# Miley Cyrus Meets Hannah Montana > Record gold prices and a massive defense spending bill signal a shift in the American empire as the H1N1 vaccine campaign reaches a fever pitch. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 137 - **Published:** 2009-10-08 - **Length:** 1h 17m - **Topics:** Gold record, [H1N1 vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h1n1-vaccine.md), [Lisbon Treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisbon-treaty.md), Monsanto pigweed, [Defense bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/defense-bill.md), FAST program - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana ## About this episode Gold prices surged to a record $1,050 per ounce as the U.S. Mint suspended production of certain gold coins, signaling a potential supply crisis or a shift toward government hoarding. Technical trader Paul Sabo predicts a long-term climb toward $8,000, drawing parallels to the 1933 Executive Order 6102 that prohibited private gold ownership. Meanwhile, the U.S. Senate passed a $636 billion defense bill in a 93-7 vote, securing massive funding for Iraq and Afghanistan while explicitly blocking the closure of the Guantanamo Bay detention facility. Former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer publicly lauded President Barack Obama for maintaining George W. Bush-era policies on warrantless wiretaps and secret renditions. In California, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency over the H1N1 swine flu, fueling a massive CDC marketing campaign for the Flu Mist nasal spray despite conflicting safety data for toddlers. Farmers in the South report that Monsanto Roundup-resistant pigweed is now choking over a million acres of cotton and soybeans, while the Department of Homeland Security tests Future Attribute Screening Technology to monitor traveler heart rates and blinking. Speaker Nancy Pelosi also signaled that a national Value-Added Tax remains on the table to address mounting federal deficits. John Schuman takes the lead as executive producer for this session as the search for a 24-7 stream manager narrows down from thirty candidates. Swine flu survivor Eva shares her recovery story using only over-the-counter Sudafed, and the recent sales spike for Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged highlights a growing cultural anxiety regarding the 250-year empire cycle. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the week's media distractions. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/transcript.md. ### 1. John Schuman Named Executive Producer for Episode 137 (0:01–1:37) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 137 of the No Agenda podcast, titled "Gitmo Nation Media Assassination." They announce John Schuman as the executive producer for the episode, a title granted to him for providing the highest donation. The hosts discuss the new policy of giving pre-roll credits to top donors. Keywords: john schuman, [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [donation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Transbay Joint Powers Authority Eminent Domain and Noise Complaints (1:37–4:06) A host describes a conflict with the Transbay Joint Powers Authority (TJPA) regarding early morning construction noise in San Francisco. Despite city ordinances prohibiting noise before 7:00 AM, crews began work at 6:45 AM. After a complaint to TJPA representative Mila Gonzalez, the crews reportedly began even earlier the following day at 6:30 AM. Keywords: transbay joint powers authority, [eminent domain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eminent-domain.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), mila gonzalez, [noise ordinance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noise-ordinance.md), [construction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/construction.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Mike Singletary and San Francisco 49ers Coaching Success (4:08–5:48) The discussion shifts to Mike Singletary, the head coach of the San Francisco 49ers. Singletary, a former Chicago Bears linebacker, took over the struggling team mid-season and led them to a winning streak. The hosts highlight his intense personality and the initial controversy surrounding his lack of head coaching experience. Keywords: [mike singletary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-singletary.md), [san francisco 49ers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco-49ers.md), [nfl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nfl.md), [chicago bears](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago-bears.md), football coaching [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Gold Prices Reach All-Time High of $1,050 (5:49–10:14) Gold prices reached a record high of $1,050, prompting a discussion on long-term investment strategies. One host recounts a meeting with Paul Sabo, a technical trader at Crosslink, who predicts gold could reach $5,000 or $8,000 per ounce. An anecdote is shared regarding a 2001 disagreement with Dennis Neal of CNBC, who at the time claimed gold would never increase in value. Keywords: [gold](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold.md), crosslink, paul sabo, [technical analysis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technical-analysis.md), [investment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/investment.md), [forbes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/forbes.md), dennis neal [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/4.md) ### 5. No Agenda 24-7 Media Stream and Expert Reluctance (10:15–11:58) Plans are discussed to expand the No Agenda brand into a 24-7 media stream. The hosts express interest in featuring technical trader Paul Sabo for weekly market insights. They note that many financial experts are reluctant to share specific knowledge publicly due to fears of litigation or regulatory scrutiny. Keywords: media stream, paul sabo, technical trading, [stock tips](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stock-tips.md), [financial advice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/financial-advice.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Historical Empire Cycles and General Stanley McChrystal (11:59–15:09) The conversation explores the historical 250-year cycle of empires, referencing historian Arnold Toynbee. The hosts suggest the United States is nearing the end of its natural cycle, exacerbated by foreign wars. General Stanley McChrystal's leadership in Afghanistan is criticized, specifically his intense personal habits profiled on 60 Minutes. Keywords: [arnold toynbee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arnold-toynbee.md), empire cycles, [stanley mcchrystal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stanley-mcchrystal.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [thomas jefferson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thomas-jefferson.md), [60 minutes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/60-minutes.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Senate Passes $636 Billion Defense Bill (15:10–16:56) The U.S. Senate passed a $636 billion defense bill with a 93-7 vote. The legislation includes $128.2 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and ends production of the Lockheed Martin F-22 fighter. Notably, the bill prohibits the transfer of Guantanamo Bay detainees to the United States, contradicting previous administration promises. Keywords: [defense bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/defense-bill.md), [lockheed martin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockheed-martin.md), [f-22](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-22.md), [guantanamo bay](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/guantanamo-bay.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [iraq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iraq.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Ari Fleischer Praises Obama for Continuing Bush Policies (16:56–19:38) Former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer praised President Barack Obama for maintaining several George W. Bush-era counter-terrorism policies. Fleischer cited the continuation of secret renditions and warrantless wiretaps as positive steps. The hosts argue that the internet is helping citizens realize that campaign promises regarding civil liberties are being ignored. Keywords: [ari fleischer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ari-fleischer.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [george w. bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-w-bush.md), secret renditions, warrantless wiretaps, [counter-terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/counter-terrorism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/8.md) ### 9. US Mint Suspends Gold Coin Production (19:39–22:20) The U.S. Mint has reportedly stopped minting certain gold coins due to high demand or lack of supply. This is compared to President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Executive Order 6102 in 1933, which prohibited the hoarding of gold bullion. The hosts speculate on the possibility of future government gold seizures. Keywords: [us mint](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/us-mint.md), [gold coins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold-coins.md), executive order 6102, [franklin d. roosevelt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/franklin-d-roosevelt.md), gold hoarding [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Baucus Health Care Bill and Shell Bill Tactics (22:21–26:41) The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released a report on the Baucus health care bill, estimating it will cost $829 billion over ten years while reducing the deficit. The hosts discuss a religious exemption for Christian Scientists and the legislative tactic of "shell bills," where health care language is inserted into unrelated bills like H.R. 1586. Keywords: [baucus bill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baucus-bill.md), [congressional budget office](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congressional-budget-office.md), [health care reform](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-care-reform.md), christian science, shell bill, [tarp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tarp.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Democratic Party Internal Dynamics and Racism Claims (26:43–28:17) The hosts address a listener's claim that the Democratic Party contains internal elements working against President Obama's success. They explore the concept of "soft bigotry" in social programs. Additionally, they respond to a producer from the UK who criticized the show's recent lack of international coverage. Keywords: [democratic party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-party.md), [racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racism.md), [political strategy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-strategy.md), lee donaghy, international coverage [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Lisbon Treaty and the Rise of the European Union (28:17–33:13) The potential ratification of the Lisbon Treaty is discussed as the foundation for a new European empire, with Tony Blair as a possible president. The hosts debate whether the next global power will be the EU or China. They also reference the Trilateral Commission's alleged plan for a unified world government. Keywords: [lisbon treaty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisbon-treaty.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [tony blair](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tony-blair.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [trilateral commission](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trilateral-commission.md), [one world government](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/one-world-government.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Value-Added Tax Proposals and California Bankruptcy (33:14–36:33) Speaker Nancy Pelosi suggested on the Charlie Rose show that a Value-Added Tax (VAT) might be considered for the United States. The hosts complain about the high tax burden in California, which they estimate at 65% to 70% when combining income, sales, and fuel taxes. They criticize San Francisco's spending on a new bus terminal. Keywords: [value-added tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-added-tax.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [charlie rose](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-rose.md), california taxes, [sales tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sales-tax.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/13.md) ### 14. DHS FAST Program and Anal Cavity Explosives (36:33–40:22) The Department of Homeland Security is developing the Future Attribute Screening Technology (FAST) to monitor physiological signs like heart rate and blinking in travelers. Simultaneously, the French Secret Service (DGSE) has issued warnings about suicide bombers hiding explosives in anal cavities, leading to concerns about invasive TSA screenings. Keywords: [department of homeland security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-homeland-security.md), fast program, [tsa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tsa.md), [suicide bombers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suicide-bombers.md), french secret service, [dgse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dgse.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/14.md) ### 15. German Voting Machines and Dubai Underground Culture (40:22–42:45) The hosts correct previous statements about German voting, noting that the country banned voting machines following hacks by the Chaos Computer Club. They also revisit a debate regarding Janeane Garofalo's comments on Dubai, clarifying that while Dubai has a repressed public culture, it maintains a significant illegal underground scene. Keywords: [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [voting machines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voting-machines.md), [chaos computer club](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chaos-computer-club.md), [dubai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dubai.md), [janeane garofalo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/janeane-garofalo.md), sexualized culture [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Monsanto Roundup-Resistant Pigweed in US Farmland (42:45–46:29) Farmers in the Southern United States are struggling with "pigweed" that has become immune to Monsanto's Roundup herbicide. The weed is reportedly choking over a million acres of cotton and soybeans. The hosts mock mainstream media coverage of the "super weed" and discuss it as a classic example of natural selection. Keywords: [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [roundup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roundup.md), pigweed, charles gibson, [evolution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evolution.md), cotton farming [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/16.md) ### 17. ACORN Internal Investigation and Media Distractions (46:30–49:04) Bertha Lewis, CEO of ACORN, released an internal investigation following a series of undercover sting operations. The hosts argue that the focus on ACORN is a media distraction designed to draw attention away from massive military spending and the continued operation of the Guantanamo Bay detention center. Keywords: [acorn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/acorn.md), bertha lewis, [glenn beck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-beck.md), [nicaragua](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicaragua.md), [political correctness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-correctness.md), [media distraction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-distraction.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Senator Lieberman and FBI-NYPD Relations Hearing (49:04–54:38) Senator Joseph Lieberman presided over a Homeland Security committee hearing featuring FBI Director Robert Mueller. The hearing addressed reported friction between the FBI and the NYPD during the Zazi investigation. The hosts criticize the hearing as "window dressing" and complain about the lack of access to C-SPAN 3. Keywords: joseph lieberman, [robert mueller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-mueller.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [nypd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nypd.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [joint terrorism task force](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joint-terrorism-task-force.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/18.md) ### 19. H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine Marketing Campaign (54:38–59:56) The CDC has launched a massive immunization campaign for the H1N1 virus, featuring the "Flu Mist" nasal spray. The hosts analyze a CBS News report that uses dramatic imagery, including medical tents and critically ill children in Oklahoma, to encourage vaccine uptake. They characterize the campaign as a financial "money grab." Keywords: [h1n1](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/h1n1.md), [swine flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swine-flu.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [flu mist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu-mist.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), oklahoma children's hospital [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/19.md) ### 20. California State of Emergency and Vaccine Safety (59:56–1:05:21) Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency in California due to the H1N1 outbreak. The hosts discuss public superstition regarding the virus and share an anecdote about a doctor recommending the vaccine for 18-month-old twins, despite CDC sheets advising against it for children under two. 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Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), fresh american bison, [tel aviv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tel-aviv.md), [antwerp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antwerp.md), [cancun](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cancun.md), john schuman [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Live Interview with Swine Flu Survivor Eva (1:09:14–1:11:05) Eva, an assistant at the hosts' office, describes her recent experience with a confirmed case of H1N1. She lists her symptoms as fever, cough, headache, and fatigue, lasting approximately five days. She notes that she recovered using standard over-the-counter medications like Sudafed and Tylenol without using Tamiflu. Keywords: h1n1 symptoms, [fever](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fever.md), [fatigue](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fatigue.md), [sudafed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sudafed.md), [tylenol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tylenol.md), [recovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recovery.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/137-miley-cyrus-meets-hannah-montana/chapter/22.md) ### 23. No Agenda Knighthood and Stream Manager Search (1:11:06–1:14:00) The hosts discuss the "Knighthood" program for donors who contribute $50 a month, suggesting a future ceremonial component. They also provide an update on their search for a stream manager to handle the 24-7 No Agenda audio feed, noting they are currently interviewing 25 to 30 candidates. 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