# Clippers 'n Whittlers

> A deep dive into the psychological roots of mass hysteria, Merck's billion-dollar antiviral pivot, and the technical failures of the modern audio production chain.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1387
- **Published:** 2021-10-03
- **Length:** 3h 10m
- **Topics:** [Mass Formation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mass-formation.md), [Molnupiravir](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/molnupiravir.md), [Ozy Media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ozy-media.md), [Let's Go Brandon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/let-s-go-brandon.md), [Ivermectin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivermectin.md), NolaCheck Meats
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers

## About this episode

Merck and the U.S. government have finalized a $1.2 billion procurement deal for Molnupiravir, an experimental antiviral pill that reportedly halves COVID-19 hospitalizations. The pharmaceutical giant is facing scrutiny for the drug's $700 price tag while simultaneously dismissing the efficacy of Ivermectin. Governor Gavin Newsom further escalated regional tensions by announcing California as the first state to mandate student vaccinations upon full FDA approval.

Professor Matthias De Smet details the psychological mechanics of mass formation, arguing that social isolation and free-floating anxiety have allowed the population to embrace restrictive rituals like masking as a symptomatic solution. In Australia, the resignation of NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian follows an ICAC corruption investigation, while Prime Minister Scott Morrison prepares to reopen international borders after eighteen months of isolation. Meanwhile, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky admitted that current vaccines do not prevent Delta variant transmission, even as Senator Dianne Feinstein proposes proof-of-vaccination requirements for all domestic air travel.

John C. Dvorak revisits his infamous 2004 column where he ranked the burgeoning medium of podcasting below wood whittling and fingernail clipping. The episode features a socialist-themed caricature of Greta Thunberg by Nick the Rat and a knighting ceremony for Sir Amzie of the Northern Plains. Adam Curry and Dvorak also sample summer sausages and Gouda brats from NolaCheck Meats while deconstructing the viral Let's Go Brandon NASCAR interview.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/transcript.md.

### 1. Baseball Sign-Stealing Scandals and Catcher Signal Codes (0:00–3:32)

The mechanics of baseball catcher signals are examined, specifically how catchers communicate pitch types to pitchers while attempting to hide them from the opposing team. Recent sign-stealing scandals are referenced, including the use of binoculars from scoreboards and banging on trash cans to alert batters. The complexity of signal coding, such as using multiple thigh taps to designate which signal is live, is highlighted as a necessary countermeasure against unsportsmanlike behavior.

Keywords: [baseball](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baseball.md), sign stealing, catcher signals, [mlb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mlb.md), sportsmanship

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/1.md)

### 2. TASCAM Audio Interface Performance and Production Quality (3:33–8:17)

A TASCAM audio interface was discarded after listener feedback indicated it lacked the expected high-quality production sound. Comparisons are made to the MXL 990 microphone, which was noted for having a distracting "comb filter" effect that made it unsuitable for professional use. The technical limitations of the TASCAM and Roadcaster units are criticized, specifically regarding their inability to provide professional control over the audio chain and their tendency to produce a "calming" NPR-style sound rather than an aggressive, engaging tone.

Keywords: [tascam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tascam.md), [roadcaster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roadcaster.md), mxl 990, [audio production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-production.md), [podcasting gear](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-gear.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Merck Molnupiravir COVID-19 Treatment and Ivermectin Comparisons (8:18–16:47)

Merck announced that its experimental antiviral pill, Molnupiravir, reduced COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths by 50% in clinical trials. The drug's origins are traced back to Emory University research on Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus, leading to its nickname "Merc-mectin" due to Merck's simultaneous dismissal of the cheaper Ivermectin. Financial details reveal a U.S. government procurement agreement for 1.7 million courses at a price of $1.2 billion, equating to roughly $700 per treatment.

Keywords: [merck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/merck.md), [molnupiravir](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/molnupiravir.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [ivermectin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivermectin.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/3.md)

### 4. California School Vaccine Mandates and Governor Gavin Newsom (16:47–18:22)

Governor Gavin Newsom announced that California will be the first state to require COVID-19 vaccinations for all students once the FDA grants full approval for respective age groups. Critics argue the mandate is unnecessary grandstanding given that 70% of the California population is already fully vaccinated. The policy faces opposition from parents concerned about the necessity of the shots for children, while others eagerly await eligibility for younger age brackets.

Keywords: [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [vaccine mandate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-mandate.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [schools](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schools.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/4.md)

### 5. COVID-19 Social Shaming and Antibody Neurosis (18:23–21:04)

An anecdote describes a double-vaccinated individual in New York who contracted COVID-19 and faced social shaming from peers for "not being careful enough." Despite recovering quickly using alternative treatments, the individual's roommate refused to return to their shared home until a negative test was produced, despite both parties already having antibodies. This behavior is characterized as a form of media-induced terror and irrational health anxiety.

Keywords: [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [antibodies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antibodies.md), social shaming, [quarantine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quarantine.md), health anxiety

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Matthias De Smet on Mass Formation and Social Isolation (21:05–28:36)

Professor Matthias De Smet explains the psychological phenomenon of "mass formation" or mass hysteria currently affecting society. He posits that pre-existing social isolation, lack of meaning-making, and free-floating anxiety allowed the population to latch onto the COVID-19 narrative as a "symptomatic solution." This process creates a new social bond through collective rituals, such as masking, which provides a "mental intoxication" of connectedness that makes individuals resistant to facts that contradict the narrative.

Keywords: matthias de smet, [mass formation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mass-formation.md), [psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychology.md), [social isolation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-isolation.md), [anxiety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anxiety.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Ivermectin Meta-Analysis and Cognitive Dissonance (28:37–30:24)

A discussion regarding the website IVM Meta, which tracks 65 ongoing and completed studies on Ivermectin's effectiveness, illustrates the cognitive dissonance found in "hypnotized" individuals. When presented with the data, a skeptic claimed the entire website was a massive effort to create "phony reports" rather than engaging with the scientific findings. This reaction is cited as evidence of the inability to use facts to persuade those caught in mass formation.

Keywords: [ivermectin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivermectin.md), ivm meta, [cognitive dissonance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cognitive-dissonance.md), clinical studies

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Ritualistic Absurdity and the New Normal (30:25–35:02)

The psychological function of rituals is explored, noting that the more absurd a requirement—such as wearing three masks—the better it functions as a sign of group loyalty. Professor De Smet suggests that many people do not wish to return to the "old normal" of unfulfilling jobs and high debt, which explains the resonance of "Build Back Better" slogans. This shift is also linked to the current labor shortages in the UK, where workers are opting out of highly regulated, low-satisfaction occupations.

Keywords: [rituals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rituals.md), [build back better](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/build-back-better.md), [social psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-psychology.md), [labor shortage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-shortage.md), [lockdowns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdowns.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Totalitarianism vs. Dictatorship and Opposition Silencing (35:02–36:32)

The distinction between a classical dictatorship and a totalitarian state is analyzed using the theories of Hannah Arendt. While a dictator may become milder once opposition is silenced to maintain a positive image, a totalitarian system becomes more aggressive and "devours its own children" when it faces no public resistance. Current trends in social media censorship and the situation in Australia are cited as indicators of a shift toward totalitarian structures.

Keywords: [totalitarianism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/totalitarianism.md), [hannah arendt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hannah-arendt.md), [soviet union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/soviet-union.md), [nazi germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nazi-germany.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/9.md)

### 10. The Three Groups of Mass Formation (36:33–40:16)

Professor De Smet identifies three distinct groups in a mass formation event: 30% who are truly hypnotized, 40% who follow the crowd to avoid conflict, and 30% who remain unhypnotized and speak out. The unhypnotized group is described as heterogeneous, including figures like Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, and Bill Maher. The theory suggests that if the final 30% can unify and continue to speak, the mass formation will eventually break.

Keywords: [mass formation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mass-formation.md), [psychology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychology.md), [glenn greenwald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-greenwald.md), [matt taibbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-taibbi.md), [bill maher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-maher.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/10.md)

### 11. CDC Transmission Admissions and Domestic Flight Mandates (40:17–42:57)

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky admitted that while vaccines may prevent severe illness, they no longer prevent the transmission of the Delta variant. Simultaneously, Senator Dianne Feinstein introduced legislation to require proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test for all domestic air travel in the United States. Airline officials have pushed back against the proposal, labeling it "logically impractical" and "cumbersome" to implement.

Keywords: [rochelle walensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rochelle-walensky.md), [dianne feinstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dianne-feinstein.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [vaccine mandates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-mandates.md), [air travel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-travel.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/11.md)

### 12. OSHA Vaccine Rulemaking Delays and Private Sector Mandates (42:58–45:17)

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki addressed the ongoing delays in OSHA's formal rulemaking process for the national vaccine mandate for large businesses. While the administration encourages private companies like United Airlines to implement their own mandates immediately, OSHA has yet to publish the official regulations. Speculation suggests the rule may never be finalized to avoid inevitable legal challenges, relying instead on corporate compliance.

Keywords: [osha](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/osha.md), [jen psaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jen-psaki.md), [vaccine mandate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-mandate.md), [department of labor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-labor.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Western Australia Protests and Medical Association Commentary (45:18–47:53)

Protesters in Perth, Western Australia, marched against upcoming vaccine mandates and the potential implementation of vaccine passports. Despite the state having few recent lockdowns, citizens expressed concern over the loss of bodily autonomy and the right to work. A representative from the Australian Medical Association dismissed the protesters as "delusional," comparing their concerns about COVID-19 conspiracies to flat-earth theories.

Keywords: [western australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/western-australia.md), [perth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/perth.md), [vaccine passports](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-passports.md), [lockdowns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdowns.md), [ama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ama.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Australia Border Reopening and Propaganda Systems (47:55–51:20)

Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced that Australia will begin reopening its international borders in November for fully vaccinated citizens, ending some of the world's strictest travel restrictions. The psychological impact of the "closed system" in Australia is compared to Jacques Ellul’s theories in the book *Propaganda*, which argues that propaganda is most effective when the population has no escape or outside input.

Keywords: [scott morrison](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-morrison.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [borders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/borders.md), [jacques ellul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jacques-ellul.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Resignation of NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian (51:21–54:34)

New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian resigned following an investigation by the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) into her conduct. While she maintained her resignation was necessary to provide certainty during the pandemic, critics point to long-standing allegations of corruption and lobbying influence. Her departure follows public accusations from political rivals regarding her ties to pharmaceutical lobbyists.

Keywords: gladys berejiklian, [new south wales](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-south-wales.md), icac, [corruption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corruption.md), [resignation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/resignation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Israel Green Pass Policy and Vaccine Definition Changes (54:35–57:35)

Israel's "Green Pass" policy has faced over 50,000 complaints after the government updated the definition of "fully vaccinated" to require a third booster shot. In the United States, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky stated that the definition of fully vaccinated currently remains two doses of mRNA vaccines or one dose of Johnson & Johnson, though she noted the "door is open" for future changes as booster eligibility expands.

Keywords: [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [green pass](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-pass.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [booster shots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/booster-shots.md), [rochelle walensky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rochelle-walensky.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Improper Vaccine Injection Techniques and Adverse Reactions (57:37–1:00:11)

Concerns are raised regarding the technique used by pharmacy workers and medical providers when administering vaccines. It is argued that providers are failing to "aspirate"—pulling back on the syringe to check for blood—which can lead to accidental intravenous injection instead of the intended intramuscular delivery. This technical failure is suggested as a potential cause for heart-related adverse events and other "vaccidents."

Keywords: intramuscular injection, [aspiration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aspiration.md), [vaccine safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-safety.md), medical providers

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Pfizer Hotline Side Effects and Nurse Whistleblower Reports (1:00:12–1:04:00)

The Pfizer adverse reaction hotline lists a wide array of potential side effects, including myocarditis, pericarditis, and lymphadenopathy. Meanwhile, a nurse from a Melbourne emergency department called a radio show to report a massive influx of patients—roughly 20 per hour—presenting with chest pains and other post-vaccination symptoms. The nurse noted that medical staff are discouraged from discussing the pressure these cases place on the healthcare system.

Keywords: [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [myocarditis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/myocarditis.md), [adverse reactions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adverse-reactions.md), [nursing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nursing.md), [melbourne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/melbourne.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh and Global Death Tolls (1:04:01–1:07:39)

Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh tested positive for COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated, though he remained asymptomatic. Global data from Johns Hopkins University indicates the U.S. has surpassed 700,000 deaths, the highest in the world. Comparisons are made to India, which has a significantly lower death toll despite a larger population and more crowded conditions, leading to speculation about the use of Ivermectin in the region.

Keywords: [brett kavanaugh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brett-kavanaugh.md), [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [johns hopkins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/johns-hopkins.md), [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), heart conditions

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/19.md)

### 20. British Hospital Mask Recycling and Plastic Waste (1:07:40–1:10:21)

British hospitals have implemented a recycling program to melt down billions of single-use plastic face masks into plastic granules. These granules are then repurposed to manufacture items such as chairs, trash cans, and reacher-grabbers. The program aims to address the massive environmental impact of the pandemic, as global mask usage is estimated at 129 billion units per month.

Keywords: mask recycling, [plastic waste](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plastic-waste.md), [nhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nhs.md), [environment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/environment.md), [sustainability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sustainability.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Mastodon Federation and Masto.host Censorship (1:10:22–1:14:24)

The host of a Mastodon server, Masto.host, reportedly refused service to a No Agenda producer, citing allegations of bigotry and racism. This incident highlights the challenges of decentralized social media and the importance of federation. Producers are encouraged to set up their own independent Mastodon instances to ensure the "Gitmo Nation" remains resilient against platform-level censorship.

Keywords: [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md), masto.host, [federation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federation.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Episode 1386 Artwork and Podcast 2.0 Integration (1:14:25–1:20:02)

Nick the Rat provided the winning artwork for episode 1386, featuring a socialist-themed caricature of Greta Thunberg. The discussion covers the selection process for show art and the importance of using modern podcasting apps that support "Podcasting 2.0" features. These new apps aim to protect the medium from Silicon Valley's influence by integrating native support for the value-for-value model.

Keywords: [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [nick the rat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nick-the-rat.md), [greta thunberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greta-thunberg.md), [digital art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-art.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Executive Producer Donations and Damehood Inductions (1:20:03–1:26:48)

A series of high-value donations are acknowledged, including a $1,125.10 contribution from a producer seeking "green card karma" and a $1,000 check from Kim Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers. Kim's donation included a "soapbox" message criticizing health insurance premium hikes for the unvaccinated while ignoring other health factors like BMI. She was officially inducted as a Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [damehood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/damehood.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Sir Amzie Knighthood and Handwritten Producer Notes (1:26:50–1:31:21)

Preston from North Dakota contributed $999.99 via three separate checks to honor his wife's 20th anniversary and his 17-year-old son. The handwritten note expressed gratitude for the show's humor and insight, specifically referencing Adam Curry's appearance on The Tom Woods Show. His son was subsequently knighted as Sir Amzie of the Northern Plains during the ceremony.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), handwritten notes, [tom woods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-woods.md), barnhardt podcast, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Federal Contractor Mandates and Religious Exemptions (1:31:32–1:35:48)

A Department of Defense contractor, "Molrat," sought advice on navigating the December 8th vaccine mandate deadline for federal employees. The discussion points toward previous show notes containing form letters for religious and medical exemptions. There is hope expressed that the availability of new treatments like Merck's Molnupiravir might eventually provide a legal or policy alternative to mandatory injections.

Keywords: [department of defense](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-defense.md), [vaccine mandate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-mandate.md), [religious exemption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/religious-exemption.md), [legal advice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legal-advice.md), [federal contractors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-contractors.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/25.md)

### 26. International Producer Support and "Smoking Hot Wife" Credits (1:35:48–1:40:17)

Donations from Sydney, Australia, and Utrecht, Netherlands, highlight the global reach of the show. David Henderson from Sydney described the "new underclass" of unvaccinated citizens in Australia who are barred from public life. Sir Robin from the Netherlands donated to secure a Damehood for his wife, Angela, noting that while she dislikes the hosts' voices, she supports the show's emphasis on critical thinking.

Keywords: [sydney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sydney.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [critical thinking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/critical-thinking.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Ivermectin Horse Paste Administration and Dosage Facts (1:40:21–1:44:19)

Producer Greg Clifton provided detailed information on the administration of Ivermectin paste for horses, clarifying that it is an oral medication delivered via a dial-a-dosage applicator. He debunked misconceptions about the drug's application and noted that despite "apple flavor" marketing, the paste reportedly tastes terrible. Clifton emphasized that while he does not suggest humans use veterinary products, he has seen success with human-prescribed Ivermectin tablets.

Keywords: [ivermectin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivermectin.md), [horse paste](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/horse-paste.md), dosage, [veterinary medicine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veterinary-medicine.md), apple flavor

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Producer Shaming and Androgynous Name Clarifications (1:44:21–1:50:47)

Kyle Doherty from South Carolina donated $233.32 to honor his mother, Greer, and to request a "de-douching" for previously failing to donate. The hosts discussed the difficulty of determining gender from androgynous names like Kyle, Kylie, or Pat, and requested that producers provide pronunciation and gender cues in their notes to avoid embarrassment during the donation segments.

Keywords: kyle doherty, androgynous names, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [birthday list](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday-list.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Amy Goodman Dinner Fund and "Woker Broker" Donations (1:50:48–1:52:33)

A satirical discussion involves a producer's donation toward a fund for John C. Dvorak to have dinner with *Democracy Now!* host Amy Goodman. The hypothetical scenario involves attending a baseball game and appearing on a "kiss cam." Additional donations from "Woker Brokers" and long-time listeners are acknowledged, focusing on the "deconstruction" of mainstream media narratives.

Keywords: [amy goodman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amy-goodman.md), [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md), [baseball](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baseball.md), [fundraising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fundraising.md), [satire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satire.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Texas Renaissance Fair and Bible Name Pronunciation (1:52:34–1:55:45)

Micah Miller invited the hosts to the Texas Renaissance Fair, where he works as a vendor. Additionally, Steve Webb, the "OG Godcaster," promoted his Bible name pronunciation guide and his "Audio Bible" podcast. Webb's project utilizes Podcasting 2.0 features like streaming satoshis and boostergrams to support the value-for-value model while reading through the Bible in a year.

Keywords: texas renaissance fair, bible names, [steve webb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-webb.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [lifespring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lifespring.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/30.md)

### 31. NolaCheck Meats and USDA Regulatory Battles (1:55:49–1:59:55)

Chad NolaCheck and his family business, NolaCheck Meats, are highlighted for their ongoing legal battle with the USDA regarding mask mandates for inspectors. The company has refused to comply with certain mandates, leading to denied appeals and regulatory pressure. The No Agenda community has supported the business by purchasing their products, which include world-class brats and bacon.

Keywords: nolacheck meats, [usda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usda.md), [fsis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fsis.md), regulatory compliance, [small business](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/small-business.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Wisconsin Meat Products and Summer Sausage Traditions (1:59:56–2:03:39)

The hosts review various meat products sent by NolaCheck Meats, including smoked Gouda brats and "meat sticks." The texture of the meat sticks is compared to a Slim Jim, while the "summer sausage"—a Wisconsin staple—is described as a large, beef-based salami. While the brats received universal praise, the hosts expressed mixed feelings about the texture of the compressed meat snacks.

Keywords: summer sausage, brats, [wisconsin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wisconsin.md), meat sticks, slim jim

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Value for Value Model and 14th Anniversary (2:03:41–2:05:16)

The No Agenda show celebrates its 14th anniversary on October 26th, maintaining a "value for value" model that eschews all corporate advertising and Chinese influence. The hosts emphasize that this model is the most honest way to produce media, as it relies entirely on the voluntary support of the audience through time, talent, and treasure.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [14th anniversary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/14th-anniversary.md), [independent media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/independent-media.md), [crowdfunding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crowdfunding.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Alex Jones Defamation Liability and Podcasting Stigma (2:05:35–2:07:55)

A Texas judge found Alex Jones liable for damages in three defamation lawsuits related to his claims about the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. The media's portrayal of Jones as a "radio host" rather than a "podcaster" is noted as a deliberate attempt to distance him from the podcasting medium. Additionally, the Southern Poverty Law Center's report on "white supremacy and podcasting" is criticized for mischaracterizing general discontent as extremism.

Keywords: [alex jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-jones.md), [infowars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infowars.md), [defamation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/defamation.md), [sandy hook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sandy-hook.md), [southern poverty law center](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/southern-poverty-law-center.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/34.md)

### 35. John C. Dvorak's 2004 "Podcasting Not Ready for Prime Time" Column (2:07:56–2:12:06)

A 2004 column by John C. Dvorak is revisited, in which he famously claimed podcasting was "not ready for prime time." The article described podcasting as a "kludge" that was too difficult for non-Mac users to access and ranked it below "whittling wood" and "fingernail clipping" in terms of entertainment value. Dvorak stands by the accuracy of the technical criticisms at the time, noting that the medium eventually succeeded once it moved beyond the "Mac-head" community.

Keywords: [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), history of podcasting, [2004](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2004.md), [technology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technology.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/35.md)

### 36. FedEx Staffing Shortages and Supply Chain Delays (2:12:06–2:13:47)

A "boots on the ground" report from a FedEx warehouse employee reveals that the Memphis central hub is operating at only 55% staffing capacity. This shortage is causing packages to be rerouted through Indiana, costing the company significant money. Despite the strain, the vaccine mandate is reportedly being "slow-rolled" to avoid lawsuits and mass firings, with the expectation that most Christmas packages will still arrive on time.

Keywords: [fedex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fedex.md), [supply chain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supply-chain.md), memphis hub, [vaccine mandate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-mandate.md), [logistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/logistics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Ozy Media Collapse and Carlos Watson Fraud Allegations (2:13:49–2:19:41)

Ozy Media collapsed following a *New York Times* report alleging that a top executive impersonated a YouTube official during a fundraising call with Goldman Sachs. Founder Carlos Watson is accused of misleading investors about celebrity backers, including Sharon Osbourne, who denied any involvement. The company's "Ozy Fest" is described as a "Fyre Festival" style event that relied on deceptive marketing and "dumb money" from Silicon Valley.

Keywords: [ozy media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ozy-media.md), carlos watson, [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [securities fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/securities-fraud.md), [sharon osbourne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sharon-osbourne.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/37.md)

### 38. "Let's Go Brandon" NASCAR Interview and Crowd Chants (2:19:42–2:22:54)

During a televised interview with NASCAR driver Brandon Brown at Talladega, the crowd began chanting "F*** Joe Biden." The NBC reporter on the scene claimed the crowd was chanting "Let's Go Brandon," a moment that quickly became a viral political meme. The incident is debated as either a deliberate attempt at media cover-up or an innocent misunderstanding by a focused reporter.

Keywords: brandon brown, [nascar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nascar.md), [let's go brandon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/let-s-go-brandon.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), talladega

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Pakistani Taliban Attacks and Afghan Refugee Resettlement (2:22:55–2:26:33)

The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for an attack on security forces near the Afghan border, highlighting ongoing tribal instability in the region. Meanwhile, Airbnb is calling for hosts in Austin, Texas, to house Afghan refugees as resettlement agencies struggle to find permanent housing. General Lloyd Austin's prior comments on evacuation plans are scrutinized for his verbal slip regarding "executing" 70,000 people.

Keywords: [taliban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taliban.md), [pakistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pakistan.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [refugees](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/refugees.md), [airbnb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbnb.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Pentagon Oval Office Replica and Fake Soundstages (2:26:36–2:28:29)

A report from a National Guard source claims an exact replica of the Oval Office and White House Press Room exists within the Pentagon. This fuels speculation regarding President Biden's public appearances, such as his booster shot administration, which appeared to take place on a soundstage with a digital backdrop of the White House grounds. The use of these "fake" environments is questioned for its impact on public trust.

Keywords: [pentagon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pentagon.md), [oval office](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oval-office.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [soundstage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/soundstage.md), [booster shot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/booster-shot.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Facebook Whistleblower and Senate Instagram Hearings (2:28:31–2:32:25)

A Facebook whistleblower, Frances Haugen, appeared on *60 Minutes* to reveal internal research showing Instagram's negative impact on the body image of teenage girls. During Senate hearings, Senator Richard Blumenthal was criticized for his "creepy" method of setting up a fake 13-year-old girl's profile to test the platform's algorithms. The legislative focus is viewed as a power struggle over Facebook's massive advertising revenue and lobbying influence.

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [instagram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/instagram.md), [whistleblower](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whistleblower.md), [frances haugen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/frances-haugen.md), [richard blumenthal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-blumenthal.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/41.md)

### 42. China Power Outages and Australian Coal Boycott (2:32:25–2:35:13)

Widespread power outages in China have forced soybean processing plants and aluminum smelters to shut down. The crisis is attributed to China's boycott of Australian coal, which backfired and left the country with severe energy shortages. While some video evidence of darkened cities has surfaced, the true extent of the crisis remains difficult to verify due to limited independent reporting from within China.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [power outage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/power-outage.md), [coal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coal.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Carfentanil Flood in California and Spice Detox Trends (2:35:13–2:38:30)

A psychiatric nurse in California reports a surge in patients detoxing from "Carfentanil," a synthetic opioid significantly more potent than standard fentanyl. The drug is so dangerous that even minor exposure can be fatal to first responders. Additionally, "Spice" (synthetic marijuana) use is reportedly increasing among military personnel because it remains undetectable in standard drug tests, often leading to severe psychiatric episodes.

Keywords: carfentanil, [fentanyl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fentanyl.md), [spice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spice.md), drug detox, [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Global Donation Acknowledgments and "De-booshing" Requests (2:38:30–2:42:25)

A final round of donations from international producers in Israel, Germany, and Finland are acknowledged. Producers requested "de-booshing" and "de-douching" as they contributed to the show's operation. Notable contributions came from Mark Warfel, who joked about "listing to starboard," and various "Barons" and "Baronesses" from the No Agenda community.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [finland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/finland.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Health Karma Requests and "Karen-Free" Households (2:42:26–2:46:23)

Producers requested "health karma" for family members battling cancer and COVID-19. Agnes Roman's donation note described the social friction caused by the "COVID circus," including a friend who was segregated from his family for refusing the vaccine. The hosts provided "goat karma" and "R2-D2 karma" in response to these personal stories of resilience during the pandemic.

Keywords: [health karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-karma.md), [breast cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/breast-cancer.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Knighting Ceremony and Multi-Colored Sealing Wax (2:46:24–2:49:30)

The official knighting ceremony for episode 1387 inducted Sir Amzie, Dame Queen of One-Liners, and Dame Kim Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers. New knights and dames are entitled to certificates of authenticity and multi-colored sealing wax for their correspondence. The ceremony emphasizes the "production value" provided by these high-tier supporters of the independent media model.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [damehood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/damehood.md), [sealing wax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sealing-wax.md), [certificates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/certificates.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/46.md)

### 47. No Agenda Meetups and Global Community Events (2:49:31–2:54:20)

The No Agenda community held successful meetups in Finland, Philadelphia, and the Texas Hill Country. Upcoming events are scheduled for Santa Cruz, Denver, and San Diego, with a major "Bastrop County" event featuring hatchet throwing and live music. These producer-organized gatherings are described as essential for maintaining social bonds outside of the "mass hysteria" of the mainstream narrative.

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [finland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/finland.md), [philadelphia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philadelphia.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [community](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/community.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/47.md)

### 48. DHS Whistleblower Philip Haney and "Self-Inflicted" Gunshot (2:54:21–2:56:14)

The death of Department of Homeland Security whistleblower Philip Haney is discussed following the discovery of his body in Northern California. Authorities ruled the death a "self-inflicted gunshot wound," though Haney was well-known for his vocal criticism of the Obama administration's handling of Islamic terror records. The circumstances of the death are met with skepticism, drawing parallels to other high-profile whistleblower cases.

Keywords: philip haney, [dhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dhs.md), [whistleblower](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whistleblower.md), [obama administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obama-administration.md), amador county

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/48.md)

### 49. School Board Domestic Terrorism Labels and FBI Monitoring (2:56:16–3:01:25)

The National School Boards Association requested federal assistance to protect board members from "angry parents," suggesting that protests against mask and vaccine mandates be treated as domestic terrorism. The White House and DOJ have responded by directing the FBI to monitor threats. Critics argue this is a weaponization of federal law enforcement against conservative parents who are simply exercising their right to dissent.

Keywords: [school boards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/school-boards.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [domestic terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domestic-terrorism.md), [merrick garland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/merrick-garland.md), [parents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parents.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Northern Ireland Clown Shortage and NPR Reporting (3:01:27–3:03:24)

A "clown shortage" has been reported in Northern Ireland as circus performers have moved to other EU nations that reopened earlier. Duffy's Circus has opened online auditions for new clowns, emphasizing that the role requires a high level of rapport and audience interaction. The story's coverage on NPR is mocked for its "happy music" and perceived lack of journalistic seriousness.

Keywords: clown shortage, [northern ireland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/northern-ireland.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), [supply chain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supply-chain.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/50.md)

### 51. End of Show Mixes and Sign-Off (3:03:25–3:04:42)

The episode concludes with a series of "End of Show Mixes" produced by listeners Neil Jones, Fletcher, and Rolando Gonzalez. The hosts, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak, sign off from their respective locations in Texas and Northern Silicon Valley, reminding listeners to support the show via the value-for-value model before the next broadcast on Thursday.

Keywords: [end of show mix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/end-of-show-mix.md), [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [sign-off](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sign-off.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/51.md)

### 52. Federal Reserve Critique and Climate Change "Blah Blah Blah" (3:05:14–3:10:43)

A final montage features a critique of the Federal Reserve's role in the economy, noting that the finance sector's share of GDP has more than doubled, acting as a "blood sucker" on the rest of the economy. This is followed by a mash-up of Greta Thunberg's "blah blah blah" speech at a climate summit, mocking the empty promises of world leaders regarding net-zero emissions and "climate neutrality."

Keywords: [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [gdp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gdp.md), [greta thunberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greta-thunberg.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1387-clippers-n-whittlers/chapter/52.md)

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