# Lawsuit Crazy

> A landmark copyright ruling in the Netherlands validates Creative Commons as the hosts navigate private jet mishaps, Tesla production delays, and the high-stakes world of Las Vegas gambling.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 12
- **Published:** 2008-01-12
- **Length:** 1h 13m
- **Topics:** [Creative Commons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/creative-commons.md), [Tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), Pinball Hall of Fame, [MTV.com](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv-com.md), [Private Aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-aviation.md), CES 2008, [Cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy

## About this episode

Adam Curry details his landmark legal victory in the Netherlands against a tabloid that misappropriated his private Flickr photography, a case that established critical precedent for Creative Commons licensing. The dispute centered on whether a public download button constitutes a waiver of commercial rights, a claim the Dutch court ultimately rejected. This legal reflection extends to Curry’s historic battle with MTV over the MTV.com domain and the subsequent lack of support from the Electronic Frontier Foundation during the settlement process.

John C. Dvorak reports from the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, where he visited the Pinball Hall of Fame to examine rare prototypes worth $100,000. The discussion moves to the logistics of private aviation, featuring Dvorak’s account of a violent landing on Ray Lane’s Gulfstream G5 while traveling to the Tesla electric sports car launch. Additional coverage includes the technical limitations of hydrogen fuel cells, the decline of the pinball industry, and the aggressive solicitation tactics of modern mall kiosks at the Roosevelt Field Mall.

Technical segments explore the superior resolution of vintage Koss electrostatic headphones compared to modern ribbon speakers. John C. Dvorak clarifies his lack of relation to the inventor of the Dvorak keyboard layout while lamenting the persistence of QWERTY. The episode concludes with a warning about Facebook password harvesting and a breakdown of European banking security hardware.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/transcript.md.

### 1. United Kingdom Coastline, BBC Documentary Series Coast (0:01–1:57)

Adam Curry describes flying a private plane along the south coast of the United Kingdom, traveling from the Isle of Wight toward Lyd. The discussion highlights the BBC documentary series Coast, which features extensive aerial photography of the British shoreline. Observations are made regarding the diverse and spectacular nature of the UK coastline from an altitude of 1,500 feet.

Keywords: [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [isle of wight](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isle-of-wight.md), [bbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc.md), coast, [aerial photography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aerial-photography.md), lyd

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Las Vegas Video Poker, Gambling Strategy and Odds (1:58–3:48)

John C. Dvorak recounts his recent trip to Las Vegas, where he won a small amount of money playing video poker. The conversation focuses on the varying odds found on different machines and the specific strategies required to reach a break-even point. Dvorak references an old computer program called Video Poker Tutor that helped him develop his gameplay approach.

Keywords: [las vegas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/las-vegas.md), [video poker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/video-poker.md), [gambling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gambling.md), odds, [casino](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/casino.md), video poker tutor

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Craps Strategy, Las Vegas Social Gaming and Documentaries (3:49–5:59)

The discussion shifts to the game of craps and its nature as a social game where players win or lose as a group. Adam Curry mentions producing three documentaries in the early 1990s about Las Vegas, covering pawn shops, gambling mechanics, and the Las Vegas bike patrol. The hosts note that while casinos offer courses to teach players the rules, the house edge remains a constant factor.

Keywords: craps, [las vegas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/las-vegas.md), [gambling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gambling.md), [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), bike patrol, social gaming

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Consumer Electronics Show, Junk Vendors and Small Retailers (6:00–7:31)

John C. Dvorak reflects on his time at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, comparing its current atmosphere to the former Comdex show. The hosts criticize the presence of "junk" vendors and small-scale retailers selling cell phone skins and miscellaneous items. They question the business logic of small mom-and-pop operations purchasing expensive booth space at a major international trade show.

Keywords: [ces](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ces.md), consumer electronics show, [comdex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comdex.md), [retail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/retail.md), [electronics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electronics.md), vendors

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Mall Kiosk Solicitation, Aggressive Retail Tactics (7:31–10:20)

Adam Curry expresses frustration with a new trend in American and British shopping malls where kiosk vendors aggressively solicit passersby. He describes encounters at the Roosevelt Field Mall and the San Francisco Centre where vendors interrupt shoppers with questions to initiate sales demonstrations. The hosts debate whether this behavior is permitted by mall management and how it negatively impacts the shopping experience.

Keywords: shopping malls, [kiosks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kiosks.md), [retail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/retail.md), [solicitation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/solicitation.md), roosevelt field mall, [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Counterfeit Luxury Goods, Canal Street and Manufacturing Costs (10:20–12:11)

The conversation turns to the market for counterfeit luxury items, specifically handbags and sunglasses found on Canal Street in New York and in Korea. Adam Curry suggests that many "knockoffs" are actually authentic products from the same factories, sold as irregularities or overproduction. The hosts discuss the massive discrepancy between the manufacturing cost of high-end clothing and its retail price.

Keywords: [counterfeit goods](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/counterfeit-goods.md), [canal street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canal-street.md), knockoffs, [manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing.md), [gucci](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gucci.md), jack wills

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Movado Watch Knockoffs, Watch Collecting and Design (12:12–13:50)

John C. Dvorak describes his collection of counterfeit watches acquired during the peak of the Canal Street market. He highlights a specific silver-on-silver Movado replica that featured a unique design never actually produced by the official brand. The segment explores the aesthetic differences between authentic Swiss watches and their quartz-driven imitations.

Keywords: movado, watches, knockoffs, [canal street](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canal-street.md), horology, [design](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/design.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Rolex Watches, Personal Style and Timekeeping Accuracy (13:51–15:26)

The hosts compare their habits regarding wristwatches, with Dvorak maintaining a collection of twenty and Curry wearing a single gold Rolex gifted by his partner. They discuss the irony of expensive mechanical Rolex watches often keeping time less accurately than cheaper alternatives. Curry notes the physical wear and maintenance needs of a watch worn continuously for a year.

Keywords: [rolex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rolex.md), watches, [jewelry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jewelry.md), timekeeping, personal style, [maintenance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maintenance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/8.md)

### 9. MGM Grand Logistics, French Celebrity Chefs in Vegas (15:27–17:32)

John C. Dvorak offers advice on navigating the massive MGM Grand hotel in Las Vegas, recommending that guests request rooms near the elevator shafts to avoid long walks. The discussion moves to the influx of world-renowned French chefs in Las Vegas, including Joel Robuchon and Alain Ducasse. Dvorak expresses disappointment at being unable to secure a reservation at these high-end establishments.

Keywords: [mgm grand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mgm-grand.md), [las vegas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/las-vegas.md), [joel robuchon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joel-robuchon.md), alain ducasse, [hotels](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hotels.md), [restaurants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/restaurants.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/9.md)

### 10. French Labor Culture, Nicolas Sarkozy and Carla Bruni (17:33–19:49)

The hosts discuss French work culture, citing a 35-hour work week and extended lunch breaks as evidence of a different economic approach. They comment on French President Nicolas Sarkozy's high-profile relationship with singer Carla Bruni. Dvorak claims the French economy is perpetually struggling, leading to a search for data regarding French recessions.

Keywords: [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [nicolas sarkozy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nicolas-sarkozy.md), [carla bruni](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carla-bruni.md), [labor laws](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-laws.md), [economy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economy.md), [recession](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/recession.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Google News Indexing, French Economic Growth Reports (19:49–22:13)

While searching for information on the French economy, Adam Curry notes a discrepancy in Google's indexing system that surfaced a BBC News article from 2003 as a top result. The hosts discuss the 0.3% growth reported in that period and the difficulty of finding current French listeners for the program. They conclude that despite political rhetoric about working harder, French cultural traditions remain resistant to change.

Keywords: [google news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-news.md), [bbc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bbc-news.md), [france](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/france.md), [economy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economy.md), [gdp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gdp.md), [algorithm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithm.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Pinball Hall of Fame, Las Vegas Museum Collection (23:15–26:06)

John C. Dvorak describes his visit to the Pinball Hall of Fame located on East Tropicana in Las Vegas. The museum features a rotating selection of 200 machines from a collection of 800, including rare prototypes worth $100,000. The facility operates as a non-profit, with proceeds after overhead donated to charity, preserving games from the 1930s through the 1990s.

Keywords: pinball hall of fame, [las vegas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/las-vegas.md), arcade games, [charity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/charity.md), [museum](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/museum.md), tropicana

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Pinball Industry Decline, Maintenance and Parts Scavenging (26:07–28:26)

The hosts discuss the decline of the pinball industry, noting that only one manufacturer remains as video games have replaced mechanical tables. They explore the difficulties of maintaining vintage machines, which often requires machining custom parts or scavenging motors from old kitchen blenders. The Pinball Hall of Fame's recent media coverage in Southwest Airlines' Spirit magazine is also mentioned.

Keywords: [pinball](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pinball.md), arcade, [manufacturing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manufacturing.md), [maintenance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maintenance.md), [engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/engineering.md), [cranky geeks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cranky-geeks.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Private Aviation, Corporate Jet Sharing and NetJets (28:27–30:09)

John C. Dvorak recounts returning from Las Vegas on a Hawker 800 private jet. The hosts discuss the logistics of corporate aviation, noting that most private jets are now shared through services like NetJets rather than being individually owned. They list various tech billionaires who own aircraft, including Paul Allen and the founders of Google and eBay.

Keywords: [private jets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/private-jets.md), hawker 800, [netjets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netjets.md), gulfstream g5, [paul allen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-allen.md), [aviation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Tesla Electric Sports Car, Ray Lane G5 Landing Incident (30:09–32:25)

John C. Dvorak describes a flight on venture capitalist Ray Lane's Gulfstream G5 to attend the launch of the Tesla electric sports car in Burbank. He recounts a rough landing where a jammed brake caused the aircraft to jolt violently, throwing unbuckled passengers from their seats. The event featured a test track inside an airplane hangar where Silicon Valley elites pre-ordered the new vehicles.

Keywords: [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), [ray lane](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ray-lane.md), gulfstream g5, [electric cars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-cars.md), [burbank airport](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/burbank-airport.md), [aviation safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-safety.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Tesla Production Delays, Electric Vehicle Viability (32:25–34:36)

The hosts critique the Tesla sports car, describing it as a Lotus body fitted with a large battery. They discuss the long production delays facing the company since 2006 and the social status associated with being on the waiting list. Concerns are raised regarding the vehicle's cramped interior and the long-term viability of electric cars compared to traditional luxury brands like Lexus.

Keywords: [tesla](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tesla.md), [electric vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-vehicles.md), lotus, [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), [lithium-ion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lithium-ion.md), [automotive](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automotive.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Who Killed the Electric Car, GM EV1 and Battery Patents (34:37–36:12)

The discussion references the documentary Who Killed the Electric Car? and the history of the General Motors EV1. Adam Curry mentions rumors regarding suppressed battery patents that prevent the development of more efficient electric vehicles. The hosts debate whether the automotive industry intentionally hindered electric car adoption in previous decades.

Keywords: [general motors](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-motors.md), ev1, who killed the electric car, [patents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patents.md), [battery technology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/battery-technology.md), [hydrogen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydrogen.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Hydrogen Fuel Cell Challenges, Compressed Air Vehicles (36:12–38:56)

John C. Dvorak explains the technical limitations of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles, citing low energy density and the extreme pressure required for storage. He describes his experiences driving hydrogen prototypes from Honda, Toyota, and Ford, noting their high cost and limited range. The hosts also briefly discuss the "Air Car," a hybrid vehicle utilizing compressed air for propulsion.

Keywords: [hydrogen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hydrogen.md), [fuel cells](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fuel-cells.md), [honda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/honda.md), [toyota](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toyota.md), [compressed air](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/compressed-air.md), [energy density](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-density.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Gasoline Energy Density, Top Gear and Personal Motoring (38:57–41:27)

The hosts discuss the superior energy density of gasoline compared to alternative fuels, which explains its continued dominance in the automotive market. Adam Curry mentions his waning interest in driving despite living in the UK, the "land of Top Gear." He also provides a brief update on his partner Patricia's recovery from an appendectomy.

Keywords: [gasoline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gasoline.md), [energy density](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/energy-density.md), [top gear](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/top-gear.md), audi r8, motoring, personal health

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Creative Commons Lawsuit, Dutch Tabloid Photography Theft (41:27–44:36)

Adam Curry details a legal battle in the Netherlands against a tabloid that used his private Flickr photos without permission. The case served as a landmark for Creative Commons jurisprudence, as the magazine argued that a "download" button implied a right to commercial use. Although the judge awarded no financial damages, the ruling upheld the validity of the Creative Commons license.

Keywords: [creative commons](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/creative-commons.md), [copyright](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copyright.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [flickr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flickr.md), [litigation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/litigation.md), [journalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/journalism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/20.md)

### 21. MTV.com Domain Dispute, Settlement and EFF Criticism (44:37–47:18)

Adam Curry recounts his legal dispute with MTV over the MTV.com domain name, which he had registered with the company's initial permission. He expresses disappointment with the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) for refusing to assist in the case. The conflict was eventually settled out of court with a non-disparagement agreement, and Curry reflects on how modern ICANN rules would have handled the situation differently.

Keywords: [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), [domain names](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/domain-names.md), [eff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eff.md), [john perry barlow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-perry-barlow.md), [litigation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/litigation.md), [settlement](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/settlement.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Accents and Political Correctness, Big Brother UK Controversy (47:19–50:12)

The hosts discuss the use of accents in comedy and the increasing sensitivity surrounding cultural mimicry. They reference a major controversy on the UK reality show Big Brother involving alleged racist remarks between contestants, which reached the level of parliamentary discussion. Adam Curry argues that the show's format naturally leads to people losing their public filters.

Keywords: [accents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/accents.md), [political correctness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-correctness.md), [big brother](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-brother.md), [reality tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reality-tv.md), [racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racism.md), [parliament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parliament.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Reality Television Evolution, Unscripted Drama Mechanics (50:12–52:34)

The discussion explores the origins and evolution of reality television, crediting the Dutch company Endemol and producer Mark Burnett. The hosts analyze the "unscripted drama" genre, noting that while not strictly scripted, scenarios are often manufactured by producers. They observe a shift from using anonymous members of the public to featuring "D-list" celebrities seeking career revival.

Keywords: [reality tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reality-tv.md), [endemol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/endemol.md), [mark burnett](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mark-burnett.md), [survivor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/survivor.md), [production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/production.md), [celebrities](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/celebrities.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Television Industry Economics, VJ Career Rungs (52:35–55:02)

Adam Curry provides an insider's perspective on the economics of the television industry, claiming that most on-air talent, including MTV VJs, earn very little money. He describes the industry as a hierarchy where people endure poor pay and treatment for the sake of exposure and potential power. The segment highlights the manipulative nature of media organizations over their subordinates.

Keywords: television industry, [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), [vj](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vj.md), [broadcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadcasting.md), [labor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor.md), [power dynamics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/power-dynamics.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/24.md)

### 25. The Osbournes Production, Personal Reality Show Project (55:02–58:12)

Adam Curry discusses the production of The Osbournes and his own experience creating a reality show about his family. He emphasizes that the quality of such shows depends heavily on post-production and editing rather than the raw footage. Curry explains how he used Final Cut Pro and Firewire drives to produce his project independently, maintaining creative control over the final edit.

Keywords: the osbournes, [ozzy osbourne](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ozzy-osbourne.md), [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), [final cut pro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/final-cut-pro.md), [video production](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/video-production.md), [editing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/editing.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Computer Sleep Settings, Vintage Aviation Headphones (58:13–59:42)

The hosts discuss technical frustrations with Windows machines entering sleep mode during active downloads or Skype calls. Adam Curry then describes his use of vintage Pan Am aviation headphones from the 1960s, which he prefers over modern plastic alternatives. The segment touches on the lack of proper APIs in some applications to prevent system hibernation.

Keywords: [windows](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/windows.md), [api](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/api.md), [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md), [pan am](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pan-am.md), [headphones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/headphones.md), [aviation history](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/aviation-history.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Professional Audio Gear, Ribbon vs. Electrostatic Speakers (59:43–1:02:16)

The conversation focuses on professional audio equipment, including AKG and Koss headphones used in radio broadcasting. The hosts debate the technical differences between ribbon speakers and electrostatic elements, noting the high resolution of vintage Koss Electrostats. They invite listeners with expertise in speaker technology to provide a definitive explanation of the two systems.

Keywords: akg, koss, [headphones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/headphones.md), electrostatic speakers, ribbon speakers, [audio engineering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/audio-engineering.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Dvorak Keyboard History, Ancestry and Typing Speed (1:02:16–1:04:34)

John C. Dvorak discusses the history of the Dvorak keyboard layout, invented by August Dvorak in the 1930s, and clarifies that he has no documented relation to the inventor. The hosts talk about the Czech origins of the name and the famous composer Antonín Dvořák. Dvorak admits that despite the name association, he finds the alternative keyboard layout difficult to use.

Keywords: [dvorak keyboard](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dvorak-keyboard.md), august dvorak, typing, [ancestry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ancestry.md), [czech republic](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/czech-republic.md), [music](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/music.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Computer Input Alternatives, Automated Typewriter Promises (1:04:37–1:06:05)

The hosts lament the lack of progress in computer input technology, noting that the QWERTY keyboard remains the standard despite its inefficiencies. They discuss the difficulty of using European keyboard layouts where punctuation and letters like Z and Q are moved. The segment reflects on the unfulfilled promises of automated typewriters and voice-to-text technology envisioned in 1960s science fiction.

Keywords: keyboards, input devices, [voice recognition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/voice-recognition.md), [star trek](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/star-trek.md), [technology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/technology.md), [automation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/automation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Social Media Security, Facebook Privacy and Passwords (1:06:06–1:08:37)

The discussion turns to the lack of security consciousness among younger users on platforms like Facebook. Adam Curry describes how his daughter's workplace uses Facebook groups for scheduling, highlighting the platform's role as a modern utility. The hosts warn against the common practice of sharing passwords and the risks of using the same password across multiple e-commerce and social sites.

Keywords: [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), [social media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-media.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md), [passwords](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/passwords.md), [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), [teenagers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/teenagers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Password Honey Pots, Two-Factor Authentication Hardware (1:08:37–1:10:52)

John C. Dvorak discusses the concept of "honey pot" websites designed to harvest user passwords. The hosts advocate for more robust security measures, specifically praising physical two-factor authentication devices used by European banks. These devices require a physical card and a PIN to generate challenge strings, providing a higher level of security than standard passwords.

Keywords: [cybersecurity](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cybersecurity.md), honey pots, [two-factor authentication](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/two-factor-authentication.md), [banking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/banking.md), pin code, [encryption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/encryption.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Podcast Economics, CPM Rates and Production Costs (1:10:53–1:13:29)

The show concludes with a discussion on the economics of podcasting versus traditional broadcast television. Adam Curry explains CPM (cost per mille) rates and compares them to the "dollar a head" budget model used in network TV. The hosts sign off after a 70-minute episode, mentioning the high cost of aviation fuel and ammunition as metaphors for their production efforts.

Keywords: [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [cpm](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cpm.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), [broadcast television](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadcast-television.md), [production budget](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/production-budget.md), aviation costs

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/12-lawsuit-crazy/chapter/32.md)

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