# Orange Tongue

> Shifting epidemiological models and a strengthening US dollar redefine the global landscape as world leaders weigh the merits of digital tracking and temporary global governance.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1229
- **Published:** 2020-04-02
- **Length:** 3h 9m
- **Topics:** [Imperial College](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imperial-college.md), [Petrodollar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/petrodollar.md), Taipei Act, [BlackRock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackrock.md), [Social Distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md), [Nicolas Maduro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicolas-maduro.md), Digital Surveillance
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue

## About this episode

Dr. Deborah Birx faces a swift media backlash after praising President Donald Trump’s data-driven approach during a Christian Broadcast Network interview. The fallout coincides with a massive downward revision of the Imperial College COVID-19 model, where Neil Ferguson slashed projected UK deaths from 500,000 to 20,000. These shifting metrics raise urgent questions about the transparency of the data used to justify national lockdowns across the United States and Great Britain.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi accused the White House of deadly denial on CNN, while reports from Sinclair Broadcasting suggest the CDC may have intentionally misled HHS Secretary Alex Azar regarding diagnostic test development. In the financial sector, BlackRock is now managing Federal Reserve assets, signaling a potential nationalization of the central bank as the US dollar crushes the British pound and Russian ruble. Meanwhile, Poland has mandated a quarantine app requiring random selfies, and UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres calls for a temporary global government to manage the pandemic response. Attorney General William Barr also unsealed narco-terrorism indictments against Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro, offering a $15 million reward for his arrest.

Bob Dylan released a 16-minute epic titled Murder Most Foul, sparking theories about the declassification of JFK assassination files. John C. Dvorak shares brisket-cooking insights from Aaron Franklin while Adam Curry analyzes the neuro-linguistic programming behind the phrase social distancing. The episode concludes with a look at Dr. Birx’s scarf knots and a South Korean report on antibody wristbands.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/transcript.md.

### 1. No Agenda Episode 1229, Transportation and Infrastructure Appreciation (0:00–2:22)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1229 of the No Agenda show on March 29, 2020, broadcasting from Austin, Texas, and Silicon Valley. They discuss the status of the Zephyr train and express gratitude toward truck drivers and IT professionals maintaining internet bandwidth during the early COVID-19 lockdowns. The hosts introduce the theme of the episode as "Counting Masks."

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [opportunity zone 33](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opportunity-zone-33.md), [zephyr report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zephyr-report.md), [truckers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/truckers.md), [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), border gateway protocol

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Dr. Deborah Birx, CBN Interview and Media Backlash (2:22–4:59)

Dr. Deborah Birx faced criticism and "canceling" on social media following an interview with the Christian Broadcast Network (CBN). In the clip, Birx praised President Donald Trump's ability to analyze granular scientific data and integrate his business background into medical discussions. The hosts note that her positive comments about the President's competence triggered a negative reaction from mainstream media outlets.

Keywords: [deborah birx](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deborah-birx.md), christian broadcast network, [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [obama administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obama-administration.md), [data analysis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-analysis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Imperial College Model, Neil Ferguson and COVID-19 Data Adjustments (5:00–10:22)

Dr. Deborah Birx addressed the media regarding significant downward adjustments to the Imperial College COVID-19 model created by Neil Ferguson. The original projections of 500,000 deaths in the UK and 2.2 million in the US were drastically reduced as real-world data emerged. Birx explained that the high initial estimates relied on assumptions of massive asymptomatic infection rates that have not been observed in the field.

Keywords: [imperial college](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imperial-college.md), [neil ferguson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-ferguson.md), [deborah birx](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deborah-birx.md), [covid-19 models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19-models.md), asymptomatic cases, antibody tests

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Neil Ferguson, Hoof-and-Mouth Disease and Policy Influence (10:22–13:39)

The hosts critique the track record of epidemiologist Neil Ferguson, noting his history of inaccurate predictions regarding Hoof-and-Mouth disease and Swine Flu. They question why his Imperial College model was used to justify national lockdowns in the UK and US when he adjusted his figures just days after the policies were implemented. The discussion focuses on the lack of transparency regarding who specifically convinced President Trump to shut down the country based on these models.

Keywords: [neil ferguson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neil-ferguson.md), [boris johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boris-johnson.md), hoof-and-mouth disease, [swine flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swine-flu.md), lockdown policy, r number

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Media Financial Crisis, Ad Revenue Declines and Trump Opposition (13:39–18:52)

A production manager at a CBS affiliate in North Dakota reports that local television ad revenue is collapsing as events cancel and stores close. Despite higher viewership, the media industry is facing a financial crisis. The hosts argue that mainstream media outlets are willing to suffer financial losses if the negative coverage helps prevent the reelection of Donald Trump, citing Bill Maher's previous comments about preferring a recession to a Trump victory.

Keywords: [cbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs.md), [bismarck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bismarck.md), ad buys, [bill maher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-maher.md), [recession](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recession.md), [mainstream media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mainstream-media.md), trump reelection

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/5.md)

### 6. COVID-19 Strains, L-Strain and S-Strain Research (18:53–21:17)

A No Agenda producer and pharmacist working in Massachusetts confirms the existence of two distinct strains of COVID-19, referred to as the L-strain and the S-strain. While the L-strain is reportedly more severe, the S-strain may result in milder symptoms and potential immunity. The hosts highlight the lack of mainstream media reporting on these different viral variations and their respective treatment protocols.

Keywords: [l-strain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/l-strain.md), [s-strain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/s-strain.md), [oxford university press](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oxford-university-press.md), [massachusetts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/massachusetts.md), hospital protocols, [immunity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/immunity.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Ventilator Stockpiles, Governor Cuomo and Hospital Capacity (21:18–26:05)

Dr. Deborah Birx and Governor Andrew Cuomo provide conflicting narratives regarding a ventilator shortage in New York. While the media reported a desperate lack of equipment, Birx stated that thousands of ventilators remained unutilized in stockpiles. Cuomo later clarified that while hospitals had enough for current needs, they were stockpiling equipment in anticipation of a projected "apex" in 20 days.

Keywords: [andrew cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-cuomo.md), [bill de blasio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-de-blasio.md), [ventilators](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ventilators.md), [icu beds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/icu-beds.md), javit center, dnr orders

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Hospital Management, Respiratory Therapists and The Surge (26:05–28:23)

Emails from medical professionals suggest that the primary bottleneck in COVID-19 response is a lack of trained staff, such as Respiratory Therapists, rather than a lack of physical ventilators. A nurse in Los Angeles reports low patient numbers despite the presence of triage tents. The hosts discuss how hospital business models, which prioritize 90% occupancy for profitability, left the system unprepared for a sudden surge.

Keywords: registered respiratory therapists, [medicaid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medicaid.md), [insurance companies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance-companies.md), [hospital beds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hospital-beds.md), [los angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-angeles.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Just-In-Time Inventory, PPE Shortages and Hospital Administration (28:23–32:42)

A clinician explains that hospital shortages of Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) are the result of "Just-In-Time" inventory management practices adopted from the auto industry. These lean processes prioritize balance sheets over emergency preparedness, leaving facilities with only a week's supply of masks. Meanwhile, hospitals in Washington and California are reportedly facing layoffs or have previously sold off their emergency mobile hospital kits.

Keywords: sigma psi, [toyota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toyota.md), inventory management, [ppe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ppe.md), [masks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/masks.md), [layoffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/layoffs.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Dr. David Price, COVID-19 Transmission and Prevention (32:42–37:08)

Dr. David Price of Weill Cornell Medical Center describes COVID-19 transmission as occurring almost exclusively through sustained contact and hand-to-face transfer. He emphasizes that the virus is not easily caught through casual contact and that masks serve primarily as a reminder not to touch one's face. The hosts compare this information to the more alarmist coverage found in US media versus international outlets like Al Jazeera.

Keywords: david price, hand-to-face transmission, [social distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md), [aerosolization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aerosolization.md), [al jazeera](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-jazeera.md), [sky news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sky-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Amy Goodman, Testing Logic and Political Fear (37:09–41:01)

Amy Goodman of Democracy Now is criticized for claiming that US case numbers are surging due to a "lack of testing," which the hosts find logically inconsistent. They argue that increased testing naturally leads to higher reported case numbers, which is being used by politicians like Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters to justify a fourth coronavirus rescue bill and maintain a state of public fear.

Keywords: [amy goodman](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amy-goodman.md), [democracy now](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy-now.md), [testing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/testing.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [maxine waters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maxine-waters.md), rescue bill

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Nancy Pelosi, CNN Interview and War Rhetoric (41:02–43:37)

Speaker Nancy Pelosi appeared on CNN with Jake Tapper to criticize President Trump's handling of the pandemic, accusing his "denial" of being deadly. She compared the President to Nero "fiddling while Rome burns" and suggested an after-action review would be necessary. The hosts characterize her rhetoric as an attempt to politicize the crisis and lay the groundwork for future inquiries or impeachment.

Keywords: [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [jake tapper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jake-tapper.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), nero, [impeachment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impeachment.md), federal guidelines

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/12.md)

### 13. CDC Testing Sabotage, Robert Redfield and HHS (43:38–46:38)

A report from Sinclair Broadcasting suggests that the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) may have misled the White House and the HHS Secretary regarding the development of diagnostic tests. Former HHS official Bill Meeks alleged that the CDC's failure to produce a working test delayed the national response by weeks. The hosts speculate whether this was a bureaucratic error or intentional sabotage by "deep state" technocrats.

Keywords: [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [robert redfield](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-redfield.md), [alex azar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alex-azar.md), [sinclair broadcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sinclair-broadcasting.md), [deep state](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deep-state.md), diagnostic tests

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Global Death Counts, Italy and EU Financial Incentives (46:38–48:43)

The hosts question the accuracy of COVID-19 death tolls in Italy and Spain, suggesting that financial incentives from the European Union may be influencing how deaths are recorded. In Italy, the percentage of deaths directly attributed to COVID-19 was reportedly revised downward. Spain's National Health Institute has instructed coroners not to perform autopsies, leading to suspicions that any death involving a positive test is being labeled a coronavirus fatality.

Keywords: [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [spain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spain.md), [death certificates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/death-certificates.md), autopsies, [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [financial aid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/financial-aid.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Nigel Farage, European Union Sovereignty and Chinese Influence (48:43–51:06)

Nigel Farage discusses the potential collapse of the European Union as member states reimpose borders and ignore the Schengen Agreement. He notes that Germany's refusal to export masks to Italy allowed China to step in as a "charitable godfather" to gain global influence. Farage argues that the crisis has exposed the failure of global governance and the importance of national sovereignty.

Keywords: [nigel farage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigel-farage.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [schengen agreement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schengen-agreement.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [global governance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-governance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Rhode Island National Guard, New York Quarantine and State Borders (51:07–52:40)

Governor Gina Raimondo of Rhode Island deployed the National Guard to go door-to-door in coastal communities to identify and quarantine travelers from New York. State troopers also began stopping vehicles with New York license plates. The ACLU challenged the constitutionality of these measures, while other governors, such as Jay Inslee of Washington, considered similar state-level border restrictions.

Keywords: [gina raimondo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gina-raimondo.md), [rhode island](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rhode-island.md), [national guard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-guard.md), [aclu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aclu.md), [jay inslee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-inslee.md), [quarantine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quarantine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Social Distancing, Neuro-Linguistic Programming and Global Surveillance (52:40–54:49)

The hosts analyze the term "social distancing" as a form of neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) designed for social control rather than just physical safety. They discuss reports from Rotterdam where "watchers" enforce distance in grocery stores. Adam Curry contrasts this with his experience at a 99 Ranch Market, where mask-wearing was common and the atmosphere remained normal without aggressive enforcement.

Keywords: [social distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md), [nlp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nlp.md), [rotterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rotterdam.md), 99 ranch market, [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [social control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-control.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Drone Enforcement, Neighborhood Informants and Social Control (54:51–59:29)

Authorities in the Netherlands and the UK are using drones equipped with speakers to order citizens to stay home. Local governments have also established websites for neighbors to report on those violating lockdown rules. The hosts compare this "narking" behavior to historical precedents of social control and collaboration in occupied territories during World War II.

Keywords: [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [informants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/informants.md), narc websites, [social control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-control.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Bill Gates, CNN Town Hall and Exponential Growth (59:30–1:02:20)

Bill Gates appeared on a CNN virtual town hall with Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta to advocate for a total national lockdown. Gates emphasized the "exponential growth" of the virus and suggested that the entire country must follow the strict quarantine model used in parts of China. He predicted that shutdowns would need to continue through the end of May to effectively lower case numbers.

Keywords: [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [anderson cooper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anderson-cooper.md), [sanjay gupta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanjay-gupta.md), [event 201](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/event-201.md), [exponential growth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exponential-growth.md), [lockdowns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lockdowns.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/19.md)

### 20. South Korea Model, Digital Monitoring and Antibody Wristbands (1:02:21–1:06:20)

During his media appearances, Bill Gates and medical commentators like Dr. Drew discussed using technology to monitor the population's health status. Dr. Drew suggested "multicolored wristbands" to identify individuals with antibodies or those who are "safe" to interact with. The hosts link these proposals to Gates' previous involvement in pandemic exercises and his interest in global vaccination and tracking systems.

Keywords: [bill gates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates.md), [sanjay gupta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanjay-gupta.md), [south korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-korea.md), [dr. drew](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-drew.md), [antibodies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antibodies.md), [digital tracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-tracking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/20.md)

### 21. COVID-19 Apps, HIPAA Privacy and Health Data Integration (1:06:20–1:09:42)

The Trump administration announced new rules allowing Americans to retrieve medical data from providers via third-party apps. The hosts warn that once health data is moved from regulated systems to personal smartphones, it is no longer protected by HIPAA privacy laws. They suggest this is a coordinated effort to integrate health data into tracking apps, effectively "tagging" citizens based on their infection status.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [hipaa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hipaa.md), [health data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-data.md), [trump administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-administration.md), [data privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data-privacy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Quarantine Selfies, Poland and The "Obama Phone" (1:09:42–1:12:26)

Poland has implemented a mandatory app for quarantined individuals that requires them to upload selfies at random intervals to prove their location. The hosts joke about the difficulty of enforcing such measures on people with older flip phones, suggesting the government might eventually issue "Obama phones" or tracking bracelets to ensure total compliance with digital surveillance.

Keywords: [poland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poland.md), quarantine app, [selfies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/selfies.md), [facial recognition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facial-recognition.md), [flip phones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flip-phones.md), [obama phone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obama-phone.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/22.md)

### 23. UN Secretary-General, Gordon Brown and Global Government (1:12:27–1:15:55)

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres and former UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown have called for a coordinated global response and a "temporary form of global government" to manage the pandemic. The hosts argue that globalist entities are using the crisis to undermine national sovereignty and implement the policy outcomes simulated during the "Event 201" exercise.

Keywords: [antonio guterres](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antonio-guterres.md), [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [gordon brown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gordon-brown.md), [global governance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-governance.md), [sovereignty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sovereignty.md), [world health organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-health-organization.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/23.md)

### 24. The Division, Black Friday Pandemic and Cashless Society (1:15:57–1:19:36)

A 2013 trailer for the video game "The Division" is highlighted for its "pre-programming" of a pandemic scenario starting on Black Friday via contaminated banknotes. The hosts connect this to recent World Health Organization warnings against touching cash, suggesting a push toward a cashless society and global governance. They note that the actual death tolls have failed to meet the catastrophic models predicted by such scenarios.

Keywords: [tom clancy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-clancy.md), the division, [black friday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-friday.md), [banknotes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/banknotes.md), [world health organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-health-organization.md), [cashless society](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cashless-society.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Taipei Act, Taiwan Sovereignty and US-China Relations (1:19:38–1:22:11)

President Trump signed the Taipei Act, which threatens consequences for nations that fail to recognize Taiwan's independence. Following the signing, the US sent a warship through the Taiwan Strait. Despite these aggressive diplomatic and military moves, Trump maintained that he has a "great relationship" with Chinese President Xi Jinping following a lengthy phone call.

Keywords: taipei act, [taiwan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taiwan.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [xi jinping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/xi-jinping.md), taiwan strait, [south china sea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-china-sea.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Media Boycott, Sean Hannity and White House Briefings (1:22:12–1:24:44)

Mainstream networks like CNN and MSNBC briefly stopped carrying President Trump's daily briefings live, accusing him of spreading misinformation. In response, Trump granted an exclusive interview to Sean Hannity on Fox News. The hosts describe how the networks quickly reversed their boycott once they realized they were losing viewership and access to the President's primary communications.

Keywords: [sean hannity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sean-hannity.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), white house briefings, [narcissism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/narcissism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Saudi-Russia Oil War, Petrodollar and Gold Standard Rumors (1:24:46–1:28:53)

The ongoing oil price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia has led to a global glut and falling prices. The hosts discuss theories that the US and Russia may be working together to bankrupt Saudi Arabia and undermine the petrodollar. They also explore rumors that the CARES Act contains provisions that could eventually lead to the US returning to a gold standard, noting that China and Russia have been aggressively accumulating gold.

Keywords: [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [oil prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-prices.md), [petrodollar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/petrodollar.md), [gold standard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold-standard.md), [cares act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cares-act.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/27.md)

### 28. US Dollar Dominance, Safe Haven Status and Emerging Markets (1:28:52–1:31:51)

Despite the global economic crisis, the US dollar has strengthened significantly as investors seek a safe haven. International reports from Al Jazeera indicate that the dollar is "crushing" other currencies, including the British pound and the Russian ruble. The hosts suggest that the strength of the dollar allowed for the massive $2 trillion bailout without immediate inflationary consequences.

Keywords: [us dollar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/us-dollar.md), [reserve currency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reserve-currency.md), [emerging markets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emerging-markets.md), [russian ruble](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russian-ruble.md), mexican peso, argentine peso

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Jamil Ahmed, Dollar Supremacy and Infrastructure Rebuilding (1:31:52–1:36:30)

Currency strategist Jamil Ahmed explains that the US dollar remains the "king" of global finance, with no immediate threat from the Chinese Yuan or the Euro. The hosts discuss how a strong dollar makes imports cheaper, potentially allowing the US to rebuild its infrastructure at a lower cost, though it may eventually require a "magical turnaround" to weaken the dollar and boost exports.

Keywords: jamil ahmed, fxtm, [reserve currency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reserve-currency.md), [yuan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yuan.md), [euro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/euro.md), [imports](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imports.md), [exports](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exports.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Federal Reserve, Quantitative Easing and Global Thirst for Dollars (1:36:31–1:39:33)

The Federal Reserve's commitment to "quantitative easing infinity" has failed to dampen the global demand for US dollars. As emerging markets face a recipe for disaster due to the pandemic and recession, the "thirst for dollars" continues because the currency is fundamental to international loans, debt, and oil transactions. The hosts clarify the historical meaning of the term "greenback" while discussing current market liquidity.

Keywords: [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [quantitative easing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quantitative-easing.md), greenback, [liquidity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liquidity.md), global recession, [interest rates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/interest-rates.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/30.md)

### 31. BlackRock, Federal Reserve Nationalization and Trump's Influence (1:39:34–1:42:41)

A Bloomberg article suggests that President Trump has effectively nationalized parts of the Federal Reserve by involving BlackRock to manage assets on behalf of the Treasury. While some analysts believe this gives Trump unprecedented power over the markets, a former New York banker interviewed by the hosts suggests the current intervention is comparable to, or even smaller than, the 2008 financial crisis bailout.

Keywords: [blackrock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackrock.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [treasury department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasury-department.md), [dow jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dow-jones.md), 2008 bailout, [nationalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nationalization.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/31.md)

### 32. No Agenda Community, Album Art and Dvorak's Law (1:42:45–1:49:43)

The hosts promote the No Agenda community platforms, including the live stream and social network. They praise the episode 1228 album art by "Comicstripblogger," which depicted "Dvorak's Law" (the correlation between economic downturns and the attractiveness of sex workers). The discussion touches on the "postmodern" nature of the show's improvisational format and the value-for-value model.

Keywords: [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [no agenda stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-stream.md), [comicstripblogger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comicstripblogger.md), [dvorak's law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dvorak-s-law.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Executive Producer Donations and Birthday Wishes (1:49:44–1:57:32)

Adam Curry reads donations from high-level producers, including Sir Mittens of Falls City and Justin Fiola. They grant "Jobs Karma" and perform "de-douching" rituals for listeners. A special birthday wish is sent to John T. Shaddles from his wife, Dr. Ellie Shaddles, accompanied by a "share a secret" soundbite.

Keywords: sir mittens, justin fiola, john t shaddles, [jobs karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs-karma.md), [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md), [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Associate Executive Producers and Starship Exile (1:57:35–2:04:05)

Donations from Associate Executive Producers are acknowledged, including Stephanie Simons, who is currently on a crew ship near the Dominican Republic. Jesse Coy Nelson, an end-of-show mixer based in South Korea, promotes his new radio serial project, "Starship Exile." The hosts discuss the "value-for-value-for-value" concept where producers donate on behalf of others.

Keywords: stephanie simons, sir moser, [jesse coy nelson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jesse-coy-nelson.md), starship exile, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [busan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/busan.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Dame Sheila, Portugal Lockdown and San Francisco Homeless Hotels (2:04:06–2:08:34)

Dame Sheila provides a "boots on the ground" report from Lisbon, Portugal, contrasting its quiet but open atmosphere with the strict military-enforced lockdown in Spain. In San Francisco, the city is reportedly converting luxury hotels like the Hyatt into homeless shelters and instructing police not to respond to robberies under $2,500, leading to concerns about rising crime.

Keywords: [lisbon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisbon.md), [spain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spain.md), peter hitchens, [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [homeless shelters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeless-shelters.md), [hyatt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hyatt.md), [crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crime.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Airline Industry Crisis, 9/11 Comparison and Recovery Projections (2:08:34–2:13:43)

The airline industry is facing its worst crisis in history, with travel doubling every 15 years prior to the pandemic. Analysts on Al Jazeera compare the current situation to the five-year recovery period following 9/11 and the two-year recovery after the 2008 financial crisis. The hosts discuss the tiny profit margins of economy travel and the potential for airlines to go out of business without government intervention.

Keywords: [airline industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airline-industry.md), [al jazeera](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-jazeera.md), [9/11](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/9-11.md), [2008 financial crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2008-financial-crisis.md), [iata](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iata.md), [profit margins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/profit-margins.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/36.md)

### 37. High-Speed Rail, Airline Routes and The War on Cash (2:13:43–2:17:32)

The hosts discuss the failure of public high-speed rail projects in California and the emergence of private rail options. They also note that airlines are maintaining empty flights to avoid losing valuable airport slots. Meanwhile, the "war on cash" continues as tech companies like Square receive FDIC approval to operate as banks, further integrating digital finance.

Keywords: [high-speed rail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-speed-rail.md), airline slots, [square](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/square.md), [fdic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fdic.md), [banking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/banking.md), [cashless society](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cashless-society.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/37.md)

### 38. NFL Draft, Roger Goodell and Disciplinary Action (2:17:34–2:19:52)

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell issued a memo stating that the 2020 NFL Draft will proceed as scheduled in late April. Goodell warned that public discussion of issues relating to the draft's timing by team officials would be grounds for disciplinary action. The hosts criticize the league's "shut up slave" mentality and its insistence on normalcy during the pandemic.

Keywords: nfl draft, [roger goodell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roger-goodell.md), nfl management council, [public health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-health.md), disciplinary action

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Earth Hour, Climate Change and Marketing Failures (2:19:53–2:22:22)

The annual "Earth Hour" event is criticized as a missed marketing opportunity. The hosts argue that organizers failed to effectively link the stay-at-home lockdowns and the resulting reduction in pollution to their environmental message. They describe the promotion as a "total fail" that relied on outdated tactics like turning off building lights.

Keywords: [earth hour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/earth-hour.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), co2 reduction, [mother nature](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mother-nature.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md), [pollution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pollution.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Nicolas Maduro Indictment, Narco-Terrorism and DOJ Press Conference (2:22:22–2:27:22)

Attorney General William Barr announced the unsealing of indictments against Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro and other high-ranking officials for narco-terrorism and drug trafficking. The DOJ is offering a $15 million reward for information leading to Maduro's arrest. The hosts track the number of "sealed indictments" being opened and question the logic of an oil-rich regime dicking around with drug smuggling.

Keywords: [nicolas maduro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicolas-maduro.md), [william barr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/william-barr.md), [venezuela](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/venezuela.md), [narco-terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/narco-terrorism.md), [money laundering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/money-laundering.md), [sealed indictments](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sealed-indictments.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/40.md)

### 41. CIA Operations, Drug Trafficking and Venezuelan Oil (2:27:23–2:30:21)

The hosts speculate that the indictments against the Maduro regime are a CIA-led operation. They question why a country with the world's largest oil reserves would resort to drug trafficking, suggesting that the CIA prefers drug-related cases because they involve "stacks of cash and guns" rather than the "messy" business of ships and pipes associated with oil operations.

Keywords: [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [venezuela](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/venezuela.md), [oil supply](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-supply.md), [drug smuggling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drug-smuggling.md), [heroin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/heroin.md), [evidence room](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/evidence-room.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/41.md)

### 42. $10 Oil Projections, Saudi-Russia Tiff and California Gas Prices (2:30:22–2:34:55)

Economists predict that oil prices could drop to $10 a barrel as the global economy enters a recession. The price war began when Russia refused to cut production in response to falling Chinese demand, prompting Saudi Arabia to ramp up its own output to bankrupt competitors. Despite the global glut, gas prices in California remain high due to state legislature actions and taxes.

Keywords: [oil prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oil-prices.md), [shale oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shale-oil.md), [opec](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opec.md), [jakarta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jakarta.md), [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [gas tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gas-tax.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Joe Biden, Virtual Town Halls and Stroke Rumors (2:34:56–2:39:06)

Joe Biden has been campaigning from a home studio, appearing on virtual town halls and late-night shows. The hosts discuss rumors of Biden's declining health and mock his performance, including a clip where he mistakenly refers to the "Lujan virus." They note the technical difficulties and "lag" that make his virtual appearances awkward and ineffective.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [al jazeera](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-jazeera.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [jimmy kimmel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jimmy-kimmel.md), stroke rumors, lujan virus

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/43.md)

### 44. KXAN Investigation, Employee Paychecks and Relief Checks (2:39:07–2:41:20)

A report from Austin station KXAN alleges that an unnamed local company is asking employees to sign away their government relief checks in exchange for continued employment. The hosts express skepticism about the story, noting that the company was not identified and the report used a "voice changer" for the whistleblower, suggesting it may be a hoax or legally unenforceable.

Keywords: [kxan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kxan.md), jody barr, [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), relief checks, employee compensation, [hoax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hoax.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Producer Credits, Knighting Ceremony and Final Donations (2:41:21–2:48:42)

The final segment of producer credits includes donations from Mark Valentine, Brian Burgess, and Dame Zelda. Jeffrey Fields is knighted as "Sir Red Patch of the Texas Ring" for his $1,000 contribution. The hosts thank the "No Agenda Media Tribe" for their continued support during the lockdown and encourage listeners to stay calm.

Keywords: mark valentine, brian burgess, dame zelda, jeffrey fields, [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Brisket Lectures, Aaron Franklin and Social Distance Knighting (2:48:43–2:53:48)

John Dvorak discusses learning how to cook brisket by watching lectures from Austin's Aaron Franklin. The hosts conduct a "social distance knighting" for Jeffrey Fields, invoking the traditional "Hookers & Blow" and "Mutton and Mead" menu. They conclude the donation segment by directing listeners to the No Agenda Nation website for their rings.

Keywords: aaron franklin, [brisket](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brisket.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [knighting ceremony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting-ceremony.md), [no agenda nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-nation.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Bob Dylan, JFK Assassination Song and Declassification (2:53:49–2:57:13)

Bob Dylan released a 16-minute song about the JFK assassination titled "Murder Most Foul." The hosts discuss the timing of the release and the song's lyrics, which reference "Wolfman" (a rumored Secret Service code name for George H.W. Bush). They speculate whether this is a precursor to President Trump declassifying the remaining JFK files or documents related to 9/11 and "flying saucers."

Keywords: [bob dylan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-dylan.md), [jfk assassination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jfk-assassination.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [declassification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/declassification.md), wolfman jack, daddy bush

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Michael Levitt, Stanford Research and Media Panic (2:57:13–3:03:04)

Nobel Prize winner Michael Levitt and other Stanford researchers argue that the media is causing unnecessary panic with "utterly unreliable data." Based on projections from the Diamond Princess cruise ship, they suggest the COVID-19 fatality rate could be as low as 0.05%, lower than the seasonal flu. The hosts warn listeners not to be fooled by "spikes" in cases caused simply by increased testing.

Keywords: michael levitt, [stanford university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stanford-university.md), [nobel prize](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nobel-prize.md), [diamond princess](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diamond-princess.md), [mortality rate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mortality-rate.md), [amygdala](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amygdala.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Dr. Birx Scarf Knots, Outro and End of Show Mix (3:03:05–3:09:03)

The show concludes with a clip from NPR's "Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!" mocking Dr. Deborah Birx's scarves. Adam Curry and John Dvorak sign off, promising to return on Thursday. The episode ends with a "Pandemic Sandbox" mix by Sir Joho and Fletcher, featuring soundbites of President Trump discussing hydroxychloroquine and Joe Biden's verbal gaffes.

Keywords: [deborah birx](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deborah-birx.md), [paula poundstone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paula-poundstone.md), [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), sir joho, [fletcher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fletcher.md), [hydroxychloroquine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydroxychloroquine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1229-orange-tongue/chapter/49.md)

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