# Grope Line

> The Cuomo dynasty collapses under the weight of a grope line while shifting vaccine data and new university mandates signal a permanent change in pandemic protocols.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1372
- **Published:** 2021-08-12
- **Length:** 3h 58m
- **Topics:** Cuomo Resignation, Pfizer Efficacy, Grope Line, IPCC Report, Ivermectin Legal Battle, [Fort Detrick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fort-detrick.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line

## About this episode

Andrew Cuomo resigns from the New York governorship following a series of sexual harassment allegations and the release of Attorney General Letitia James's report detailing his behavior. The transition to Lieutenant Governor Kathy Hochul marks the end of the Cuomo family legacy as media outlets pivot from their previous characterization of Cuomo as a pandemic hero. The report specifically highlights the use of a grope line at public events to facilitate unwanted contact.

Pfizer data reveals a six percent monthly decline in vaccine efficacy while Stanford University and the University of California implement weekly testing mandates for all students. In Austin, Stage 5 restrictions return despite boots-on-the-ground reports of empty hospital facilities. Meanwhile, the CDC shielding approach document outlines green zones for high-risk individuals, mirroring strict lockdowns in Australia. Dr. Dan Stock challenged these protocols in a viral school board presentation, citing a failure to follow established immunological science. In Mississippi, legal battles emerge over hospital refusals to administer Ivermectin despite valid prescriptions from outside practitioners.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the transition of ABC and NBC into celebrity home shopping networks. Sir Ducifer recounts his experience with hospital protocols and the difficulty of obtaining non-protocol treatments at corporate pharmacies like CVS. The show concludes with a custom musical parody by Sir Chris Wilson and a look at the extinction clock tracking decades of failed environmental forecasts.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/transcript.md.

### 1. Protocols of the CDC, Media Assassination Episode 1372 (0:00–1:30)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1372 of No Agenda from Texas and Northern Silicon Valley. Dvorak claims that the protocols of the CDC have replaced the protocols of the elders of Zion in the current political climate. The hosts prepare to dive into their "3x3" news analysis.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), protocols of the elders of zion, [fema region 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema-region-6.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/1.md)

### 2. ABC, NBC News Trends, Celebrity Interviews and Home Shopping (1:31–4:48)

John C. Dvorak analyzes recent broadcasts from ABC and NBC, noting that ABC has transitioned into a "home shopping network" featuring fashion reports and celebrity chef Bobby Flay. NBC is characterized as a celebrity news outlet, highlighted by Al Roker interviewing Kristen Bell and Dax Shepard about their game show. The hosts criticize the lack of hard news on these major networks.

Keywords: [abc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc.md), [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), bobby flay, [al roker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-roker.md), [kristen bell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kristen-bell.md), dax shepard

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/2.md)

### 3. CBS COVID-19 Coverage, Pfizer Vaccine Efficacy Decline (4:49–6:14)

CBS News features Dr. Agus discussing the necessity of vaccinating children and maintaining mask mandates. During the segment, it is mentioned that Pfizer's own data suggests vaccine efficacy drops by 6% per month. The hosts discuss the implications of this decline and the inevitable push for a third booster shot.

Keywords: [cbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs.md), dr. agus, [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [vaccine efficacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-efficacy.md), [booster shots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/booster-shots.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Stanford University COVID-19 Testing Policy, Campus Mandates (6:15–7:44)

Stanford University has updated its COVID-19 policy to require weekly testing for all students and staff regardless of vaccination status. This follows similar mandates at Cal, though the Stanford policy allows for the removal of masks if testing is maintained. The hosts argue that these shifting policies demonstrate that the vaccines are not working as originally promised.

Keywords: [stanford university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stanford-university.md), cal, [vaccine mandates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-mandates.md), weekly testing, [masks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/masks.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Austin Stage 5 COVID Restrictions, Texas Hospital Bed Shortage Claims (7:44–11:13)

Austin, Texas has entered Stage 5 COVID-19 restrictions, reintroducing curbside pickup and school mask mandates in defiance of Governor Greg Abbott. While headlines claim Texas is running out of ICU beds and seeking out-of-state help, a boots-on-the-ground report from an Austin medical center shows empty parking garages and no lines for testing. The hosts suggest the reported crisis is a scripted narrative.

Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [greg abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-abbott.md), [icu beds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icu-beds.md), [houston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/houston.md), [pcr tests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pcr-tests.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/5.md)

### 6. China Pandemic Measures, Port Closures and Welded Doors (11:13–12:53)

Reports from China indicate a return to harsh pandemic measures, including welding the doors of residential buildings shut after confirmed virus cases. Additionally, the world's third busiest container port in Eastern China has been shut down due to COVID-19. The hosts note that these actions mirror the initial 2020 response in Wuhan.

Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), eastern china port, [lockdowns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdowns.md), pandemic restrictions, [supply chain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supply-chain.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Pediatric COVID-19 Hospitalization Data, Mask Mandates in Schools (12:54–14:42)

Mainstream media reports claim pediatric ICU beds are reaching capacity in Alabama and North Texas, leading Dr. Anthony Fauci to support vaccine mandates for teachers. However, the hosts cite data suggesting that 40% of children hospitalized with COVID-19 in some California hospitals were admitted for other reasons and simply tested positive via PCR. They argue the surge in pediatric cases is being used to fuel fear-mongering.

Keywords: [alabama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alabama.md), north texas, [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), pediatric icu, pcr results

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/7.md)

### 8. CDC Shielding Approach, Australia Lockdown and Penal Colony Culture (14:42–18:14)

The CDC's "shielding approach" document outlines the creation of "green zones" to isolate high-risk individuals, a concept currently being mirrored by strict lockdowns in Australia. Canberra has entered a seven-day lockdown following a single positive case. The hosts discuss the compliance of the Australian public, noting the country's history as a penal colony and the impact of past gun control measures.

Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [canberra](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canberra.md), shielding approach, green zones

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Delta Variant R-Naught Values, Herd Immunity Definitions (18:14–21:36)

Health experts from Johns Hopkins explain that the Delta variant has an R-naught value of 5 to 6, making it significantly more contagious than previous strains. The hosts criticize the comparison of COVID-19 to measles and whooping cough. They specifically challenge the new definition of herd immunity being presented, which suggests the virus must be completely absent from a community.

Keywords: [delta variant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-variant.md), [r-naught](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/r-naught.md), [johns hopkins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/johns-hopkins.md), [measles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/measles.md), [herd immunity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/herd-immunity.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Pfizer Vaccine Antibody Testing, Saline Shot Reports (21:36–23:45)

A report suggests that some individuals who received the Pfizer vaccine show zero antibodies upon testing. The hosts discuss an anecdote regarding a producer who experienced no side effects from the shot, leading to speculation about placebos or saline shots being administered. They criticize the narrative that feeling sick after a vaccine is the only sign that it is working.

Keywords: [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [antibodies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antibodies.md), saline shots, [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md), jennifer dvorak

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/10.md)

### 11. School Mask Mandates, Dr. Fauci on Teacher Vaccine Mandates (23:46–26:50)

Media coverage highlights parents in Texas and Florida who are anxious about the lack of mask mandates in schools. Dr. Anthony Fauci expresses support for mandating vaccines for teachers, aligning with Randy Weingarten of the American Federation of Teachers. Fauci acknowledges the tension with individual freedom but insists the current surge justifies local mandates.

Keywords: [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), randy weingarten, [mask mandates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mask-mandates.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/11.md)

### 12. FDA Commissioner Vacancy, Emergency Use vs. Full Approval (26:50–30:42)

The White House faces questions regarding the 200-day vacancy of the FDA Commissioner position. Meanwhile, media figures like Mika Brzezinski and Dr. Anthony Fauci argue that the lack of full FDA approval for COVID vaccines is a mere technicality. Fauci asserts that the vaccines are effectively approved given the hundreds of millions of doses already administered.

Keywords: [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [jen psaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jen-psaki.md), [mika brzezinski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mika-brzezinski.md), [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), [emergency use authorization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emergency-use-authorization.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Arizona School Mask Ban, Dr. Christina Bergen Interview (30:44–35:50)

NPR interviews Dr. Christina Bergen, a Phoenix doctor who criticized Arizona Governor Doug Ducey for banning school mask mandates. Bergen expresses frustration that her daughter was exposed to COVID-19 within three days of starting school. The hosts argue that Bergen's rhetoric about "vigilance and sacrifice" sounds scripted and ignores the reality of the Delta variant.

Keywords: [arizona](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arizona.md), [doug ducey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/doug-ducey.md), christina bergen, [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [delta variant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-variant.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Political Targeting of Republican Governors, Vaccine Shaming (35:51–38:32)

The hosts observe a media trend of blaming Republican governors in Florida, Texas, and Arizona for the summer COVID-19 surge. They discuss the "pandemic of the unvaccinated" narrative and argue that shaming people for vaccine hesitancy is counterproductive. They suggest that if the vaccine were truly a health issue, proponents would use encouragement rather than ridicule.

Keywords: [ron desantis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-desantis.md), [greg abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-abbott.md), [doug ducey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/doug-ducey.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/14.md)

### 15. African American Vaccine Hesitancy, Tuskegee Syphilis Study (38:34–41:00)

Mainstream media reports on the historical roots of vaccine hesitancy among African Americans, citing the 1932 Tuskegee Syphilis Study. Descendants of the study's participants are featured in a documentary encouraging vaccination. The hosts argue that while the Tuskegee study is a valid historical grievance, the current mistrust is more likely rooted in ongoing systemic failures in the healthcare administration.

Keywords: tuskegee study, [african americans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/african-americans.md), medical mistrust, [syphilis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/syphilis.md), freddie lee tyson

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Arnold Schwarzenegger "Screw Your Freedom" Comments (41:01–42:32)

Former California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger sparked controversy by saying "screw your freedom" regarding those who refuse to wear masks or get vaccinated. He compared pandemic restrictions to traffic lights, arguing that individual rights end when they affect others. The hosts criticize Schwarzenegger's stance, noting his Austrian background and the authoritarian tone of his remarks.

Keywords: [arnold schwarzenegger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arnold-schwarzenegger.md), [freedom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/freedom.md), [mask mandates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mask-mandates.md), [traffic lights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/traffic-lights.md), [austria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austria.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Chet Hanks Anti-Vaccine Video, COVID-19 Mortality Odds (42:32–44:58)

Chet Hanks, son of Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson, posted a video that began as a pro-vaccine message before revealing it was a prank to express his anti-vaccine and anti-mandate views. Following this, the hosts discuss the statistical odds of dying from COVID-19, noting that for those under 70, the chances are extremely low, which they argue justifies individual risk assessment.

Keywords: chet hanks, [tom hanks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-hanks.md), [rita wilson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rita-wilson.md), [mortality rates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mortality-rates.md), [statistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/statistics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/17.md)

### 18. West Virginia Nursing Home Outbreak, Vaccinated Resident Infections (44:58–47:27)

A whistleblower from a West Virginia healthcare company reports that a recent COVID-19 outbreak in a nursing home primarily affected vaccinated residents. The report also claims that the facility switched from PCR to antigen testing to manipulate case numbers during the vaccine rollout. The hosts use this to highlight the discrepancy between official narratives and on-the-ground realities.

Keywords: [west virginia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/west-virginia.md), [nursing homes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nursing-homes.md), [antigen tests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antigen-tests.md), vaccinated, [breakthrough cases](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/breakthrough-cases.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Dr. Dan Stock School Board Presentation, CDC Criticism (47:28–51:36)

Dr. Dan Stock, a functional family medicine physician, gained national attention for a viral presentation to an Indiana school board where he challenged CDC guidelines using a thumb drive of scientific studies. The hosts discuss why his message resonated, noting his calm demeanor and direct attack on the CDC's failure to follow established immunological science.

Keywords: dr. dan stock, [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [immunology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immunology.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [school board](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/school-board.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Mississippi Ivermectin Legal Battle, Hospital Protocol Dispute (51:37–54:30)

A legal battle in Mississippi involves a hospital's refusal to administer Ivermectin to a dying COVID-19 patient despite a valid prescription from an outside practitioner. The hospital's legal counsel argued that the treatment was not part of their established protocol. The hosts highlight this as an example of hospitals prioritizing administrative rules over potentially life-saving alternative treatments.

Keywords: [ivermectin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivermectin.md), [mississippi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mississippi.md), wesley medical center, hospital protocol, legal injunction

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Kate Dalley Hospital Experience, COVID Pneumonia Protocols (54:31–59:04)

Radio host Kate Dalley shares her experience navigating the hospital system after her husband was diagnosed with "COVID pneumonia." She describes fighting to have him treated with high-dose intravenous Vitamin C and Zinc while resisting the hospital's immediate push for a ventilator. The hosts argue that rigid CDC protocols are leading to over-treatment and higher mortality rates.

Keywords: kate dalley, [vitamin c](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vitamin-c.md), [zinc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zinc.md), [ventilators](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ventilators.md), cdc protocols

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Sir Ducifer Hospitalization, Ivermectin Access Issues (59:04–1:01:43)

A No Agenda producer, Sir Ducifer, recounts his hospitalization for COVID pneumonia and his decision to leave the facility due to poor care. After obtaining a prescription for Ivermectin from an independent doctor, he was denied the medication by major chains like CVS and Walgreens. The hosts discuss the increasing difficulty of accessing non-protocol treatments at corporate pharmacies.

Keywords: [sir ducifer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sir-ducifer.md), covid pneumonia, [ivermectin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ivermectin.md), [cvs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cvs.md), [walgreens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/walgreens.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Universal Healthcare Agenda, Liverpool Protocol, Sam Page Gaffe (1:01:44–1:05:25)

The hosts speculate whether the current healthcare crisis is being used to collapse the private system and usher in universal basic healthcare. They mention the "Liverpool Protocol" in the UK's NHS as a cautionary tale of government-run end-of-life care. Additionally, they play a clip of St. Louis County Executive Sam Page accidentally saying children are becoming ill "with vaccine" instead of "without."

Keywords: universal basic healthcare, liverpool protocol, [nhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nhs.md), sam page, [st. louis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/st-louis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation India Vaccine Scandal (1:05:27–1:10:03)

Drawing from a James Corbett documentary, the hosts detail a 2009 Gates-funded HPV vaccine study in India that was investigated for human rights violations and lack of informed consent. The Indian government eventually cut ties with the Gates Foundation's advisory group in 2017 due to conflicts of interest and the perception that Indian citizens were being used as "guinea pigs" for Big Pharma.

Keywords: [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [hpv vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hpv-vaccine.md), path, [glaxosmithkline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glaxosmithkline.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Gates Foundation Meningitis, Malaria, and Polio Fiascos (1:10:03–1:13:26)

The hosts review several other controversial Gates Foundation initiatives, including a meningitis vaccine in Africa linked to paralysis and a malaria program criticized by the WHO for stifling scientific debate. They also highlight reports from 2017 and 2018 showing that the majority of new polio cases in some regions were actually vaccine-derived rather than wild-type.

Keywords: [meningitis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meningitis.md), [malaria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malaria.md), [polio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/polio.md), [gavi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavi.md), vaccine-derived polio

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Airline Vaccine Mandates, Southwest and American Airlines Policies (1:13:30–1:15:30)

CEOs of Southwest, American, and Delta Airlines have announced they will not mandate COVID-19 vaccines for their employees, opting instead for incentives like extra pay or time off. This contrasts with United and Frontier Airlines, which have implemented strict mandates. Adam Curry expresses his intent to only support companies that respect employee medical freedom.

Keywords: [american airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-airlines.md), [southwest airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/southwest-airlines.md), [delta airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-airlines.md), [united airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-airlines.md), [vaccine mandates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-mandates.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Domestic Pets and COVID-19, UC Davis Veterinary Study (1:15:30–1:17:50)

A report from UC Davis discusses the transmission of COVID-19 from humans to domestic pets, particularly cats. While most animals show mild symptoms, the hosts suggest this narrative is a precursor to marketing COVID-19 vaccines for pets. They joke about the public's likely outrage if the government begins mandating shots for dogs and cats.

Keywords: [uc davis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uc-davis.md), [cats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cats.md), [dogs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dogs.md), [usda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usda.md), [pet vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pet-vaccines.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Vaping Pneumonia 2019, Fort Detrick Closure, COVID-19 Origins (1:17:51–1:22:03)

The hosts revisit the 2019 "vaping pneumonia" outbreak in the U.S., noting that the lung scans showed "ground glass opacities" identical to COVID-19. They link this timeline to the temporary closure of the bioweapons facility at Fort Detrick in August 2019. They suggest that the virus may have been circulating in the U.S. earlier than officially acknowledged before being shunted to Wuhan.

Keywords: [fort detrick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fort-detrick.md), vaping pneumonia, ground glass opacities, [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [2019](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2019.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Gain-of-Function Research, Chinese Manufacturing Carelessness (1:22:04–1:24:42)

The discussion turns to the banning of gain-of-function research in the U.S. and its subsequent move to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. John C. Dvorak contrasts the precision engineering of Switzerland with what he describes as the "carelessness" and "griminess" of Chinese manufacturing, suggesting the lab leak was likely an accidental result of poor safety protocols.

Keywords: [gain-of-function](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gain-of-function.md), [wuhan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan.md), [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), [manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing.md), [switzerland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/switzerland.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/29.md)

### 30. QAnon Reinstatement Theories, Hillary Clinton Guantanamo Rumors (1:24:43–1:28:06)

Adam Curry discusses the prevalence of fringe theories among some wealthy Republicans in Texas, including the belief that Donald Trump would be reinstated on August 11th following an internet blackout. He also mentions rumors regarding Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton being detained at Guantanamo Bay. The hosts clarify that they do not cover these stories as news but deconstruct them as cultural phenomena.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [guantanamo bay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/guantanamo-bay.md), [internet blackout](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-blackout.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Podcasting 2.0, De-platforming, Emergency Alert System (1:28:06–1:31:02)

The hosts discuss the de-platforming of certain podcasts by Apple and the importance of the Podcasting 2.0 initiative. They also address the failed prediction of a national emergency alert system activation on August 11th. They argue that mainstream media's failure to engage with the public has driven many to seek out alternative, and sometimes "screwy," information sources.

Keywords: [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [x22 report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/x22-report.md), [emergency alert system](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emergency-alert-system.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Mike Lindell Cyber Symposium, Voting Machine Vulnerabilities (1:31:03–1:34:20)

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell held a 72-hour "Cyber Symposium" regarding election integrity. While the hosts criticize the production quality, they note that the symposium presented evidence of vulnerabilities in voting machines and alleged Chinese interference. They observe that the narrative of election fraud has now flipped, with Republicans making the same claims Democrats made in 2016.

Keywords: [mike lindell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-lindell.md), cyber symposium, [voting machines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voting-machines.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [election integrity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-integrity.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/32.md)

### 33. History of MSNBC, Microsoft Partnership, Princess Diana Coverage (1:34:20–1:37:44)

John C. Dvorak recounts the early days of MSNBC as a joint venture between Microsoft and NBC. He explains how the network pivoted from tech news to celebrity coverage following the death of Princess Diana, which significantly boosted their ratings. Adam Curry shares an anecdote about being in the control room during the network's launch with Tom Brokaw and Bill Clinton.

Keywords: [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [tom brokaw](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-brokaw.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [princess diana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/princess-diana.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Media Production Techniques, IFB Earpieces, Sports Stats (1:37:44–1:41:39)

The hosts deconstruct how television news and sports broadcasts use IFB (Interruptible Foldback) earpieces to feed information to anchors and guests in real-time. They explain that many "spontaneous" facts and statistics are actually being read from databases like Bloomberg or Infrastrata. This technique creates an illusion of expertise for the audience.

Keywords: [ifb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ifb.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [sports broadcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sports-broadcasting.md), [bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloomberg.md), [media deconstruction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-deconstruction.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/34.md)

### 35. South Africa Infrastructure Collapse, New York Times Reporting (1:41:40–1:45:36)

South Africa is facing a severe infrastructure collapse and civil unrest following the arrest of former President Jacob Zuma. The hosts criticize a New York Times article that attributes the coordination of the unrest to a "disinfo dozen" on social media. They argue that the real cause is years of equity-based hiring and government corruption that degraded the country's power grid.

Keywords: [south africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-africa.md), [jacob zuma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jacob-zuma.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), daily maverick, [rolling blackouts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rolling-blackouts.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/35.md)

### 36. U.S. Infrastructure Bill, Amtrak vs. Highway Spending (1:45:37–1:49:40)

The hosts discuss the Biden administration's infrastructure bill, noting that it allocates as much money to Amtrak and public transit as it does to the national highway system, despite transit accounting for less than 1% of total passenger miles. They compare this to poor corporate marketing strategies where companies invest in failing products rather than successful ones.

Keywords: [infrastructure bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure-bill.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [amtrak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amtrak.md), highway system, [heritage foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heritage-foundation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Value for Value Model, No Agenda Social, Troll Room (1:49:40–1:54:02)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak explain the "Value for Value" funding model that has sustained the show for 14 years. They encourage listeners to contribute time, talent, or treasure based on the value they receive. They also promote No Agenda Social, their federated Mastodon instance, and the "Troll Room" chat for live stream listeners.

Keywords: [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md), [troll room](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/troll-room.md), [crowdfunding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crowdfunding.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Show Art Awards, Bald Nancy, Behavioral Science Unit (1:54:02–1:59:27)

The hosts review the artwork submitted for recent episodes. They discuss the controversy surrounding the "Bald Nancy" art by Nessworks, which was discovered to be modified clip art. They also highlight the "Behavioral Science Unit" challenge coin art and discuss the rules for legibility and originality in show art submissions.

Keywords: [show art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-art.md), [nessworks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nessworks.md), bald nancy, behavioral science unit, [clip art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clip-art.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Executive Producer Donations, Knighting Ceremony, Bastrop Meetup (1:59:27–2:06:54)

A major donation of $10,000 from Alicia in Bastrop, Texas, leads to her being named a Duchess. She requests the "Magical Shape-shifting Jews" jingle, which the hosts explain originated from a bizarre news report about the Charlie Hebdo attacks. Plans for a No Agenda meetup at Alicia's homestead in Bastrop are discussed.

Keywords: alicia julian, [bastrop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bastrop.md), [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [xrp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xrp.md), [shape-shifting jews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shape-shifting-jews.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/39.md)

### 40. New Knights and Dames, 1373 Club, Sobriety Anniversary (2:06:56–2:14:30)

Several producers are knighted after significant donations, including Sir Martin of Tampa Bay, who celebrates 20 years of sobriety. Other new knights include Sir Michael of Fiji and Sir Cuttasoff from Canada. The hosts read their personal notes and grant their requests for specific "round table" foods and karma.

Keywords: sir martin, sir michael, sir cuttasoff, [sobriety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sobriety.md), [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Relationship Karma, Birthday Shoutouts, Angel Numbers (2:14:31–2:22:58)

The hosts process various donations for relationship karma and birthdays. They discuss the significance of "angel numbers" like 333 and 311 in producer donations. Vinnie Visconti and his wife Sinead are highlighted for their support and their "exit strategy" from the current political environment.

Keywords: vinnie visconti, [333](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/333.md), 311, [relationship karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/relationship-karma.md), [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Linux Audio Karma, Ace Hardware Handgun Purchase (2:22:58–2:31:00)

Sir Thoth of Sahala is thanked for helping Adam Curry with Linux audio configurations. Adam shares a story about visiting a local Ace Hardware in Texas to purchase a handgun and a grill, noting how the "No Agenda" brand is well-recognized among the local population in the Hill Country.

Keywords: [linux](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linux.md), sir thoth, ace hardware, [handguns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/handguns.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Eviction Moratorium Impact, California Landlord Struggles (2:31:00–2:39:14)

A producer from Kentucky shares the struggle of her parents, who are small-scale landlords in San Diego. They have been unable to collect back rent or evict non-paying tenants due to the moratorium, despite tenants purchasing new cars and boats. The hosts use this to illustrate the unintended consequences of government interference in the rental market.

Keywords: [eviction moratorium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eviction-moratorium.md), [san diego](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-diego.md), [landlords](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/landlords.md), back rent, [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Pizzeria Violetta, Child Voice Directing, Sparky the Dog Anecdote (2:39:15–2:48:31)

Baroness Sarah and Sucker Baby Violet announce the opening of Pizzeria Violetta in Piedmont, California. The hosts discuss the challenges of directing children for show jingles, leading to a classic Hollywood anecdote about W.C. Fields and a child actor being told their dog had died to elicit tears for a scene.

Keywords: [pizzeria violetta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pizzeria-violetta.md), piedmont, child actors, [w.c. fields](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/w-c-fields.md), [adios mofos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adios-mofos.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Andrew Cuomo Resignation, Sexual Harassment Allegations (2:48:31–2:53:31)

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has resigned following a series of sexual harassment allegations. The hosts play a supercut of media figures previously praising Cuomo as a "hero" and "shadow president" during the pandemic. They discuss the specific testimony of Brittany Commisso, which they believe was the final straw for his administration.

Keywords: [andrew cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-cuomo.md), [resignation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/resignation.md), [sexual harassment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-harassment.md), [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md), [emmy award](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emmy-award.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Kathy Hochul Transition, Cuomo "Grope Line" Comments (2:53:31–2:59:49)

Lieutenant Governor Kathy Hochul prepares to take over as New York's first female governor, promising to end the "toxic work environment" of the Cuomo era. The hosts also discuss Attorney General Letitia James's report, which included the phrase "working a grope line" to describe Cuomo's behavior at public events. They reflect on the Cuomo family legacy and the fall of Mario Cuomo's sons.

Keywords: [kathy hochul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kathy-hochul.md), [letitia james](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/letitia-james.md), [toxic work environment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toxic-work-environment.md), [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md), [mario cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mario-cuomo.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Robin Comic Book Character Coming Out, ESG and Wokeness (2:59:49–3:04:06)

DC Comics has revealed that the character Tim Drake (Robin) is bisexual in a new issue. The hosts criticize NPR for covering this as a major news story, arguing it is a corporate promotion driven by ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) scores. They suggest that "wokeness" is being used as a marketing tool for investors rather than a genuine social movement.

Keywords: robin, [dc comics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dc-comics.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [esg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/esg.md), [wokeness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wokeness.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Woke Inc. and the Social Justice Scam, DOJ Bank Settlements (3:04:06–3:11:51)

Vivek Ramaswamy, author of "Woke Inc.," explains how the Obama administration's Department of Justice used bank settlements to fund left-wing nonprofits. Instead of paying fines to the U.S. Treasury, banks were given credits for donating to specific NGOs. The hosts describe this as a "social justice scam" that bypasses Congressional oversight to fund political agendas.

Keywords: [vivek ramaswamy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vivek-ramaswamy.md), woke inc, [doj](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/doj.md), [obama administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obama-administration.md), [ngos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ngos.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/48.md)

### 49. IPCC Climate Report, Code Red for Humanity, Failed Predictions (3:11:52–3:17:23)

The UN's IPCC has released a new report issuing a "code red for humanity" regarding global warming. The hosts contrast the dire media headlines with a report from the Heritage Foundation and Steve Malloy of JunkScience.com, which highlights decades of failed climate predictions, such as the melting of Mount Kilimanjaro's snow by 2020.

Keywords: [ipcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipcc.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [un](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/un.md), [heritage foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heritage-foundation.md), steve malloy

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Extinction Clock, Failed Environmental Forecasts (3:17:24–3:20:34)

The hosts reference "extinctionclock.org," a website that tracks failed environmental and climate predictions from the last several decades. Examples include a 2003 prediction of massive species extinction by 2023 and a 2017 claim that the Hoover Dam would stop providing water to Las Vegas by 2021. They argue that the media's constant state of alarm is historically inaccurate.

Keywords: extinction clock, [hoover dam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hoover-dam.md), [global cooling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-cooling.md), species extinction, [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Michael Mann Climate Interview, Connecting Dots to COVID (3:20:35–3:26:27)

Climate scientist Michael Mann appears on ABC with George Stephanopoulos to discuss the IPCC report. Mann claims that climate change is now visible "on television screens and in newspaper headlines." The hosts speculate that the next phase of the narrative will involve connecting climate change to COVID-19, potentially using pollution levels in Wuhan as a link to justify "climate lockdowns."

Keywords: [michael mann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-mann.md), [george stephanopoulos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-stephanopoulos.md), [carbon emissions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-emissions.md), [wuhan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan.md), [pollution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pollution.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/51.md)

### 52. U.S. Oil Production, Offshore Wind Farm Surveys (3:26:27–3:29:47)

The Biden administration has requested that OPEC increase oil production to lower gas prices, while domestic fracking operations remain stagnant due to regulatory uncertainty. John C. Dvorak shares his experience participating in a survey regarding the repurposing of abandoned oil rigs off the coast of California into offshore wind farms.

Keywords: [opec](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opec.md), [fracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fracking.md), [oil prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-prices.md), [santa barbara](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/santa-barbara.md), [wind farms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wind-farms.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/52.md)

### 53. Final Donor Credits, Sir Chris Wilson Mix, Show Sign-off (3:29:48–3:37:30)

The show concludes with a final reading of producer credits and birthday wishes. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off from Texas and California, respectively. The episode ends with a custom musical mix by Sir Chris Wilson that parodies the "Day-O" song with COVID-themed lyrics.

Keywords: [sir chris wilson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sir-chris-wilson.md), [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [texas hill country](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas-hill-country.md), [adios mofos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adios-mofos.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1372-grope-line/chapter/53.md)

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