# Thugs on a plane > A journey from Joe Rogan's high-tech Austin bunker to the Federal Reserve's digital dollar reveals a global push for programmable currency and centralized medical surveillance. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 1274 - **Published:** 2020-09-03 - **Length:** 3h 4m - **Topics:** [FedNow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fednow.md), [Digital Dollar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-dollar.md), [Joe Rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [Nancy Pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), Victoria Lockdown, [Podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), Thugs on a Plane - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane ## About this episode Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak investigate the smoke conditions in Northern Silicon Valley as regional wildfires reach 80% containment. Curry recounts his four-hour appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience in Austin, describing a futuristic studio environment requiring PCR nasal swabs and antibody tests for entry. The visit highlights the technical hurdles of Rogan's new Spotify era, including TriCaster failures and the ongoing debate over platform censorship. Financial shifts accelerate as the Federal Reserve launches the FedNow instant payment system, while the Banking for All Act proposes digital wallets linked to the U.S. Post Office. Analyst Lynette Zhang warns that a Central Bank Digital Currency would allow for programmable money and negative interest rates. Meanwhile, Speaker Nancy Pelosi faces backlash for a maskless salon visit in San Francisco, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. warns a Berlin crowd about the Nuremberg Charter and global medical overreach. In Victoria, Australia, Premier Dan Andrews seeks to extend emergency powers following the high-profile arrest of a pregnant woman for incitement. Nikolai Stepanov is knighted as Sir Nick of the Black Forest during a ceremony involving traditional Dutch Vanilla Vla. Joe Biden struggles through a Pittsburgh speech, slurring remarks about COVID-19 and referencing an obscure Franklin D. Roosevelt quote. The hosts deconstruct the media frenzy surrounding Donald Trump's comments on thugs on a plane and the mysterious dark shadows allegedly directing the Democratic campaign. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/transcript.md. ### 1. Fire Containment, Northern Silicon Valley Air Quality (0:00–1:31) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program discussing the smoke conditions in Northern Silicon Valley caused by regional wildfires. Dvorak reports that the three major fires are approximately 80% contained, crediting firefighters and favorable wind conditions for preventing further damage. Keywords: [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [wildfires](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wildfires.md), [air quality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-quality.md), [containment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/containment.md), [firefighters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/firefighters.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Joe Rogan, New Austin Studio, COVID-19 Testing (1:32–4:31) Adam Curry describes visiting Joe Rogan's new podcast studio in Austin, Texas, which he likens to a futuristic opium den. Before entering, Curry underwent both a PCR nasal swab and a finger-prick antibody test administered by on-site doctors. He questions why rapid antibody tests are not more widely available to the general public. Keywords: [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), covid-19 test, [pcr test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pcr-test.md), [antibody test](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antibody-test.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Technical Difficulties, Joe Rogan Studio Wiring, TriCaster (4:32–6:57) The hosts discuss the technical challenges of setting up Joe Rogan's new Austin studio, including issues with a high-end TriCaster unit and ground loops. Curry assisted the crew with troubleshooting audio processing and headphone monitoring. Due to persistent technical failures, the four-hour recording was conducted without the hosts wearing headphones. Keywords: black magic video, [tricaster](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tricaster.md), ground loops, [audio engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-engineering.md), [troubleshooting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/troubleshooting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Joe Rogan Podcast, Marijuana Use, Vaccine Discussion (6:58–10:16) Adam Curry recounts his four-hour appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, noting that they smoked a blunt before starting, which led to a disjointed first hour. The conversation covered topics ranging from vaccine skepticism to the history of the Federal Reserve and Jekyll Island. Curry observes that Rogan's high energy and frequent topic shifts required intense focus to navigate. Keywords: [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), jekyll island [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Zephyr Economic Outlook, Trucking Industry, Manufacturing Imports (10:16–11:45) A listener report from Ontario, Canada, provides an update for the "Zephyr Economic Outlook," noting a massive influx of new tractor-trailers for the company Contrans. The report suggests a surge in inbound manufacturing hardware from Europe, indicating significant economic activity in the automotive and injection molding sectors. Keywords: [zephyr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zephyr.md), [trucking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trucking.md), [ontario](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ontario.md), [manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing.md), [imports](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imports.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Spotify Deal, Joe Rogan Censorship, Podcast Freedom (11:46–15:06) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss Joe Rogan's move to Spotify and reports that certain past episodes were excluded from the platform. Curry emphasizes the importance of "Podcasting 2.0" to ensure independent creators can thrive outside of centralized apps. They speculate on the potential for future friction between Rogan's content and Spotify's corporate restrictions. Keywords: [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md), [podcasting 2.0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting-2-0.md), [market cap](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/market-cap.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Dave Chappelle, Ohio Comedy Shows, Dinner with Rogan (15:08–18:01) Adam Curry describes the comedy scene in Ohio where Dave Chappelle is hosting outdoor shows featuring Jon Stewart and Bill Burr. Curry also recounts going to dinner with Joe Rogan at Three Forks in Austin, noting the high level of celebrity treatment and security surrounding the "Rogan posse." Keywords: [dave chappelle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dave-chappelle.md), [ohio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ohio.md), [comedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comedy.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), three forks [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/7.md) ### 8. FedNow, Instant Payment System, Digital Wallet (18:02–22:33) The Federal Reserve has launched "FedNow," a new instant payment system designed to modernize the U.S. financial infrastructure. Governor Lael Brainard justified the accelerated rollout by citing the need for faster delivery of emergency relief payments, such as those authorized in the CARES Act. The system aims to provide households and small businesses with immediate access to funds, bypassing traditional banking delays. Keywords: [fednow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fednow.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), brainard, digital wallet, [cares act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cares-act.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Digital Dollar, Post Office Banking, Cashless Society (22:33–25:35) The "Banking for All Act" proposes using the U.S. Post Office as a hub for unbanked citizens to access digital wallets linked directly to the Federal Reserve. This move toward a "digital dollar" coincides with a decline in physical cash usage during the pandemic. Critics argue this system allows the government to assign digital accounts based on Social Security numbers, centralizing financial control. Keywords: [digital dollar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-dollar.md), [maxine waters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maxine-waters.md), [post office](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/post-office.md), banking for all act, [cashless](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cashless.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Central Bank Digital Currency, Negative Interest Rates, Programmable Money (25:35–28:49) Analyst Lynette Zhang explains how a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) would allow the Federal Reserve to implement monetary policy instantly. By using programmable money on a blockchain, the Fed could enforce negative interest rates to compel spending or attach specific contracts to digital funds. This technology enables granular control over the money supply, down to sixteen decimal places. Keywords: lynette zhang, [central bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/central-bank.md), [negative interest rates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/negative-interest-rates.md), [blockchain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blockchain.md), [inflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inflation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Banking Industry Pushback, Donald Trump, Inflation Targets (28:52–32:45) John C. Dvorak expresses skepticism that major commercial banks will allow the Federal Reserve to bypass them via direct digital accounts. The hosts discuss whether President Trump, as a real estate developer, would support a digital dollar or negative interest rates. They also note the Fed's recent shift toward "averaging" its 2% inflation target, suggesting a long-term low-interest-rate environment. Keywords: [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), mnuchin, [inflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inflation.md), [real estate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/real-estate.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/11.md) ### 12. NBC Nightly News, COVID-19 Warnings, ALS Ice Bucket Challenge (32:45–34:20) A summary of NBC Nightly News highlights Dr. Anthony Fauci's warnings against Labor Day crowds and the first death linked to the Sturgis motorcycle rally. The segment also mentions the CDC's vaccine timeline and a report on how funds from the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge have led to a new medical breakthrough. Keywords: [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [lester holt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lester-holt.md), [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), [sturgis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sturgis.md), [als](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/als.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Nancy Pelosi, San Francisco Hair Salon, COVID-19 Hypocrisy (34:20–37:59) Speaker Nancy Pelosi faced criticism after security footage showed her inside a San Francisco hair salon without a mask, violating local COVID-19 ordinances. Pelosi claimed she was "set up" by the salon owner, while the owner expressed disgust at the Speaker's disregard for the rules she advocates for others. The hosts contrast this scandal with the ongoing homelessness crisis in Pelosi's district. Keywords: [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [hair salon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hair-salon.md), eandm salon, [lockdown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdown.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Berlin Protest, Medical Freedom (38:00–41:58) Robert F. Kennedy Jr. delivered a speech in Berlin, warning against government overreach and the implementation of digital currencies to control populations. He invoked the Nuremberg Charter to argue against mandatory medical interventions without informed consent. Kennedy criticized Dr. Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates, accusing them of using the pandemic to micromanage global citizens. Keywords: [robert f. kennedy jr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-f-kennedy-jr.md), [berlin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berlin.md), [nuremberg charter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nuremberg-charter.md), [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Deborah Birx, Bill Gates Influence, Contact Tracing (41:59–44:01) A resurfaced clip of Dr. Deborah Birx shows her referring to "the gates" that the federal government has recommended for reopening. The hosts interpret this as a slip of the tongue referencing Bill Gates' influence on public health policy. They discuss the ongoing efforts to establish contact tracing infrastructure across the United States. Keywords: [deborah birx](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deborah-birx.md), [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [contact tracing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contact-tracing.md), [federal government](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-government.md), criteria [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/15.md) ### 16. CDC Vaccine Timeline, Two-Shot Regimen, Logistics (44:01–48:02) The CDC has notified states to prepare for a potential vaccine rollout as early as November 1st. Medical reports indicate that the coronavirus vaccine will likely require a two-shot regimen spaced several weeks apart. The hosts discuss the massive logistical challenge of vaccinating hundreds of millions of people twice and the potential for unpleasant side effects after the second dose. Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [moderna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moderna.md), [vaccine trial](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-trial.md), [logistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/logistics.md), [booster shot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/booster-shot.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Finland Tracing App, Apple iOS Update, Digital Adoption (48:03–49:55) Finland has seen high adoption rates for its national coronavirus tracing app, with over a million citizens downloading it. This coincides with Apple's iOS 13.7 update, which integrates "Exposure Notification Express" directly into the operating system. The hosts debate whether people are adopting these tools out of a sense of civic duty or a desire to be part of a larger tracking system. Keywords: [finland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/finland.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), ios 13.7, exposure notification, [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Victoria Australia Lockdown, Arrest for Incitement, COVID-19 Deaths (49:55–54:56) Police in Victoria, Australia, arrested a pregnant woman in her home for "incitement" after she organized an anti-lockdown protest on Facebook. The arrest, captured on video, has sparked international debate over civil liberties. Meanwhile, Victoria reported a record daily death toll, though officials admitted the numbers included "aged care deaths" dating back to July that were previously unreported. Keywords: [victoria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [incitement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/incitement.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [lockdown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdown.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Victoria State of Emergency, COVID Normal, Dan Andrews (54:56–57:58) Premier Dan Andrews is seeking to extend the state of emergency in Victoria for an additional 12 months to enforce mandatory masks and gathering restrictions. Andrews introduced the concept of "COVID normal," a state of long-term stability required before the economy can fully reopen. Critics argue these measures are an indefinite grab for executive power. Keywords: [dan andrews](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-andrews.md), [victoria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria.md), [state of emergency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/state-of-emergency.md), [public health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-health.md), [melbourne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/melbourne.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/19.md) ### 20. China Influence, New York Debt, Belt and Road (57:58–59:54) The hosts speculate on the influence of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) in Victoria, Australia, and New York State. They discuss the "Belt and Road" initiative and suggest that China may benefit from the economic collapse of Western regions by providing predatory loans. Dvorak questions the long-term strategy of nationalizing state debts incurred from foreign entities. Keywords: [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [ccp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ccp.md), [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md), [andrew cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-cuomo.md), [belt and road](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belt-and-road.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Dutch Emergency Law, Super Mayors, EU Sovereignty (59:56–1:03:18) The Netherlands is considering an emergency law that would codify social distancing and mask mandates while creating twelve unelected "super mayors." These officials would report directly to parliament, bypassing local democratic structures. Additionally, the president of the Dutch Central Bank suggested that the country must cede more sovereignty to Brussels to save the Euro. Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), super mayors, [brussels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brussels.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [sovereignty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sovereignty.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Distance Learning Privacy, Critical Race Theory, Teacher Indoctrination (1:03:19–1:06:54) Teachers in several school districts, including Philadelphia and Tennessee, have expressed concerns about parents monitoring Zoom classrooms. Senior editor Libby Emmons reports that some educators worry parents will interfere with lessons on "critical race theory" and "white privilege." The hosts argue that parents should be actively involved in their children's education to prevent political indoctrination. Keywords: distance learning, [zoom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zoom.md), [critical race theory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/critical-race-theory.md), [philadelphia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philadelphia.md), richard carranza [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Convalescent Plasma, NIH vs FDA, Global Vaccine Effort (1:06:54–1:09:17) The Trump administration has declined to join a global vaccine development effort involving the World Health Organization. Domestically, a panel at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) stated there is insufficient evidence for convalescent plasma as a "standard of care," contradicting the FDA's emergency use authorization. The hosts analyze how media outlets like Democracy Now frame these conflicting medical reports. Keywords: [convalescent plasma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/convalescent-plasma.md), [nih](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nih.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [world health organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-health-organization.md), [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/23.md) ### 24. India COVID-19 Epicenter, Texas Vaccine Mandates, Media Headlines (1:09:18–1:11:43) India has emerged as a new global epicenter for the pandemic, surpassing Brazil in total cases. In the U.S., headlines claiming vaccines are "mandatory" for Texas schoolchildren are scrutinized; the hosts point out that Texas law allows for conscientious and religious exemptions. They criticize the media for using sensationalist headlines to obscure legal realities. Keywords: [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [sky news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sky-news.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [vaccine mandate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-mandate.md), [conscientious objection](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/conscientious-objection.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/24.md) ### 25. No Agenda Mission Statement, Podcast Deconstruction, Support Model (1:11:44–1:14:51) Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the creation of a formal mission statement for the No Agenda show to clarify its purpose of media deconstruction. They contrast their listener-supported model with the high-production, ad-supported format of the Joe Rogan Experience. The hosts emphasize that their independence allows them to discuss topics that would be censored in a "cancel culture" environment. Keywords: [mission statement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mission-statement.md), [media deconstruction](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-deconstruction.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Episode 1273 Artwork, No Debate 2020, Tante Niels (1:14:52–1:18:38) The hosts review the artwork for Episode 1273, titled "False Positive," created by Tante Niels. The art features a "No Debate 2020" theme using a font associated with the Joe Biden campaign. They also discuss other submissions, including a "rampaging elephant" by Nick the Rat, and the importance of original artwork in the No Agenda newsletter. Keywords: [podcast art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-art.md), tante niels, [nick the rat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nick-the-rat.md), biden font, [newsletter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/newsletter.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Website Search Feature, Executive Producer Donations, NHL Refund (1:18:39–1:23:25) A new search feature has been added to the No Agenda website, allowing users to search through episode transcripts. The hosts acknowledge major donations from "Anonymous" and "Sir Otaku," the latter of whom redirected funds from a cancelled NHL season ticket. Sir Otaku also requests "mac and cheese karma" for an upcoming steak competition in Texas. Keywords: [no agenda search](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-search.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [nhl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nhl.md), steak competition, red river valley [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/27.md) ### 28. COVID Death Charts, San Francisco Baron, Podcast Algos (1:23:26–1:28:17) Donors praise the No Agenda newsletter for providing COVID-19 death charts that show a decline in mortality compared to mainstream media reports. "C-Mike in Kansas City," a long-time listener since the "Daily Source Code" era, contributes to the show and requests a classic "Algos" jingle. The hosts discuss the "downfall of New York City" as detailed in recent Epoch Times articles. Keywords: covid chart, [epoch times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epoch-times.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [daily source code](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-source-code.md), algos [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Ohio Governor Impeachment, Columbus Police, German Forehead Tapping (1:28:18–1:31:18) A producer from Ohio reports on efforts by Republican members of the General Assembly to impeach Governor Mike DeWine over his handling of COVID-19 lockdowns. The report also mentions potential moves to defund the police in Columbus. Additionally, Adam Curry explains the German cultural gesture of tapping the forehead to indicate that someone is "crazy." Keywords: [mike dewine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-dewine.md), [ohio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ohio.md), [impeachment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impeachment.md), [columbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/columbus.md), cultural references [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Sir Nick of the Black Forest, Vanilla Vla, American Airlines Layoffs (1:31:18–1:34:56) Nikolai Stepanov is knighted as "Sir Nick of the Black Forest" and requests a discussion on "Vanilla Vla," a traditional Dutch pudding. The hosts reminisce about Dutch food culture and the role of the milkman. Another donor, "Baron Foxbat," requests "jobs karma" for a friend affected by massive layoffs at American Airlines following the expiration of federal bailout terms. Keywords: black forest, vanilla vla, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [american airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-airlines.md), [layoffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/layoffs.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Canadian Dollar-ettes, Who Are These Podcasts, Double Nickels (1:34:55–1:38:19) "Baron Hank Scorpio" contributes in Canadian "dollar-ettes" and calls out a fellow producer. "Sir Karl with a K" from Rochester donates "double nickels on the dime" ($55.10) and promotes the "Who Are These Podcasts?" show. The hosts play a jingle comparing the addictiveness of Oreos to cocaine and discuss Dvorak's upcoming appearance on WATP. Keywords: [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), watp, [double nickels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/double-nickels.md), [oreos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oreos.md), [cocaine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cocaine.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Sterilization Theories, Pacifica UN Performance, Fa'afafine Culture (1:38:19–1:41:58) A producer suggests that vaccine initiatives and gender theory in schools could be linked to global population control and sterilization. Adam Curry provides a "mea culpa" regarding a previous segment on a United Nations performance, explaining that the performer was a "Fa'afafine," a traditional third-gender role in Samoan culture, rather than a modern Western political activist. Keywords: [sterilization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sterilization.md), [population control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/population-control.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), fa'afafine, [samoa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/samoa.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Tourette's Syndrome, Scott Adams, Knighting Ceremony (1:41:58–1:46:17) Adam Curry discusses his personal experience with Tourette's Syndrome and how being open about it on the Joe Rogan show helps others feel comfortable. He speculates that Dilbert creator Scott Adams may have a mild version of the condition. The segment concludes with the formal knighting of Nikolai Stepanov as "Sir Nick of the Black Forest." Keywords: [tourette's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tourette-s.md), [scott adsms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-adsms.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), black forest [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/33.md) ### 34. Joe Biden Pittsburgh Speech, Charlottesville Remarks, Rasmussen Poll (1:46:17–1:49:46) Joe Biden delivered a speech in Pittsburgh where he reiterated his claim that President Trump called neo-Nazis in Charlottesville "very fine people." The hosts cite a Rasmussen poll suggesting that 52% of voters believe Trump was actually critical of the radical protesters. Biden framed his campaign as a battle to "restore the soul of the country." Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [pittsburgh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pittsburgh.md), [charlottesville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlottesville.md), rasmussen, [fine people](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fine-people.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/34.md) ### 35. Biden COVID Gaffe, FDR Quote, Straight from the Shoulder (1:49:46–1:52:53) During his Pittsburgh appearance, Joe Biden made a confusing statement about COVID-19 taking "more than 100 years" of lives. He also attempted to quote Franklin D. Roosevelt, using the phrase "straight from the shoulder" to describe presidential honesty. The hosts find the phrasing odd and struggle to find the historical origin of the specific Roosevelt quote Biden referenced. Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [fdr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fdr.md), [world war ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-ii.md), [gaffe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaffe.md), [pandemic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pandemic.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/35.md) ### 36. Biden Slurring, Truth Over Lies, Creepy Special Today Clip (1:52:56–1:57:23) The hosts analyze audio of Joe Biden slurring his words during a speech in Pittsburgh, speculating on his physical stamina. They play a montage of Biden's "truth over lies" and "science over fiction" rhetoric. The segment also features a controversial older clip where Biden tells children they will get "something special today," which the hosts characterize as "creepy." Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), slurring, [truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/truth.md), [science](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/science.md), creepy [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/36.md) ### 37. Presidential Debate Fact-Checking, Nancy Pelosi, Media Demands (1:57:24–1:59:54) Nancy Pelosi suggested that Joe Biden should not debate President Trump because Trump is a "pathological" liar. Biden responded to Andrea Mitchell that he intends to debate but wants a "fact-checker on the floor." The hosts predict that the media will demand the ability to interrupt the debates in real-time to provide "fact-checks," which they argue would ruin the format. Keywords: [presidential debate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/presidential-debate.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [fact-checking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fact-checking.md), [andrea mitchell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrea-mitchell.md), [media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/37.md) ### 38. Dark Shadows, Thugs on a Plane, Amy Goodman Whipsaw (1:59:55–2:05:05) President Trump told Laura Ingraham that "people in the dark shadows" are controlling Joe Biden and mentioned a plane "loaded with thugs" heading to the RNC. Amy Goodman of Democracy Now framed these comments as a "nod to QAnon." The hosts deconstruct the media's reaction to the word "thugs," noting that the term has been used by various politicians, including Barack Obama. Keywords: dark shadows, thugs, [laura ingraham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/laura-ingraham.md), [amy goodman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amy-goodman.md), [qanon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qanon.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/38.md) ### 39. Los Angeles Police Shooting, Media Martyrdom, Selective Coverage (2:05:06–2:06:52) The hosts discuss a recent fatal police shooting of a Black man in Los Angeles, noting the lack of national media attention compared to the Jacob Blake or George Floyd cases. They argue that the media and activists like Al Sharpton and Ben Crump are selective in which individuals they elevate to "martyr" status based on political utility. Keywords: [los angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-angeles.md), [police shooting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-shooting.md), [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [ben crump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-crump.md), [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/39.md) ### 40. Suburban Women, Laura Ingraham, Trump Tone (2:06:53–2:11:47) Laura Ingraham questioned President Trump on his "aggressive tone" and how it affects his standing with suburban female voters. Trump defended his language, stating he is surrounded by "incompetent" and "stupid people." The hosts criticize Ingraham for suggesting that women are uniquely offended by the word "stupid," arguing she was fishing for a soundbite. Keywords: [suburban women](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suburban-women.md), [laura ingraham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/laura-ingraham.md), [trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump.md), stupid people, tone [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/40.md) ### 41. Low Income Housing, Suburban Safety, White Flight (2:11:48–2:15:01) President Trump discussed his decision to end an Obama-era regulation regarding mandated low-income housing in suburban neighborhoods. He argued that suburban residents prioritize safety and security, which he claims is threatened by Democratic policies. The hosts discuss the "Karen" trope and the demographic shifts often referred to as "white flight" or "black flight" from urban centers. Keywords: low income housing, obama rule, [suburbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suburbs.md), [safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/safety.md), white flight [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/41.md) ### 42. Kenosha Visit, Jacob Blake, Golfing Choke Comparison (2:15:02–2:20:07) During his visit to Kenosha, Wisconsin, President Trump compared police officers who make split-second mistakes to golfers who "choke" under pressure. Amy Goodman criticized Trump for not meeting with Jacob Blake's family and for claiming he ordered the National Guard to the city. The hosts discuss reports that some "National Guard" units may actually be specialized federal forces. Keywords: [kenosha](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kenosha.md), [jacob blake](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jacob-blake.md), [national guard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-guard.md), golfers, [amy goodman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amy-goodman.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/42.md) ### 43. Brazilian Real Devaluation, Five Eyes, Digital Dollar (2:20:08–2:23:26) A donor from Brazil contributes 600 Reals, prompting a discussion on the significant devaluation of the Brazilian currency against the US Dollar. John C. Dvorak recalls his time writing for Brazilian magazines when the Real was pegged one-to-one with the dollar. They warn that a future US "digital dollar" could further disrupt international currency pegs. Keywords: [brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md), real, [currency devaluation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/currency-devaluation.md), [five eyes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/five-eyes.md), [digital dollar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-dollar.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/43.md) ### 44. Tattoo and Firearms Store, Birthday Donor List, International Support (2:23:26–2:28:05) A producer in San Antonio, Texas, has opened the "world's first tattoo and firearms store" called Transfer Station. The hosts read an extensive list of donors from Texas, Illinois, Arizona, Germany, and Great Britain who contributed in honor of Adam Curry's 56th birthday. They highlight the diverse geographic reach of the "No Agenda Nation." Keywords: [san antonio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-antonio.md), tattoo, [firearms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/firearms.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), [global producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-producers.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/44.md) ### 45. Fibonacci Numbers, International 56 Donors, Lockdown Reports (2:28:06–2:32:54) The hosts acknowledge a series of $56 donations, including one based on a Fibonacci number ($61.80). Producers from the Netherlands, Norway, Austria, and Australia provide brief updates on their local conditions. A "Baroness" from Victoria, Australia, is asked to provide a more detailed report on the ongoing strict lockdowns in her region. Keywords: [fibonacci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fibonacci.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [lockdown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdown.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/45.md) ### 46. Charlie Sheen Birthday, No Agenda Meetups, Make Good Karma (2:32:55–2:36:10) Adam Curry notes that he shares a birthday with actor Charlie Sheen. The hosts provide a "make good" for "Sir Dude Named Daniel," the admin for No Agenda Meetups, who is seeking freelance WordPress and graphic design work. They encourage the community to support fellow producers facing economic slowdowns due to the pandemic. Keywords: [charlie sheen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlie-sheen.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [wordpress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wordpress.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/46.md) ### 47. Knighting of Sir Nick, Upcoming Meetups, Pig Roast (2:36:10–2:40:59) Nikolai Stepanov is officially knighted as "Sir Nick of the Black Forest" in a ceremony involving vanilla and chocolate vla. The hosts announce several upcoming meetups in Salt Lake City, Austin, Oklahoma City, and Anchorage. A notable "pig roast" meetup is scheduled for Sunday in Medford Lakes, New Jersey. Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [salt lake city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salt-lake-city.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [pig roast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pig-roast.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/47.md) ### 48. Mo Agenda vs No Agenda, Denver Sit-in Report (2:40:58–2:43:30) The hosts play a confusing report from a "Mo Agenda" meetup in Michigan, which they clarify is a different show. They then transition to a legitimate No Agenda report from a "sit-in" at Denver City Park, where local producers gathered to celebrate Adam Curry's birthday and discuss media deconstruction. Keywords: mo agenda, [denver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denver.md), sit-in, [mofax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mofax.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/48.md) ### 49. Uprisings Supercut, Political Rhetoric, Incitement of Violence (2:43:31–2:46:55) A supercut montage features prominent Democratic politicians and media figures, including Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi, using rhetoric that encourages "unrest in the streets" and "pushing back" on Trump administration officials. The hosts argue that these statements have normalized political violence, leading to incidents like the recent brick attack on a white pedestrian. Keywords: [supercut](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supercut.md), uprisings, [maxine waters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maxine-waters.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [violence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/violence.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/49.md) ### 50. CAIR, Black Lives Matter Co-option, Muslim Revolution (2:46:56–2:49:26) A 2016 clip from a leader of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) encourages American Muslims to treat "Black Lives Matter" as their own campaign. The speaker calls for a "revolution in America" similar to those staged globally. The hosts argue that the core tenets of BLM, particularly regarding family structure, are actually incompatible with traditional Islamic beliefs. 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Keywords: [walter reed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/walter-reed.md), mini-strokes, [mike pence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pence.md), michael schmidt, [troll](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/troll.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1274-thugs-on-a-plane/chapter/51.md) ### 52. Google Play Mastodon Ban, Apple China Censorship, Pocket Casts (2:51:42–2:53:39) Google Play has begun removing apps that connect to Mastodon servers, citing concerns over "hate speech" on the decentralized network. Simultaneously, Apple has removed the "Pocket Casts" app from its Chinese App Store at the request of the Chinese government. The hosts criticize these tech giants for their inconsistent application of content standards and their compliance with authoritarian regimes. 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