigilantism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vigilantism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/3.md) ### 4. MTV Networks Legal Dispute, Adam Curry Domain Name Case (9:01–12:10) A host recounts a 1994 legal battle with MTV Networks over the registration of the mtv.com domain name. The story details the discovery process involving the retrieval of emails from floppy disks and the psychological pressure of being portrayed negatively by corporate prosecutors. The experience is used to illustrate how legal teams can manipulate facts to influence a jury's perception. Keywords: mtv networks, [mtv.com](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv-com.md), [domain names](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domain-names.md), [discovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/discovery.md), [litigation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/litigation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Alan Dershowitz Analysis, Rittenhouse Self-Defense Claims (12:10–14:29) Constitutional lawyer Alan Dershowitz provides an analysis of the Rittenhouse case, noting the distinction between the prosecution's focus on the defendant's presence at the protest and the defense's focus on the specific moments of the shooting. Dershowitz suggests that while the jury may find the defendant's actions irresponsible, the legal standard for self-defense remains the primary hurdle for a conviction. Keywords: [alan dershowitz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alan-dershowitz.md), [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md), [black lives matter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-lives-matter.md), [self-defense](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/self-defense.md), [kenosha](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kenosha.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Network Morning Show Review, Lin-Manuel Miranda and Paul McCartney (14:30–18:01) The 3x3 segment reviews morning broadcasts from ABC, CBS, and NBC, highlighting a fawning interview with Lin-Manuel Miranda regarding his directorial debut. Other featured stories include Dwyane Wade discussing fatherhood and a new book about Paul McCartney's lyrics titled The Lyrics Closet. The hosts characterize the network content as repetitive and promotional. Keywords: [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [cbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs.md), [abc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc.md), [lin-manuel miranda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lin-manuel-miranda.md), [paul mccartney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-mccartney.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/6.md) ### 7. ABC Steals and Deals, QR Code Shopping Integration (18:02–22:30) ABC's Good Morning America is noted for its increasing use of long-distance QR codes during the "Steals and Deals" segment. The branding is shifting toward "GMA Deals," effectively turning the morning news program into a home shopping platform. The hosts suggest that networks should fully embrace the shopping channel model to increase revenue and viewer engagement. Keywords: [abc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc.md), steals and deals, [qr codes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qr-codes.md), gma deals, home shopping [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/7.md) ### 8. European COVID-19 Surge, Gibraltar and Ireland Vaccination Data (22:30–26:59) Health officials warn of a COVID-19 surge in Europe, citing waning immunity and relaxed mitigation measures. Data from Gibraltar and Ireland is analyzed, showing high rates of infection despite nearly universal vaccination of the adult population. The discussion questions the logic of continued mandates when hospitalizations are split evenly between vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals. Keywords: [europe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/europe.md), [gibraltar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gibraltar.md), [ireland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ireland.md), [delta variant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-variant.md), waning immunity [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/8.md) ### 9. China COVID-19 Restrictions, Wuhan Testing and Animal Welfare (26:59–30:15) China implements strict travel restrictions and mass testing for 11 million people in Wuhan following a Delta variant outbreak. Reports indicate the use of thousands of quarantine rooms and harsh enforcement measures. A viral video showing a COVID-19 worker killing a pet Corgi in an apartment complex has sparked significant public outrage across Chinese social media. Keywords: [wuhan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan.md), [beijing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beijing.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [delta variant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-variant.md), [quarantine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quarantine.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/9.md) ### 10. 2014 Flu H1N1 Retrospective, Rhode Island Health Warnings (30:16–32:37) A retrospective clip from 2014 features Rhode Island Health Director Dr. Michael Fine warning the public about the H1N1 swine flu virus. The rhetoric used to encourage immunization and describe the severity of flu symptoms is compared to modern COVID-19 messaging. The hosts note the similarities in how health officials attempt to maintain public concern through descriptive symptom profiles. Keywords: [rhode island](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rhode-island.md), [h1n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h1n1.md), [swine flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swine-flu.md), dr. michael fine, [immunization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immunization.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/10.md) ### 11. European Lockdown Measures, Austria and Germany Vaccine Mandates (32:38–37:21) Austria announces a lockdown specifically targeting the unvaccinated, with police authorized to check papers in public spaces. Germany considers similar "1G" or "2G" restrictions as hospitalizations rise. UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson indicates that the definition of "fully vaccinated" will likely evolve to require booster shots to maintain freedom of movement. Keywords: [austria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austria.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [lockdown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdown.md), [vaccine passports](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-passports.md), [boris johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boris-johnson.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Victoria Australia Reopening, Dan Andrews Political Strategy (37:22–39:50) Premier Dan Andrews lifts most COVID-19 restrictions in Victoria, Australia, for vaccinated residents while seeking expanded emergency powers through 2023. Prime Minister Scott Morrison calls for governments to step back and allow citizens to reclaim their lives. The sudden shift in policy is viewed as a political maneuver to appease the public during legislative battles. Keywords: [victoria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [dan andrews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-andrews.md), [scott morrison](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-morrison.md), [lockdown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdown.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/12.md) ### 13. OSHA Vaccine Mandate Suspension, Federal Court Rulings (39:50–41:42) OSHA officially suspends the implementation and enforcement of the Biden administration's vaccine mandate for businesses with 100 or more employees following a federal court order. Despite this suspension, many corporations continue to enforce internal mandates. The hosts suggest that companies may face legal liability if they continue to require vaccination as a condition of employment without federal backing. Keywords: [osha](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/osha.md), [biden administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biden-administration.md), [vaccine mandate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-mandate.md), [federal court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-court.md), [ets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ets.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Vaccine Liability History, Reagan Era Legislation and RFK Jr. (41:42–45:59) Robert F. Kennedy Jr. explains the historical origins of vaccine manufacturer liability protection during an interview with Tucker Carlson. The 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed after insurance companies refused to cover manufacturers due to high injury rates from the DTP vaccine. The legislation established that vaccines are "unavoidably unsafe," granting companies blanket immunity from lawsuits. Keywords: [robert f. kennedy jr.](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-f-kennedy-jr.md), [ronald reagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ronald-reagan.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [liability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liability.md), vaccine act [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/14.md) ### 15. ICD-10 Code Z28.20, Insurance Tracking of Unvaccinated Patients (46:00–47:44) A new medical billing code, ICD-10 Z28.20, has been introduced to track patients who decide not to be immunized for unspecified reasons. This code allows insurance companies and healthcare providers to flag individuals in their permanent records. The hosts express concern that this data will be used to marginalize or penalize those who refuse the COVID-19 vaccine. Keywords: [icd-10](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icd-10.md), [insurance codes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance-codes.md), [billing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/billing.md), vaccine denier, [medical records](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-records.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/15.md) ### 16. NPR Booster Promotion, MSNBC Rittenhouse Court Ban (47:47–52:01) NPR features segments promoting booster shots for all adults, citing data from Israel and the UK to justify the expanded rollout. Simultaneously, a judge bans MSNBC from the Kyle Rittenhouse courtroom after a freelancer was caught following the jury bus. The incident is characterized as an attempt at jury intimidation by the media outlet. Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [boosters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boosters.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [kyle rittenhouse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kyle-rittenhouse.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/16.md) ### 17. California Booster Rollout, FDA Approval Logic (52:02–55:20) California health officials authorize COVID-19 boosters for all adults, bypassing formal FDA guidance in response to rising transmission rates. The hosts compare this "jump ahead" strategy to the tech industry's "learning curve" pricing models. Despite high vaccination rates and strict mask mandates, California continues to see significant case increases. Keywords: [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [boosters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boosters.md), [dodger stadium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dodger-stadium.md), learning curve [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/17.md) ### 18. FDA Pfizer Data Lawsuit, 2076 Release Timeline (55:22–59:59) The FDA requests a federal judge's permission to delay the full release of Pfizer's vaccine trial data until the year 2076. The agency claims it can only process 500 pages per month of the 329,000-page document cache. This delay is compared to "document dumping" tactics used in corporate litigation to overwhelm opponents and hide relevant information. Keywords: [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [foia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/foia.md), [lawsuit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lawsuit.md), [transparency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/transparency.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Opioid Crisis, Fentanyl Surges and Sackler Family Settlements (1:00:00–1:04:50) The U.S. records over 100,000 drug overdose deaths in a 12-month period, driven largely by synthetic fentanyl. While the Sackler family and Purdue Pharma face fines for their role in the OxyContin epidemic, critics argue the focus on them distracts from other major manufacturers like Johnson & Johnson. NPR reports emphasize Mexican drug cartels and pandemic disruptions as primary drivers of the surge. Keywords: [sackler family](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sackler-family.md), [purdue pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/purdue-pharma.md), [oxycontin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oxycontin.md), [fentanyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fentanyl.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Moderna Patent Dispute, NIH Researcher Credits (1:04:52–1:08:08) Moderna is involved in a legal dispute with the National Institutes of Health (NIH) over patent credits for the COVID-19 vaccine. The conflict centers on whether government researchers should be listed as co-inventors, which would grant them a share of the royalties. Meanwhile, Moderna seeks emergency use authorization for its booster shot for all adults. Keywords: [moderna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moderna.md), [nih](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nih.md), [patents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patents.md), [covid-19 vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19-vaccine.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Jicker Study Fraud, Rockefeller Foundation Lockstep Scenario (1:08:09–1:11:00) The "Jicker Study," a simple letter to the editor in the New England Journal of Medicine, was used by the FDA to claim OxyContin had an addiction rate of less than 1%. This pattern of using non-peer-reviewed letters to establish scientific consensus is compared to the early dismissal of the Wuhan lab leak theory. The hosts also reference the 2010 Rockefeller Foundation "Lockstep" paper as a blueprint for current global pandemic responses. Keywords: jicker study, [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [rockefeller foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rockefeller-foundation.md), [lockstep](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockstep.md), [wuhan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Smallpox Vials Discovery, Merck Facility Investigation (1:11:15–1:15:15) The FBI and CDC investigate the discovery of several vials labeled "smallpox" at a Merck facility in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. Smallpox was declared eradicated in 1980 and is officially stored only at the CDC in Atlanta and a lab in Russia. A similar discovery of vials occurred in 2014 at an NIH storage room, raising questions about the security of deadly pathogens. Keywords: [smallpox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/smallpox.md), [merck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/merck.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [pennsylvania](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pennsylvania.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Media Grant Funding (1:15:16–1:18:39) A report details millions of dollars in grants provided by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to major media organizations, including NPR, The Guardian, and the BBC. The funding is viewed as a method for Gates to influence global health messaging and ensure favorable coverage of his initiatives. The list includes diverse outlets ranging from NBC Universal to Al Jazeera. Keywords: [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [the guardian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-guardian.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Klaus Schwab and Charlie Rose, Transhumanism Discussion (1:18:40–1:21:08) A 2015 interview clip features Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum discussing the ethical implications of gene editing and CRISPR technology with Charlie Rose. Schwab suggests that the Fourth Industrial Revolution will change what it means to be human. The discussion touches on the potential for technology to exacerbate unemployment through automation and robotics. Keywords: [klaus schwab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/klaus-schwab.md), [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md), [world economic forum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-economic-forum.md), [crispr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crispr.md), [gene editing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gene-editing.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Abby Martin RT Departure, Net Neutrality Victory (1:21:10–1:25:55) The hosts revisit the 700th episode of No Agenda, which coincided with Abby Martin's departure from RT. Martin celebrated "net neutrality" as her greatest victory, which the hosts argue was actually a move to allow ISPs to quash "illegal" traffic like BitTorrent. The retrospective highlights the shift in independent media and the perceived naivety of early internet activism. Keywords: [abby martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abby-martin.md), [rt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rt.md), [breaking the set](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/breaking-the-set.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [bittorrent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bittorrent.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Sudden Cardiac Arrest in Athletes, New York Legislation (1:25:56–1:32:30) New York State passes legislation requiring schools to monitor student athletes for signs of sudden cardiac arrest. The law follows an increase in reports of heart issues among young people, which some attribute to vaccine-induced myocarditis. Private companies like "My Heart Check" are now offering mobile screenings at schools to address these concerns. Keywords: sudden cardiac arrest, [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md), jim goran, [myocarditis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/myocarditis.md), [student athletes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/student-athletes.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Decentralized Media, No Agenda Social and Mastodon (1:32:31–1:34:49) The hosts discuss the importance of decentralized social media platforms like Mastodon and the No Agenda Social instance. They contrast their long-standing decentralized infrastructure with recent efforts by mainstream podcasters like Tim Pool and Joe Rogan to discuss decentralization. The No Agenda community is highlighted as a model for resisting platform censorship. Keywords: [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md), [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [decentralization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/decentralization.md), [tim pool](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-pool.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Austin Podcaster Meetup, Tim Pool RV Discussion (1:34:49–1:39:39) A recent gathering of high-profile podcasters in Tim Pool's RV in Austin, Texas, is critiqued for its lack of structure and potential for media smearing. The meeting included Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, and Michael Malice. The hosts argue that such unorganized "outrage" summits are less productive than the structured media deconstruction performed on No Agenda. Keywords: [tim pool](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tim-pool.md), [alex jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-jones.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [michael malice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-malice.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Episode 1400 Artwork, Podcast 2.0 Chapter Images (1:39:39–1:45:04) The hosts review the album artwork submissions for Episode 1400, including a winning piece by Nice Fox featuring a Looney Tunes theme with President Biden. They discuss the rules for show art, such as avoiding host images, and the implementation of dynamic chapter images through Podcast 2.0 apps. The "Biden Inflation" and "CUD Survivor" pieces are highlighted for their humor and relevance. Keywords: [podcast 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-2-0.md), [album art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/album-art.md), nice fox, biden inflation, [dreb scott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dreb-scott.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Laura Ingraham and "You" Netflix Gag (1:45:05–1:50:36) A viral clip from Fox News features Laura Ingraham and a guest in a real-life "Who's on First" routine regarding the Netflix show titled "You." Ingraham appears genuinely confused when the guest mentions a vaccine storyline on the show "You," thinking he is referring to her personally. The hosts analyze the segment as a classic comedic failure in cable news. Keywords: [laura ingraham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/laura-ingraham.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), you, [abbott and costello](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abbott-and-costello.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Executive Producer Donations, Vaccination Room Anecdote (1:50:36–1:57:06) Top-tier executive producers are recognized for their significant financial support of Episode 1400. A donor from Austin shares a disturbing anecdote about hearing a child screaming in a CVS "vaccination room," which motivated his contribution. Other producers request knighthoods and specific "roundtable" meals as part of the show's peerage system. Keywords: [dreb scott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dreb-scott.md), [keith gibson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/keith-gibson.md), kurt hildebrand, [cvs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cvs.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Amazon Purchase Scam, Telemarketing Fraud Tactics (1:57:08–1:58:48) A host describes a common telemarketing scam involving a recorded message claiming to confirm an expensive iPhone 13 purchase from Amazon. The scam attempts to trick victims into pressing a button to "cancel" the order, leading to a fraudulent interaction. The hosts discuss the repetitive nature of these calls and the use of synthesized voices. Keywords: [amazon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon.md), [scam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scam.md), [telemarketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/telemarketing.md), [fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fraud.md), iphone 13 [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Knighting Ceremony, Value-for-Value Support (1:58:49–2:05:22) The knighting ceremony continues with producers from Tennessee, France, and Texas. Donors share stories of relocating to the country to avoid mandates and selling homes to investment firms. The No Agenda Shop is credited for its independent creation of show merchandise that supports both artists and the program. Keywords: midlington, [tennessee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tennessee.md), loire valley, [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [no agenda shop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-shop.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Producer Peerage, International Donor Reports (2:05:24–2:14:36) Producers from Iceland, Sweden, and Holland provide "boots on the ground" reports regarding local COVID-19 restrictions and the return of mask mandates. A donor from Iceland describes being removed from a first responder course due to his vaccination status. The segment also touches on the "metaverse" and the future of digital labor. Keywords: [iceland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iceland.md), [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [holland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holland.md), [minecraft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minecraft.md), [metaverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/metaverse.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/34.md) ### 35. Boston Meetup, Child Tax Credit Donations (2:14:37–2:22:04) Sir Nathan Lee Miller Foster provides a lengthy note and jingle request from Boston, while other producers mention using their federal child tax credits to fund the show. A meetup in New Berlin, Wisconsin, is promoted. The hosts discuss the "Schwarzenegger" and "Biden whisper" jingles requested by the community. Keywords: [boston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boston.md), new berlin, [wisconsin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wisconsin.md), [child tax credit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-tax-credit.md), [sleepy joe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sleepy-joe.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/35.md) ### 36. Australian Economic Hardship, Escape Strategies (2:22:06–2:29:29) A producer from New South Wales, Australia, shares a harrowing account of losing his business and experiencing homelessness due to his refusal to comply with vaccine mandates. He expresses a desire to escape Australia for the United States, leading to a discussion about the ease of crossing the southern U.S. border compared to legal immigration. 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Keywords: saxse, [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [phoenix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/phoenix.md), [arizona](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arizona.md), [cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cancer.md), [health karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-karma.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/37.md) ### 38. Associate Executive Producers, Dating App Hits (2:36:30–2:45:27) Associate executive producers are recognized for their contributions, including a donor who was "hit in the mouth" with the show via a dating app. The hosts discuss the "noodle gun" and "Sharpton" jingles. A producer from Idaho reflects on John Dvorak's past appearances on the TWiT network. Keywords: encino, [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [idaho](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/idaho.md), [dating apps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dating-apps.md), [twit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twit.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/38.md) ### 39. Newsletter Feedback, Final Producer Credits (2:45:30–2:56:52) The final segment of producer credits includes feedback on the No Agenda newsletter and additional knighthood requests. The hosts emphasize that while only a small percentage of the audience provides financial support, it is essential for the show's survival. They reiterate the "value-for-value" model as they approach the midterm elections. Keywords: [athens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/athens.md), [georgia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/georgia.md), [new jersey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-jersey.md), [newsletter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletter.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/39.md) ### 40. Allison Morrow, Adam Curry's Audio Engineering (2:56:53–3:00:50) Former news reporter Allison Morrow praises Adam Curry's audio quality, describing it as the "voice of God." Curry explains that his sound is achieved through techniques learned from old-fashioned AM radio processing, which emphasizes bandwidth efficiency. He directs aspiring podcasters to his website for free access to his specific equipment settings. Keywords: allison morrow, [podfather](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podfather.md), [audio engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-engineering.md), [am radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/am-radio.md), podfathergear.com [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/40.md) ### 41. Jeff Smith, Build Back Better Jingle Package (3:00:50–3:02:39) The hosts credit Jeff Smith for his long-term contribution to the show's imaging and jingles. They contrast Smith's professional "Build Back Better" jingle package with the "jingle douchery" produced by the government. They suggest that the government's messaging would be more effective if it utilized the creative talents of the No Agenda producer community. Keywords: [jeff smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-smith.md), [build back better](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/build-back-better.md), [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), imaging, government consulting [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/41.md) ### 42. Jen Psaki, Spinach for Breakfast Comment (3:02:39–3:05:04) White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki is mocked for a bizarre comment during a press conference where she suggested people have "coffee and spinach" for breakfast. The hosts jokingly interpret this as a slip-up revealing her "reptilian" nature. The clip is analyzed for its randomness and Psaki's subsequent stumble. 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Keywords: [jbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jbs.md), vivera, [fake meat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fake-meat.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [3d printing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/3d-printing.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/47.md) ### 48. Kamala Harris, Vice Presidential Resignation Rumors (3:24:31–3:29:00) Rumors circulate regarding the potential departure of Vice President Kamala Harris from the Biden administration. Fox News reports suggest that the White House may be exploring the process for confirming a new Vice President, potentially Pete Buttigieg. The hosts discuss historical precedents for vice presidential resignations, such as Spiro Agnew. Keywords: [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), [pete buttigieg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pete-buttigieg.md), nelson rockefeller, [spiro agnew](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spiro-agnew.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/48.md) ### 49. Final Knighting, Global Meetup Reports (3:29:00–3:36:52) The knighting ceremony concludes with producers from British Columbia and various U.S. states. Meetup reports are shared from Austin, Phoenix, Boston, and Corning, New York. The community-building aspect of these gatherings is emphasized, with participants expressing gratitude for the "shrunken amygdala" zones provided by the No Agenda tribe. Keywords: huda thunkit, brandon foster, [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [phoenix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/phoenix.md), [boston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boston.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/49.md) ### 50. Birthday List, New Knights and Dames (3:36:58–3:42:29) The hosts read the birthday list and officially announce the titles for the new Knights and Dames of Episode 1400. They thank the back-office staff, including Eric DeShills and Mimi, for managing the complex logistics of the peerage system. The segment concludes with a final call for producers to submit their ring sizes for the official No Agenda rings. Keywords: paul tompkins, kurt hildebrand, eric deshills, [mimi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mimi.md), [rings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rings.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1400-the-learning-curve/chapter/50.md) ### 51. Meetup Calendar, Upcoming Global Events (3:42:29–3:51:14) A comprehensive list of upcoming No Agenda meetups is provided, covering locations from Dubai to Denver and Amsterdam. The hosts encourage listeners to attend or start their own local meetups to connect with other "human resources" of Gitmo Nation. They highlight the importance of these social gatherings in resisting isolation during periods of government restriction. 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