# Gain of Function

> A massive platform shift for independent media coincides with a global re-evaluation of pandemic origins, pharmaceutical gatekeeping, and the sustainability of international lockdown strategies.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1244
- **Published:** 2020-05-24
- **Length:** 3h 36m
- **Topics:** [Gain of Function](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gain-of-function.md), Spotify Deal, [Hydroxychloroquine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydroxychloroquine.md), SAGE Committee, Lineage OS, [Wuhan Lab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan-lab.md), [Value for Value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function

## About this episode

Joe Rogan, Spotify, and the CDC lead a news cycle defined by shifting pandemic narratives and platform migration. As the Joe Rogan Experience moves to a multi-year exclusive licensing deal with Spotify to escape YouTube censorship, the CDC quietly updates surface transmission guidelines to reflect lower risks. These developments coincide with President Donald Trump revealing his use of hydroxychloroquine, a move that triggered immediate pushback from Fox News host Neil Cavuto and Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany defended the administration by citing international studies from France and South Korea while highlighting media double standards regarding Chris Cuomo. In the United Kingdom, the SAGE committee faced scrutiny over lockdown modeling gaps, while Swedish scientist Johan Giesecke argued against the long-term viability of border closures in Australia and New Zealand. Meanwhile, Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier and researchers from the Living Beyond 120 podcast analyzed potential gain-of-function origins for SARS-CoV-2, suggesting the virus may be a lab-created chimera containing HIV-like sequences funded by NIH grants under Dr. Anthony Fauci.

Governor Andrew Cuomo faced intense questioning over New York nursing home fatalities as Texas began a phased reopening that included strict safety protocols for Austin gentlemen's clubs. The segment on Joe Biden featured leaked audio of a 2016 phone call with Petro Poroshenko regarding the firing of Viktor Shokin, alongside a 2013 clip where Biden detailed his history of cranial aneurysm surgeries. The episode concludes with a deconstruction of Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s comments on the New World Order and a look at privacy-focused mobile operating systems like Lineage OS.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/transcript.md.

### 1. CDC Surface Transmission Guidelines, Social Distancing Anecdotes (0:00–4:40)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the session discussing new CDC guidelines stating COVID-19 does not spread easily on surfaces. They share anecdotes regarding friends practicing extreme social distancing indoors and describe the current dining environment in Austin, Texas. A report from a local server highlights the unintended consequences of lockdowns, specifically the cancellation of AA meetings and the rise of illicit support groups.

Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [coronavirus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coronavirus.md), [social distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [alcohol sales](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alcohol-sales.md), aa meetings

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Joe Rogan, Spotify Licensing Deal and YouTube Censorship (4:42–13:00)

Joe Rogan announced a multi-year licensing agreement to move the Joe Rogan Experience exclusively to Spotify by the end of 2020. The move is analyzed as a strategic shift to avoid YouTube's increasing censorship of COVID-19 content and to secure a stable platform following the de-platforming of Alex Jones. Concerns are raised regarding the loss of the open RSS feed and the potential impact on Rogan's cultural relevance.

Keywords: [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md), [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [rss feed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rss-feed.md), licensing deal, [alex jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-jones.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/2.md)

### 3. No Agenda Listenership Growth, Value for Value Model (13:02–18:11)

Adam Curry reports a significant surge in No Agenda listenership following his appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, with baseline numbers increasing up to 2,000% on Apple Podcasts. The discussion contrasts the "value for value" independent model with corporate podcasting acquisitions like Gimlet Media by Spotify. They posit that independence is the only way to avoid the "censorship bin" of mainstream platforms.

Keywords: [apple podcasts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple-podcasts.md), podcast connect, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [gimlet media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gimlet-media.md), [downloads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/downloads.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/3.md)

### 4. ABC Australia Anti-Podcast PSA, Church Advertising Legality (18:12–24:06)

The Australian Broadcasting Corporation aired a satirical public service announcement discouraging citizens from starting podcasts during the pandemic. This leads to a discussion on the "tribal" nature of media and a hypothetical debate on why churches do not use traditional corporate advertising or underwriting similar to PBS.

Keywords: [abc australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-australia.md), [public service announcement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-service-announcement.md), [joel osteen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joel-osteen.md), [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Donald Trump, Hydroxychloroquine and Fox Pharma Media Reaction (24:07–31:46)

President Donald Trump revealed he has been taking hydroxychloroquine as a preventative measure against COVID-19. Fox News host Neil Cavuto immediately issued a stern warning, citing a VA study to claim the drug "will kill you." The hosts characterize this rapid response as a scripted effort by "Fox Pharma" to protect the interests of the pharmaceutical industry and expensive alternatives like Remdesivir.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [hydroxychloroquine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydroxychloroquine.md), [neil cavuto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-cavuto.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [pharmaceutical industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-industry.md), va study

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Kayleigh McEnany, Media Double Standards and Global COVID Studies (31:47–41:03)

White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany defended the President's use of hydroxychloroquine by citing studies from France, Italy, and South Korea. She highlighted media hypocrisy, noting that CNN's Chris Cuomo reportedly took quinine—a less safe version of the drug—despite criticizing the President. McEnany emphasized the drug's 65-year safety profile for lupus and malaria.

Keywords: [kayleigh mcenany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kayleigh-mcenany.md), [chris cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-cuomo.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [south korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-korea.md), [prophylaxis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prophylaxis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Nancy Pelosi, Dr. Drew Pinsky and FDA Warnings (41:04–45:38)

Speaker Nancy Pelosi criticized President Trump's health choices, referring to him as "morbidly obese." In contrast, Dr. Drew Pinsky appeared on a news segment to clarify the safety of hydroxychloroquine versus chloroquine, explaining that doctors frequently prescribe medications for off-label use and that the FDA's warnings primarily concern unmonitored hospital settings.

Keywords: [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [dr. drew pinsky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-drew-pinsky.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [chloroquine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chloroquine.md), off-label use

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Mike Rowe, Risk Assessment and Safety-First Culture (45:39–51:50)

Mike Rowe appeared on the Rubin Report to discuss the "safety-first" culture and the human inability to accurately assess risk. Rowe argues that the obsession with total safety leads to compensatory risks and that the chief goal of living is not merely staying alive. He compares the COVID-19 lockdowns to the lack of lockdowns for automobile accidents despite high fatality rates.

Keywords: [mike rowe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-rowe.md), rubin report, risk equilibrium, homeostatic risk, safety culture

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/8.md)

### 9. UK SAGE Committee, Herd Immunity and Lockdown Modeling (51:50–54:05)

A member of the UK's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) was questioned on Channel 4 regarding the government's shifting strategy from herd immunity to full lockdown. The interview reveals a lack of initial modeling for a total lockdown and suggests the government was surprised by the public's high level of compliance with social distancing measures.

Keywords: [sage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sage.md), [neil ferguson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-ferguson.md), [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [herd immunity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/herd-immunity.md), [channel 4](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/channel-4.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Sweden COVID Strategy, Johan Giesecke and Border Closures (54:05–57:52)

Swedish scientist Johan Giesecke defends Sweden's decision to avoid a mandatory lockdown, arguing that most infections are mild and invisible. He criticizes countries like New Zealand and Australia for "painting themselves into a corner" with border closures, questioning how they will reintegrate with a world where the virus remains endemic for decades.

Keywords: [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), johan giesecke, [who](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/who.md), [new zealand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-zealand.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [lockdowns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdowns.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Andrew Cuomo, Nursing Home Deaths and Insurance Industry (57:52–1:06:50)

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo faced questioning regarding the high death toll in nursing homes following an executive order to admit COVID-positive patients. Cuomo deflected responsibility, attributing the deaths to "Mother Nature" and the vulnerability of the elderly. The hosts discuss the financial incentives for insurance companies when elderly Medicare patients are removed from the system.

Keywords: [andrew cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-cuomo.md), [nursing homes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nursing-homes.md), matilda's law, [medicare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicare.md), [insurance companies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance-companies.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/11.md)

### 12. SARS-CoV-2 Origins, Gain-of-Function Research and Luc Montagnier (1:06:50–1:16:03)

**category:** news_update | **confidence: 8 | **ad:** false A deep dive into the origins of SARS-CoV-2 features insights from the "Living Beyond 120" podcast and Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier. The discussion focuses on "gain-of-function" research, where viruses are manipulated to become more virulent or transmissible. The hosts suggest a "COINTELPRO" operation is active in the media to discredit scientists who claim the virus originated in a laboratory.

Keywords: [gain-of-function](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gain-of-function.md), [luc montagnier](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/luc-montagnier.md), [wuhan lab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan-lab.md), biochemistry, [cointelpro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cointelpro.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Chimeras, HIV Sequences and Anthony Fauci (1:16:03–1:25:57)

Biochemical analysis suggests SARS-CoV-2 may be a "chimera," a lab-created virus combining characteristics of different pathogens. The theory posits that researchers in Wuhan, funded by the NIH under Dr. Anthony Fauci, were using a coronavirus shell as a vector for an HIV vaccine. This would explain the presence of HIV-like sequences in the virus's genome.

Keywords: [chimera](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chimera.md), [hiv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hiv.md), [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), [nih](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nih.md), [wuhan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan.md), vaccine vector

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Viral Deterioration, Italy Direct Flights and Media Distortion (1:25:57–1:36:00)

The theory of viral deterioration suggests that as a lab-created virus passes through a population, it reverts to a "wild type" and becomes less virulent. This is used to explain why early outbreaks in Northern Italy and New York—linked to direct flights from Wuhan—were more deadly than later cases in the western United States.

Keywords: viral strains, northern italy, [wuhan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan.md), direct flights, [mutation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mutation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Texas Reopening, Austin Strip Club Safety Protocols (1:36:01–1:39:43)

Texas continues its phased reopening, with local reports detailing the safety protocols at a South Austin gentlemen's club. The club manager describes implementing 25% capacity limits, hand clickers for counting guests, and a mandatory six-foot distance for private dances to comply with Governor Greg Abbott's orders.

Keywords: [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [social distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md), [strip clubs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/strip-clubs.md), [reopening](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reopening.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/15.md)

### 16. No Agenda Stream, Social Media and Artwork Deconstruction (1:39:43–1:44:35)

The hosts promote the No Agenda Stream and the Mastodon-based "No Agenda Social" instance. They deconstruct the artwork for episode 1243, titled "Obamable," created by Mike Riley. The art features tennis balls, referencing New York regulations regarding the handling of sports equipment during the pandemic.

Keywords: [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [fediverse](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fediverse.md), [mike riley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-riley.md), [artwork](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artwork.md), tennis balls

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Producer Donations, Search Engine Updates and Legal Paradigm (1:44:36–1:52:41)

Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch provides a substantial donation and a note predicting that President Trump will use the Justice Department to pursue litigation and fines against pharmaceutical firms that moved production to China. Adam Curry also provides an update on efforts to repair the broken search functionality for the show's notes.

Keywords: [western union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/western-union.md), [bingit.io](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bingit-io.md), [litigation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/litigation.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), pharmaceutical firms

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Knighting Ceremony, Ohio Lockdowns and Saudi Arabia Update (1:52:42–1:57:34)

Producers from Ohio and Saudi Arabia provide updates on local lockdown conditions. Sir Walkman of Buckeye criticizes Ohio Governor Mike DeWine, while Sir Dave Fugazotto describes a 24-hour lockdown in Saudi Arabia following the end of Ramadan. The segment includes various "karma" requests and jingles.

Keywords: [ohio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ohio.md), [mike dewine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-dewine.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [ramadan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ramadan.md), fletcher corona

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Associate Executive Producers, Hot Take Segment and 3D Printing (1:57:35–2:05:41)

A series of $200 and $250 donations are acknowledged from producers in Michigan, Virginia, and Georgia. Sir Daddy Cast requests a custom "Hot Take" soundbite for his son's new podcast and promotes 3D-printable No Agenda accessories available on Thingiverse.

Keywords: [associate executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/associate-executive-producer.md), hot take, thingiverse, [3d printing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/3d-printing.md), [patrick seymour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patrick-seymour.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Sergeant Fred, Vietnam Veteran and Agent Orange Complications (2:05:41–2:17:31)

Long-time producer Sergeant Fred, a Vietnam combat veteran, sends a donation and a note from Austin. He requests "baby-making karma" for his daughter and son-in-law. The hosts express their gratitude for his decade of support and acknowledge the health complications he faces due to Agent Orange exposure.

Keywords: [sergeant fred](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sergeant-fred.md), [vietnam war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vietnam-war.md), [agent orange](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agent-orange.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [paratrooper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paratrooper.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Kayleigh McEnany, Voter Fraud and Susan Rice Email (2:17:31–2:28:44)

Kayleigh McEnany is highlighted for her aggressive press briefings, specifically her comments on potential voter fraud in mail-in ballots and the "unmasking" of Michael Flynn. She pointed to a declassified email from Susan Rice written on Inauguration Day as evidence of a coordinated effort to target Flynn "by the book."

Keywords: [kayleigh mcenany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kayleigh-mcenany.md), [voter fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voter-fraud.md), [susan rice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/susan-rice.md), [michael flynn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-flynn.md), [unmasking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unmasking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Off The Grid, Lineage OS and F-Droid Open Source (2:28:45–2:34:21)

In the "Off The Grid" (OTG) segment, Adam Curry discusses Lineage OS, an Android-based operating system stripped of Google services. He recommends using the F-Droid store for open-source apps and the FOSS browser for privacy. The segment warns against the new contact tracing systems being integrated into Apple and Google devices.

Keywords: lineage os, f-droid, [open source](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/open-source.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), tracking and tracing

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Mika Brzezinski, Joe Scarborough and Twitter Censorship Demand (2:34:22–2:42:48)

MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski reacted emotionally to President Trump's tweets regarding a cold case involving a former staffer of Joe Scarborough. Brzezinski announced she would contact Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey to demand the removal of the President's tweets, leading the hosts to label her "Karen Brzezinski."

Keywords: [mika brzezinski](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mika-brzezinski.md), [joe scarborough](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-scarborough.md), [jack dorsey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jack-dorsey.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/23.md)

### 24. China Espionage, Federal Thrift Fund and Stock Exchange Rules (2:42:49–2:52:22)

Maria Bartiromo interviewed President Trump regarding Chinese attempts to steal coronavirus research and the arrest of professors with undisclosed ties to China. Trump discussed blocking the Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board from investing $50 billion in Chinese companies and addressed the lack of transparent accounting for Chinese firms listed on U.S. stock exchanges.

Keywords: [maria bartiromo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maria-bartiromo.md), thrift savings plan, [alibaba](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alibaba.md), [espionage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage.md), [case western reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/case-western-reserve.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Final Donor Credits, Canadian Listeners and Value for Value (2:52:23–3:01:32)

The hosts read the final list of donors for the episode, noting a high number of new listeners from Canada and the Joe Rogan Experience. They reiterate the "value for value" model, thanking the community for providing the financial support necessary to keep the show independent of advertisers.

Keywords: [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [subscriptions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subscriptions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Birthday Shoutouts, Knighting Ceremony and Roundtable (3:01:38–3:04:49)

A formal knighting ceremony is held for Sir Scott from Michigan and Sir Kyle the Fearless, who have reached the $1,000 donation threshold. The hosts also provide a long list of birthday shoutouts for producers and their family members.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roundtable.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), sir scott, sir kyle

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Matt Lauer, Ronan Farrow and New York Times Takedown (3:04:49–3:09:07)

A recent New York Times article by Ben Smith is discussed, which questions the journalistic rigor of Ronan Farrow's reporting. Matt Lauer published a Medium post deconstructing Farrow's allegations against him, claiming the reported encounters were consensual. The hosts view this as a "douchebag fight" within the media elite.

Keywords: [matt lauer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matt-lauer.md), [ronan farrow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ronan-farrow.md), [ben smith](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-smith.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [me too](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/me-too.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Joe Biden, Ukraine Phone Calls and Viktor Shokin (3:09:07–3:17:46)

Leaked audio recordings from Ukraine appear to show then-Vice President Joe Biden pressuring President Petro Poroshenko to fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin in exchange for a $1 billion loan guarantee. The hosts analyze the "quid pro quo" nature of the conversation and contrast it with the media's treatment of Donald Trump's phone calls.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [petro poroshenko](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/petro-poroshenko.md), [viktor shokin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/viktor-shokin.md), [ukraine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ukraine.md), [quid pro quo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quid-pro-quo.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Joe Biden, Brain Aneurysm Surgeries and Speech Issues (3:17:46–3:21:17)

A 2013 clip of Joe Biden features him discussing his two previous cranial aneurysm surgeries. Biden recounts a neurosurgeon telling him he had a 35% to 50% chance of being "completely normal" after the procedures. The hosts suggest these surgeries may be the underlying cause of Biden's current speech difficulties.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [brain surgery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brain-surgery.md), [aneurysm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aneurysm.md), [neurosurgery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neurosurgery.md), morbidity

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1244-gain-of-function/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Lori Lightfoot, New World Order and Chicago Aldermen (3:21:18–3:27:30)

The hosts debate a viral clip of Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot mentioning "pledging allegiance to the New World Order." While some suspect it is a deep fake or taken out of context, Dvorak argues that the context involves Lightfoot complaining about the existing political culture among Chicago aldermen.

Keywords: [lori lightfoot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lori-lightfoot.md), [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), [new world order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-world-order.md), aldermen, [deep fake](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deep-fake.md)

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### 31. ADHD Career Statistics, Outro and Gitmo National Anthem (3:27:30–3:36:21)

The show concludes with a brief discussion on clinical studies suggesting people with ADHD often end up in sales or in prison. The episode wraps up with a series of "end of show" mixes and the Gitmo Nation National Anthem.

Keywords: [adhd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adhd.md), [sales](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sales.md), [prison](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prison.md), [gitmo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gitmo.md), [national anthem](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-anthem.md)

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