# Dummy Placebo

> Federal investigators expose a massive Chinese campaign to subvert American academia while public health officials pivot to aggressive vaccine recruitment strategies in Texas.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1258
- **Published:** 2020-07-12
- **Length:** 3h 22m
- **Topics:** Operation Fox Hunt, Thousand Talents, Dummy Placebos, Budesonide, [Ghislaine Maxwell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ghislaine-maxwell.md), Equifax Hack
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo

## About this episode

FBI Director Christopher Wray identifies the Chinese Communist Party as the preeminent threat to American economic security, revealing a new counterintelligence case opens every ten hours. The bureau highlights the 2017 Equifax hack and the Thousand Talents Program as pillars of a state-sponsored campaign to siphon intellectual property from U.S. universities and corporations. Wray specifically details Operation Fox Hunt, a rogue law enforcement initiative used by Xi Jinping to coerce dissidents on American soil.

NIH Director Dr. Francis Collins and Dr. Anthony Fauci are coordinating massive Phase 3 vaccine trials in Houston and other high-transmission regions. The federal government is pre-funding the manufacturing of millions of doses while utilizing recruitment models from historical HIV trials to target minority populations. Meanwhile, Austin Mayor Steve Adler considers a 35-day mandatory lockdown as Texas small businesses face permanent closure. Dr. Richard Bartlett advocates for inhaled budesonide as a low-cost alternative, claiming a high success rate in treating respiratory distress without hospitalization.

Ghislaine Maxwell faces sex trafficking charges following her arrest in New Hampshire, reigniting scrutiny of Bill Gates and Prince Andrew. Maria Farmer recounts her ignored 1996 FBI report while Tucker Carlson names elite figures linked to the Jeffrey Epstein network. The broadcast concludes with a musical tribute to Prince Andrew’s medical claims regarding his inability to sweat during the BBC Newsnight interview.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/transcript.md.

### 1. Austin City Council, Potential 35-Day COVID-19 Lockdown (0:00–4:54)

Austin City Council is considering a mandatory 35-day lockdown and a "lessons learned" program to address rising COVID-19 cases. Mayor Adler supports a proposal that would declare businesses a nuisance if they fail to enforce mask use, disinfect twice daily, and limit groups to ten people. Violators of these proposed regulations could face civil suits filed by the city attorney.

Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [city council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-council.md), [mayor adler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mayor-adler.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [lockdown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdown.md), business regulations, nuisance ordinance

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Texas Retail Closures, Pool Testing Methodology Concerns (4:55–8:53)

Small businesses and bars in Texas face permanent closure due to renewed lockdown measures, while large retailers like Walmart remain open. Concerns are raised regarding "pool testing" in Austin, where testing one positive individual in a group results in the entire group being counted as positive cases. This methodology is criticized for inflating case numbers while the actual death rate remains low.

Keywords: [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [retail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/retail.md), [walmart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/walmart.md), pool testing, covid-19 cases, [infection rate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infection-rate.md), [small business](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/small-business.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/2.md)

### 3. COVID-19 Mortality Statistics, Spanish Flu Historical Comparison (9:11–13:32)

A comparison of global pandemics shows the 1918 Spanish Flu killed approximately 5% of the world population, whereas COVID-19 deaths represent roughly 0.06%. Despite low mortality rates, mainstream media narratives focus on hospital capacity and political blame directed at Donald Trump. Current ICU bed availability in Texas is estimated at 30%, contradicting reports of a total healthcare system collapse.

Keywords: [spanish flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spanish-flu.md), [mortality rate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mortality-rate.md), world population, [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [seasonal flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seasonal-flu.md), [hospitalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hospitalization.md), [icu beds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icu-beds.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Houston Vaccine Trials, DM Clinical Research Recruitment (13:33–18:16)

The Texas Center for Drug Development and DM Clinical Research are recruiting a diverse pool of volunteers in Houston for COVID-19 vaccine trials. Participants in these Phase 2 and Phase 3 trials are offered a minimum of $1,000 to test the safety and efficacy of investigational vaccines. The recruitment campaign specifically targets young people and diverse populations to ensure the vaccine is effective across all demographics.

Keywords: [houston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/houston.md), [vaccine trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-trials.md), dm clinical research, [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [volunteers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/volunteers.md), phase three, [clinical trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinical-trials.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Dr. Francis Collins, NIH Vaccine Strategy and "Dummy Placebos" (18:17–22:12)

Dr. Francis Collins, head of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), is leading a massive effort to launch four vaccine trials involving 30,000 volunteers each starting in July 2020. Collins noted that trials must occur in areas where the virus is actively spreading, specifically targeting "red states" that opened early. A reference to "dummy placebos" in his description of the trial methodology raised questions about the terminology used for control groups.

Keywords: [francis collins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/francis-collins.md), [nih](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nih.md), [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), human genome project, [vaccine trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-trials.md), [placebo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/placebo.md), [red states](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-states.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/5.md)

### 6. NPR Interview, Dr. Francis Collins on "Manels" in Science (22:13–25:44)

Dr. Francis Collins appeared on NPR to discuss his refusal to participate in all-male speaking panels, which he referred to as "manels." He argued that implicit bias in the scientific community leads to the exclusion of women and diverse researchers from workshops and symposia. Collins vowed to boycott events that do not fairly represent the diverse scientific workforce.

Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [francis collins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/francis-collins.md), manels, [diversity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diversity.md), scientific workforce, [gender bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gender-bias.md), symposia

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/6.md)

### 7. BioLogos Foundation, Dr. Francis Collins on Science and Religion (25:44–29:49)

Dr. Francis Collins, author of "The Language of God," founded the BioLogos Foundation to promote harmony between science and evangelical Christianity. As the former leader of the Human Genome Project, Collins uses imagery of DNA and cathedral windows to argue that spiritual and scientific worldviews can be reconciled. His background in genetics is linked to the current development of mRNA vaccines, which represent a departure from traditional vaccine technology.

Keywords: [biologos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biologos.md), language of god, [dna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dna.md), evangelical christianity, human genome project, [mrna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mrna.md), [religion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/religion.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins, Scripted YouTube Livestream (29:49–33:23)

Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Francis Collins participated in a USA Today livestream to discuss the resurgence of COVID-19 infections in the United States. Fauci claimed the U.S. is still "knee-deep" in the first wave because the baseline of infections never dropped as it did in Europe. The conversation appeared highly scripted, serving as a public relations effort to frame the current surge as a result of states reopening too quickly.

Keywords: [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), [francis collins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/francis-collins.md), [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [usa today](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/usa-today.md), covid-19 surge, [europe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/europe.md), first wave

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/8.md)

### 9. COVID-19 Messaging, Targeting Young People and Social Responsibility (33:24–38:02)

Public health officials are shifting their messaging to target young people, warning them that they are not invulnerable to COVID-19. The narrative emphasizes that even asymptomatic young people can propagate the virus to vulnerable relatives, such as grandparents undergoing chemotherapy. This strategy uses social responsibility and shame to encourage mask-wearing and compliance with social distancing guidelines.

Keywords: young people, [asymptomatic spread](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/asymptomatic-spread.md), [social responsibility](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-responsibility.md), [surgeon general](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surgeon-general.md), [masks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/masks.md), [chemotherapy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chemotherapy.md), [guilt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/guilt.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Vaccine Manufacturing Risks, Dr. Francis Collins as "Antichrist" Figure (38:03–44:31)

The NIH is pre-funding the manufacturing of tens of millions of vaccine doses before clinical trials are complete, accepting the financial risk that failed vaccines will be discarded. Some religious observers have expressed skepticism toward Dr. Francis Collins, suggesting his attempt to meld science and faith is insincere. This distrust stems from his scripted public appearances and his role in driving DNA-altering vaccine technology.

Keywords: [vaccine doses](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-doses.md), [manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing.md), financial risk, [religion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/religion.md), [antichrist](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antichrist.md), revelation, [evangelical](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evangelical.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/10.md)

### 11. HIV Trial Model, Recruiting Minority Groups for Vaccines (44:32–48:47)

Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Francis Collins discussed using the recruitment model from historical HIV trials to reach minority communities for COVID-19 vaccine testing. They emphasized the need for high representation from African American, Latinx, and Native American populations due to higher susceptibility and underlying comorbidities. The goal is to ensure the Phase 3 trials are properly representative of the groups hardest hit by the pandemic.

Keywords: hiv trials, [african american](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/african-american.md), [latinx](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/latinx.md), [native american](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/native-american.md), [comorbidities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comorbidities.md), outreach, clinical representation

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Vaccine Protection Longevity, mRNA Technology vs. Seasonal Flu (48:47–52:02)

Questions remain regarding the duration of protection offered by COVID-19 vaccines, with officials suggesting immunity may only last six months to a year. Unlike the measles vaccine, COVID-19 vaccines may require finite boosters, similar to seasonal flu shots. Skeptics question why an mRNA vaccine designed to alter genetic instructions would require frequent boosters if it were truly effective.

Keywords: [mrna](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mrna.md), [spike protein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spike-protein.md), [immunity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immunity.md), [booster shots](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/booster-shots.md), [sars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sars.md), lab-created, [antibodies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antibodies.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Coronavirus Model, Dr. Francis Collins' Final Remarks (52:02–56:04)

Dr. Francis Collins concluded a public briefing by displaying a green model of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and promising that science would return life to its 2019 state. His final mention of "hope" was criticized as an afterthought compared to his emphasis on scientific strength and energy. Critics argue the current strategy involves blaming "rednecks" for not wearing masks while preparing to deploy vaccines in targeted cities like Houston.

Keywords: coronavirus model, [spike protein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spike-protein.md), [2019](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2019.md), [hope](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hope.md), [science](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/science.md), [vaccine trials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-trials.md), rednecks

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Dr. Richard Bartlett, Inhaled Budesonide COVID-19 Treatment (56:05–1:01:13)

Dr. Richard Bartlett of West Texas is promoting the use of inhaled budesonide, a common asthma steroid, as a highly effective and inexpensive treatment for COVID-19. Bartlett claims a 100% success rate with his patients using a nebulizer, a protocol he says is also used in Taiwan and Singapore. The treatment costs approximately $200 and reportedly provides immediate relief from respiratory distress and fever.

Keywords: richard bartlett, budesonide, nebulizer, asthma medicine, [west texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/west-texas.md), [taiwan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taiwan.md), [generic drugs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/generic-drugs.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/14.md)

### 15. UK COVID-19 Reopening, "Shambolic" Quarantine Policy (1:01:13–1:05:50)

England began reopening pubs, barbershops, and museums on July 4, 2020, while maintaining social distancing and optional mask-wearing. The Welsh and Scottish governments criticized the UK government's "shambolic" decision to exempt 59 countries from quarantine requirements. Meanwhile, localized lockdowns have been imposed in cities like Leicester, and public transportation usage remains low due to safety concerns.

Keywords: [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [boris johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boris-johnson.md), leicester, [social distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md), [quarantine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quarantine.md), shambolic, [public transport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-transport.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Herd Immunity, Karolinska Institute and Ron Paul (1:05:50–1:08:19)

Studies from the Karolinska Institute in Sweden and University Hospital Tübingen in Germany suggest that up to 30% of humans may already have COVID-specific antibodies. Dr. Ron Paul and other observers argue that herd immunity is rapidly approaching, which would effectively act as a natural vaccine. This perspective suggests the pandemic may be ending naturally as death rates continue to decline.

Keywords: [herd immunity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/herd-immunity.md), [ron paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ron-paul.md), karolinska institute, [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [antibodies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antibodies.md), natural vaccine

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Airborne Transmission, CDC Guidelines and Mask Efficacy (1:08:20–1:12:53)

A group of 239 scientists has urged the WHO and CDC to acknowledge that COVID-19 can be transmitted through lingering air droplets rather than just heavy coughs or sneezes. Proper ventilation and being outdoors are cited as more effective than cloth masks, which some argue are primarily political tools. Concerns are raised that masks may cause mild carbon dioxide poisoning while failing to stop aerosolized particles.

Keywords: airborne, [aerosol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aerosol.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [ventilation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ventilation.md), [viral load](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viral-load.md), [cloth masks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cloth-masks.md), [carbon dioxide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-dioxide.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/17.md)

### 18. European "Infodemic" Laws, Investigation of Dr. Scott Jensen (1:12:54–1:17:30)

The European Union is drafting laws to combat a perceived "infodemic" of COVID-19 misinformation, potentially leading to the deplatforming of dissenting voices. In the U.S., Minnesota State Senator and physician Dr. Scott Jensen is under investigation by the state medical board for his public comments regarding the coding of death certificates. Jensen, a former "Family Doctor of the Year," claims he is being targeted for comparing COVID-19 to the flu.

Keywords: [infodemic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infodemic.md), [scott jensen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scott-jensen.md), [minnesota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minnesota.md), [medical board](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-board.md), [misinformation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/misinformation.md), [death certificates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/death-certificates.md), [pharmaceutical ads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-ads.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/18.md)

### 19. No Agenda Social, Episode 1257 Artwork Review (1:17:32–1:21:33)

The hosts discuss the growth of No Agenda Social, a federated social network running on Mastodon. They review the artwork for Episode 1257, titled "Doggy DNA," created by J-Man 33, which features a profile of Donald Trump against a background of Cheetos. The piece is compared to classic Fillmore posters and received significant positive feedback on social media.

Keywords: [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [mastodon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mastodon.md), episode 1257, [orange man bad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/orange-man-bad.md), cheetos, fillmore poster, [artwork](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artwork.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Executive Producer Donations, Juliana Lee and Senor Miguel (1:21:33–1:27:09)

Executive Producer Juliana Lee donated $400, emphasizing the show's role in teaching independent thinking. Senor Miguel from Washington Heights provided a "boots on the ground" report, describing how the pandemic has slowed gentrification in his neighborhood. He requested karma for his father, who is recovering from tracheotomy surgery, and for his friend Clendy in Austin following a family loss.

Keywords: boonesboro, [washington heights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-heights.md), [gentrification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gentrification.md), tracheotomy, weed products, [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [boots on the ground](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boots-on-the-ground.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Mariella Nolfo, Brain Aneurysm Recovery and M5M Disease (1:27:09–1:31:45)

Mariella Nolfo of Pineville, Oregon, shared her recovery story following a 2017 brain aneurysm, noting that the podcast helped her maintain cognitive function during hospitalization. She compared her experience to Joe Biden's historical health issues but stated she does not suffer from "M5M disease" (Mainstream Media disease). She requested the "Tom Sawyer" jingle and "frogs gay" clip as part of her donation.

Keywords: pineville, [brain aneurysm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brain-aneurysm.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [recovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recovery.md), [m5m](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/m5m.md), [hydroxychloroquine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydroxychloroquine.md), tom sawyer

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Jordan Peterson Update, Benzodiazepine Dependency and Withdrawal (1:31:49–1:35:07)

Mikhaila Peterson provided a health update on her father, Jordan Peterson, detailing his severe physical dependency on benzodiazepines following his wife's cancer diagnosis. The family traveled to Russia and Bulgaria for specialized treatment after Peterson experienced akathisia, a harrowing condition where the patient cannot remain still. The update highlights the extreme dangers of benzodiazepine withdrawal, which can be more difficult than opioid recovery.

Keywords: [jordan peterson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jordan-peterson.md), mikhaila peterson, [benzodiazepines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benzodiazepines.md), akathisia, physical dependency, [bulgaria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bulgaria.md), [withdrawal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/withdrawal.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Outer Banks Meetup, Baron Mark Tanner and De-douching (1:35:10–1:39:12)

Alex and Arthur Brewer are organizing the first-ever No Agenda meetup in the Outer Banks, North Carolina, at the Blue Crab Tavern. Other producers, including Nicholas Vargo from Ohio and Baron Mark Tanner from California, sent donations to support the show and request "de-douching" or karma. The community continues to organize local gatherings despite ongoing pandemic restrictions.

Keywords: outer banks, [north carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-carolina.md), blue crab tavern, [whittier](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whittier.md), [ohio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ohio.md), [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Sarah in Grand Rapids, Kelly the Potter's Donation (1:39:12–1:42:44)

Sarah from Grand Rapids and Kelly from Minnesota sent donations, with Kelly providing handmade pottery to the hosts. Kelly requested relationship karma following a split on Mother's Day and job karma for her new teaching position in a different school district. The hosts acknowledged the high quality of the pottery and thanked the associate executive producers for their support.

Keywords: [grand rapids](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grand-rapids.md), [pottery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pottery.md), [farmers market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/farmers-market.md), teaching, [relationship karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/relationship-karma.md), [job karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/job-karma.md), [minnesota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minnesota.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Lady Wen of the Lakes, No Agenda Hair Care (1:42:44–1:47:22)

Lady Wen of the Lakes was officially named a Dame following years of contributions. The hosts also discussed "Happy Hair Formula," a product sent by a listener named Vicki, and debated whether to allow the No Agenda logo on third-party products like coffee. While they previously had a branded beer in Australia, they expressed caution about endorsing products without testing them first.

Keywords: lady wen, hair care, happy hair formula, [coffee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coffee.md), [logo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/logo.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/25.md)

### 26. FBI Director Christopher Wray, Chinese Economic Espionage (1:47:23–1:51:50)

FBI Director Christopher Wray delivered a lecture at the Hudson Institute, identifying the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) as the greatest long-term threat to U.S. economic and national security. Wray revealed that the FBI opens a new China-related counterintelligence case every ten hours. He specifically cited the 2017 Equifax hack, which compromised the personal data of 150 million Americans, as a state-sponsored military operation.

Keywords: [christopher wray](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/christopher-wray.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [ccp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ccp.md), economic espionage, equifax hack, [intellectual property](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intellectual-property.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Equifax Indictment, China's "Whole-of-State" Ambition (1:51:51–1:55:08)

The U.S. has filed indictments against Chinese military hackers for the Equifax breach, though the news was largely overshadowed by COVID-19 coverage. Director Wray described China's efforts as a "whole-of-state" campaign to become the world's only superpower through theft rather than legitimate innovation. This campaign targets healthcare organizations and pharmaceutical companies conducting essential research.

Keywords: [equifax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/equifax.md), [indictment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indictment.md), [ccp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ccp.md), [superpower](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/superpower.md), [innovation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/innovation.md), [trade deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trade-deal.md), [counterintelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/counterintelligence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Thousand Talents Program, Theft of Petroleum Trade Secrets (1:55:09–1:58:52)

The FBI highlighted cases of economic espionage linked to China's "Thousand Talents" recruitment program, including scientist Hong Jintan, who stole $1 billion in trade secrets from an Oklahoma petroleum company. Another case involved the theft of naval technology used in submarines. Wray noted that Chinese state-owned enterprises often patent stolen American technology and then attempt to sell it back to the victimized companies.

Keywords: thousand talents, [trade secrets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trade-secrets.md), [oklahoma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma.md), [petroleum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/petroleum.md), naval technology, [huawei](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huawei.md), [cisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cisco.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Academic Corruption, Charles Lieber and Harvard University (1:58:52–2:03:08)

Charles Lieber, former chair of Harvard's Chemistry Department, was indicted for concealing his participation in the Thousand Talents program and his ties to the Wuhan Institute of Technology. Lieber allegedly received a $50,000 monthly stipend and $1.5 million to establish a lab in China while receiving U.S. federal grant money. The FBI is currently investigating over a thousand similar cases of attempted technology theft in American academia.

Keywords: [charles lieber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charles-lieber.md), [harvard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harvard.md), [nih](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nih.md), wuhan institute of technology, [grants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/grants.md), academic espionage, [taxpayers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taxpayers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Chinese Malign Influence, Pressure on American Officials (2:03:11–2:07:22)

The CCP utilizes "malign influence" campaigns involving bribery, blackmail, and economic pressure to dictate the actions of American officials, particularly regarding Taiwan. China often uses middlemen and business partners to pressure politicians by threatening the manufacturing licenses of companies in their home states. This influence extends to high-profile figures in media and sports, such as LeBron James and the NBA.

Keywords: malign influence, [taiwan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taiwan.md), [blackmail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackmail.md), [bribery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bribery.md), [lebron james](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lebron-james.md), middlemen, [ccp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ccp.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Operation Fox Hunt, Suppression of Chinese Dissidents (2:07:24–2:12:13)

Operation Fox Hunt is a global campaign led by Xi Jinping to target and coerce Chinese nationals living abroad, including American citizens and green card holders. The program uses threats against family members in China to force dissidents to return home, sometimes telling targets they must choose between returning or committing suicide. The FBI is actively working to protect victims of these "rogue law enforcement" tactics in the United States.

Keywords: fox hunt, [xi jinping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xi-jinping.md), [dissidents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dissidents.md), [human rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-rights.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [coercion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coercion.md), [suicide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suicide.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Pope Francis, Vatican-China Relations and Hong Kong (2:12:15–2:15:04)

Pope Francis reportedly removed a 150-word paragraph regarding the situation in Hong Kong from his Sunday Angelus address. This omission follows reports that the CCP provides the Vatican with $2 billion annually to ensure silence on Chinese human rights issues and religious persecution. Critics argue the Pope has become a "shill" for the CCP, allowing the state to control a sanctioned version of Catholicism in China.

Keywords: [pope francis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pope-francis.md), [vatican](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vatican.md), [ccp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ccp.md), [hong kong](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hong-kong.md), angelus, [catholicism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catholicism.md), [bribery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bribery.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Stefan Molyneux, YouTube Deplatforming and Content Archiving (2:15:05–2:19:10)

Stefan Molyneux was permanently removed from YouTube, resulting in the loss of 14 years of content and nearly a million subscribers. While Molyneux claimed his videos were "lost forever," observers questioned why an established creator would not have local backups of his work. The incident highlights the resilience of the decentralized podcasting model compared to centralized social media platforms.

Keywords: stefan molyneux, [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [deplatforming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deplatforming.md), non-aggression principle, [archiving](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/archiving.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Useful Idiots Podcast, Adolph Reed on Trump (2:19:11–2:23:07)

Professor Adolph Reed appeared on the "Useful Idiots" podcast with Matt Taibbi, expressing his fear that a second Trump term would lead to the physical elimination of political rivals. Reed, a critic of the Black Lives Matter movement from a leftist perspective, suggested he might have to flee to Canada. Despite his rational analysis of labor organizing, his claims about Trump's lethal intentions went unchallenged by the hosts.

Keywords: [matt taibbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-taibbi.md), adolph reed, useful idiots, [blm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blm.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), organizing

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Matt Taibbi, "Cleveland Unicorns" Sports Prank (2:23:08–2:30:35)

During a podcast segment, Matt Taibbi pranked his co-host Katie Halper by inventing a fictional NFL team called the "Cleveland Unicorns." Halper, who admitted to knowing nothing about sports, proceeded to speculate on the team's "aggressive" logo and "ground assault" strategy. The exchange was criticized as mean-spirited, as Taibbi allowed the misinformation to continue without correcting his colleague.

Keywords: [matt taibbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-taibbi.md), katie halper, [cam newton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cam-newton.md), cleveland unicorns, [sports](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sports.md), [rolling stone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rolling-stone.md), [prank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prank.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Jason Whitlock, NFL and Black National Anthem (2:30:35–2:33:09)

Sports commentator Jason Whitlock criticized the NFL's decision to play "Lift Every Voice and Sing," often called the Black National Anthem, before games. Whitlock argued that the move undermines the unifying power of sports and Americana, labeling the leadership's actions as "cowardice." He further claimed that the Black Lives Matter organization is a Marxist political entity that is fundamentally anti-religious.

Keywords: [jason whitlock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jason-whitlock.md), [nfl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nfl.md), black national anthem, [marxism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marxism.md), americana, [leadership](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/leadership.md), cowardice

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Shepard Smith, CNBC Primetime News Slot (2:33:09–2:36:21)

Former Fox News anchor Shepard Smith is returning to television with a primetime news program on CNBC. The move is seen as an attempt by NBC Universal to bolster its evening lineup, which also includes Joy Reid taking over the former Chris Matthews slot on MSNBC. Smith's show will follow "Shark Tank" and is expected to provide a more traditional news alternative to the network's financial programming.

Keywords: [shepard smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shepard-smith.md), [cnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnbc.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [joy reid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joy-reid.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [brian williams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brian-williams.md), [shark tank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shark-tank.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Ford Motor Company, "Gaper" Statue and Cancel Culture (2:36:22–2:40:45)

Ford employees have reportedly petitioned the company to stop producing police vehicles, a move that has drawn criticism from those who believe the company should ignore such political demands. In Amsterdam, a historic "Gaper" statue was removed due to its perceived resemblance to blackface, despite its origins as a symbol for apothecaries. Additionally, a wooden statue of Melania Trump in Slovenia was recently burned by vandals.

Keywords: [ford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ford.md), cop cars, [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), gaper, [slovenia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slovenia.md), [melania trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/melania-trump.md), [blackface](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackface.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Lou Dobbs, Washington and Lee University Renaming (2:40:46–2:42:04)

Lou Dobbs mocked a Washington Post op-ed suggesting that Washington and Lee University should be renamed because its namesakes "perpetrated racial terror." The segment highlighted the accelerating pace of cancel culture and the targeting of foundational American historical figures. The commentary emphasized the absurdity of applying modern standards to 18th and 19th-century figures.

Keywords: [lou dobbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lou-dobbs.md), washington and lee university, [renaming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/renaming.md), [cancel culture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cancel-culture.md), [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), [op-ed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/op-ed.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Anti-Defamation League, Facebook Ad Boycott Meeting (2:42:05–2:46:58)

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) led a "disappointing" meeting with Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg regarding the "Stop Hate for Profit" ad boycott. The ADL demanded that Facebook hire a Chief Civil Rights Officer and submit to independent audits of hate speech on the platform. Zuckerberg's claim that AI removes 89% of hate content was rejected by the ADL, which compared the failure rate to faulty seatbelts in a car.

Keywords: [adl](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adl.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [mark zuckerberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-zuckerberg.md), [sheryl sandberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sheryl-sandberg.md), [ad boycott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ad-boycott.md), [hate speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hate-speech.md), civil rights officer

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Birthday Announcements, Derek and Don (2:46:59–2:50:42)

The hosts read a list of listener birthdays, including Derek, who turned 35, and Don, who turned 40. They also mentioned Miguel Espinal and Lars, while noting that Tina Marie Curry would be celebrating her birthday on July 11th. The segment included a reference to the free Slurpee promotion at 7-Eleven, which coincides with the date.

Keywords: [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md), derek, don, lars, miguel espinal, [7-eleven](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/7-eleven.md), slurpee

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Robert Klein, "Little Moscow" and Value for Value (2:50:43–2:54:58)

Robert Klein from "Little Moscow" (Madison, Wisconsin) donated to the show, stating he has drifted away from the Joe Rogan Experience in favor of No Agenda. He requested a de-douching and expressed appreciation for the show's "herd immunity against mind control." Another producer, Sir Acid, requested a shout-out for his late father, Rick, who recently passed away from COPD.

Keywords: [robert klein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-klein.md), [madison](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/madison.md), [wisconsin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wisconsin.md), little moscow, [jre](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jre.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [copd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copd.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Knighting Ceremony, Lady Wen of the Lakes (2:54:59–2:57:56)

In a formal ceremony, the hosts elevated several producers to the No Agenda Peerage. Lady Wen of the Lakes was named a Dame, while Adam and Maples were dubbed Knights of the Roundtable. The new peers are entitled to signet rings and certificates, recognizing their $1,000 contributions to the "Value for Value" model that sustains the podcast.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [dame](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dame.md), lady wen, [sir adam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sir-adam.md), sir maples, [signet ring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/signet-ring.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Nanaimo Meetup Report, Upcoming Event Schedule (2:57:59–3:03:01)

A report from a recent meetup in Nanaimo, British Columbia, highlighted the "awkward and clumsy" but gracious nature of the No Agenda community. The hosts announced a full schedule of upcoming meetups in Ohio, Seattle, Rhode Island, North Carolina, and Montreal. Listeners are encouraged to visit the dedicated meetup website to find or organize local gatherings.

Keywords: nanaimo, [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [ohio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ohio.md), [seattle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seattle.md), [rhode island](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rhode-island.md), [north carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-carolina.md), [montreal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/montreal.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/44.md)

### 45. General Michael Flynn, QAnon Slogan Video (3:03:02–3:06:42)

On July 4th, 2020, General Michael Flynn and his family posted a video of themselves taking an oath to the Constitution. The video concluded with Flynn reciting the phrase "Where we go one, we go all," a slogan associated with the QAnon movement. Observers debated whether the inclusion of the slogan was a sincere endorsement or a high-level "troll" of the media and political establishment.

Keywords: [michael flynn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-flynn.md), [qanon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/qanon.md), wwg1wga, [oath](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oath.md), [constitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/constitution.md), [july 4th](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/july-4th.md), [troll](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/troll.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Ghislaine Maxwell Arrest, Maria Farmer's 1996 FBI Report (3:06:42–3:09:43)

Ghislaine Maxwell was arrested at a million-dollar estate in New Hampshire on charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy. A report from "60 Minutes Australia" featured Maria Farmer, who claimed she reported Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein to the FBI as early as 1996, but her complaints were ignored. Farmer described receiving death threats from Maxwell, who allegedly warned her to be careful crossing the street.

Keywords: [ghislaine maxwell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ghislaine-maxwell.md), [jeffrey epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-epstein.md), maria farmer, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [sex trafficking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sex-trafficking.md), [new hampshire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-hampshire.md), [60 minutes australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/60-minutes-australia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Tucker Carlson, Elite Ties to Jeffrey Epstein (3:09:44–3:12:52)

Tucker Carlson utilized a "scorched earth" monologue to name prominent figures linked to Jeffrey Epstein, including LinkedIn founder Reid Hoffman and Microsoft's Bill Gates. Carlson questioned why Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's plane numerous times and why former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers facilitated massive donations from Epstein to Harvard. The segment emphasized that the public has a right to know what these elites knew about Epstein's illegal activities.

Keywords: [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [reid hoffman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reid-hoffman.md), [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [larry summers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/larry-summers.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [jeffrey epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-epstein.md), [suicide watch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suicide-watch.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Prince Andrew, Speculation on Princess Diana's Death (3:12:52–3:16:55)

Speculation surrounds the arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell and its potential impact on Prince Andrew and the British Royal Family. Some observers suggest that the investigation could eventually lead to new revelations regarding the death of Princess Diana. The theory posits that the current legal pressure on the royals is part of a broader effort to expose or dismantle elite power structures.

Keywords: [prince andrew](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prince-andrew.md), [princess diana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/princess-diana.md), [royal family](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/royal-family.md), [meghan markle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meghan-markle.md), [prince harry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prince-harry.md), [safe house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/safe-house.md), [speculation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/speculation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Prince Andrew "I Don't Sweat" Remix, Show Outro (3:16:55–3:22:31)

The show concluded with a musical remix of Prince Andrew's infamous BBC interview, where he claimed a medical condition involving adrenaline prevented him from sweating. The hosts signed off from Austin and Northern Silicon Valley, reminding listeners of the "Value for Value" model. The final segment featured a "cascading catastrophic consequences" jingle before the end of the broadcast.

Keywords: [prince andrew](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prince-andrew.md), adrenaline, sweating, medical condition, [remix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/remix.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1258-dummy-placebo/chapter/49.md)

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