# Sebelius Double Speak > Agricultural giants face scrutiny over crop failures and price manipulation while global central banks flood the market with paper currency amid a deepening economic recession. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 122 - **Published:** 2009-08-16 - **Length:** 1h 19m - **Topics:** [Monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), Late Blight, ADM Scandal, [Swine Flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swine-flu.md), [Money Supply](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/money-supply.md), KLM Airlines, Taser Usage - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak ## About this episode A severe late blight is devastating tomato and potato crops across the Northeast United States, sparking claims that Monsanto and Cornell University may be linked to the outbreak. Observers suggest the timing of the blight targets the organic heirloom market as Monsanto prepares to hike prices for its Roundup Ready 2 Yield soybean seeds by 42 percent. This agricultural crisis coincides with reports of a massive spike in the physical money supply at the St. Louis Federal Reserve, signaling potential hyperinflation despite official claims that France and Germany have exited the recession. Corporate corruption takes center stage through the history of Archer Daniels Midland and the lysine price-fixing scandal detailed in Kurt Eichenwald's book, The Informant. The FBI utilized 800 hours of surveillance to expose how ADM executives manipulated global livestock feed markets. Meanwhile, the World Trade Organization continues to monitor the subsidy war between Airbus and Boeing as aviation insurance costs rise. In the pharmaceutical sector, the UK Health Protection Agency has issued a confidential warning to 600 neurologists regarding a potential surge in Guillain-Barre Syndrome linked to the upcoming swine flu mass vaccination program. Tony the pilot recently completed his 550th transatlantic ferry flight in a Cessna 182, flying over the Rockies at 16,000 feet without supplemental oxygen. The Dutch Royal Family is currently pursuing a 25,000 euro-per-day lawsuit against the Associated Press over candid family photographs. In San Francisco, the Absinthe Brasserie and Bar receives a mixed review for its bland escargot, while the International Swine Flu Conference in Washington D.C. prepares for mass fatality management and morgue operations. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/transcript.md. ### 1. California Wildfires, Santa Cruz and Tracy Incidents (0:00–2:07) California wildfires are impacting the Santa Cruz and Tracy regions, with pilots reporting a massive wall of fire visible from the air near Oakland. The Tracy fire is exacerbated by 50-mile-per-hour winds and the presence of wind generators in the grasslands. Conditions remain extremely dry across the state, making containment efforts difficult for local fire services. Keywords: [california](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/california.md), [santa cruz](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/santa-cruz.md), tracy, [wildfires](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wildfires.md), [oakland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oakland.md), [aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/1.md) ### 2. KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, Virgin Atlantic Pricing Comparison (2:07–6:01) KLM Royal Dutch Airlines is noted for offering business class fares significantly lower than Virgin Atlantic, with a round-trip from San Francisco to London costing approximately $3,000 compared to Virgin's $12,000. Virgin Atlantic's "Upper Class" seating layout is criticized for its high density, resembling historical slave ship diagrams. Air France recently reported a half-billion euro loss following its acquisition of KLM. Keywords: [klm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/klm.md), [virgin atlantic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/virgin-atlantic.md), [air france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/air-france.md), [business class](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/business-class.md), airfare, [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Airline Catering Trends, Delta and Singapore Airlines (6:00–7:35) Airline food quality fluctuates based on the influence of external consultants and corporate cost-cutting measures. Delta Airlines previously improved its first-class wine and food selection under specific consultants before bean counters reduced budgets. Singapore Airlines, which manages Virgin Atlantic, also experienced a period of high-quality catering that has since varied. Keywords: [delta airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delta-airlines.md), [singapore airlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/singapore-airlines.md), [airline food](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airline-food.md), [wine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wine.md), [catering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/catering.md), [consultants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consultants.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/3.md) ### 4. KLM Delft Blue Porcelain Houses Collection (7:35–9:07) KLM Royal Dutch Airlines continues its tradition of gifting business class passengers miniature Delft Blue porcelain houses filled with liquor. There are currently 89 distinct models in the collection, modeled after real Dutch canal houses. These items remain a popular perk for international travelers despite the airline's recent financial losses. Keywords: [klm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/klm.md), [delft blue](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/delft-blue.md), porcelain houses, [collectibles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/collectibles.md), [business class](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/business-class.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Transatlantic Aircraft Ferry Flight, Tony the Pilot (9:07–12:05) A 70-year-old ferry pilot named Tony completed his 550th transatlantic crossing, delivering a Cessna 182 from London to Oakland. The six-day journey included a repair stop in Vermont for a broken vacuum pump and a high-altitude leg over the Rockies at 16,000 feet without supplemental oxygen. The aircraft is a retractable-gear model with long-range tanks capable of seven-hour flights. Keywords: [oakland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oakland.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [cessna 182](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cessna-182.md), ferry pilot, [aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation.md), [oxygen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oxygen.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/5.md) ### 6. World Trade Organization, Airbus and Boeing Competition (12:06–14:46) The World Trade Organization is monitoring the competitive landscape between Airbus and Boeing as European governments provide subsidies to Airbus. The aircraft delivery process involves staged payments as the plane moves through the assembly line, culminating in "green" status before final painting. Official handovers occur only after electronic confirmation of multi-million dollar funds. Keywords: [world trade organization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-trade-organization.md), [airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md), [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [subsidies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/subsidies.md), aircraft manufacturing [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Aviation Insurance, Health Care Financing Parallels (14:47–16:23) Aviation insurance restrictions prevent non-employees from hitching rides on empty Boeing ferry flights due to liability concerns. This shift in insurance mirrors the broader health care industry, where insurance has transitioned from a disaster-recovery mechanism to a complex financing system for routine medical expenses. Keywords: [insurance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/insurance.md), [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [health care](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-care.md), [liability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liability.md), [risk management](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/risk-management.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/7.md) ### 8. The Informant, Archer Daniels Midland Price Fixing Scandal (16:25–18:56) The book "The Informant" by Kurt Eichenwald chronicles the 1990s price-fixing scandal at Archer Daniels Midland (ADM) involving the amino acid lysine. ADM executives conspired with Japanese competitors to limit production and set global prices for the livestock feed additive. The investigation utilized 800 hours of FBI surveillance tapes to expose corporate corruption and political influence-peddling. Keywords: [archer daniels midland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/archer-daniels-midland.md), [kurt eichenwald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kurt-eichenwald.md), lysine, [price fixing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/price-fixing.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [whistleblower](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whistleblower.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Absinthe Brasserie and Bar, San Francisco Dining Review (18:56–23:40) Absinthe Brasserie and Bar on Hayes Street in San Francisco is described as having a good atmosphere but inconsistent food quality. While the appetizers and drinks were acceptable, the escargot was criticized for being bland and lacking sufficient garlic. The establishment is noted more for its bar scene than its culinary execution. Keywords: absinthe brasserie, [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), hayes street, [restaurant review](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/restaurant-review.md), escargot [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Noodle Theory Oakland, ADM Lysine Production (23:40–25:52) Noodle Theory in Oakland is recognized for its cleanliness and affordable menu after two years of operation. The discussion transitions back to Archer Daniels Midland's biotechnology division, which uses microbes to convert corn dextrose into lysine. This process, described as "bugs eating dextrose and crapping lysine," is essential for bulking up livestock for companies like Tyson and Conagra. Keywords: noodle theory, [oakland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oakland.md), [biotechnology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biotechnology.md), lysine, dextrose, [microbes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microbes.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Dutch Royal Family, Associated Press Privacy Lawsuit (25:53–29:12) The Dutch Royal Family has filed a lawsuit against the Associated Press to prevent the distribution of candid family photographs to media clients. Prince Willem-Alexander claims the photos cause unacceptable pressure on his children and damage their family life. The suit seeks a fine of 25,000 euros for each day the images remain in the AP database, with a ruling expected on August 28. Keywords: dutch royal family, [associated press](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/associated-press.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), willem-alexander, [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [lawsuit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lawsuit.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Tomato Late Blight, Monsanto GMO Resistance Claims (29:13–32:52) A severe late blight is affecting tomato and potato crops in the Northeast United States, occurring much earlier in the season than typical fall outbreaks. Speculation exists regarding a connection between the blight and the development of resistant "super tomatoes" at Cornell University, which has ties to Monsanto. Some observers suggest the outbreak may be a concerted effort to undermine the organic heirloom tomato market. Keywords: tomato blight, [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), [cornell university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cornell-university.md), heirloom tomatoes, ug99, [fungus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fungus.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Farmers Markets, Monsanto Seed Price Increases (32:52–35:56) Monsanto plans to increase prices for its new "Roundup Ready 2 Yield" soybean seeds by up to 42% next year. While small-scale farmers markets gain popularity for offering superior produce, large-scale industrial agriculture continues to dominate via patented GMO seeds. The agricultural giant's market influence is linked to high suicide rates among farmers in India who struggle with debt and crop failures. Keywords: [farmers markets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/farmers-markets.md), [monsanto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/monsanto.md), roundup ready 2, [soybeans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/soybeans.md), [india](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/india.md), [agriculture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/agriculture.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/13.md) ### 14. McDonald's Big Mac, Health Effects of Fast Food (35:57–37:30) Consuming a McDonald's Big Mac meal, including genetically modified fries and a milkshake, resulted in an immediate physical collapse and comatose state for one individual. The high salt, fat, and chemical content of modern fast food is theorized to trigger extreme lethargy. Despite the health risks, the visual appeal of the food often matches its heavily engineered advertising. Keywords: [mcdonald's](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mcdonald-s.md), [big mac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-mac.md), [fast food](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fast-food.md), [health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health.md), lethargy [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/14.md) ### 15. European GM Crop Bans, Global Food Supply Concerns (37:30–39:38) The UK Express warns that meat and dairy prices could rise by 20% as farmers in Brazil and Argentina shift toward genetically modified soya, which is banned in Europe. Monsanto faces approximately 50 lawsuits alleging links between its products and various cancers. Critics argue the integration of big agriculture and big pharma creates a cycle where poor nutrition leads to increased pharmaceutical dependency. Keywords: [brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md), [argentina](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/argentina.md), [europe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/europe.md), gm crops, soya, cancer lawsuits [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Spiriva COPD Inhaler, Pharmaceutical Advertising Disclaimers (39:38–41:50) The pharmaceutical advertisement for Spiriva, a daily maintenance treatment for COPD and emphysema, is noted for its unusually long one-minute duration. The ad features extensive disclaimers regarding side effects such as vision changes, glaucoma, and prostate issues. Modern drug marketing often utilizes these disclaimers as a psychological tool to build perceived transparency with consumers. Keywords: spiriva, [copd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copd.md), [pharmaceutical ads](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pharmaceutical-ads.md), [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [emphysema](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emphysema.md), [side effects](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/side-effects.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/16.md) ### 17. FDA Regulations, Campbell's Soup Advertising Scandal (41:50–43:38) The FDA previously penalized Campbell's Soup for using marbles in the bottom of soup bowls during commercial shoots to force vegetables to the surface. This deceptive practice made the product appear heartier than the actual consumer version. Similar scrutiny is often applied to fast food companies that use stylized models of burgers in their marketing materials. Keywords: [fda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fda.md), [campbell's soup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campbell-s-soup.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [consumer protection](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/consumer-protection.md), [marketing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marketing.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Sugar Shortage Warning, High Fructose Corn Syrup Lobby (43:39–45:13) Major food corporations including Hershey, Mars, and Krispy Kreme have warned the Obama administration of a potential sugar shortage due to restrictive import quotas. These quotas benefit the domestic high fructose corn syrup industry, led by Archer Daniels Midland. Chocolate manufacturers specifically require real sugar because corn syrup prevents chocolate from setting properly during production. Keywords: [hershey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hershey.md), [mars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mars.md), [krispy kreme](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/krispy-kreme.md), [sugar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sugar.md), [high fructose corn syrup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/high-fructose-corn-syrup.md), [adm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adm.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Economic Recession, Global Money Supply Spike (45:14–48:25) While France and Germany report technical exits from the recession, critics argue these figures are manipulated through accounting methods like EBITDA. Data from the St. Louis Federal Reserve shows a massive spike in the actual physical money supply, suggesting that central banks are aggressively printing currency. This influx of paper money raises concerns about long-term hyperinflation despite the current lack of consumer credit. Keywords: [recession](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recession.md), [money supply](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/money-supply.md), [federal reserve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/federal-reserve.md), [inflation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/inflation.md), [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [germany](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/germany.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Gold Standard, Dubai Gold Market (48:26–51:19) The intrinsic value of gold is debated as a representative medium for exchange versus a fiat currency system. Historical events, such as the 1849 Gold Rush, acted as a natural expansion of the money supply similar to modern printing presses. Currently, much of the world's gold is concentrated in Dubai, while the UK's reserves were famously depleted when Gordon Brown sold them at market lows. Keywords: [gold](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gold.md), [gordon brown](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gordon-brown.md), [dubai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dubai.md), [currency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/currency.md), barter, [economics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economics.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Reality Television Rationale, Kate Gosselin Interview (51:19–56:50) Media critics on the Today Show argue that reality television figures like Kate Gosselin serve as a mirror for American families to judge their own lives. Critics counter that these "unscripted dramas" are as fabricated as 1950s sitcoms like Leave It to Beaver. In contrast, C-SPAN is highlighted as a more authentic form of reality television due to its unfiltered broadcast of government proceedings. Keywords: kate gosselin, [today show](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/today-show.md), [reality tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reality-tv.md), [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [media analysis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-analysis.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/21.md) ### 22. Mark Hawthorne, Former New York Times Reporter (56:50–58:23) Mark Hawthorne, a former reporter for the New York Times, has lived on the streets of Berkeley for over 30 years after becoming bored with "normal" life. He was recently featured in a calendar chronicling the lives of local street people. His story serves as a cautionary tale for current journalists about the unpredictable nature of the profession. Keywords: mark hawthorne, [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [berkeley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/berkeley.md), [homelessness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homelessness.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Joseph Moshe, Los Angeles Federal Building Standoff (58:25–1:01:27) Microbiologist Joseph Moshe was arrested following an eight-hour standoff with the FBI outside the Los Angeles Federal Building. While official reports claimed he threatened the White House, alternative theories suggest he was attempting to reach the Israeli Consulate to expose information regarding swine flu vaccine testing. Moshe is described as a top Israeli bio-scientist with expertise in bioweaponry. Keywords: joseph moshe, [los angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/los-angeles.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [bioweapons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bioweapons.md), [mossad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mossad.md), [swine flu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/swine-flu.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Guillain-Barre Syndrome, Swine Flu Vaccine Warning (1:01:28–1:04:31) The UK Health Protection Agency sent a confidential letter to 600 senior neurologists warning them to monitor for an increase in Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS). The warning is linked to the upcoming mass vaccination program for swine flu, as adjuvants in the vaccine may trigger the deadly nerve disease. This echoes concerns from the 1976 swine flu outbreak where the vaccine caused more deaths than the virus itself. 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Keywords: [tasers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tasers.md), [police brutality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/police-brutality.md), military suicides, [blackwater](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/blackwater.md), [whistleblowers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whistleblowers.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/122-sebelius-double-speak/chapter/25.md) ### 26. International Donor Contributions, Marathon Calculation (1:07:07–1:14:32) The show received a diverse range of international donations from Sweden, Australia, Belgium, and Poland. One notable contribution of $146.31 from a donor in Warsaw was a coded reference to the 42.195-kilometer distance of a marathon. The hosts emphasize the importance of listener support to maintain an ad-free format and avoid corporate sponsorship. 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