# Bombing The Moon (Don't look over here!)

> A Nobel Prize announcement masks a lunar bombardment while European treaties shift and cloud computing failures leave thousands of mobile users without their personal data.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 138
- **Published:** 2009-10-10
- **Length:** 1h 25m
- **Topics:** [Moon Bombing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon-bombing.md), [Nobel Prize](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nobel-prize.md), CERN Arrest, [Lisbon Treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisbon-treaty.md), Sidekick Failure, [Atlas Shrugged](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atlas-shrugged.md), [HPV Vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hpv-vaccine.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here

## About this episode

Barack Obama secured the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize just months into his presidency, a move analyzed here as a strategic media distraction from domestic policy shifts. Simultaneously, NASA launched the LCROSS mission to crash a kinetic weapon into the lunar surface, an event dubbed a moon bombing that potentially violates the 1967 United Nations Outer Space Treaty. These dual headlines dominated the news cycle while substantive security stories, such as the arrest of a CERN researcher with alleged Al-Qaeda links, were relegated to the back pages of the Financial Times.

President Obama shifted his rhetoric from healthcare reform to health insurance reform as the Senate Finance Committee utilized procedural maneuvers to bypass constitutional spending requirements. In London, the death of 14-year-old Natalie Morton following a Cervarix HPV vaccination sparked an inquest, while in Poland, President Lech Kaczynski ratified the Lisbon Treaty to leave the Czech Republic as the final European Union holdout. Meanwhile, Microsoft subsidiary Danger Inc. suffered a massive server failure that permanently erased personal data for T-Mobile Sidekick users, highlighting the systemic risks of cloud computing. In Los Angeles, District Attorney Steve Cooley initiated a massive crackdown on medical marijuana dispensaries, claiming nearly all operations in the city are illegal despite de facto state legalization.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak test the sound quality of a custom-built wireless microphone stand made from a Radio Shack alligator clip. Dvorak faces a high-stakes pop quiz on the plot details of Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, specifically regarding the fate of goats during Project X. The duo also explores a listener report from Tempelhof Air Force Base involving a secret room filled with hundreds of stolen Dutch bicycles from World War II.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/transcript.md.

### 1. No Agenda Episode 138, Gitmo Nation Media Assassination (0:00–2:11)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 138 of No Agenda from San Francisco and Silicon Valley during Fleet Week 2009. They discuss listener feedback regarding their "cornball" show opening and Curry's recent assignment for Andrew Grumet to study skeptic-style podcasts. The hosts emphasize their commitment to professional presentation despite criticism of their use of radio jingles.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [mevio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mevio.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [fleet week](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fleet-week.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Adam Curry's New Wireless Microphone and Roach Clip Stand (2:11–6:27)

Adam Curry describes his new minimalist recording setup featuring a wireless lavalier microphone and a custom-built stand made from a Radio Shack alligator clip and a telescopic antenna. He compares the sound quality of the wireless unit favorably against expensive studio microphones. The hosts discuss the "character" added to voices by different hardware and reference old Bay Area radio DJ Dr. Don Rose.

Keywords: [radio shack](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/radio-shack.md), wireless lavalier, midi controllers, [ableton live](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ableton-live.md), [microphone stand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microphone-stand.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Executive Producer Mickey Kennedy and Donation Recognition (6:28–7:21)

Mickey Kennedy is introduced as the executive producer for episode 138 after providing the highest donation for the session. The hosts explain the role of an executive producer in their model, noting that they are willing to provide letters of recommendation for those who support the show at this level. A full breakdown of donors is promised for the end of the broadcast.

Keywords: [mickey kennedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mickey-kennedy.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda.md), recommendation letter

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/3.md)

### 4. John C. Dvorak's Atlas Shrugged Pop Quiz (7:22–12:10)

Adam Curry administers a three-question pop quiz to John C. Dvorak to verify if he actually read Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged. Dvorak correctly identifies the Reardon Metal bracelet and Dagny Taggart's job as a housemaid in Galt's Gulch, but fails to recall that the "Project X" sound wave machine was tested on goats. Curry concludes that Dvorak likely read the book despite the missed details.

Keywords: [ayn rand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ayn-rand.md), [atlas shrugged](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atlas-shrugged.md), hank reardon, dagny taggart, [galt's gulch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/galt-s-gulch.md), [project x](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/project-x.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Atlas Shrugged Literary Critique and Swine Flu Phone Ad (12:13–15:59)

John C. Dvorak critiques the logic of Atlas Shrugged, questioning the absence of HR departments and the physics of shale oil fires. The segment transitions into a satirical "Swine Flu Phone" audio clip produced by Parker R. Snyder. Adam Curry acknowledges the production quality of the clip and mentions the show's willingness to run creative content for financial support.

Keywords: [john galt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-galt.md), [shale oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shale-oil.md), mr. thompson, [swine flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swine-flu.md), parker r. snyder

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Obama Nobel Peace Prize as Media Distraction (15:59–18:23)

The hosts analyze President Barack Obama winning the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize as a calculated distraction from domestic policy. They argue that the timing of the award, coming just months into his presidency, was designed to keep both right-wing and left-wing media outlets occupied. They contrast Obama's donation of the prize money to charity with Al Gore's previous win and investment strategies.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [nobel peace prize](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nobel-peace-prize.md), [media distraction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-distraction.md), [al gore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-gore.md), [cap and trade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cap-and-trade.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/6.md)

### 7. NASA LCROSS Moon Bombing and International Space Law (18:25–24:24)

NASA's LCROSS mission, which involved crashing a kinetic weapon into the moon to search for water, is criticized as a "moon bombing." The hosts discuss the lack of visible results from the impact and suggest the mission may violate the 1967 United Nations Outer Space Treaty. They link the timing of this event to the Nobel Peace Prize announcement as part of a dual-distraction strategy.

Keywords: [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [lcross](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lcross.md), [moon bombing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon-bombing.md), kinetic weapon, [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [outer space treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outer-space-treaty.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Nobel Peace Prize History and Norwegian Selection Process (24:24–28:59)

John C. Dvorak explains the distinction between the Swedish Nobel Committees and the Norwegian Nobel Committee, which selects the Peace Prize winner. He notes that the Norwegian parliament appoints the five-person committee, making the prize more political than the scientific awards. The hosts discuss Alfred Nobel's invention of dynamite and the historical fact that Mahatma Gandhi never won the prize despite multiple nominations.

Keywords: alfred nobel, [norway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/norway.md), [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), dynamite, mahatma gandhi, [kroner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kroner.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/8.md)

### 9. CERN Researcher Arrest and Al-Qaeda Links (28:59–30:38)

A brief news item covers the arrest of a researcher at CERN's Large Hadron Collider in France for alleged links to Al-Qaeda. Adam Curry suggests this story, while significant, was buried in the Financial Times beneath the coverage of the Nobel Peace Prize. The hosts use this as further evidence of the media's focus on "distraction" stories over substantive security news.

Keywords: [cern](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cern.md), [large hadron collider](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/large-hadron-collider.md), [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), researcher

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Senate Finance Committee Health Insurance Reform Pivot (30:40–35:03)

Adam Curry highlights a linguistic shift in President Obama's rhetoric from "healthcare reform" to "health insurance reform." He argues that the Senate Finance Committee is using procedural maneuvers to merge various bills into a final version that avoids constitutional spending requirements. The hosts express skepticism toward the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) claims regarding the bill's affordability and deficit impact.

Keywords: [senate finance committee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate-finance-committee.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), health insurance reform, [cbo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbo.md), [healthcare bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare-bill.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/10.md)

### 11. White House Rose Garden Doctor Photo Op (35:04–38:05)

The hosts discuss a White House event where doctors were reportedly asked to wear white lab coats for a photo opportunity to support health reform. They claim the event was staged by advisors like David Axelrod using "stooges" from left-leaning medical organizations. They also analyze the support of Governors Arnold Schwarzenegger and Michael Bloomberg as being coerced by the promise of federal stimulus funds.

Keywords: [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [rose garden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rose-garden.md), [david axelrod](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-axelrod.md), [arnold schwarzenegger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arnold-schwarzenegger.md), [michael bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-bloomberg.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Obama Weekly Address and Partisan Politics Rhetoric (38:05–40:30)

The hosts play clips from President Obama's weekly radio address, focusing on his attacks on the "status quo" and insurance companies. They interpret his language as a "bait and switch" designed to consolidate power over the insurance industry rather than improving medical care. The segment concludes with a critique of the "national purpose" rhetoric used to push the legislation through Congress.

Keywords: [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [weekly address](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weekly-address.md), [insurance companies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance-companies.md), [status quo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/status-quo.md), [partisan politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/partisan-politics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Gun Ownership Penalties in Health Care Legislation (40:31–43:32)

A claim is discussed regarding potential penalties for gun owners under the proposed health care reform. The hosts suggest that the administration may classify hunting or keeping a firearm for self-defense as an "excessively dangerous activity," allowing insurance companies to exclude coverage or increase costs. They argue this is a hidden aspect of the bill that mainstream media is ignoring in favor of the Nobel Prize story.

Keywords: [gun ownership](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-ownership.md), [hunting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hunting.md), [health insurance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-insurance.md), penalties, [second amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/second-amendment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Miss Singapore World Credit Card Theft Scandal (43:32–44:18)

Miss Singapore World, Ris Low, resigned her crown after it was revealed she used stolen credit cards for a shopping spree involving expensive lingerie. The hosts question why a high-profile beauty queen would resort to fraud given her status. They note she will no longer represent Singapore at the Miss World Finals in South Africa.

Keywords: miss singapore world, ris low, [credit card fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/credit-card-fraud.md), [lingerie](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lingerie.md), [beauty pageant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beauty-pageant.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Cervarix HPV Vaccine Death and Inquest Results (44:20–46:09)

The death of 14-year-old Natalie Morton in England shortly after receiving the Cervarix HPV vaccine is discussed. While the initial investigation led to a temporary halt in vaccinations, the hosts report that a pathologist later attributed the death to a "malignant tumor of unknown origin" in the heart and lungs. They express skepticism about the "coincidence" and the rapid reinstatement of the vaccination program.

Keywords: cervarix, [hpv vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hpv-vaccine.md), natalie morton, [england](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/england.md), malignant tumor

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Lisbon Treaty Ratification and Tony Blair Presidency (46:10–50:53)

Polish President Lech Kaczynski's ratification of the Lisbon Treaty leaves only the Czech Republic as a holdout for the new European Union framework. The hosts discuss the potential for Tony Blair to become the first President of Europe. They analyze specific treaty footnotes regarding the death penalty during "unrest" and the incarceration of individuals with communicable diseases like swine flu.

Keywords: [lisbon treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisbon-treaty.md), [lech kaczynski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lech-kaczynski.md), [czech republic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/czech-republic.md), [tony blair](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tony-blair.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/16.md)

### 17. EU Competition Commission and Mitterrand Sex Scandal (50:55–54:52)

EU Competition Commissioner Neelie Kroes is targeting Google and IBM for market abuse, which the hosts characterize as a way to siphon money into European coffers. The discussion shifts to a scandal involving French Culture Minister Frédéric Mitterrand and his past visits to sex tourism spots in Thailand. Adam Curry reiterates his theory regarding systemic issues among the European political elite.

Keywords: [neelie kroes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neelie-kroes.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [ibm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ibm.md), frédéric mitterrand, [thailand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thailand.md), [pedophilia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pedophilia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Tempelhof Air Force Base and Stolen Dutch Bicycles (54:53–57:57)

A listener story from "Radar Man" describes the discovery of hundreds of stolen Dutch bicycles walled off in a secret room at Tempelhof Air Force Base in Berlin. The bicycles, originally seized by Germans during World War II, were reportedly uncovered during a radar installation project in the 1970s. The base personnel eventually refurbished and used the bikes for transportation around the massive facility.

Keywords: tempelhof, [berlin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berlin.md), [world war ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-ii.md), dutch bicycles, radar installation

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Columbus Day Bank Holiday and Depression Theories (57:58–58:49)

The hosts discuss the coincidence of the U.S. Columbus Day holiday and Canadian Thanksgiving falling on the same weekend. They mention a popular conspiracy theory that this long weekend could be used for a "bank holiday" similar to those seen during the Great Depression. While acknowledging there is no concrete evidence, they advise listeners to stay vigilant regarding financial stability.

Keywords: [columbus day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/columbus-day.md), [bank holiday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bank-holiday.md), [great depression](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/great-depression.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [thanksgiving](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thanksgiving.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/19.md)

### 20. T-Mobile Sidekick Data Loss and Cloud Computing Risks (58:51–1:00:38)

A massive server failure at Danger Inc., a Microsoft subsidiary, resulted in the permanent loss of personal data for T-Mobile Sidekick users. The hosts highlight this as a primary example of the dangers of cloud computing, where contacts and photos are not stored locally. They mock the lack of backups at a major technology firm and the resulting media fallout.

Keywords: [t-mobile](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/t-mobile.md), sidekick, danger inc, [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [cloud computing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cloud-computing.md), [data loss](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-loss.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Chris Rock on Roman Polanski and NBC Ratings (1:00:39–1:04:06)

The hosts review a Chris Rock appearance on the Jay Leno show where the comedian mocked the defense of director Roman Polanski. Rock's commentary on the 1977 statutory rape case is used to highlight the absurdity of Hollywood's support for Polanski. The segment also touches on NBC's declining ratings and the failure of the Jay Leno 10:00 PM experiment.

Keywords: [chris rock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-rock.md), [roman polanski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roman-polanski.md), [jay leno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-leno.md), [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [late night television](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/late-night-television.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Afghanistan War Escalation and Vietnam Comparisons (1:04:06–1:07:45)

The war in Afghanistan is increasingly compared to the Vietnam War in mainstream media and political cartoons. The hosts discuss the deployment of 21,000 additional troops and the lack of a modern anti-war movement, noting that groups like Code Pink have become less vocal under the Obama administration. They speculate that a military draft might eventually be proposed to force public attention on the conflict's costs.

Keywords: [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [vietnam war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vietnam-war.md), [blackwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackwater.md), [military draft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military-draft.md), [code pink](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/code-pink.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Los Angeles Marijuana Dispensary Crackdown (1:07:46–1:12:23)

Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley announced a major crackdown on medical marijuana dispensaries, claiming nearly 100% are operating illegally. The hosts criticize Cooley's background as a former LAPD officer and his controversial record on other cases, including the Robert Blake trial. They argue that marijuana is de facto legal in California and that Cooley's efforts will likely face significant public resistance.

Keywords: steve cooley, [los angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-angeles.md), [medical marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-marijuana.md), [lapd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lapd.md), robert blake

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Second Economic Stimulus Package Proposals (1:12:23–1:15:45)

Congress is preparing a second economic stimulus package as the initial $787 billion failed to curb unemployment. Proposed measures include extending unemployment benefits by 13-14 weeks, COBRA subsidies, and a $4,000 tax credit for new hires proposed by Arlen Specter. The hosts analyze the potential for businesses to exploit the hiring credits and express concern over the nation's "bust" financial status.

Keywords: [stimulus package](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stimulus-package.md), [unemployment benefits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unemployment-benefits.md), [cobra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cobra.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [arlen specter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arlen-specter.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Donor Acknowledgments and Vegan Vaccine Exemptions (1:15:45–1:21:19)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak thank their donors, including Executive Producer Mickey Kennedy of eReleases.com. They acknowledge contributions from various listeners in Canada, the UK, and New Zealand. A listener from New Zealand suggests that vegans could potentially claim a religious or ethical exemption from the swine flu vaccine because it contains animal products, a strategy the hosts find "genius."

Keywords: ereleases, [mickey kennedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mickey-kennedy.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [new zealand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-zealand.md), [veganism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veganism.md), [swine flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swine-flu.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/25.md)

### 26. EFF FISA Lawsuit and AT&T Agency Status (1:21:20–1:23:46)

The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) obtained court documents revealing the government's defense of telecom immunity. The feds argued that communications between the government and AT&T are "intra-agency" records because they share a common interest in litigation defense. The hosts interpret this as a legal admission that AT&T effectively operates as a federal agency or an arm of the CIA.

Keywords: [electronic frontier foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electronic-frontier-foundation.md), [fisa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fisa.md), [at&t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [freedom of information act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freedom-of-information-act.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Show Outro and Thursday Schedule (1:23:47–1:25:06)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude the Saturday broadcast, reminding listeners of the upcoming health insurance reform vote on Tuesday. They reiterate their "Value for Value" model and express a desire to produce the show full-time if donations allow. The next episode is scheduled for the following Thursday.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [podcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast.md), [schedule](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schedule.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/138-bombing-the-moon-don-t-look-over-here/chapter/27.md)

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