# CAPS

> A disorganized presidential address and the suspension of the NBA season signal a new economic reality as pandemic simulations from Johns Hopkins move into the mainstream.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1224
- **Published:** 2020-03-15
- **Length:** 3h 16m
- **Topics:** [Event 201](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/event-201.md), FISA renewal, L-shaped recovery, [Joe Biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [Geo-fencing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geo-fencing.md), Chet Hanks, NBA suspension
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps

## About this episode

Donald Trump receives a failing grade for his Oval Office address as confusion over European Union trade restrictions and cargo bans triggers global market volatility. The President’s disorganized performance, marked by hot mic gaffes and script errors, coincides with the NBA suspending its season following Rudy Gobert’s positive test. These events signal a shift toward the L-shaped economic recovery model as the reality of a national lockdown begins to mirror the restrictive measures currently seen in Florence, Italy.

Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security director Dr. Tom Inglesby emerges as a primary media voice, linking current containment strategies to the Event 201 pandemic simulation funded by the Gates Foundation. While Andrew Yang joins CNN to advocate for technocratic governance under a potential Joe Biden administration, the DNC faces scrutiny over Super Tuesday voting irregularities in Michigan and Missouri. Meanwhile, Representative Ken Buck introduces an amendment to rename the FISA renewal bill the Federal Initiative To Spy On Americans Act, highlighting ongoing concerns regarding geo-fencing warrants and Google GPS data privacy.

Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte provides a moment of levity by immediately breaking his own handshaking ban, while Prince Harry falls victim to Russian pranksters posing as Greta Thunberg. The value-for-value community welcomes new peers including Sir Roland Ref and the Baron of Data, as Governor Andrew Cuomo launches a state-branded hand sanitizer produced by New York prison labor. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the media's obsession with celebrity self-quarantines from Tom Hanks to LeBron James.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/transcript.md.

### 1. Economic Recovery Models, V-Shaped versus L-Shaped Trends (0:00–2:02)

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program discussing the current state of the financial markets and the potential shape of the economic recovery. They contrast the traditional V-shaped recovery with a newly proposed L-shaped model while touching on the impact of market volatility on retirement accounts like 401ks and IRAs.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [v-shaped recovery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/v-shaped-recovery.md), l-shaped recovery, [401k](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/401k.md), markets

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Donald Trump, Oval Office Address Performance Grade (2:03–6:54)

Donald Trump receives a "D minus" grade for his televised address regarding the COVID-19 pandemic. The critique focuses on his disorganized demeanor, poor scriptwriting that caused confusion over European Union trade and cargo restrictions, and the unprofessional nature of the live broadcast including hot mic moments.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [oval office](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oval-office.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [travel ban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travel-ban.md), [media criticism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-criticism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Don Lemon, CNN Interview with California Officials (6:54–9:25)

CNN host Don Lemon attempts to elicit criticism of the federal government from California Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis. Kounalakis and Governor Gavin Newsom instead emphasize productive collaboration with the Trump administration and Vice President Mike Pence regarding the repatriation of cruise ship passengers.

Keywords: [don lemon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/don-lemon.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [gavin newsom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gavin-newsom.md), eleni kounalakis, [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/3.md)

### 4. John Kasich, CNN Confrontation Over Trump Address (9:26–11:58)

John Kasich defends the tone of the President's address during a heated exchange with Don Lemon on CNN. While Lemon pushes for a condemnation of the administration's inaccuracies, Kasich argues that the serious tone was necessary and that minor clarifications in speeches are not unusual.

Keywords: [john kasich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kasich.md), [don lemon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/don-lemon.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), presidential address, [republican](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/republican.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Andrew Yang, CNN Contributor on Technocratic Governance (11:58–13:40)

Andrew Yang joins CNN as a contributor, arguing that the global pandemic highlights the need for functional, technocratic government. He suggests that a Joe Biden presidency would restore competence by bringing back experienced officials from the Obama administration.

Keywords: [andrew yang](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-yang.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [technocracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technocracy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/5.md)

### 6. COVID-19 Testing Realities, Flattening the Curve Strategy (13:42–16:37)

The reality of COVID-19 testing is examined, noting that kits are not as easily accessible as consumer DNA tests and involve an invasive swabbing process. The discussion shifts to the public strategy of "flattening the curve" through a two-week period of reduced social activity and working from home.

Keywords: [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), test kits, [flattening the curve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flattening-the-curve.md), [social distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md), [quarantine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quarantine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Event 201, Pandemic Simulation by Johns Hopkins (16:38–23:20)

Event 201, a pandemic simulation held in October 2019 by the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, is analyzed as a potential "playbook" for the current crisis. The event was funded by Dustin Moskovitz’s Open Philanthropy and the Gates Foundation, featuring fictional scenarios that closely mirror the subsequent coronavirus outbreak.

Keywords: [event 201](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/event-201.md), [johns hopkins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/johns-hopkins.md), dustin moskovitz, open philanthropy, pandemic simulation

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Seasonal Weather Effects, Coronavirus Spread Projections (23:21–25:58)

A debate ensues regarding whether warmer weather will slow the spread of the coronavirus. While some reports suggest a seasonal decline, others argue the virus is not weather-dependent, leading to a prediction that the crisis might peak or shift by early April.

Keywords: [seasonal flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seasonal-flu.md), weather dependency, [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), projections, [april 6](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/april-6.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Celebrity Self-Quarantines, Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson (26:00–28:28)

Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson announce they have tested positive for coronavirus while in Australia. This is viewed as the start of a trend where high-profile celebrities use social media to document their self-quarantines, potentially influencing public perception of the virus's severity.

Keywords: [tom hanks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-hanks.md), [rita wilson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rita-wilson.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [celebrities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celebrities.md), self-quarantine

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Event 201 Economic Projections, Global Governance Agenda (28:28–32:18)

The simulation results from Event 201 are reviewed, specifically the fictional "GNN" news clips predicting 30 million cases and massive financial market turmoil. The underlying message of the exercise is identified as a call for increased globalization and cooperation between international corporations and governments.

Keywords: [event 201](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/event-201.md), gnn, [globalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/globalization.md), economic fallout, [world economic forum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-economic-forum.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Chet Hanks, Number 33 Symbolism in Media (32:19–33:52)

Chet Hanks, son of Tom Hanks, releases a 33-second Instagram video discussing his parents' health. The segment explores the recurring appearance of the number 33 in coronavirus reporting and its potential significance as a coded message or occult symbol.

Keywords: chet hanks, [symbolism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/symbolism.md), [illuminati](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/illuminati.md), [number 33](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/number-33.md), [instagram](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/instagram.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Traditional Public Health Measures, Pandemic Containment Limits (33:52–35:39)

The conclusion of the Event 201 simulation emphasizes that traditional public health measures like isolation and social distancing may be insufficient during a fast-moving pandemic. The exercise stresses the need for pre-established private-public partnerships to manage cascading societal consequences.

Keywords: [who](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/who.md), [social distancing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-distancing.md), disease surveillance, [pandemic planning](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pandemic-planning.md), [containment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/containment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Dr. Tom Inglesby, Johns Hopkins Media Presence (35:40–40:47)

Dr. Tom Inglesby, Director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, is identified as a central figure appearing across mainstream media outlets like CBS and 60 Minutes. His long-term advocacy for pandemic preparedness is linked to the funding and execution of Event 201.

Keywords: tom inglesby, [johns hopkins](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/johns-hopkins.md), [60 minutes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/60-minutes.md), pandemic expert, [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Pandemic Predictability, Historical Government Testing Claims (40:48–42:19)

The predictability of pandemics during election years is discussed, with a skeptical look at whether the current situation is a "dry run" or a live exercise. Historical references are made to the medical establishment and government agencies conducting chemical or biological tests on unsuspecting populations in the San Francisco Bay Area.

Keywords: [bear market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bear-market.md), biological testing, [bay area](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bay-area.md), medical establishment, [pandemic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pandemic.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Italy Lockdown Realities, 5G and Bioweapon Theories (42:21–46:23)

Reports from Florence, Italy, describe the reality of the national lockdown, which includes self-declaration forms for travel and grocery store restrictions. Various conspiracy theories circulating in Italy are mentioned, including the virus being a Chinese bioweapon or a reaction to 5G radiation testing.

Keywords: [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [florence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florence.md), [5g](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/5g.md), [bioweapon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bioweapon.md), [belt and road initiative](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/belt-and-road-initiative.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Mainstream Media Victim Interviews, Mild Symptom Reports (46:23–50:54)

A lack of "horror stories" in mainstream media interviews with COVID-19 victims is noted. Patients from the Diamond Princess cruise ship and other locations describe mild symptoms, such as a temporary fever and a dry cough, often feeling healthy despite testing positive.

Keywords: [diamond princess](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diamond-princess.md), yokohama, [nbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-news.md), [symptoms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/symptoms.md), [fever](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fever.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Testing Scarcity, Global Disease Mortality Comparison (50:55–53:58)

The difficulty of obtaining a coronavirus test is discussed alongside a comparison of daily global death rates from various diseases. Data from The Lancet shows that tuberculosis, Hepatitis B, and malaria cause significantly more daily deaths than COVID-19, which was clocking in at 56 deaths per day at the time of the report.

Keywords: [tuberculosis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tuberculosis.md), [hepatitis b](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hepatitis-b.md), [malaria](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/malaria.md), [mortality rates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mortality-rates.md), [the lancet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-lancet.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/17.md)

### 18. FISA Act Renewal, Payroll Tax Holiday Debate (53:59–57:40)

Representative Ken Buck of Colorado introduces an amendment to rename the FISA renewal bill to "The Federal Initiative To Spy On Americans Act." Meanwhile, House Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi reject President Trump's proposal for a payroll tax holiday, focusing instead on sick leave and food stamp extensions.

Keywords: [fisa act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fisa-act.md), [ken buck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ken-buck.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [payroll tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/payroll-tax.md), [house democrats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-democrats.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Nancy Pelosi, Armageddon Rhetoric and Podcast Tangent (57:41–59:19)

Nancy Pelosi’s description of the pandemic as "Armageddon" is mocked. This leads to a brief tangent about a woman starting a podcast as a "dream come true" amidst the global crisis, contrasting the dire political rhetoric with mundane personal ambitions.

Keywords: [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [armageddon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/armageddon.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [ham radio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ham-radio.md), [isolation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isolation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/19.md)

### 20. NBA Season Suspension, Rudy Gobert Positive Test (59:19–1:01:06)

The NBA officially suspends its season after Utah Jazz player Rudy Gobert tests positive for coronavirus. The decision followed a chaotic scene shortly before a game against the Oklahoma City Thunder, marking a major turning point in the domestic response to the virus.

Keywords: [nba](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nba.md), rudy gobert, utah jazz, oklahoma city thunder, sports suspension

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/20.md)

### 21. LeBron James, Empty Arena Policy Reversal (1:01:07–1:02:30)

LeBron James initially states he will not play in games without fans present in the arena. However, he quickly softens his stance the following day, acknowledging that he must follow the league's mandates for the safety of players and the franchise.

Keywords: [lebron james](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lebron-james.md), [nba](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nba.md), [lakers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lakers.md), fan attendance, safety mandates

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Mark Rutte, Handshaking Ban Gaffe in Netherlands (1:02:30–1:04:45)

Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte holds a press conference to announce a ban on handshaking to prevent virus transmission, only to immediately shake a colleague's hand after the announcement. The segment explores the history of handshaking and suggests adopting bowing as a more hygienic alternative.

Keywords: [mark rutte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-rutte.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), handshaking, [social etiquette](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-etiquette.md), bowing

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/22.md)

### 23. United Airlines In-Flight Panic, Allergy Misunderstanding (1:04:48–1:06:26)

A United Airlines flight is diverted to Denver after passengers became unruly over a fellow traveler who was coughing and sneezing. Authorities determined the passenger was merely suffering from allergies, leading to the removal of three individuals who attempted to incite a "riot" on the plane.

Keywords: [united airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-airlines.md), [denver international airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denver-international-airport.md), [allergies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/allergies.md), [air travel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-travel.md), [panic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/panic.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Robinhood App Outages, Millennial Trading Losses (1:06:27–1:08:40)

The trading app Robinhood experiences multiple major outages during historic market volatility, preventing users from executing trades. The company faces a class action lawsuit for negligence as millennial traders were stuck in positions they could not exit during a thousand-point Dow drop.

Keywords: [robinhood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robinhood.md), [stock market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stock-market.md), outages, [millennials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/millennials.md), class action lawsuit

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Hand Sanitizer Prank, Public Reaction Gag (1:09:35–1:11:12)

A suggestion is made for a public prank involving a cleaned-out hand sanitizer bottle filled with water and blue food coloring. The gag involves spraying the "sanitizer" on food and into one's mouth in a crowded restaurant to observe the reactions of panicked onlookers.

Keywords: [hand sanitizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hand-sanitizer.md), [prank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prank.md), [mcdonalds](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mcdonalds.md), [social experiment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-experiment.md), [humor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/humor.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Andrew Cuomo, New York State Clean Hand Sanitizer (1:11:13–1:13:58)

Governor Andrew Cuomo introduces "New York State Clean," a state-branded hand sanitizer with 75% alcohol content. The product is manufactured by Corecraft using state prison labor and is intended for distribution to government agencies, schools, and the MTA.

Keywords: [andrew cuomo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/andrew-cuomo.md), [new york](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york.md), [hand sanitizer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hand-sanitizer.md), [prison labor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prison-labor.md), corecraft

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Vaping Propylene Glycol, Potential Antiviral Properties (1:13:59–1:15:34)

The discussion touches on the potential for vaporized propylene glycol, a common ingredient in vape juice, to act as a disinfectant for the lungs. While historically linked to slowing the spread of influenza, its effectiveness against the coronavirus remains unproven.

Keywords: [vaping](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaping.md), [propylene glycol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propylene-glycol.md), [influenza](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/influenza.md), [antiviral](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antiviral.md), health claims

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/27.md)

### 28. CBS News and CNBC, Remote Broadcasting Shifts (1:15:34–1:18:44)

Major news networks including CBS and CNBC shift to remote broadcasting and alternate locations after employees test positive for COVID-19. The CBS Broadcast Center in New York is closed for deep cleaning, while CNBC anchors broadcast from global headquarters and other sites.

Keywords: [cbs news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs-news.md), [cnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnbc.md), [remote broadcast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/remote-broadcast.md), self-quarantine, [sanitation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanitation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Silicon Valley Traffic, Spying on Americans Act (1:18:46–1:21:53)

The shift to remote work in Silicon Valley has significantly reduced traffic and increased parking availability in the Bay Area. The conversation returns to Representative Ken Buck’s attempt to highlight government surveillance by renaming the FISA bill the "Federal Initiative To Spy On Americans Act."

Keywords: [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [work from home](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/work-from-home.md), [ken buck](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ken-buck.md), [fisa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fisa.md), [civil liberties](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-liberties.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/29.md)

### 30. No Agenda Stream, Darren O'Neill Art Contribution (1:21:53–1:24:53)

The hosts acknowledge the No Agenda stream and the creative contributions of producer Darren O'Neill. O'Neill is praised for his professional broadcasting style and his "Ogamacare" artwork, which features No Agenda branded toilet paper.

Keywords: [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md), [no agenda stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-stream.md), ogamacare, [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [artwork](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artwork.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Knighting Ceremony, Dame Sparkle and J.T. Barrington (1:24:53–1:27:24)

J.T. Barrington, the Knight of the Black Telecaster, donates to secure a Damehood for his wife, Dame Sparkle, for her birthday. He recounts his history with the show since 2009 and his experience attending a No Agenda meetup in Berkeley.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [damehood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/damehood.md), j.t. barrington, [berkeley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berkeley.md), [meetup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetup.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Peerage Requests, Sir Code Monkey and Jobs Karma (1:27:25–1:30:00)

Jason Zeisler, known as Sir Code Monkey, requests the title "Baron of Data" and asks for "Jobs Karma" as he seeks new work as a database developer. He also mentions his appreciation for the host's recent appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience.

Keywords: sir code monkey, [data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/data.md), [jobs karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jobs-karma.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), database developer

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Charlotte Meetup, Double De-Douching and Job Search (1:30:01–1:32:41)

Benjamin Whitbrod requests a double de-douching for himself and his brother Matt ahead of a Charlotte meetup. He praises the No Agenda community for fostering productive dialogue between people with differing viewpoints and requests job karma for his brother's post-doc transition.

Keywords: [charlotte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlotte.md), [north carolina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/north-carolina.md), [meetup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetup.md), [de-douching](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/de-douching.md), [m5m](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/m5m.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Mike Keeler, Baronetcy and Human Resources Karma (1:32:42–1:34:43)

Mike Keeler from Las Vegas achieves the rank of Baronet through his donations. He requests "Don't Eat Me Joe Biden" jingles and karma for his two human resources classes in college, while another donor, Dianne, makes a "reparations" donation for Lent.

Keywords: [mike keeler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-keeler.md), [baronet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baronet.md), [las vegas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/las-vegas.md), [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [human resources](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-resources.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/34.md)

### 35. UnchartedX, Ancient Egypt and Precision Engineering (1:34:45–1:37:29)

Shirelle Patterson donates on behalf of her husband Ben Van Kerkwijk, who runs the project UnchartedX. The project focuses on long-format documentaries exploring precision engineering in ancient Egypt and the Younger Dryas impact theory, utilizing the value-for-value model.

Keywords: unchartedx, ben van kerkwijk, ancient egypt, [archaeology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/archaeology.md), younger dryas

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Sir Furry Furry Freedom Fighter, Oregon Green Zone (1:37:30–1:41:27)

Michael Robinson is knighted as "Sir Furry Furry Freedom Fighter of the Oregon Green Zone." He requests job karma for his wife Michelle, who is graduating from dental hygiene school, and "Corona Karma" for his sisters traveling in Ireland.

Keywords: [oregon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oregon.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [dental hygiene](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dental-hygiene.md), [ireland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ireland.md), [corona karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corona-karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Relationship Karma, Dame Nancy and Brian Ellis (1:41:29–1:45:08)

Various producers request karma for relationships and travel, including a donor with a girlfriend in Russia. Brian Ellis sends a card comparing the hosts to classical philosophers like Plato and Locke, while requesting specific jingles and relationship karma.

Keywords: [relationship karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/relationship-karma.md), [travel karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/travel-karma.md), [plato](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/plato.md), rousseau, [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Producer Credits, Super Agent Matthew Lesher (1:45:08–1:49:41)

The value of No Agenda producer credits on resumes and IMDB is discussed. Adam Curry shares that his long-time agent, Matthew Lesher, contacted him following his Joe Rogan appearance to discuss the "Animated No Agenda" shorts, signaling potential new opportunities.

Keywords: [matthew lesher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/matthew-lesher.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [imdb](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/imdb.md), [producer credits](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/producer-credits.md), [animated no agenda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/animated-no-agenda.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/38.md)

### 39. EU Flight Ban, Guy Verhofstadt and Federalism (1:49:41–1:53:22)

The technical reasons for the US flight ban on the Schengen area are explored, citing the inability of old airline COBOL systems to track multi-leg journeys. Meanwhile, EU politician Guy Verhofstadt uses Brexit as a justification to call for a "real union" without veto rights or opt-outs.

Keywords: [guy verhofstadt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/guy-verhofstadt.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [schengen area](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/schengen-area.md), [federalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Dutch Nexit Sentiment, UK Digital Services Tax (1:53:23–1:56:38)

Polls in the Netherlands show 71% support for exiting the EU, though the hosts remain skeptical of its likelihood. In the UK, a new 2% digital services tax on American tech giants is set to go into effect on April 1st, 2020.

Keywords: nexit, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [digital services tax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/digital-services-tax.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [uk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uk.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Joe Biden, Hitler versus Hillary Audio Illusion (1:56:39–2:00:16)

A viral clip of Joe Biden is analyzed where he appears to say "Hitler's race" instead of "Hillary's race." The hosts discuss the "two movies, one screen" effect of the audio, where listeners hear different names based on their expectations, while noting the underlying claim of sexism in the 2016 election.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), audio illusion, [sexism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexism.md), [campaign trail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campaign-trail.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Joe Biden, Gun Control Confrontation and Shushing (2:00:17–2:07:15)

Joe Biden engages in a heated confrontation with a Michigan union worker over the Second Amendment, telling the man he is "full of shit." The exchange, which included Biden shushing a female staffer and misidentifying rifles as "AR-14s," is criticized for its aggressive tone.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [second amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/second-amendment.md), ar-14, shushing, union workers

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/42.md)

### 43. Super Tuesday, Voting Irregularities and DNC Tactics (2:07:16–2:09:49)

Reports of voting irregularities during Super Tuesday are examined, including long lines in Michigan and electronic poll book failures in Missouri. The discussion suggests these issues may be part of a broader effort by the DNC to disadvantage Bernie Sanders' campaign.

Keywords: [super tuesday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/super-tuesday.md), voting irregularities, [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), poll books

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Michael Moore, Trump Malaise and DNC Deals (2:09:50–2:11:32)

Michael Moore attributes Bernie Sanders' struggles to a "malaise" caused by Donald Trump, arguing that voters are too demoralized to seek systemic change. Speculation arises regarding deals made by the DNC to offer cabinet positions to former candidates like Buttigieg and Klobuchar in exchange for endorsing Biden.

Keywords: [michael moore](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-moore.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), [michigan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michigan.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/44.md)

### 45. Vice Presidential Metrics, Identity Politics in Selection (2:11:33–2:14:33)

The criteria for Joe Biden’s vice-presidential pick are discussed, focusing on the media's emphasis on "not white" and "not male" candidates. Kamala Harris and Stacey Abrams are highlighted as top contenders who meet specific racial and gender diversity metrics favored by the party.

Keywords: [kamala harris](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kamala-harris.md), [stacey abrams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stacey-abrams.md), [tulsi gabbard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tulsi-gabbard.md), [identity politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/identity-politics.md), [vice president](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vice-president.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/45.md)

### 46. Vermin Supreme, Sexism and Likability Standards (2:14:34–2:17:23)

Vermin Supreme is noted as a satirical alternative in the presidential race. This leads to a critique of a PBS segment regarding the "burden" of likability and grooming standards for female candidates, which the hosts argue are equally applicable to men in the public eye.

Keywords: [vermin supreme](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vermin-supreme.md), [elizabeth warren](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elizabeth-warren.md), [sexism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexism.md), likability, [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/46.md)

### 47. Hillary Clinton, Hulu Documentary and Political Timing (2:17:23–2:20:26)

The new Hillary Clinton documentary on Hulu is analyzed, with a focus on her transition from a young advocate to a hardened political figure. The timing of the release is viewed as a potential setup for a future political move, while her comments on male grooming are dismissed as inaccurate.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [hulu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hulu.md), [documentary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/documentary.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [arkansas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arkansas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/47.md)

### 48. Mainstream Media Influence, Host Disagreement on Reality (2:20:27–2:22:46)

A sharp disagreement occurs between the hosts regarding the remaining power of mainstream media. One host argues that the public has largely lost trust in outlets like the New York Times and CNN, while the other maintains that these institutions still hold significant influence over the general population.

Keywords: [mainstream media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mainstream-media.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [public trust](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-trust.md), [debate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/debate.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/48.md)

### 49. Prince Harry, Russian Prank Call and Climate Activism (2:22:48–2:27:20)

Russian pranksters successfully trick Prince Harry into a phone call by posing as Greta Thunberg and her father. During the call, Harry criticizes Donald Trump’s support for the coal industry, claiming the President has "blood on his hands" due to the impact of climate change on island nations.

Keywords: [prince harry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prince-harry.md), [greta thunberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greta-thunberg.md), russian hoaxers, [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/49.md)

### 50. Sir Roland Ref, Ice Hockey and Peerage (2:27:21–2:29:08)

Ron Convery is knighted as "Sir Roland Ref of the Frozen Sheet," referencing his two decades as an ice hockey referee. His donation note includes a "boob" donation and a mention that "Epstein didn't kill himself," while requesting Perdomo cigars at the roundtable.

Keywords: [ice hockey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ice-hockey.md), referee, [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), perdomo cigars, [epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/epstein.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/50.md)

### 51. Dame Chardonnay, Peerage Corrections and Small Donors (2:29:10–2:33:32)

Renee Dupont is officially titled "Dame Chardonnay of the Lelanu Grapefields" after a delay in her peerage request. The hosts acknowledge several other $50 donors and emphasize the importance of small, recurring donations in maintaining the show's "value-for-value" model.

Keywords: dame chardonnay, [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roundtable.md), [value-for-value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [small donors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/small-donors.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/51.md)

### 52. Birthday Credits, Roundtable Menu and Peerage Upgrades (2:33:36–2:36:15)

The hosts read birthday wishes for several producers and announce peerage upgrades, including Sir Code Monkey becoming the Baron of Data. The "Roundtable" menu is recited, featuring eclectic items like "Hookers N' Blow," "Mutton and Mead," and "Corned Beef and Cabbage."

Keywords: [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), [roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roundtable.md), [hookers and blow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hookers-and-blow.md), [no agenda nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-nation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/52.md)

### 53. No Agenda Meetups, Global Sanity Gatherings (2:36:15–2:40:51)

A report from a Winston-Salem meetup is played, followed by a list of upcoming No Agenda gatherings in Austin, Charlotte, Denver, and a last-minute event in Las Vegas. The hosts encourage listeners to attend meetups for their mental health and to connect with non-triggered individuals.

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [charlotte](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charlotte.md), [denver](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/denver.md), [las vegas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/las-vegas.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/53.md)

### 54. Meetup Site Rules, Childerberg Camping Trip Controversy (2:40:59–2:44:02)

The hosts clarify that the No Agenda meetup site is strictly for show-specific gatherings and not for general event advertising. This follows a controversy regarding the "Childerberg" camping trip in Austin, which was denied a listing to prevent the site from being used for external plugs.

Keywords: childerberg, [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), meetup rules, [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [mimi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mimi.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/54.md)

### 55. Geo-Fencing Warrants, Google GPS Data Privacy (2:44:03–2:48:08)

A legal case in Gainesville, Florida, highlights the use of "geo-fencing warrants" where police demand GPS data from Google for all devices in a specific area during a crime. This practice raises significant Fourth Amendment concerns, as innocent bystanders can have their private data searched by authorities.

Keywords: [geo-fencing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/geo-fencing.md), [google](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google.md), [fourth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fourth-amendment.md), [gainesville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gainesville.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/55.md)

### 56. Telemedicine Apps, Banking Fees and Bitcoin Crash (2:48:09–2:52:16)

The trend of insurance and banking companies using apps to track users in exchange for discounts is criticized as a precursor to mandatory fees. The discussion shifts to the recent crash of Bitcoin to $6,000, questioning its status as a "safe haven" asset during market turmoil.

Keywords: [telemedicine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/telemedicine.md), [progressive insurance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/progressive-insurance.md), [atm fees](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atm-fees.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [safe haven](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/safe-haven.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/56.md)

### 57. Saudi Arabia Crackdown, Sudan Economic Crisis (2:52:18–2:56:23)

Reports emerge of a new crackdown on the Saudi royal family by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. Meanwhile, Sudan faces a severe economic crisis with citizens waiting in massive queues for fuel and bread, echoing conditions that led to the ousting of Omar al-Bashir.

Keywords: [saudi arabia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/saudi-arabia.md), [mbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mbs.md), [sudan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sudan.md), fuel shortages, bread lines

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/57.md)

### 58. East Africa Locust Plague, Kosher Crunchy Snacks (2:56:23–3:02:31)

A massive locust upsurge threatens East Africa, with swarms in South Sudan, Uganda, and Kenya expected to grow 500-fold if not contained. The insects are destroying crops and livestock feed, though a lighthearted note mentions that some in Israel consider them a "crunchy kosher snack."

Keywords: [locusts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/locusts.md), [south sudan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-sudan.md), [uganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uganda.md), [kenya](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kenya.md), kosher

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/58.md)

### 59. Body Size Discrimination Bill, Airline Weight Pricing (3:02:32–3:05:11)

Massachusetts lawmakers consider a bill to ban discrimination based on height or weight. The hosts discuss the practical implications for airlines and theme parks, suggesting that charging by weight or size for the space occupied is a logical business practice rather than discrimination.

Keywords: [massachusetts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/massachusetts.md), [discrimination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/discrimination.md), [height](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/height.md), [weight](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weight.md), airline pricing

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/59.md)

### 60. Harvey Weinstein Sentencing, Accomplice Accountability (3:05:12–3:12:14)

Harvey Weinstein is sentenced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual acts in New York. The discussion explores the lack of remorse shown by Weinstein and calls for the prosecution of "enablers" and "accomplices" in Hollywood who were aware of his behavior but failed to act.

Keywords: [harvey weinstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harvey-weinstein.md), [sentencing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sentencing.md), [me too](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/me-too.md), [hollywood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollywood.md), enablers

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/60.md)

### 61. Show Outro, End of Show Mixes (3:12:15–3:16:11)

The show concludes with a reminder of the value-for-value model and a series of "end of show mixes" featuring satirical songs about COVID-19 and Joe Biden. The hosts sign off from Austin and Northern Silicon Valley, promising to return on Sunday.

Keywords: [adam curry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adam-curry.md), [john c. dvorak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-c-dvorak.md), [covid-19](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/covid-19.md), [biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biden.md), [armageddon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/armageddon.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1224-caps/chapter/61.md)

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