# Stunning

> Legislative maneuvers in Washington collide with global surveillance trends as the stimulus bill serves as a massive beta test for the future of the American economy.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1228
- **Published:** 2020-03-29
- **Length:** 3h 5m
- **Topics:** [CARES Act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cares-act.md), Digital Vaccines, [Tiger King](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiger-king.md), [Tara Reade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tara-reade.md), [Value-for-Value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), Wuhan Reopening
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning

## About this episode

The CARES Act and the $1,200 stimulus checks take center stage as Senator Bernie Sanders and Senator Lindsay Graham clash over unemployment benefits and work incentives. The 880-page relief bill introduces the Small Business Administration loan program while specifically barring members of the Trump administration and Congress from accessing the $500 billion corporate fund. Meanwhile, House Democrats face logistical hurdles as Nancy Pelosi navigates proxy voting and allegations of inserting Green New Deal elements into the emergency legislation.

Media alarmism reaches a fever pitch as MSNBC host Nicole Wallace repeatedly frames the pandemic as a stunning development, while infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm faces scrutiny for his reliance on the Imperial College model. Dr. Anthony Fauci expressed frustration in a WMAL interview regarding media attempts to create a rift between him and President Trump, even as Dr. Deborah Birx deals with misogynistic coverage of her attire in the Washington Post. Global tensions rise with the arrest of Harvard Professor Charles Lieber over Chinese espionage ties and the death of former FBI agent Robert Levinson in Iranian custody.

Technological shifts emerge as Dr. Oz advocates for South Korean-style digital tracking apps, which Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak characterize as a beta test for permanent surveillance and Universal Basic Income. The viral success of Tiger King on Netflix coincides with internet throttling across Europe, while Joe Biden struggles with teleprompter gaffes and faces sexual assault allegations from former staffer Tara Reade. The episode concludes with the knighthood of Sir Cole of Lower Locks View and a report on the total collapse of the live event industry.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/transcript.md.

### 1. No Agenda Episode 1228 Introduction and Economic Indicators (0:00–2:23)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1228 of the No Agenda show from Austin, Texas and Silicon Valley. They discuss the "Zephyr" train car count as a local economic indicator, noting a drop to seven cars. A satirical advertisement for a 1-900 number explains Dvorak's Law regarding the quality and price of sex workers during economic downturns.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [austin texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin-texas.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), zephyr train, [dvorak's law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dvorak-s-law.md), [economic indicators](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economic-indicators.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/1.md)

### 2. CARES Act Analysis and Bernie Sanders Senate Floor Speech (2:25–11:30)

The hosts analyze the 880-page CARES Act, focusing on the $1,200 stimulus checks and expanded unemployment benefits. They review a clip of Senator Bernie Sanders criticizing Republican colleagues, including Lindsay Graham, who argued that increased unemployment pay might disincentivize work. The discussion disputes Sanders' claims regarding historical tax breaks for the wealthy, citing anecdotal evidence from a CPA.

Keywords: [cares act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cares-act.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [lindsay graham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lindsay-graham.md), [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md), [unemployment benefits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/unemployment-benefits.md), [stimulus checks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stimulus-checks.md), [tax breaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-breaks.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Small Business Loans and Corporate Oversight in Stimulus Bill (11:32–14:55)

A detailed breakdown of the Small Business Administration (SBA) loan program explains how businesses can receive forgivable grants for three months of payroll. The hosts contrast this with the $500 billion corporate loan fund, noting specific provisions that prevent members of the Trump administration or Congress from benefiting. They criticize Nancy Pelosi's media appearances regarding oversight of these funds.

Keywords: [small business administration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/small-business-administration.md), sba loans, payroll protection, [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [jared kushner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jared-kushner.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [treasury department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasury-department.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Legislative Delay Tactics and House Voting Procedures (14:55–18:30)

The discussion covers the perceived delay tactics used by House Democrats, alleging that elements of the Green New Deal were inserted into early drafts of the relief bill. Following a 96-0 Senate vote, the hosts examine the logistical challenges of the House passing the bill, including the possibility of proxy voting or unanimous consent while members are away from Washington.

Keywords: [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [green new deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-new-deal.md), [house of representatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-of-representatives.md), proxy voting, [legislative process](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legislative-process.md), [senate vote](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate-vote.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Ventilator Shortages and Technical Operator Requirements (18:30–20:53)

The hosts argue that the media's focus on the raw number of ventilators ignores the critical shortage of trained respiratory technicians required to operate them. They question the projected need for 50,000 hospital beds in California by May. The segment critiques the push for automotive companies like General Motors and Ford to manufacture medical devices without addressing the personnel gap.

Keywords: [ventilators](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ventilators.md), respiratory technicians, [general motors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-motors.md), [ford](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ford.md), [hospital beds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hospital-beds.md), medical equipment, [labor market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-market.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Michael Osterholm Joe Rogan Interview and Pandemic Modeling (20:54–25:23)

The hosts revisit a March 10 interview between Joe Rogan and infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm. They criticize Osterholm's reliance on the Imperial College model, which predicted 48 million hospitalizations and 480,000 deaths in the United States. The discussion characterizes these projections as fear-mongering and compares the current COVID-19 death toll to seasonal influenza.

Keywords: [michael osterholm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-osterholm.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), imperial college model, pandemic modeling, [influenza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/influenza.md), [infection rates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/infection-rates.md), [fatalities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fatalities.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Computer Modeling Reliability and C-SPAN Expert Lecture (25:23–27:13)

A discussion on the inherent flaws of computer modeling references a past C-SPAN lecture by a modeling expert who warned against using such tools for social or environmental policy. The hosts argue that models used for both climate change and pandemic projections are frequently inaccurate and should not be used to drive public fear or policy decisions.

Keywords: [computer models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/computer-models.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [brookings institute](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brookings-institute.md), [global warming](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/global-warming.md), data extrapolation, predictive analytics

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Dr. Deborah Birx and Washington Post Fashion Profile (27:14–30:50)

The hosts highlight Dr. Deborah Birx's role as the White House COVID-19 response coordinator, noting her focus on therapeutics and future vaccine cycles. They criticize a Washington Post profile that focused on her attire and scarves rather than her medical expertise, labeling the coverage as misogynistic compared to the treatment of other politicians.

Keywords: [deborah birx](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deborah-birx.md), white house task force, [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [monoclonal antibodies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monoclonal-antibodies.md), fashion journalism

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Easter Reopening Goal and Media Briefing Bans (30:50–34:14)

The segment discusses President Trump's stated goal of reopening the country by Easter Sunday. The hosts note that after MSNBC and CNN stopped carrying live briefings, Trump held a virtual town hall on Fox News, which prompted the other networks to resume coverage. They also mention the extension of stay-at-home orders in Austin, Texas, until April 13.

Keywords: [easter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/easter.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), virtual town hall, [austin texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin-texas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Historical 80-Year Cycles and FEMA Director Gaffe (34:14–37:30)

A theory is presented regarding 80-year cycles in American history, linking the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, and World War II to the current crisis. The hosts play a clip of FEMA Director Pete Gaynor accidentally saying the government is taking steps to "attack" the health and safety of Americans before correcting himself to "protect."

Keywords: [80-year cycle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/80-year-cycle.md), [american revolution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-revolution.md), [civil war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-war.md), [world war ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-ii.md), [fema](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fema.md), [national guard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/national-guard.md), pete gaynor

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Trump Approval Ratings and South Korea Testing Comparisons (37:30–41:45)

The hosts discuss Andrea Mitchell's report on President Trump's "skyrocketing" approval ratings among independents and some Democrats. They critique a PBS NewsHour segment featuring Yamiche Alcindor, who compared U.S. testing numbers to South Korea's per capita rates, arguing the media is biased against acknowledging American progress in testing capacity.

Keywords: [andrea mitchell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrea-mitchell.md), [yamiche alcindor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yamiche-alcindor.md), [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [south korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-korea.md), [covid testing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-testing.md), [polling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/polling.md), [approval ratings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/approval-ratings.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Robert Levinson Death and Media Bias in Reporting (41:45–44:04)

The hosts examine the reporting on the death of former FBI agent Robert Levinson in Iranian custody. They contrast a straightforward news brief with a version from PBS that included a critical mention of President Trump's lack of knowledge about the death, using it as an example of unnecessary media politicization.

Keywords: robert levinson, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/intelligence.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Dr. Anthony Fauci Media Narrative and WMAL Interview (44:05–48:29)

The segment addresses the media's portrayal of Dr. Anthony Fauci as a "foil" to President Trump. The hosts play a clip from a WMAL interview where Fauci expresses frustration with the media's attempts to create distance between him and the President. They also discuss Fauci's professional ties to the Gates Foundation and Gilead Sciences.

Keywords: [anthony fauci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthony-fauci.md), [chris cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chris-cuomo.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), wmal, [bill gates foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-gates-foundation.md), [gilead sciences](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gilead-sciences.md), [vaccine development](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine-development.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Al Sharpton and Donald Trump Phone Call (48:29–49:56)

Reverend Al Sharpton reports on a phone call he received from President Trump to discuss the impact of the pandemic on vulnerable populations and the incarcerated. The hosts suggest that Sharpton's shift to a more conciliatory tone is a reaction to Trump's rising approval ratings in recent public polling.

Keywords: [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [criminal justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/criminal-justice.md), [pandemic response](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pandemic-response.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), political polling

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Wuhan Reopening and Chinese Espionage Indictments (49:56–54:35)

The hosts discuss the scheduled reopening of Wuhan on April 8 and the exclusion of asymptomatic cases from China's official counts. They also revisit the January arrest of Harvard Professor Charles Lieber and two Chinese nationals for their undisclosed ties to the Chinese government and the People's Liberation Army.

Keywords: [wuhan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan.md), [hubei province](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hubei-province.md), asymptomatic cases, [harvard university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harvard-university.md), [charles lieber](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charles-lieber.md), [people's liberation army](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/people-s-liberation-army.md), [espionage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Digital Vaccines and South Korean Surveillance Apps (50:32–57:05)

Dr. Oz appears in a clip advocating for the adoption of a South Korean-style digital tracking system in the United States. He describes a "digital vaccine" where a government-run app tracks movement and social distancing compliance. The hosts express concern over the potential for tech companies to implement permanent surveillance under the guise of public health.

Keywords: [dr. oz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dr-oz.md), [south korea](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-korea.md), [contact tracing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contact-tracing.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [geofencing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geofencing.md), digital vaccine, [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Social Distancing Terminology and Universal Basic Income Beta Test (57:05–1:01:54)

The hosts critique the term "social distancing" as psychologically harmful and discuss the stimulus bill as a "beta test" for Universal Basic Income (UBI) and Modern Monetary Theory (MMT). They predict that future health compliance will be managed through geofencing, Bluetooth alerts, and DNA-linked health certificates.

Keywords: [social distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md), [universal basic income](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/universal-basic-income.md), [ubi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ubi.md), [mmt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mmt.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [23andme](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/23andme.md), [bluetooth tracking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bluetooth-tracking.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/17.md)

### 18. V-Shaped Recovery and Environmental Impact Reports (1:01:55–1:06:11)

President Trump's prediction of a "V-shaped" economic recovery is discussed alongside reports from NASA and the European Space Agency showing a 25% drop in CO2 emissions in China. The hosts question the logic of reports claiming a massive drop in coal consumption while populations are confined to their homes using residential electricity.

Keywords: [v-shaped recovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/v-shaped-recovery.md), [carbon emissions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-emissions.md), [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), coal consumption, [wuhan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan.md), [air quality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-quality.md), economic bounce

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Remote Work Trends and Governor's Tracking Panel (1:06:12–1:09:19)

The discussion shifts to the permanence of remote work and the success of platforms like Slack and Zoom. One host mentions a contact who is participating in a confidential governor-led panel focused on developing social distancing tracking technology, currently in the "ideation stage."

Keywords: [slack](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slack.md), [zoom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zoom.md), cisco webex, [remote work](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/remote-work.md), [governors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/governors.md), [contact tracing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/contact-tracing.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Media Alarmism and the War Metaphor (1:09:20–1:13:37)

A supercut of MSNBC's Nicole Wallace repeatedly using the word "stunning" is used to illustrate media alarmism. The hosts discuss the framing of the pandemic as a "war against an invisible enemy," comparing the rhetoric to the mobilization efforts of World War II and the concept of protecting the "homeland."

Keywords: [nicole wallace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicole-wallace.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), war metaphor, [homeland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeland.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [media criticism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-criticism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Generational Risk and Celebrity Stay-at-Home PSAs (1:13:39–1:16:57)

The hosts discuss Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick's comments about seniors being willing to take risks for the economy. They also review PSAs from Robert De Niro and Danny DeVito, promoted by Governor Andrew Cuomo, and compare the social distancing enforcement at grocery stores like HEB, Whole Foods, and Costco.

Keywords: [dan patrick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-patrick.md), [robert de niro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-de-niro.md), [danny devito](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/danny-devito.md), [andrew cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-cuomo.md), [costco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/costco.md), [whole foods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whole-foods.md), [social distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Entertainment Industry Shifts and Netflix Economics (1:17:00–1:20:52)

The hosts predict a significant blowback against celebrities flaunting their lifestyles during lockdown. They analyze the shifting economics of the film industry, suggesting that the loss of theater concessions and the high bandwidth costs of streaming may hurt companies like Netflix despite increased viewership.

Keywords: [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), [disney plus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney-plus.md), [star wars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/star-wars.md), rise of skywalker, [john legend](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-legend.md), [chrissy teigen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chrissy-teigen.md), [movie theaters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/movie-theaters.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Tiger King Phenomenon and Internet Throttling (1:20:53–1:24:02)

The hosts discuss the viral success of the Netflix documentary series "Tiger King" as the definitive "Kung Flu" TV hit. They also note that YouTube and Netflix have begun throttling video quality in Europe and other regions to preserve bandwidth, sparking a brief discussion on the practicalities of net neutrality.

Keywords: [tiger king](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tiger-king.md), [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), [joe exotic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-exotic.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [bandwidth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bandwidth.md), streaming quality

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/23.md)

### 24. YouTube TV Review and Cloud PVR Features (1:24:03–1:27:29)

One host provides a review of YouTube TV, highlighting its unlimited cloud-based PVR (Personal Video Recorder) and high-resolution 1080p streams. The discussion touches on how the service replaces traditional cable or Sling TV for sports fans while raising concerns about Google's data tracking of viewing habits.

Keywords: [youtube tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube-tv.md), sling tv, pvr, [streaming services](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/streaming-services.md), [net neutrality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/net-neutrality.md), [resolution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/resolution.md), [sports broadcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sports-broadcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/24.md)

### 25. No Agenda Community and Artwork Standards (1:27:32–1:31:18)

The hosts check in with the "troll room" and discuss the growth of the No Agenda Social network. They review the episode artwork by Darren O'Neill and establish a new policy: they will veto any submitted artwork that features the common artistic rendering of the coronavirus or "ugly" imagery.

Keywords: [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [trolls](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trolls.md), [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md), [album art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/album-art.md), coronavirus imagery, [community standards](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/community-standards.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Executive Producer Credits and Stimulus Donations (1:31:19–1:37:29)

The hosts read notes from top donors, including Derek Winkie, who donated a portion of his anticipated stimulus check. They discuss the impact of lockdowns on the high school class of 2020 and process a knighthood request for Cole Candler, who called out a former colleague in his note.

Keywords: jason howard, derek winkie, cole candler, [stimulus checks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stimulus-checks.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [graduation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/graduation.md), [small business](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/small-business.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Live Event Industry Crisis and White House Audio (1:37:29–1:41:54)

A donor from the AV industry describes the total collapse of live events through August and asks for crowdsourced income ideas. He provides an insider perspective on why political campaign audio is often poor compared to the President's, which is handled by a dedicated Army Signal Corps team with standardized equipment.

Keywords: live events, audio visual, gigrent, [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), white house communications, army signal corps

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Ham Radio Community and Barbecue Competitions (1:41:56–1:47:05)

The hosts process donations from the ham radio community, noting that amateur radio operators view the current crisis as the scenario they have trained for. They also discuss the cancellation of barbecue and steak competitions, leading to a conversation about Texas-style brisket and hoarding of supplies.

Keywords: fred regge, [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), [amateur radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amateur-radio.md), [reddit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reddit.md), [barbecue](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barbecue.md), [brisket](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brisket.md), northeast texas

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Internet Shutdown Fears and Costco Return Policies (1:47:05–1:49:32)

The hosts speculate on the social unrest that would occur if the internet were shut down. They discuss the ongoing toilet paper shortage and Costco's new policy refusing returns on paper products to discourage hoarders from seeking refunds after the panic subsides.

Keywords: [internet outage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-outage.md), [charmin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charmin.md), [toilet paper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toilet-paper.md), [costco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/costco.md), [hoarding](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hoarding.md), [supply chain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supply-chain.md), returns

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/29.md)

### 30. International Producer Notes and Value-for-Value (1:49:33–1:53:11)

A Dutch producer provides a report on the "hiring freeze" in the lowlands. The hosts discuss the "Value-for-Value" funding model and credit the No Agenda Social community for acting as a "click farm" to boost the visibility of the show's animated videos on YouTube.

Keywords: remy koeter, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), click farm, [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), [animated no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/animated-no-agenda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Global Pandemic Response and Operation Resilience (1:53:12–1:56:31)

The hosts begin a "world tour" of pandemic news, starting with French President Emmanuel Macron's "Operation Resilience" to support hospitals. They discuss the broader European challenge of distributing aid and the global trend toward using the crisis to implement universal basic income.

Keywords: [emmanuel macron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emmanuel-macron.md), [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), operation resilience, [united nations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-nations.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [universal basic income](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/universal-basic-income.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Spain Death Toll and China Lockdown Easing (1:56:31–1:59:00)

Reports from Spain highlight the use of an ice rink as a temporary morgue as the death toll surpassed China's official numbers. Meanwhile, in China's Hubei province, travel restrictions are being eased for families to reunite, though Wuhan remains under strict control for two more weeks.

Keywords: [spain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spain.md), [madrid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/madrid.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [hubei province](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hubei-province.md), [wuhan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan.md), ice rink morgue, [travel restrictions](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travel-restrictions.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Prince Charles Diagnosis and UK Lockdown Rules (1:59:01–2:03:06)

The hosts discuss Prince Charles testing positive for COVID-19 and review Prime Minister Boris Johnson's address to the UK. Johnson's strict new rules include banning meetings with friends or family, closing non-essential shops, and empowering police to issue fines for gatherings of more than two people.

Keywords: [prince charles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prince-charles.md), [boris johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boris-johnson.md), [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [scotland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/scotland.md), [police enforcement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-enforcement.md), [funerals](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/funerals.md), social gatherings

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/33.md)

### 34. India Lockdown and African Pandemic Readiness (2:03:06–2:07:01)

India enters a strict lockdown with concerns over hospital bed capacity. In Africa, Nigerian officials are self-isolating, and billionaire Jack Ma donates supplies to 54 countries. South Africa prepares for a 21-day lockdown, with health officials worried about the high prevalence of HIV and tuberculosis in the population.

Keywords: [narendra modi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/narendra-modi.md), [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [nigeria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigeria.md), [south africa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-africa.md), [zimbabwe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zimbabwe.md), [jack ma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jack-ma.md), [hiv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hiv.md), [tuberculosis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tuberculosis.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Manu Dibango Death and Congo State of Emergency (2:07:02–2:09:46)

The death of Afro-jazz star Manu Dibango in Cameroon is noted. The Democratic Republic of Congo declares a state of emergency, closing borders and cutting off the capital, Kinshasa, as the country reportedly has only 50 respirators to serve its entire population.

Keywords: manu dibango, [cameroon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cameroon.md), [democratic republic of congo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-republic-of-congo.md), [kinshasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kinshasa.md), respirators, global reset

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Global Financial Reset and Oil Price War (2:09:48–2:13:37)

The hosts discuss the possibility of a coordinated global financial reset, noting the 0% bank reserve requirements and the 1934 Gold Reserve Act. They analyze the impact of the oil price war between Saudi Arabia and Russia, which has driven crude prices down to $22 and significantly affected the stock market.

Keywords: gold reserve act, [gold standard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold-standard.md), [crude oil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crude-oil.md), [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [mbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mbs.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Chloroquine Controversy and Media Skepticism (2:13:38–2:17:25)

The discussion focuses on the use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine as potential treatments. The hosts criticize the media for highlighting a death in Arizona involving fish tank cleaner to discredit the drug, while ignoring its use in New York and other clinical settings.

Keywords: [chloroquine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chloroquine.md), [hydroxychloroquine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydroxychloroquine.md), z-pack, [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [arizona](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arizona.md), fish tank cleaner

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Daniel Dae Kim Treatment and Hydroxychloroquine Success (2:17:27–2:20:00)

Actor Daniel Dae Kim shares his recovery story on Instagram, detailing a drug cocktail that included hydroxychloroquine, Tamiflu, and a Z-pack. The hosts question why mainstream media outlets have not interviewed Kim or other high-profile individuals who have reported success with the treatment protocol.

Keywords: [daniel dae kim](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daniel-dae-kim.md), [lost](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lost.md), [hawaii five-0](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hawaii-five-0.md), [tamiflu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tamiflu.md), [azithromycin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/azithromycin.md), [hydroxychloroquine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydroxychloroquine.md), [instagram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/instagram.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Vaping Risks and Surgeon General Warnings (2:20:01–2:23:20)

Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Surgeon General Jerome Adams suggest that vaping may be a factor in why younger Americans are experiencing severe COVID-19 symptoms. The hosts argue this is a targeted attack on the vaping industry funded by Michael Bloomberg, noting the lack of similar warnings regarding traditional tobacco.

Keywords: [vaping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaping.md), gertchen whitmer, [jerome adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerome-adams.md), [surgeon general](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surgeon-general.md), [tobacco industry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tobacco-industry.md), [bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloomberg.md), lung health

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/39.md)

### 40. FBI Sting Operation in Belton Missouri (2:23:20–2:28:27)

FBI agents killed Timothy Wilson during an attempted arrest in Belton, Missouri, alleging he planned to bomb a hospital. The hosts characterize the event as a "six-week cycle" sting operation, questioning the timing of the intervention and the narrative that the suspect was an imminent threat.

Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), timothy wilson, belton missouri, [domestic terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domestic-terrorism.md), hospital bomb, [dick wolf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dick-wolf.md), [six-week cycle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/six-week-cycle.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Joe Biden Gaffes and Teleprompter Issues (2:28:28–2:30:47)

The hosts review several recent clips of Joe Biden struggling with teleprompter cues and making confusing statements about the "cure being worse than the problem." They mock his inability to complete the phrase "we hold these truths to be self-evident" during a broadcast about American leadership.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [teleprompter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/teleprompter.md), [gaffes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gaffes.md), [world war ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-ii.md), [american values](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/american-values.md), [campaign trail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campaign-trail.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Tara Reade Sexual Assault Allegations Against Biden (2:30:48–2:35:27)

The hosts play a detailed account from Tara Reade, a former Senate staffer who alleges Joe Biden sexually assaulted her in 1993. They discuss the specific details of her claim and criticize the mainstream media for its relative silence on the allegation compared to past accusations against Republican figures.

Keywords: [tara reade](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tara-reade.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [sexual assault](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-assault.md), senate staffer, [1993](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/1993.md), [me too movement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/me-too-movement.md), media silence

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Donor Thank Yous and Birthday Shoutouts (2:35:28–2:44:16)

A long list of donors is acknowledged, including those from Germany, Montana, and North Carolina. The hosts discuss the "click farm" efforts on No Agenda Social and read various personal notes, birthday wishes, and "de-douching" requests from the listener base.

Keywords: adrian dunzkus, leroy pacheco, debbie holmes, carissa mullen, joe weiss, [no agenda social](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-social.md), click farm

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Knighthood Ceremony for Sir Cole of Lower Locks View (2:44:17–2:48:42)

Cole Candler is officially knighted as "Sir Cole of Lower Locks View" following his $1,000 in total contributions. The hosts explain the process for receiving No Agenda rings and discuss the various "peerage" titles available to high-level producers in the value-for-value system.

Keywords: cole candler, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [no agenda roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-roundtable.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [rings](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rings.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Virtual Meetups and International News Briefs (2:48:42–2:53:12)

The hosts review reports from recent meetups in Oklahoma City and announce upcoming virtual meetups in Kansas City and Rochester due to lockdown orders. They also provide brief updates on the conflict in Yemen, Boko Haram attacks in Chad, and a federal judge's ruling on the Dakota Access Pipeline.

Keywords: [oklahoma city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma-city.md), [kansas city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kansas-city.md), [rochester](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rochester.md), virtual meetups, [yemen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yemen.md), [boko haram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boko-haram.md), [dakota access pipeline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dakota-access-pipeline.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Episode Outro and Final Sound Mixes (2:53:14–3:05:16)

The show concludes with a discussion on the "21 million fewer cell phones" rumor in China and a series of sound bites regarding the situation in New York City. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off, reminding listeners of the Sunday show and playing a final produced audio mix.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [wuhan virus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan-virus.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md), [social distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md), [end of show mix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/end-of-show-mix.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1228-stunning/chapter/46.md)

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