# The Elders

> A landmark Supreme Court ruling on homelessness reshapes West Coast policy as Michael Bloomberg faces a Stop and Frisk reckoning and Michael Avenatti heads to prison.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1217
- **Published:** 2020-02-20
- **Length:** 3h 1m
- **Topics:** Boise ruling, Avenatti conviction, Bloomberg 2020, Taliban peace, Huawei 5G, Airbus tariffs
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders

## About this episode

The United States Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal from Boise, Idaho, effectively upholding a Ninth Circuit ruling that prohibits cities from ticketing homeless individuals for sleeping in public when shelter beds are unavailable. This landmark decision forces West Coast municipalities to provide housing solutions before enforcing camping bans. Meanwhile, attorney Michael Avenatti faces up to 40 years in prison after a jury found him guilty of attempting to extort millions of dollars from Nike.

U.S. Attorney John Durham has expanded his investigation into the origins of the Russia probe, specifically examining whether former CIA Director John Brennan withheld critical intelligence from other agencies. In the 2020 primary, Michael Bloomberg faces intense scrutiny over his expansion of Stop and Frisk policing in New York City, even as rumors circulate regarding a potential vice-presidential ticket with Hillary Clinton. Overseas, Defense Secretary Mark Esper announced a seven-day reduction in violence agreement with the Taliban, while Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema proposed a ban on tourist cannabis sales to combat over-tourism. In France, public hospital staff are resigning administrative duties to protest budget cuts that have left patients on stretchers for days.

Bernie Sanders drew massive crowds at the Tacoma Dome, sparking a debate over arena capacity versus Donald Trump's rally figures. Comedian Bill Maher questioned the military's role should a sitting president refuse to vacate the White House, while Snoop Dogg's criticism of Gayle King ignited a firestorm on Morning Joe. The Podcast Academy's new Golden Mike Awards received a cold reception as an industry insider scam.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/transcript.md.

### 1. Bernie Sanders, Tacoma Dome Attendance Speculation (0:00–2:12)

Bernie Sanders held a campaign event at the Tacoma Dome in Washington, drawing comparisons to Donald Trump's rally attendance figures. The venue, a 23,000-seat arena, reportedly saw large crowds waiting outside. Speculation remains regarding whether the senator successfully filled the large-scale rock concert venue to capacity.

Keywords: [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), tacoma dome, [trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump.md), [washington](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington.md), [campaign rally](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campaign-rally.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Supreme Court, Boise Homeless Camping Ruling (2:13–10:17)

The United States Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal from the city of Boise regarding a Ninth Circuit ruling on homeless encampments. The lower court determined that ticketing individuals for sleeping in public when no shelter beds are available constitutes cruel and unusual punishment under the Eighth Amendment. This decision effectively prevents West Coast cities from enforcing camping bans without providing adequate housing solutions.

Keywords: [supreme court](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/supreme-court.md), [ninth circuit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ninth-circuit.md), [boise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boise.md), [eighth amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eighth-amendment.md), [homelessness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homelessness.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Michael Avenatti, Nike Extortion Conviction (10:18–15:58)

Attorney Michael Avenatti was found guilty by a jury for attempting to extort millions of dollars from Nike. Previously famous for representing Stormy Daniels against Donald Trump, Avenatti now faces up to 40 years in prison. Additional charges against him include defrauding clients and mismanaging funds related to a book deal.

Keywords: [michael avenatti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-avenatti.md), [nike](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nike.md), [stormy daniels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stormy-daniels.md), [extortion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/extortion.md), [fraud](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fraud.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Bill Maher, Donald Trump Transition of Power Fears (15:59–29:30)

Comedian Bill Maher expressed concerns on his program "Real Time" that Donald Trump may refuse to leave the White House if he loses the 2020 election. During an interview with Senator Amy Klobuchar and a panel featuring Van Jones and Katie Couric, Maher questioned whether the military or police would intervene. Panelists pushed back, citing the military's oath to the Constitution rather than the Commander-in-Chief.

Keywords: [bill maher](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-maher.md), [amy klobuchar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amy-klobuchar.md), [van jones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/van-jones.md), [military](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/military.md), [dictatorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dictatorship.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Dave Winer, Rachel Maddow Tyranny Discussion (29:42–33:05)

Software developer Dave Winer discussed a segment from Rachel Maddow's show featuring Yale professor Timothy Snyder regarding the threat of tyranny in America. The commentary suggested that the country is entering a lawless phase where political opposition, including figures like Michael Bloomberg or Hillary Clinton, could face jail or exile.

Keywords: [dave winer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dave-winer.md), [rachel maddow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rachel-maddow.md), [timothy snyder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/timothy-snyder.md), [tyranny](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tyranny.md), [bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloomberg.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Social Media, Geographic Profile Identification Proposal (33:06–36:31)

A proposal suggests that social media users should be required to list their geographic location in their profiles to provide cultural context for their statements. Using Donald Trump's Queens upbringing as an example, the argument posits that understanding regional communication styles could reduce online friction.

Keywords: [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [queens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queens.md), regionalism, discourse

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/6.md)

### 7. John Durham, CIA Russia Investigation (36:32–42:03)

U.S. Attorney John Durham is investigating the origins of the Russia probe, specifically looking into whether the CIA under John Brennan withheld information from other agencies. Brennan dismissed the inquiry as a political tool used by the Trump administration. Durham's background includes high-profile cases such as the Whitey Bulger investigation and CIA torture inquiries.

Keywords: [john durham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-durham.md), [john brennan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-brennan.md), [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md), [whitey bulger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/whitey-bulger.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Mark Shields, PBS NewsHour Russia Collusion Commentary (42:04–46:51)

PBS NewsHour commentator Mark Shields claimed that Donald Trump's intervention in the Roger Stone case stems from a fear that Stone could link him to WikiLeaks and Russia. The commentary reflects a broader media sentiment of resignation and alarm following the Senate's vote to acquit the President in his impeachment trial.

Keywords: [mark shields](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-shields.md), [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [roger stone](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roger-stone.md), [wikileaks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wikileaks.md), [trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Michael Bloomberg, Hillary Clinton Vice President Rumors (46:52–49:31)

Rumors circulated that Michael Bloomberg is considering Hillary Clinton as a potential vice-presidential running mate. While viewed by some as a trial balloon to gauge public interest, critics argue that a ticket featuring two New Yorkers would be politically unbalanced and potentially face constitutional hurdles.

Keywords: [michael bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-bloomberg.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [vice president](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vice-president.md), [trial balloon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trial-balloon.md), [2020 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2020-election.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Democratic National Convention, Superdelegate Rule Changes (49:31–52:39)

Media outlets are discussing the possibility of a brokered Democratic convention if Bernie Sanders fails to secure a majority of delegates. Under new rules, superdelegates—referred to by some as "party elders"—cannot vote on the first ballot but would become decisive in subsequent rounds of voting.

Keywords: [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [superdelegates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/superdelegates.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), [brokered convention](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brokered-convention.md), [chuck todd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-todd.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Michael Bloomberg, Stop and Frisk Policy Criticism (52:40–1:01:03)

Michael Bloomberg's presidential campaign is facing scrutiny over his past support for "Stop and Frisk" policing in New York City. While Bloomberg has apologized, data suggests his administration expanded the practice significantly compared to the Giuliani era, with a lower rate of weapon recovery and higher rates of citizen harassment.

Keywords: [michael bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-bloomberg.md), [stop and frisk](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stop-and-frisk.md), [rudy giuliani](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rudy-giuliani.md), [ados](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ados.md), [new york city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-city.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Michael Bloomberg, Minority Voter Outreach (1:01:03–1:03:34)

Michael Bloomberg's heavy investment in advertising has reportedly increased his name recognition among minority voters compared to candidates like Pete Buttigieg. Anecdotal evidence suggests that while younger voters favor Bernie Sanders, Bloomberg's visibility through saturation campaigning is gaining traction in diverse communities.

Keywords: [michael bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-bloomberg.md), [pete buttigieg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pete-buttigieg.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [chicanos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicanos.md), [polling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/polling.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/12.md)

### 13. No Agenda Art, Liberty Maniacs Copyright Issue (1:03:35–1:11:08)

The No Agenda show inadvertently used copyrighted artwork from LibertyManiacs.com for an episode cover. The site's owner, a listener of the show, reached out to clarify the origin of the piece, which was previously involved in a legal dispute with the Hillary Clinton campaign. The hosts also addressed technical issues with the No Agenda Art Generator.

Keywords: liberty maniacs, [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [podcast art](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-art.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [paul couture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-couture.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Executive Producer Credits, Listener Donations (1:11:09–1:23:08)

Executive producers Sean McCall and John Waldorf contributed $333.33 each to support the program. Other donors, including Dennis Garcia and Jacob Forrester, provided financial support while requesting "de-douching" ceremonies and sharing personal anecdotes about introducing the show to family members.

Keywords: [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), bloomington, [minnesota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/minnesota.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Associate Executive Producers, Numerology in Donations (1:23:08–1:32:51)

Associate Executive Producers including Zachary McLean and Joe Bisesi contributed to the show, with many utilizing "lucky numbers" like 33 and 88 in their donation amounts. The hosts discussed the significance of these numbers in the "No Agenda" community and clarified the concept of "Dimension A" as base reality versus media-driven "Dimension B."

Keywords: [numerology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/numerology.md), [33](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/33.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [kobe bryant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kobe-bryant.md), dimension a

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Listener Letters, New World Order Jingle (1:32:52–1:42:09)

Tristan Allen celebrated his 16th birthday with a donation and requested several show jingles. The hosts also addressed a listener's "mondegreen" regarding the "Propagate" jingle, clarifying that the lyrics refer to the "New World Order" rather than a "New Water Order."

Keywords: tristan allen, [jingles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jingles.md), [new world order](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-world-order.md), rubbleizer, [george clooney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-clooney.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Podcast Awards, The Podcast Academy Critique (1:42:10–1:50:47)

A new organization called The Podcast Academy announced the "Golden Mike Awards" to honor top shows in the industry. The hosts criticized the move as an "insider scam" designed to commercialize the medium, arguing that podcasting's strength lies in its independence from mainstream award structures.

Keywords: [podcast academy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcast-academy.md), golden mike awards, [bloomberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloomberg.md), [iheartradio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iheartradio.md), wondery

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/17.md)

### 18. US-EU Trade, Airbus and Boeing Tariffs (1:50:48–1:54:21)

The United States increased tariffs on European Union goods to 10% following a WTO ruling on illegal subsidies for Airbus. These trade tensions have expanded to include 25% tariffs on products like French wine and cheese, which consumers are beginning to notice in retail pricing.

Keywords: [tariffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tariffs.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [airbus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/airbus.md), [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), [wine prices](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wine-prices.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/18.md)

### 19. European Parliament, Mick Wallace Reprimand (1:54:23–1:55:22)

Irish MEP Mick Wallace was reprimanded in the European Parliament for using the term "gobscheit" to describe Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaidó. The incident highlighted the colorful language sometimes used in EU legislative sessions.

Keywords: [mick wallace](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mick-wallace.md), [european parliament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-parliament.md), [juan guaido](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/juan-guaido.md), [ireland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ireland.md), gobscheit

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/19.md)

### 20. France, Public Hospital Staff Protests (1:55:22–1:57:38)

Public hospitals in France are facing significant strain as doctors and nurses protest against budget cuts and "the politics of accountancy." Staff shortages have led to patients waiting on stretchers for extended periods, prompting hundreds of doctors to resign from administrative duties in protest.

Keywords: [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [healthcare](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/healthcare.md), [nhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nhs.md), hospital strikes, [budget cuts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budget-cuts.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Amsterdam, Tourist Cannabis Ban Proposal (1:57:38–2:01:44)

Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema is considering a ban on tourists purchasing cannabis to curb "over-tourism" and antisocial behavior. Residents complain that cheap flights and Airbnb have led to an influx of visitors who harass locals and strain the city's resources.

Keywords: [amsterdam](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amsterdam.md), [cannabis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cannabis.md), [tourism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tourism.md), [femke halsema](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/femke-halsema.md), [red light district](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-light-district.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Afghanistan, Taliban Peace Agreement Progress (2:01:45–2:02:35)

Defense Secretary Mark Esper announced that a seven-day "reduction in violence" agreement with the Taliban is imminent. If successful, this could lead to a formal peace deal and the gradual withdrawal of United States forces from Afghanistan.

Keywords: [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), [taliban](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/taliban.md), [mark esper](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-esper.md), [mike pompeo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-pompeo.md), [peace deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peace-deal.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Coronavirus, Global Outbreak and China Lockdown (2:02:36–2:09:56)

The CDC is intensifying efforts to combat the coronavirus as deaths in China surpass 1,500. Reports from Shanghai and Wenzhou describe severe lockdowns where residents are restricted to their homes and international schools are being used as quarantine sites, disrupting global supply chains and education.

Keywords: [coronavirus](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/coronavirus.md), [wuhan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wuhan.md), [shanghai](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/shanghai.md), [cdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cdc.md), [quarantine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/quarantine.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/23.md)

### 24. American Factory, Obama Documentary Review (2:09:58–2:21:31)

The Oscar-winning documentary "American Factory," produced by Higher Ground Productions, examines a Chinese-owned glass factory in Dayton, Ohio. The film highlights the cultural clash between Chinese management and American workers, ultimately suggesting that automation is the inevitable future of manufacturing.

Keywords: american factory, [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), [netflix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netflix.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md), [dayton ohio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dayton-ohio.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Munich Security Conference, Nancy Pelosi Huawei Warning (2:21:33–2:26:57)

Speaker Nancy Pelosi warned European nations against adopting Huawei's 5G technology, labeling the company a national security threat. During the conference, a Chinese official challenged Pelosi, questioning if Western democracy is so fragile that it could be threatened by a single technology company.

Keywords: [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [huawei](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/huawei.md), [5g](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/5g.md), [munich security conference](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/munich-security-conference.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/25.md)

### 26. 2020 Democratic Primary, Campaign Trail Update (2:26:57–2:33:26)

Democratic candidates are shifting focus to Nevada and South Carolina ahead of Super Tuesday. Bernie Sanders continues to target the "1%," while Michael Bloomberg is engaging in a public feud with Donald Trump via social media as he prepares for his first primary contests.

Keywords: [bernie sanders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bernie-sanders.md), [elizabeth warren](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/elizabeth-warren.md), [amy klobuchar](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amy-klobuchar.md), [pete buttigieg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pete-buttigieg.md), [super tuesday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/super-tuesday.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Listener Birthdays, Linux Mint Installation (2:33:27–2:38:39)

A listener from Australia shared a story about her son, Ben, who installed Linux Mint on her computer to improve her technical experience. The segment included birthday shout-outs and a comparison of the podcast's humor to the classic British radio program "The Goon Show."

Keywords: [linux mint](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/linux-mint.md), [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), goon show, benny hill, [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Knighting Ceremony, Round Table Inductions (2:38:39–2:40:54)

Several producers were elevated to the peerage of the No Agenda show, including Dame Jamie, Lady of the Highway, and Sir Dude Named Daniel. The ceremony included the traditional reading of the "Round Table" menu and instructions for receiving official rings and certificates.

Keywords: [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md), [damehood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/damehood.md), [round table](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/round-table.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/28.md)

### 29. No Agenda Meetups, Global Listener Gatherings (2:40:58–2:47:22)

Listeners held meetups in diverse locations including Tokyo, Japan, and Manama, Bahrain. Upcoming events are scheduled for Fort Lauderdale, San Antonio, and Albuquerque, providing opportunities for "No Agenda" producers to network and discuss media deconstruction in person.

Keywords: [tokyo](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tokyo.md), [bahrain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bahrain.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Department of Justice, Presidential Intervention Authority (2:47:23–2:52:03)

A discussion regarding the President's constitutional authority over the Department of Justice featured a clip of a legal expert with a notably high-pitched voice. The segment explored the norms of prosecutorial independence versus the President's legal standing as the head of the executive branch.

Keywords: [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md), [executive branch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-branch.md), [constitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/constitution.md), [ben shapiro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-shapiro.md), [helium voice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/helium-voice.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Snoop Dogg, Gayle King Kobe Bryant Controversy (2:52:04–2:56:33)

Rapper Snoop Dogg's criticism of Gayle King following her interview about Kobe Bryant sparked a heated debate on "Morning Joe." Host Mika Brzezinski called out major media organizations and corporate partners for failing to sufficiently defend King against online threats and harassment.

Keywords: [snoop dogg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/snoop-dogg.md), [gayle king](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gayle-king.md), [oprah winfrey](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oprah-winfrey.md), [kobe bryant](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kobe-bryant.md), [morning joe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/morning-joe.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1217-the-elders/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Joe Biden, South Carolina Campaign Speech (2:56:33–3:01:03)

Joe Biden delivered a speech in South Carolina utilizing religious rhetoric to emphasize his resilience in the primary race. The episode concluded with a musical mix featuring commentary on Hillary Clinton's potential entry into the 2020 contest and the ongoing "Orange Man Bad" media narrative.

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