# Bunny Hugging > Global leaders navigate a collapsing Indian healthcare system and a permanent booster shot future while domestic vaccine demand hits a terminal tipping point. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 1341 - **Published:** 2021-04-25 - **Length:** 3h 7m - **Topics:** India Crisis, Bunny Hugging, Vaccine Boosters, [NASCAR](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nascar.md), [Armenian Genocide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/armenian-genocide.md), [Climate Summit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-summit.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging ## About this episode Prime Minister Narendra Modi faces intense scrutiny as India’s healthcare system buckles under a massive COVID-19 surge, leading to critical oxygen shortages in Mumbai and Delhi. While international manufacturers plead with the Biden administration to lift export bans on raw materials, high-income nations continue to block patent waivers that would allow for localized vaccine production. The crisis has sparked a wave of political tension as visual media coverage of crematoriums clashes with official government narratives during a high-stakes election cycle. In the United States, the CDC and FDA face a credibility gap following the temporary pause of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, which has triggered a sharp decline in overall demand. Major League Baseball stadiums are experimenting with vaccinated-only seating sections that still require masks, while Detroit and Kansas officials report mass vaccination sites sitting nearly empty. Meanwhile, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has secured a multi-year deal with Pfizer for upgraded booster shots through 2024, signaling a permanent shift toward a recurring injection model. Social media platforms like Facebook and TikTok are under fire for censoring reports of adverse reactions while simultaneously hosting undisclosed paid promotions from government-funded influencers. Boris Johnson introduces the phrase bunny hugging to describe green policies at a global climate summit where President Biden remained masked during a virtual Zoom call. NASCAR legend Dale Jarrett attempts to revive interest in the rollout through new televised advertisements as the International Olympic Committee officially bans political gestures like taking the knee. The episode concludes with a rain stick ritual intended to break the California drought and a look at the sinking foundations of Washington DC. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/transcript.md. ### 1. Rain Stick Ritual for California Drought Relief (0:00–1:40) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1341 from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. They perform a ritual using a handmade "Rain 6" stick from Utah to encourage rainfall in California. The hosts briefly mock global warming predictions and poor fire management in the state. Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [austin texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin-texas.md), [rain stick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rain-stick.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [drought](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drought.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/1.md) ### 2. India COVID-19 Surge and Workplace Reports (1:43–5:26) A correction is made regarding a newsletter error that confused Italy with India's current COVID-19 outbreak. Reports from producers and colleagues in Chennai and Tuscany describe hospital bed shortages and the impact of the virus on outsourced programming teams. One report mentions the use of a "ready pack" treatment as an alternative to hospitalization. Keywords: [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [chennai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chennai.md), [tuscany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tuscany.md), [outsourcing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outsourcing.md), ready pack, [hospital beds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hospital-beds.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Vaccine Hesitancy and Johnson & Johnson Pause (5:27–10:02) The hosts analyze the decline in vaccination rates following the temporary market removal of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. They argue that government messaging claiming all vaccines are the same caused the public to lose confidence in Pfizer and Moderna as well. A news gaffe where a reporter said "euthanized" instead of "immunized" is highlighted as a symbolic error. Keywords: [johnson & johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/johnson-johnson.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [vaccine hesitancy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-hesitancy.md), [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), [scott gottlieb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-gottlieb.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/3.md) ### 4. NPR Coverage of India Oxygen Shortage (10:03–13:40) NPR reports on the collapsing health system in India, focusing on critical oxygen shortages in Mumbai and Delhi. The hosts express skepticism regarding the reported death tolls and the suddenness of the crisis. Discussion includes a proposal by India to waive patent rights for COVID-19 vaccines, which high-income countries are currently blocking. Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [mumbai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mumbai.md), [delhi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delhi.md), [oxygen shortage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oxygen-shortage.md), patent waiver, lauren frayer [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Prime Minister Modi and Indian Pandemic Politics (13:40–18:07) Prime Minister Narendra Modi faces public backlash for presiding over large political rallies during a surge in COVID-19 cases. The hosts question the narrative presented by Scientific American and other outlets, suggesting the crisis might be leveraged for political positioning against Modi. They compare the visual media coverage of Indian crematoriums to previous pandemic reporting patterns. Keywords: [narendra modi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/narendra-modi.md), [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [scientific american](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scientific-american.md), [pakistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pakistan.md), [covid variants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-variants.md), [crematoriums](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crematoriums.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Vaccine Manufacturing and Logistics in India (18:08–21:42) India's vaccine manufacturers are reportedly pleading with the Biden administration to lift export bans on raw materials. The hosts question why a major manufacturer would lack basic supplies like test tubes. Additional reports describe strict regional lockdowns in Mumbai and the use of social media as a lifeline for citizens seeking medical help. Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [vaccine manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-manufacturing.md), test tubes, export ban, [raw materials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/raw-materials.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Canada Pfizer Booster Deal and Upgrades (21:43–23:51) Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announces a multi-year agreement with Pfizer to secure millions of booster doses through 2024. The hosts discuss the transition to a model of recurring vaccinations, noting that these boosters are marketed as "upgraded" versions of the original vaccine to handle new variants. Keywords: [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [pfizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pfizer.md), [booster shots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/booster-shots.md), [justin trudeau](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justin-trudeau.md), [israel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/israel.md), [mrna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mrna.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/7.md) ### 8. TikTok Vaccine Influencers and FTC Violations (23:53–26:12) A TikTok influencer's video about renting a car specifically to visit a drive-thru vaccination site is criticized as a paid promotion. The hosts suggest these videos are part of a $3 billion federal campaign to promote vaccination. They note a lack of FTC disclosure in these social media posts. Keywords: [tiktok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiktok.md), [influencers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/influencers.md), [ftc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ftc.md), [jen psaki](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jen-psaki.md), [vaccine promotion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-promotion.md), [car rentals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/car-rentals.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/8.md) ### 9. NASCAR Vaccine Promotion with Dale Jarrett (26:37–29:49) NASCAR legend Dale Jarrett appears in an NBC-sponsored advertisement encouraging fans to get vaccinated to return to full-capacity grandstands. The hosts mock the script and the choice of a retired driver to reach the current NASCAR demographic. They argue the campaign feels desperate as mass vaccination sites sit empty. Keywords: [nascar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nascar.md), dale jarrett, [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [daytona 500](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daytona-500.md), vaccine ads [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Vaccinated Seating Sections and Mask Mandates (29:50–32:20) Major League Baseball stadiums, including Dodger Stadium and Oracle Park, introduce special seating sections for vaccinated fans. Despite proof of vaccination, fans in these sections are still required to wear masks. The hosts and medical experts from UCSF discuss the perceived risks and the psychological impact of these mandates. Keywords: [dodger stadium](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dodger-stadium.md), oracle park, [ucsf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ucsf.md), [masks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/masks.md), vaccinated sections, [baseball](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baseball.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Pediatric Vaccine Hesitancy and Clinical Trials (32:20–35:14) NBC News reports on "parent hesitancy" as pharmaceutical companies lobby the FDA to lower the age for vaccine eligibility. The segment features parents who are vaccinated themselves but hesitant to enroll their children in trials or administer the shot to minors. The hosts highlight the lack of long-term data for the pediatric population. Keywords: [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [pediatric vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pediatric-vaccine.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [emergency use authorization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emergency-use-authorization.md), [parents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parents.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Tipping Point in US Vaccine Demand (35:14–38:32) The US reaches a tipping point where vaccine supply exceeds demand, leading to empty sites and the refusal of new shipments in dozens of Kansas counties. The Biden administration introduces tax credits for businesses that provide paid time off for vaccinations. Media outlets attribute the slowdown to "red state" resistance. Keywords: [herd immunity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/herd-immunity.md), [kansas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kansas.md), [biden administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biden-administration.md), [tax credits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-credits.md), [red states](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-states.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Sanjay Gupta on Boosters and Natural Immunity (38:32–41:45) Dr. Sanjay Gupta discusses the longevity of vaccine protection and the potential need for boosters. He references 2003 SARS data showing natural immunity lasting 17 years. The hosts question the necessity of boosters for variants if the vaccine targets the fundamental spike protein mechanism of all coronaviruses. Keywords: [sanjay gupta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanjay-gupta.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [sars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sars.md), [antibodies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antibodies.md), spike proteins, [boosters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boosters.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/13.md) ### 14. FactCheck.org Funding and Conflicts of Interest (41:45–43:34) The hosts examine the funding of FactCheck.org’s "Sci-Check" division, noting a $50,000 donation and Johnson & Johnson stock from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. They highlight that the foundation's CEO is a former CDC director, raising concerns about conflicts of interest in social media fact-checking. Keywords: [factcheck.org](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/factcheck-org.md), [robert wood johnson foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-wood-johnson-foundation.md), [johnson & johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/johnson-johnson.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [conflict of interest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conflict-of-interest.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Adverse Reactions and Social Media Censorship (43:34–47:18) Facebook reportedly deleted a large group dedicated to sharing stories of vaccine side effects. Comedian Jimmy Dore’s tweet about lingering flu-like symptoms after his second Moderna shot is discussed, along with a reply from a congressional candidate who developed Bell's palsy following vaccination. Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [jimmy dore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-dore.md), [bell's palsy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bell-s-palsy.md), [moderna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moderna.md), [adverse reactions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adverse-reactions.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/15.md) ### 16. False Positives and Psychotic Episode Claims (47:18–49:48) A producer report suggests that MRI technicians are seeing false-positive breast cancer results in recently vaccinated women due to inflamed lymph nodes. Another anecdote describes elderly patients experiencing psychotic episodes post-vaccination. A local news story about a 70-year-old man shooting up his own house is tentatively linked to these claims. Keywords: [mri](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mri.md), [breast cancer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/breast-cancer.md), [psychosis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/psychosis.md), [bay area](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bay-area.md), [elderly](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elderly.md), [side effects](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/side-effects.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Detroit Vaccine Outreach and Empty Sites (49:48–51:18) Despite Governor Gretchen Whitmer's previous pleas for more supply, vaccination sites in Detroit like the TCF Center are now seeing almost no foot traffic. The city is shifting toward "vaccine squads" to bring doses directly into neighborhoods as demand craters. Keywords: [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), tcf center, [gretchen whitmer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gretchen-whitmer.md), mobile vaccine units, [health department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-department.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/17.md) ### 18. New York Traveler Health Forms and Funeral Home Clinics (51:19–53:34) A traveler arriving at JFK from Amsterdam reports new questions on New York State health forms regarding vaccination status and COVID-19 history. In Chicago, a funeral home begins hosting vaccination clinics. Meanwhile, the CDC considers relaxing outdoor mask guidance for vaccinated individuals. Keywords: [jfk airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jfk-airport.md), [schiphol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schiphol.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), [funeral homes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/funeral-homes.md), [masks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/masks.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Canadian Quarantine Hotels and Red Cross Detention (53:34–55:47) A Red Cross worker at a Canadian quarantine hotel describes "arbitrary detention" of travelers, including those who test negative. Reports indicate poor food quality and a lack of communication with public health officers. The worker notes a high volume of travelers arriving from India into Toronto and Winnipeg. Keywords: [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [red cross](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-cross.md), [quarantine hotels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quarantine-hotels.md), [toronto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toronto.md), [winnipeg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/winnipeg.md), [human rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Oregon Hospital Capacity and Church Confrontations (55:48–57:49) An Oregon hospital report shows ICU capacity at 99%, which the hosts claim is standard target capacity rather than a crisis. In Calgary, a preacher again confronts police and health officials attempting to enter his church during a service, labeling them "Gestapo" and "Nazis." Keywords: [oregon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oregon.md), [icu capacity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icu-capacity.md), [calgary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/calgary.md), [gestapo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gestapo.md), [religious freedom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/religious-freedom.md), [lockdowns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdowns.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/20.md) ### 21. COVID-19 Production Bonanza in Entertainment (57:50–1:01:40) A producer details the high costs of COVID-19 compliance on a $3 million commercial shoot in Las Vegas. Approximately 10% of the budget ($300,000) was spent on testing, coordinators, and PPE kits. The hosts characterize the industry as a "bonanza" for testing companies and compliance personnel. Keywords: [las vegas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/las-vegas.md), [pcr testing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pcr-testing.md), [ppe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ppe.md), [production budget](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/production-budget.md), compliance officer [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/21.md) ### 22. London Protests and Rebranding the J&J Vaccine (1:01:41–1:05:54) Thousands protest lockdowns in London, while Northern Ireland bans dancing and live music in outdoor pubs. The hosts predict a marketing "reset" for the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, using the phrase "abundance of caution" to explain the recent pause and regain public trust. Keywords: [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [northern ireland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/northern-ireland.md), [johnson & johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/johnson-johnson.md), abundance of caution, [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Oscars, Chloe Zhao, and the China Problem (1:05:54–1:10:46) The hosts discuss the upcoming Academy Awards and the controversy surrounding director Chloe Zhao. While her film *Nomadland* is a frontrunner, her past criticisms of the Chinese government have led to a media blackout in China. The discussion explores Hollywood's financial reliance on the Chinese market versus the Academy's voting process. Keywords: [oscars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oscars.md), [chloe zhao](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chloe-zhao.md), [nomadland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nomadland.md), [ccp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ccp.md), [hollywood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollywood.md), trial of the chicago 7 [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Executive Producer Introductions and Value for Value (1:10:49–1:14:41) Adam and John thank artist Darren O'Neill for the episode's cover art and promote the "Value for Value" model. They encourage listeners to use Podcasting 2.0 apps and join the No Agenda Social Mastodon instance. The hosts explain the benefits of a non-algorithmic social network. Keywords: [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch Global Travel Report (1:14:43–1:18:58) Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch provides a detailed report on international travel through the Middle East and the UAE. He notes that travel was largely normal with professional testing services available at home. He also describes the high-end marketing of IQOS heated tobacco products in Dubai malls. Keywords: [middle east](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/middle-east.md), [pcr tests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pcr-tests.md), [uae](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uae.md), [iqos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iqos.md), [global entry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-entry.md), [philip morris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philip-morris.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Producer Donations and Marriage Proposals (1:19:00–1:25:38) The hosts read letters from major donors, including a follow-up on a marriage proposal made on the show in 2020. The couple, now "Sir and Dame Savage," are embarking on a 49-day RV tour of red states. Other donations focus on job searches and "karmic" returns for the No Agenda community. Keywords: [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [marriage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marriage.md), [homeschooling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeschooling.md), [red states](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-states.md), route 66, [inland empire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inland-empire.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Jobs Karma and Baby Making Requests (1:25:39–1:32:28) Listeners from Australia, New York, and Michigan request "Jobs Karma" and "Baby Making Karma." One producer shares a theory that the soda brand Tab might be linked to infertility. The hosts grant various jingles and karma to support producers' personal and professional goals. Keywords: [jobs karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs-karma.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [in vitro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/in-vitro.md), tab soda, [aspartame](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aspartame.md), [michigan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michigan.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Construction Business and Sustainability Bonuses (1:32:30–1:37:05) Donations from producers in the construction and piping industries highlight a boom in stainless steel process piping. A producer from Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, shares a bonus received for meeting corporate "sustainability goals," redirecting the funds to the podcast. Keywords: [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), piping, [construction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/construction.md), [kellyanne conway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kellyanne-conway.md), [sustainability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sustainability.md), [bonuses](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bonuses.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Mead Making and the Davis Bynum Winery (1:37:07–1:41:05) A donation from a producer in Colorado sparks a discussion about mead making. John Dvorak recalls a winemaker at the Davis Bynum Winery in the 1970s who was an exceptional mead maker. The hosts discuss how the quality of honey dictates the final flavor profile of the fermented beverage. Keywords: [mead](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mead.md), [honey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/honey.md), davis bynum winery, albany california, [fermentation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fermentation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Vaccine Trial Control Group and Show Formula (1:41:25–1:43:37) A producer from Calgary volunteers to be part of the "control group" for vaccine trials by remaining unvaccinated. The hosts wrap up the first donation segment, reiterating the show's 14-year history and its reliance on the "Value for Value" experiment. Keywords: control group, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [numerology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/numerology.md), [gitmo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo-nation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Chris Hayes, Antifa, and January 6th Commission (1:43:38–1:49:12) The hosts play clips of MSNBC's Chris Hayes reacting to Donald Trump's suggestion that the January 6th Commission should investigate Antifa and Black Lives Matter. They mock Hayes's "whoa whoa whoa" vocalizations and discuss the media's framing of the Capitol riot investigation. Keywords: [chris hayes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-hayes.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [antifa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antifa.md), [black lives matter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-lives-matter.md), [january 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/january-6.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Rachel Maddow on Arizona Election Audit (1:49:12–1:53:45) Rachel Maddow expresses alarm over the ongoing ballot audit in Maricopa County, Arizona. She characterizes the process as "bastardizing" the 2020 election and claims ballots were handed to "conspiracy theorists." The hosts critique her rhetoric and the media's fear of a manual recount. Keywords: [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [maricopa county](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maricopa-county.md), [arizona](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arizona.md), [election audit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election-audit.md), stop the steal, [qanon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qanon.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Ghislaine Maxwell Indictment and Lin Wood Speech (1:53:45–1:56:33) New indictments are filed against Ghislaine Maxwell as photos surface of her and Jeffrey Epstein at the Clinton White House. Attorney Lin Wood is shown giving a fiery speech at a conference, accusing high-profile politicians and global elites of involvement in child sex trafficking. Keywords: [ghislaine maxwell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ghislaine-maxwell.md), [jeffrey epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-epstein.md), [lin wood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lin-wood.md), [child trafficking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-trafficking.md), clinton white house [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Biden Afghanistan Withdrawal and Ancient Relics (1:56:34–2:01:20) President Biden announces the start of the final US troop withdrawal from Afghanistan, aiming for completion by September 11th. Simultaneously, 33 ancient artifacts are returned to Kabul. The hosts discuss the symbolic timing and the likelihood of the Taliban destroying the returned relics. Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [taliban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taliban.md), [september 11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/september-11.md), [antiquities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antiquities.md), [kabul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kabul.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/34.md) ### 35. Armenian Genocide Recognition and Court Packing (2:01:21–2:06:13) President Biden officially recognizes the Armenian Genocide, a move previous presidents avoided to maintain relations with Turkey. The hosts also play a 1990s clip of Biden calling FDR's court-packing plan a "bonehead idea," contrasting it with current political discussions. Keywords: [armenian genocide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/armenian-genocide.md), [turkey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/turkey.md), [erdogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/erdogan.md), [court packing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/court-packing.md), [fdr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fdr.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/35.md) ### 36. Global Climate Summit and Boris Johnson (2:06:16–2:10:20) World leaders participate in a virtual climate summit. Boris Johnson uses the term "bunny hugging" to describe green policies while emphasizing job growth. The hosts mock Biden for being the only leader wearing a mask during the Zoom call and criticize the lack of a US flag in his background. Keywords: [climate summit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-summit.md), [boris johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boris-johnson.md), bunny hugging, [net zero](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-zero.md), [carbon dioxide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-dioxide.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/36.md) ### 37. Cash for Clunkers and Al Gore's Fish (2:10:20–2:12:48) The hosts recall the 2008 "Cash for Clunkers" program and suggest it is being revived under the guise of green policy. They play a clip of Al Gore claiming to see fish swimming in the streets of Miami Beach, which they dismiss as an exaggeration of common tidal events. Keywords: [cash for clunkers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cash-for-clunkers.md), [al gore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-gore.md), [miami beach](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/miami-beach.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), 2008 recession [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/37.md) ### 38. Washington DC Sinking and Climate Anomalies (2:12:48–2:17:03) A CBS report on the flooding of the Tidal Basin in Washington DC is analyzed. While the report mentions the ground is sinking, it primarily blames climate change. The hosts point out the logical inconsistency of media reports claiming specific regions like Canada are warming "twice as fast" as the rest of the world. Keywords: tidal basin, [washington dc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-dc.md), [cherry blossoms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cherry-blossoms.md), [sea level rise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sea-level-rise.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/38.md) ### 39. John Kerry and Nickelodeon Environmental Racism (2:17:14–2:21:34) Climate Czar John Kerry discusses the need to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Meanwhile, Nickelodeon's "Nick News" introduces children to the concept of "environmental racism," citing pollution in minority communities. The hosts criticize the indoctrination of children through entertainment networks. Keywords: [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), [nickelodeon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nickelodeon.md), environmental racism, [carbon capture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-capture.md), [systemic racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/systemic-racism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/39.md) ### 40. Columbus Police Shooting and Knife Fight Debate (2:21:36–2:24:56) The fatal police shooting of 16-year-old Makaya Bryant in Columbus, Ohio, sparks national debate. Despite bodycam footage showing Bryant attempting to stab another girl, figures like Valerie Jarrett call for "accountability." The hosts discuss the media's attempt to normalize "knife fights" as a common teenage occurrence. Keywords: [columbus ohio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/columbus-ohio.md), makaya bryant, [valerie jarrett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/valerie-jarrett.md), [police shooting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-shooting.md), [911 call](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/911-call.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/40.md) ### 41. Olympics BLM Ban and Patrice Cullors (2:24:57–2:27:40) The International Olympic Committee bans "taking the knee" during the Tokyo games. Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrice Cullors faces scrutiny for her real estate holdings and her new advocacy for net neutrality, which the hosts suggest is a quid pro quo for donations from tech billionaires. Keywords: [ioc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ioc.md), [tokyo olympics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tokyo-olympics.md), patrice cullors, [black lives matter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-lives-matter.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [jack dorsey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jack-dorsey.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/41.md) ### 42. School Equity Surveys for First Graders (2:27:42–2:30:27) A producer in Detroit shares an "equity and inclusion" survey sent to parents of first graders. The questions ask about the child's exposure to topics like systemic discrimination, gender identity, and social justice. The hosts argue this is part of a broader effort to raise children to be critical of their own country. Keywords: [detroit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/detroit.md), equity and inclusion, diversity survey, first grade, [social justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-justice.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/42.md) ### 43. NPR Gaffe and Event 202 (2:30:31–2:32:17) A producer catches a "zinger" in an NPR report about disinformation, where the reporter refers to "lies about the 2020 election to the COVID-19 rollout." The hosts joke about the "good rollout" and hint at future pandemic simulations like "Event 202." Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [disinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disinformation.md), [2020 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2020-election.md), covid-19 rollout, [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/43.md) ### 44. Final Donation Segment and De-douching (2:32:18–2:38:46) The hosts read the final list of donors for the episode, including several new knights and "de-douching" requests. Producers from the Netherlands, Texas, and Virginia are thanked for their financial support. One donor mentions being motivated to contribute after a Twitter exchange with Adam Curry about Bitcoin. Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [virginia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/virginia.md), [colorado](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/44.md) ### 45. Custom Rifles and Restaurant Exit Strategy (2:38:46–2:42:22) A correction is made regarding the price of custom rifles from Benfield Precision, clarifying they start at $1,500 rather than $15,000. A "Rogan transplant" from Montana requests karma for his son and discusses the difficulty of selling a small restaurant during the pandemic due to bank lending freezes. Keywords: [custom rifles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/custom-rifles.md), [idaho](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/idaho.md), [montana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/montana.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [restaurant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/restaurant.md), lending [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/45.md) ### 46. Birthday Announcements and New Knights (2:42:23–2:45:19) The hosts announce birthdays for the "No Agenda family," including Void Zero, who maintains the show's technical infrastructure. Three new knights—Sir David Galloway, the knight formerly known as Fred, and Sir Soothsayer—are officially dubbed and welcomed to the "Roundtable." Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), david galloway, fred thornburg, brian furley, [void zero](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/void-zero.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/46.md) ### 47. No Agenda Meetup Reports and Schedule (2:45:20–2:51:15) Producers send in audio reports from meetups in Chicago, Denver, and Franklin, North Carolina. Adam Curry mentions meeting Marty Bent of the "Tales from the Crypt" podcast. A schedule of upcoming meetups in Minnesota, Kentucky, and Australia is provided to encourage listener networking. Keywords: [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), [denver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denver.md), [north carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-carolina.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), tales from the crypt, marty bent [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/47.md) ### 48. Caitlyn Jenner for Governor and Bill Maher (2:51:19–2:54:48) Caitlyn Jenner announces her candidacy for Governor of California in the upcoming recall election against Gavin Newsom. The hosts play a clip of Bill Maher mocking the run, noting the "brain freeze" liberals experience when a transgender individual identifies as a Republican. Keywords: [caitlyn jenner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/caitlyn-jenner.md), [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [recall election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recall-election.md), [bill maher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-maher.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/48.md) ### 49. Anti-Asian Hate and Trump Blame (2:54:48–2:57:41) Nora O'Donnell reports on sexual assault in the military, while a Pew Research study links a rise in anti-Asian violence to Donald Trump's rhetoric. The hosts point out that the cited attacks are occurring in deep-blue cities like New York and San Francisco, questioning the logic of blaming Trump. Keywords: [nora o'donnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nora-o-donnell.md), anti-asian hate, [pew research](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pew-research.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1341-bunny-hugging/chapter/49.md) ### 50. Outro, Rain Stick Power, and PBR (2:57:41–3:07:33) Adam and John conclude the show by promising to cover "dead cows and UFOs" on the next episode. They credit the rain stick for the current sprinkles in Silicon Valley. John Dvorak opens a Pabst Blue Ribbon as they sign off with the "Adios Mofos" catchphrase. 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