# Meat Must Flow

> National supply chains fracture as the White House disputes leaked death projections while new intelligence reports point toward a laboratory origin for the global pandemic.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1240
- **Published:** 2020-05-10
- **Length:** 3h 3m
- **Topics:** [Wuhan Lab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan-lab.md), [Plandemic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plandemic.md), Meat Shortages, Artemis Accords, Social Surveillance, [Five Eyes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/five-eyes.md), [Honeywell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/honeywell.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow

## About this episode

President Donald Trump toured a Honeywell Aerospace plant in Arizona this week to highlight the domestic production of N95 masks, notably opting for safety glasses over a facial covering despite factory requirements. The visit coincides with a leaked internal draft from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health projecting 200,000 American deaths by June, a document HHS Secretary Alex Azar dismissed as unvetted data. Meanwhile, the Five Eyes intelligence alliance reportedly produced a 15-page dossier detailing how the Chinese Communist Party misled the global community regarding the laboratory origins of the outbreak in Wuhan.

Domestic tensions flare as Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot defends her professional haircut against stay-at-home orders while Austin Mayor Steve Adler admits to using social pressure to enforce mask mandates. In the United Kingdom, Neil Ferguson resigned from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies following a lockdown violation, as a code review of his Imperial College model revealed significant software engineering flaws. Dr. Judy Mikovits has emerged as a viral figure through the Plandemic documentary, alleging that Dr. Anthony Fauci suppressed research into vaccine interference and the risks of cytokine storms. Simultaneously, major retailers like Wendy’s report meat shortages, a crisis the media has leveraged to promote plant-based alternatives from Impossible Foods.

Governor Jim Justice of West Virginia blamed a live-on-air expletive on a technical audio glitch, providing a rare moment of levity amidst the rollout of workplace social surveillance apps. The episode features a deep dive into the Artemis Accords for lunar mining and the strange murder-suicide of University of Pittsburgh researcher Bing Liu. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak recognize the latest round of knighthoods and damehoods from the No Agenda community, including a ten-year anniversary tribute to the show’s value-for-value model.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/transcript.md.

### 1. Podcasting Workflow, Austin and Silicon Valley Studio Updates (0:00–2:53)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1240 of the No Agenda show from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. They discuss their respective workflows for organizing audio clips, with one host using a landscape-printed sheet for notes and the other using a digital clip bin. The hosts note that Texas is beginning a "road to recovery" with the scheduled reopening of barber shops and hair salons on May 8, 2020.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [show notes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/show-notes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Mayor Lori Lightfoot, Chicago Haircut Controversy (2:53–5:53)

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot faced public criticism after receiving a professional haircut despite issuing stay-at-home orders and PSAs telling citizens to avoid salons. Lightfoot defended her actions by stating she is the public face of the city and takes personal hygiene seriously. Meanwhile, Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced a phased reopening of businesses, including salons on May 8 and gyms on May 18, 2020.

Keywords: [lori lightfoot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lori-lightfoot.md), [chicago](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicago.md), [social distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md), personal hygiene, [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [greg abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-abbott.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Mayor Steve Adler, Austin Mask Mandates (5:53–7:09)

Austin Mayor Steve Adler addressed the conflict between city-level mask mandates and Governor Greg Abbott's state orders which removed criminal penalties for not wearing facial coverings. Adler stated that while he cannot fine citizens, he intends to keep masks mandatory in Austin through social pressure and guilt. He argued that the true penalty for non-compliance is the potential for increased infections and deaths.

Keywords: [steve adler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-adler.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [greg abbott](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greg-abbott.md), [face masks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/face-masks.md), [coronavirus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coronavirus.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Donald Trump, Arizona Honeywell Plant Visit (7:10–8:52)

President Donald Trump visited a Honeywell Aerospace plant in Arizona that was repurposed to produce N95 face masks. Trump opted to wear safety glasses but no face mask during the tour, despite factory signs requiring facial coverings. During the trip, Trump also met with Native American leaders and promised $500 million in relief funds to the Navajo Nation, which has been severely impacted by COVID-19.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [arizona](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arizona.md), [honeywell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/honeywell.md), [n95 masks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/n95-masks.md), [navajo nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/navajo-nation.md), [cares act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cares-act.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Kayleigh McEnany, Political Symbolism of Face Masks (8:54–14:14)

White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany addressed the partisan divide regarding face masks, framing the decision to wear one as a matter of individual choice. The discussion posits that masks have become a political symbol, with Democrats viewing them as a sign of compliance and "virtue signaling," while some Republicans view them as "muzzles" intended to silence dissent. One host describes a custom-painted clown mask used to ridicule the social requirement of facial coverings.

Keywords: [kayleigh mcenany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kayleigh-mcenany.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), [face masks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/face-masks.md), [partisan politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/partisan-politics.md), [virtue signaling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/virtue-signaling.md), muzzles

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Global Coronavirus Response Rankings, Apple Maps Mobility Data (14:15–16:45)

An NBC-published global survey ranked China and Vietnam as having the best responses to the coronavirus outbreak, while the United States ranked significantly lower and Sweden was omitted. Analysis of Apple Maps mobility data shows a sharp decline in transit activity across most countries, including Sweden, despite its lack of a formal lockdown. Recent data from New York suggests that 60% of viral transmissions occurred within the home during stay-at-home orders.

Keywords: [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [vietnam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vietnam.md), [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), apple maps, mobility data

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School, Leaked Death Projection Model (16:45–18:22)

An internal draft document from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health was leaked to the Washington Post, projecting 200,000 U.S. deaths by the end of June 2020. The lead researcher expressed confusion over how the unfinished model reached the press. The hosts link the institution to "Event 201," a pandemic exercise held in late 2019, suggesting the leak was intended to influence public policy against reopening.

Keywords: [johns hopkins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/johns-hopkins.md), bloomberg school of public health, [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), death projections, [event 201](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/event-201.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Jake Tapper, Governor Gretchen Whitmer Interview (18:22–21:01)

CNN anchor Jake Tapper interviewed Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer regarding anti-lockdown protests at the state capital. Tapper drew a comparison between the Michigan protesters and the neo-Nazi marchers in Charlottesville, asking if Whitmer viewed them in the same "extreme" vein. Whitmer responded by claiming the protests featured Confederate flags, nooses, and swastikas, asserting that such behavior does not represent the people of Michigan.

Keywords: [jake tapper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jake-tapper.md), [gretchen whitmer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gretchen-whitmer.md), [michigan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michigan.md), [charlottesville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlottesville.md), [protests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/protests.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Alex Azar, White House Response to CDC Draft Report (21:02–23:35)

Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar appeared on Fox & Friends to address reports of a CDC and FEMA draft predicting 3,000 daily deaths by June 1, 2020. Azar dismissed the figures as "draft initial projections" that had not been reviewed by the White House Coronavirus Task Force. The discussion highlights public confusion caused by the proliferation of conflicting scientific models used to justify economic shutdowns.

Keywords: [alex azar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-azar.md), [hhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hhs.md), [fox and friends](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-and-friends.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [fema](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema.md), death models

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Neil Ferguson, Imperial College Model Code Review (23:36–27:15)

Neil Ferguson resigned from the UK's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) after violating lockdown protocols to meet a romantic partner. A professional code review of Ferguson’s influential pandemic model by the group "Lockdown Skeptics" revealed significant software engineering flaws, including non-repeatable outputs and a lack of regression testing. The review characterized the model as "stochastic," meaning its results are largely determined by random variables.

Keywords: [neil ferguson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-ferguson.md), imperial college london, lockdown skeptics, [software engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/software-engineering.md), stochastic modeling

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Dr. Drew Pinsky, Pandemic Mitigation Strategies (27:15–29:24)

Dr. Drew Pinsky argues that there is only one documented case of outdoor viral transmission and that sunlight rapidly kills the virus, making outdoor activities relatively safe. He claims that the concept of total economic shutdowns originated from a 2006 Bush administration plan based on a high school science project rather than established medical science. Pinsky suggests that social distancing and masks may be sufficient to prevent a "second wave" without returning to full isolation.

Keywords: [dr. drew pinsky](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-drew-pinsky.md), [social distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md), [quarantine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quarantine.md), outdoor transmission, sunlight

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Hurricane Tracking Models, Climate Change Parallels (29:26–31:50)

The proliferation of coronavirus models is compared to modern hurricane forecasting, where meteorologists now present dozens of different "tracks" rather than a single prediction. This shift is viewed as a way for experts to avoid responsibility by claiming "one of the models" was correct regardless of the outcome. The hosts suggest this methodology is also used in climate change discourse to maintain specific policy trajectories without accountability for accuracy.

Keywords: hurricane tracking, [mit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mit.md), [weather forecasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-forecasting.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), predictive modeling

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/12.md)

### 13. David Icke, Social Censorship and 5G Theories (31:50–38:40)

Conspiracy theorist David Icke was removed from major platforms including YouTube, Facebook, and Spotify following interviews linking 5G technology to the health crisis. Icke criticized UK regulator Ofcom for threatening broadcasters who discuss the 5G connection. While the hosts remain skeptical of specific 5G claims, they argue that the "social censorship" of Icke's views is a dangerous precedent that drives audiences toward alternative platforms like BitChute.

Keywords: [david icke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-icke.md), [5g](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/5g.md), [ofcom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ofcom.md), social censorship, [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [spotify](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spotify.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/13.md)

### 14. 5G Infrastructure Rollout, Essential Personnel Status (38:40–41:17)

Reports indicate that 5G telecommunications masts are being installed at an accelerated rate across the UK and the United States during the COVID-19 lockdowns. Because telecommunications work is classified as "essential," crews are able to install towers while most citizens are confined to their homes. The hosts note the irony of rapid infrastructure deployment occurring while routine public works, such as road repairs, remain stalled.

Keywords: 5g towers, [infrastructure](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infrastructure.md), [lockdown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdown.md), interstate 5, [essential workers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/essential-workers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Governor Jim Justice, West Virginia Audio Glitch (41:18–42:52)

West Virginia Governor Jim Justice denied using an expletive during a live news briefing, attributing the perceived profanity to an "audio glitch." Justice insisted he would never use such language and that the sound was a technical malfunction. The hosts review the audio, noting that while a glitch is audible, the context remains ambiguous and humorous to the public.

Keywords: [jim justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jim-justice.md), [west virginia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/west-virginia.md), [audio glitch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-glitch.md), [profanity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/profanity.md), [press conference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/press-conference.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Donald Trump, Lincoln Memorial Virtual Town Hall (42:53–48:05)

President Donald Trump participated in a Fox News virtual town hall at the Lincoln Memorial, where he discussed the necessity of bringing the pharmaceutical supply chain back to the United States from China and Ireland. Trump appeared defensive when questioned by Martha MacCallum regarding specific timelines for self-sufficiency. He argued that his "America First" policy is essential for national security, particularly regarding the production of antibiotics and potential vaccines.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [lincoln memorial](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lincoln-memorial.md), pharmaceutical supply chain, [america first](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/america-first.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Five Eyes Intelligence, Wuhan Lab Origin Theory (48:05–52:13)

A 15-page intelligence report from the "Five Eyes" alliance reportedly details how China misled the global community regarding the origins of COVID-19. President Trump stated he has a "high confidence" the virus originated in a Wuhan laboratory, though he clarified it may have been an accidental leak rather than a man-made bioweapon. Trump criticized China for banning domestic travel from Wuhan while allowing international flights to continue during the initial outbreak.

Keywords: [five eyes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/five-eyes.md), [wuhan institute of virology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan-institute-of-virology.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [president xi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/president-xi.md), intelligence report

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Mike Pompeo, DNI Consensus on Virus Origins (52:14–57:01)

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo claimed there is "enormous evidence" that the coronavirus originated in the Wuhan laboratory. He appeared to contradict the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI), which stated the virus was not man-made or genetically modified. The hosts analyze Pompeo's "in context" qualifier, suggesting he was acknowledging the DNI's report on scientific consensus without necessarily agreeing with the scientists' conclusions.

Keywords: [mike pompeo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pompeo.md), [dni](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dni.md), [wuhan lab](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan-lab.md), [bioweapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bioweapons.md), [intelligence community](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence-community.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Australia-China Relations, Hollywood Censorship Legislation (57:01–1:01:25)

Diplomatic tensions between Australia and China escalated after a Chinese state media editor compared Australia to "chewing gum stuck to the shoe of China." Meanwhile, Senator Ted Cruz is pushing for legislation to prevent Hollywood studios from self-censoring to please the Chinese Communist Party, citing the removal of a Taiwanese flag from the "Top Gun: Maverick" trailer. The move is seen as an effort to decouple American cultural exports from Chinese influence.

Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [chewing gum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chewing-gum.md), [ted cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-cruz.md), [taiwan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taiwan.md), [top gun](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/top-gun.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Bing Liu, University of Pittsburgh Murder-Suicide (1:01:27–1:02:47)

Bing Liu, a 37-year-old researcher at the University of Pittsburgh who was reportedly close to a "significant finding" regarding the cellular mechanism of COVID-19, was found shot to death in an apparent murder-suicide. Police believe Liu was killed by an acquaintance who then took his own life in a nearby vehicle. The timing of the death has fueled public speculation regarding the nature of Liu's research and potential foul play.

Keywords: bing liu, [university of pittsburgh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-pittsburgh.md), [murder-suicide](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/murder-suicide.md), coronavirus research, [pittsburgh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pittsburgh.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Dr. Judy Mikovits, Plandemic Documentary and Retroviruses (1:02:47–1:09:58)

The "Plandemic" documentary featuring Dr. Judy Mikovits has gained significant traction despite widespread social media censorship. Mikovits, a former government scientist, claims that her research into Xenotropic Murine Leukemia Virus-Related Virus (XMRV) revealed that contaminated vaccines and blood supplies were causing neuroimmune diseases like chronic fatigue syndrome. She alleges that Dr. Anthony Fauci and other health officials suppressed her findings to protect the pharmaceutical industry's interests.

Keywords: [judy mikovits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/judy-mikovits.md), [plandemic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plandemic.md), xmrv, chronic fatigue syndrome, [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Vaccine Interference, Flu Shots and COVID-19 Susceptibility (1:09:58–1:14:30)

A 2017-2018 Department of Defense study is cited, suggesting that individuals who received the seasonal flu vaccine had a 36% higher chance of contracting other respiratory viruses, including coronaviruses. Dr. Judy Mikovits argues that "vaccine interference" makes the population more susceptible to COVID-19. The discussion explores the risks of live attenuated vaccines and the potential for cross-contamination in biological therapies.

Keywords: prevnar 13, [flu vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flu-vaccine.md), vaccine interference, military study, [respiratory disease](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/respiratory-disease.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Cytokine Storms, Hydroxychloroquine vs. Remdesivir (1:14:30–1:20:17)

Dr. Judy Mikovits warns that experimental COVID-19 vaccines could trigger fatal "cytokine storms" by over-activating the immune system upon re-exposure to the virus. She accuses Dr. Anthony Fauci of blocking effective, low-cost treatments like hydroxychloroquine in favor of expensive drugs like Remdesivir. Mikovits advocates for natural herd immunity and prophylactic measures rather than prolonged lockdowns and mandatory vaccinations.

Keywords: [cytokine storm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cytokine-storm.md), [hydroxychloroquine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydroxychloroquine.md), [remdesivir](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/remdesivir.md), [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), [herd immunity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/herd-immunity.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Dr. Rick Bright, Whistleblower Testimony and PPE Shortages (1:20:18–1:24:12)

Dr. Rick Bright, the former head of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), has filed a whistleblower complaint alleging he was reassigned for resisting political pressure to promote hydroxychloroquine. Bright claims he warned the Trump administration about N95 mask shortages in January 2020 but was ignored. The hosts characterize Bright as a disgruntled government worker whose claims are being amplified by Democrats to facilitate a second impeachment attempt.

Keywords: [rick bright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rick-bright.md), [barda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barda.md), [whistleblower](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whistleblower.md), [hhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hhs.md), [n95 masks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/n95-masks.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Tanzania Test Kit Failure, Goat and Papaya Positives (1:24:13–1:26:55)

Tanzanian President John Magufuli, a trained chemist, dismissed imported coronavirus test kits as faulty after samples taken from a goat and a pawpaw (papaya) fruit returned positive results. Magufuli suggested the kits were either technically flawed or intentionally sabotaged. This incident highlights ongoing concerns regarding the reliability of PCR testing and the potential for high false-positive rates globally.

Keywords: [tanzania](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tanzania.md), john magufuli, [pcr tests](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pcr-tests.md), [goat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goat.md), pawpaw

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/25.md)

### 26. No Agenda Community, Episode 1239 Art Selection (1:26:55–1:30:51)

The hosts discuss the community-submitted artwork for the previous episode, "The Beaches Are Open." They highlight a piece by Comic Strip Blogger and mention a rejected submission by Darren that featured a parody of the Kentucky Fried Chicken logo with Joe Biden. The hosts explain their criteria for selecting art, noting they avoid "gratuitous" or overly lewd imagery while encouraging creative contributions from the "trolls" in the live stream.

Keywords: [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [comic strip blogger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comic-strip-blogger.md), darren, tommy the heretic, [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/26.md)

### 27. No Agenda Donation Segment, Knighting and Damehoods (1:30:51–1:39:38)

In the first donation segment, the hosts thank producers for their financial support under the "value-for-value" model. Sir David, the Duke of America's Heartland, contributes $666.66 and shares a history of Mother's Day founder Ann Jarvis. Other donors are recognized with titles such as "Sir Raleigh of Crystal Palace" and "Dame Swanee." The segment emphasizes the community's role in keeping the show independent and ad-free.

Keywords: [sir david](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sir-david.md), ann jarvis, [mother's day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mother-s-day.md), knight of the round table, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Small Business Karma, Ohio Urban Farming (1:39:40–1:44:30)

Producer Drew Sample, an urban farmer in Columbus, Ohio, describes how the shutdown of dine-in restaurants decimated his income. He offers home delivery of microgreens to listeners in the Columbus and Toledo areas to bypass the broken supply chain. The hosts grant "small business karma" to Sample and other producers affected by the economic lockdowns, encouraging direct commerce within the No Agenda community.

Keywords: drew sample, [columbus ohio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/columbus-ohio.md), [urban farming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/urban-farming.md), microgreens, [small business](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/small-business.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Listener Letters, Title Changes and COVID Karma (1:44:31–1:48:56)

Listeners request title changes and "karma" for various personal situations, including a dental hygienist returning to work and a producer seeking a new job. Joe Bisesi clarifies a previous misunderstanding regarding his name, and "Captain Luke" is knighted as the Knight of the Barbary Coast. The segment includes a "Corona Karma" jingle for those navigating the pandemic's social and economic challenges.

Keywords: lady kara, dental hygienist, joe bisesi, captain luke, [corona karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corona-karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Tenth Anniversary Donations, Global Listener Base (1:49:00–1:56:50)

David Walsh from Queensland, Australia, celebrates ten years of listening to the show with a $200 donation for his knighthood. Sonja Bozenberg from Madison, Wisconsin, requests a Gregorian chant-style donation jingle. The hosts reflect on the "three-legged stool" of the show's production: the two hosts and the active participation of the global audience, which distinguishes the program from traditional radio.

Keywords: david walsh, gold coast australia, sonja bozenberg, gregorian chant, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Meat Shortages, Impossible Foods Native Advertising (1:56:58–2:00:27)

Major grocery chains and fast-food outlets like Wendy's are facing meat shortages due to processing plant closures. The hosts highlight a CBS News report that seamlessly transitioned from news about the shortage to a "native ad" for Impossible Foods' plant-based burgers. They argue that the media is using the crisis to push alternative food products that consumers largely rejected during the initial stages of the pandemic.

Keywords: meat shortage, [tyson foods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tyson-foods.md), [wendy's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wendy-s.md), [impossible burger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impossible-burger.md), [native advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/native-advertising.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Artemis Accords, Lunar Mining and Space Exploration (2:00:28–2:03:52)

The Trump administration is reportedly drafting the "Artemis Accords," an international legal framework for mining resources on the moon. The pact would establish "safety zones" around lunar bases to prevent interference from rival nations or companies. The hosts express skepticism regarding the timeline of space exploration, questioning why significant lunar progress hasn't been made in the 50 years since the Apollo missions.

Keywords: artemis accords, moon mining, [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [elon musk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elon-musk.md), [zero hedge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zero-hedge.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Mutant Virus Strains, Los Alamos National Laboratory Study (2:03:52–2:07:28)

CBS News anchor Nora O'Donnell reported on a "more powerful mutant strain" of the coronavirus, which the hosts criticize as sensationalist fear-mongering. A study from the Los Alamos National Laboratory suggests a mutation that emerged in Europe may be more contagious than the original strain from China. The findings, which have not been peer-reviewed, were released early to assist vaccine developers in tracking the virus's evolution.

Keywords: mutant strain, [nora o'donnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nora-o-donnell.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [los alamos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-alamos.md), [vaccine development](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-development.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Pediatric Multi-System Inflammatory Syndrome, Kawasaki Disease (2:07:28–2:09:15)

Health officials in New York City are investigating a mysterious inflammatory syndrome in children that may be linked to COVID-19. The illness resembles Kawasaki disease, with symptoms including persistent fever, rash, and heart inflammation. While most children were previously thought to be at low risk, this "pediatric multi-system inflammatory syndrome" has placed several dozen children in intensive care, causing new concerns for parents.

Keywords: kawasaki disease, pediatric illness, [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [inflammation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inflammation.md), [children](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/children.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Contact Tracing Apps, Alberta Trace Together (2:09:16–2:12:05)

Alberta, Canada, has launched "ABTraceTogether," the first contact tracing app in North America, which uses Bluetooth to log encounters between users. If a user tests positive, they can voluntarily share their data with health officials to notify others to self-isolate. Similar programs are being implemented in Singapore and the Netherlands, raising significant privacy concerns regarding the government's ability to monitor social interactions and movements.

Keywords: [contact tracing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contact-tracing.md), [bluetooth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bluetooth.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [alberta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alberta.md), [singapore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/singapore.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Social Surveillance, Workplace Distancing Gamification (2:12:06–2:16:19)

The hosts propose the term "social surveillance" or "social supervision" to describe the new era of tracking and monitoring. The Wall Street Journal reports that corporations are implementing smartphone apps to track employee movements within offices, "gamifying" social distancing by giving workers scores based on how well they maintain a six-foot distance from colleagues. This trend is viewed as an intrusive expansion of corporate and state control over individual behavior.

Keywords: social surveillance, [social distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md), [wall street journal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wall-street-journal.md), [gamification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gamification.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Microsoft 365, Outlook Login Requirements (2:16:20–2:18:26)

A host describes a frustrating experience with Microsoft Outlook, where a recent update required a login to Microsoft 365 before allowing the user to send an email. This shift toward cloud-integrated, subscription-based software is criticized for reducing user autonomy and increasing data collection. The discussion contrasts this with open-source alternatives like SquirrelMail and command-line email clients that offer more privacy.

Keywords: [microsoft 365](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft-365.md), [outlook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outlook.md), [windows 10](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/windows-10.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), email clients

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Plaid Networks, Class Action Lawsuit (2:18:27–2:20:47)

A class-action lawsuit has been filed against Plaid, a financial technology company recently acquired by Visa, for allegedly selling users' private banking data to third parties without consent. Plaid acts as an intermediary for apps like Venmo and Cash App, requiring users to provide their bank login credentials. The hosts warn against giving bank passwords to third-party software, noting that many users are unaware of the privacy risks involved.

Keywords: [plaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plaid.md), [venmo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/venmo.md), [visa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/visa.md), [class action](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/class-action.md), bank privacy

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Kayleigh McEnany, Media Confrontation on Virus Comments (2:20:47–2:24:25)

White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany confronted reporters who questioned her past comments about the coronavirus not reaching the U.S. McEnany responded with a prepared list of headlines from Vox, the Washington Post, and the New York Times that had similarly downplayed the virus's threat in early 2020. The exchange highlighted McEnany's aggressive style and the "leaks" within the press corps that allow her to anticipate specific lines of questioning.

Keywords: [kayleigh mcenany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kayleigh-mcenany.md), [white house press corps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house-press-corps.md), [vox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vox.md), [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/39.md)

### 40. News Personalities, Direct Camera Addresses to Trump (2:24:25–2:28:30)

A new trend in cable news involves anchors like CNN's Don Lemon and MSNBC's Joe Scarborough looking directly into the camera to address President Trump personally. Lemon questioned Trump's obsession with Barack Obama, while Scarborough urged the President to "take a rest" and let Mike Pence run the country. The hosts characterize this as a shift from journalism to performance art intended to satisfy a specific partisan audience.

Keywords: [don lemon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/don-lemon.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [joe scarborough](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-scarborough.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [editorializing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/editorializing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/40.md)

### 41. The Lincoln Project, George Conway and Trump Tweets (2:28:30–2:32:14)

The Lincoln Project, a group of anti-Trump Republicans, released an ad titled "Mourning in America" criticizing the administration's pandemic response. President Trump responded on Twitter by attacking George Conway, calling him a "deranged loser" and "moonface." The hosts discuss the bizarre dynamic between George and his wife, White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, questioning if the public feud is a form of "controlled opposition."

Keywords: [the lincoln project](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-lincoln-project.md), [george conway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-conway.md), [kellyanne conway](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kellyanne-conway.md), morning in america, bernie bros

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Project Veritas, CBS News Staged Testing Line (2:32:14–2:35:46)

Project Veritas released undercover footage and whistleblower testimony alleging that CBS News staged a line of cars at a Michigan testing site to make it appear busier than it was. The report claims that hospital staff and interns were told to line up their vehicles for the camera, causing actual patients to wait longer for tests. The hosts cite this as an example of why mainstream media credibility is declining.

Keywords: [project veritas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/project-veritas.md), [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [michigan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michigan.md), [staged news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/staged-news.md), adriana diaz

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Final Donation Segment, Peerage and Birthday Recognition (2:35:47–2:46:59)

The final donation segment recognizes numerous producers, including a poignant $100 donation from Meredith Talbot in honor of her late fiancé, Brendan. The hosts perform a knighting ceremony for Scott Porter, Anonymous, and David Walsh, welcoming them to the No Agenda Round Table. They also acknowledge several birthdays and title changes within the community, reinforcing the "peerage" system that sustains the show.

Keywords: joseph salazar, christopher kessler, meredith talbot, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [round table](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/round-table.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/43.md)

### 44. ADOS Movement, Diddy and the Black Vote (2:47:00–2:50:40)

The American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) movement is gaining political traction, with figures like Sean "Diddy" Combs stating that the black vote should not be given to the Democratic Party for free. Diddy argued that Joe Biden must offer "tangibles," such as a clear plan for reparations, rather than just more studies. The hosts suggest that the Democrats' assumption of total support from the African-American community is being challenged by this demand for specific policy results.

Keywords: [ados](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ados.md), [diddy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diddy.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [reparations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reparations.md), [black vote](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-vote.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Tara Reade Allegations, New York Times Letters (2:50:41–2:53:56)

The New York Times published letters to the editor regarding the sexual assault allegations made by Tara Reade against Joe Biden. One notable letter from former Times reporter Martin Tolchin stated that he does not want an investigation, but rather a "coronation" of Biden to ensure Donald Trump's defeat. The hosts point to this as evidence of blatant media bias and a "win at all costs" mentality among the Democratic establishment.

Keywords: [tara reade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tara-reade.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), martin tolchin, [sexual assault allegations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-assault-allegations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Michael Flynn, Military Intelligence Theories (2:53:57–2:55:45)

A list of theories from a military intelligence source explains why Michael Flynn was considered dangerous to the "deep state." The claims include Flynn's knowledge of Hillary Clinton's weapon transfers from Libya to Syria, the role of Ukraine in the Arab Spring, and the "stand-down" order during the Benghazi attack. Most significantly, Flynn reportedly intended to audit the various U.S. intelligence agencies, making him a primary target for removal.

Keywords: [michael flynn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-flynn.md), [libya](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libya.md), [benghazi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/benghazi.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Alaska School District, Book Bans and Curriculum Changes (2:55:47–2:58:20)

The Mat-Su School District in Alaska voted to remove several seminal novels from its high school curriculum, including "Catch-22," "The Great Gatsby," and "I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings." The board cited concerns over "controversial" content, though the move faced significant backlash from students and parents. The hosts criticize the decision as an example of over-socialization and the erosion of classical education.

Keywords: [alaska](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alaska.md), mat-su school district, book ban, catch-22, the great gatsby

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/47.md)

### 48. San Francisco Die-In, California Beach Closures (2:58:20–3:03:14)

Medical students staged a "die-in" outside San Francisco Mayor London Breed's home to protest the city's failure to house the homeless in vacant hotel rooms. Meanwhile, Governor Gavin Newsom ordered the closure of beaches in Orange County after large crowds gathered, a move seen as targeting a Republican-leaning area. The show concludes with a musical mix by Jesse Coy Nelson and a final sign-off from the hosts.

Keywords: [london breed](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london-breed.md), [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [homeless](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeless.md), [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), [orange county](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/orange-county.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1240-meat-must-flow/chapter/48.md)

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