CIS-Cast

00:00 Are they training me to be a dog? Welcome our new neighbors and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I've noticed that Woody Allen's finally been cancelled by cancelled culture. Good for them. I'm John C. Dvorak. Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Wait, Woody Allen wasn't already like super, like super cancelled?

00:39 No, he's cancelled, cancelled now. I mean his new movie, A Rainy Day in New York, will not get released in the United States. It's actually been released in Europe to good reviews. Amazon will not bring it out in the United States, they won't stream it. He's got the autobiography of Woody Allen, which has to be a fascinating book. Yeah, no, denied. The big four publishers, none of them will touch it. Did he do that himself? He's a writer. Yeah, but he did the the film about his life or is it just a written? Oh, oh well shit. No agenda press should release that Hey, we have new neighbors five minutes from from the crackpot home here. Oh

01:28 Crackpot and the Keeper? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We didn't have time to talk about it because it happened on, I think it happened on Thursday. Here's report number one. Yeah, the cleanup got underway just about an hour ago. We were able to capture some video for you, so let's go ahead and play it and show you what we saw. We saw text out crews out and about escorted by state police cleaning up the trash out here using leaf blowers and a street sweeper. Now the second part we believe will be to pack up the folks living here as the state steps steps in and frustration mounts over how the city is handling this crisis. Governor Greg Abbott warning state leaders, excuse me, city leaders to straighten things up, but now he's just stepping in. This morning, TxDOT crews will clear away the homeless encampments across town. There are a lot of them. The governor says he will not allow Austin to turn into cities like San Francisco or LA. Now, one man who I talked to who's been living under the

02:23 the same overpass, get this, for three years. He told me, you know what, I'm just gonna move to another spot because Austin is too good to give up. People come from all over the country to come to Austin because it's famous. This is a famous place to live on the street. Everybody knows, man, you wanna live on the streets, go to Austin. Why? You don't even have to buy food, everybody feeds you, they give you money, you can party. It's a blast, man. It's a blast, man. Austin's the place to be, baby. I love that they put that in that report for a mainstream report. That was fantastic. So Abbott came through and he opened up a five acre site, Southeast Austin. Then I have that report as well. John, it's five minutes from here.

03:11 I mean, it's not really walkable, but if I jumped in the car five minutes, and I got to tell you right off the bat, I'm super happy. This is a great spot for them to be. And they're already halfway to mobile loaves and fishes, a community first village. And the way it's set up with transportation and everything, this might actually work. It's been two days since the state opened up a designated camping area for the homeless. It's a temporary spot about seven acres in size, not far from the Austin airport. KVU's Darrenesha Herron is there and says people are starting to move in now. Darrenesha?

03:46 At text I just got here. They arrived not too long ago. They are putting up lights for better visibility and as for the homeless I have not seen many but the ones I did talk to they've already picked their spots. It's like perfect and then we got here. It wasn't anyone here but two guys. Michael Johnson and his friend Jose rode 13 miles on their bikes to find a safer place to call home. Wow, we don't have to talk to anyone to be here or you know, sign up. The state designated this area off of 1 83 near Montopolis as a temporary homeless camp equipped with portable restrooms and hand washing stations. We thought like, wow, we got bikes that can handle the terrain as long as it's not on the freeway, we should be able to get there. But there are questions about how other homeless will be able to get to this camp several miles from downtown. Cap Metro said Friday they will get the homeless to the camp

04:43 But they are waiting for more guidance from the state on how exactly they can help. But for Michael and Jose... We want to kind of let people know like where it says all of this with the graffiti if you can see it. Like this is where I want to be. They are in good spirits now that they're here. The only thing I was really concerned with is like will there be electricity if we're way out here. So we just said okay. But we have a plan for that too. Generators, the governor's office says troopers will be patrolling the area 24 hours a day. DPS says they will be taking a head count to find out how many people are in and out of this campsite. They say they are also in talks with organizations to find out when they will be bringing food here and as per transportation. Cap Metro says they are waiting to hear back from the

05:34 from the governor's office on when and where they can pick people up. see what's going on, talk to some people. You know the main thing the um you know the the super liberals of Austin are like well he shipped them five miles it's 12 miles from downtown and they have to bus in

06:12 What are they going to downtown for? Well, that apparently is where all the money is. But I'm thinking, the people of Austin sit in traffic for an hour to get downtown who have jobs and homes and pay taxes. So shut up already. These guys actually getting a better deal on the transportation, dedicated bus service. But I'm all for it. I think this is a great development. I'm glad you like it. I think it's the beginning of the end for the idea that we don't have shanty towns in this country. Oh, it's gonna be a shanty town. Just for context, Montopolis is my exit off of 183.

06:53 So if you turn right, you go to your house, turn left, you get there? No, you get off at Montopolis, you're there, and then you drive, you know, five minutes further and you're at my place. So to get to your house from the airport, now you have to go through a homeless encampment? No, you don't have to go through it. We looked last night, and Tina picked me up. I got in late. Oh man, I had a trip from hell, John. Yes, let's skip the rest of the homeless story which we've been talking about for endless hours. And by the way, congratulations to the Republican governor. But let's tell the story. All right. Well, you have to understand when traveling while doing this show, the most complicated window is between Thursday and the second Thursday show, also known as Sunday.

07:39 Because the show on Thursday ends at maybe really we don't hang up until 10 30 p.m My time there and then I you know still have some cleanup to do and that's 11 And then I need to eat something got it on wine So, you know really not in bed until midnight and I and it'd be non-stop this whole week So I knew I would have limited prep opportunities because Friday I had You know two more appointments, and then I was gonna have a short dinner with a buddy of mine who? Used to be a mainstream talk show guy in Holland Robert Jensa, and he under my encouragement went total you know value for value Podcast and he also has an interesting video version of it, and he's a wine nut I mean like as long as I've known him he's been into what like seared like you into wine only he

08:32 I don't know. I don't know where his level of knowledge is because I don't know anything, but he said, you know, let's have some dinner and that turned into a five-hour dinner with a total of four bottles of different wine, which I sent pictures to you because apparently they were supposed to be good. They tasted good. And of course, you know, you said, well, who else was there? And I said, no, it's just the two of us. And then you kind of went into this long, you know, non-believing state that I could drink that much alcohol. I'm maintaining my position.

09:12 What I said, what you never answered or never commented on the wines except... Yeah, I did. You said nothing to complain, but were they actually good? I mean, is there... Well, the Gigondas that they had was probably the most famous of the area. Which is that? The white wine? It looked like a couple of Grand Cru grower champagnes, which are always dynamite. He said that there's only 500 bottles of that particular champagne was ever made. That's possible. Yeah. Because generally speaking, the guys who grow, do grower champagne, which is a type of champagne where guys are growers. They're the guys who grow lots of grapes and sell them to the big boys, Bollinger and Boyd. They'll make their own special little house run. They'll make a little batch. Small batch.

09:59 small batch artisan. Believe me, they're considered artisans. And those wines are always dynamite. They're not as good as the superstar big boys, but they're about one-tenth the price of steel. So he knows how to buy cheap. Now the other, he's Dutch. And the other one I never heard of, some screwy wine, I don't even know if it was a white or red, I looked it up and it was done by some Some people that were, I don't know what the wine was. It must have been the white wine because it had this... Yeah, it was the white wine. I was unfamiliar with that wine completely and then I did a little research. I'm still unfamiliar with it. It's just some obscurity. Well, that was the one that was the most interesting to me because it had what he called it oxidation and it had this bouquet, this smell to it that was very distinct.

10:51 And she would be called Oxidized. So he served you an oxidized wine that was tasty. Well, it was one of these smells that you'll never forget, kind of like DMT. You'll never forget that smell. This one, it was, yeah, oxidation. I mean, is that, doesn't sound like that's supposed to be that way, but it was, it was delicious. I really enjoyed it. Huh, well, I don't know what he's talking about. I don't know because oxidation generally speaking terms is just a pre-precursor to turning a white to vinegar. Pre-corking. I mean, it could have been matterized, there's could have been some other, there's other things that can happen. Geraintson has a funny style of wine that creates this particular flavor that's tasty. I don't know anything about that wine or what he's talking about. Well, anyway, so that lasted much longer than I expected. So I'm like, oh crap. And of course I had to get up at 6.30 to catch the flight home.

11:49 And so I'm back at the hotel, I'm like, alright, I'm tired and I turn on the TV, see what else is going on. The only news I got was that, you know, the black Pete Sinterklaas arrived and of course we have this same controversy we've had for eight years now about the black Pete's. And so all the different local stations were reporting in because you'll recall that in order to move away from the obvious intentional racism of the black Pete's with the white Sinterklaas coming from Spain to bring the children gifts, they decided to go to the soot Pete, which would mean his face would only be somewhat blackened because he went down the chimney or so he had soot.

12:32 And it turns out the ratio of soot peat to black peat was quite low, probably only about 10%, but all of the local stations reporting mentioned that this was the transition year, as black peat is transitioning from black to soot peat. And I'm sure we'll hear, I'll probably read some stuff today if there were any protests and demonstrations about this fine children's holiday. Tradition. So I wake up at, actually I got a text message in the middle of the night and it was something about delayed, whatever, I'm like I'll deal with it and I wake up at 6.30 and my flight was supposed to leave at 10.20, it was delayed until 2.30.

13:17 Four hours. Yeah, this is a real problem because you know I also it's not flying direct They got to go via Houston, so I'm gonna miss a connection So they're rebooking me time after time. It's just the whole thing is a nightmare You know so I don't have much time to you know I'm just standing in line and doing bullcrap So you know how can I prep not really get on the plane now you can do some prep on the plane But you can't clip videos We have to load a Wi-Fi. Well, that's what no there was Wi-Fi and United but you got to wait for the you know, the videos don't play very well You have to you know, start the video pause it wait for it to load so you can't really clip from that and then on arrival Holy crap Houston, but you had the ghost thing, you know, it goes to whatever that thing you have you can go right through well So that that's part one I go to the global entry and

14:10 And despite that other producers who are in the same boat as I say there's a grace period, there's a grace period of six months because they had to move a lot of custom border patrol agents down to the border so they didn't have enough manpower to do the interviews. No, none of that is true in my case. I look in the camera, I put down my passport immediately. Your global entry has expired." I'm like, okay. So then I go through the normal line, which actually, I'd say move quite fast. Then of course you wait forever to get your suitcase, because you have to declare your luggage before you can, you know, then you have to recheck it.

14:57 But then here's the thing that's bothersome. Then you have to go through a series of security checks and Houston had something that I'd never witnessed in my life. So, you've gone through customs, you have your bag, then you walk out the door and there's always a couple agents there looking at you, seeing if you twitch, which always makes me twitch. And they had a dog, a beagle, and the beagle's sniffing away, so there's no problem. But then we had to go through another one of those, you know, like the Disneyland line that, you know, snakes you around back and forth and back and forth until you got to the end. And it was double as wide as the line itself, which is really only meant for, you know, two people close together.

15:44 And they were yelling at people, alright stand next to each other, one by one, next to each other, two people at a time. And you know this wife and her husband in front of me, I think they may have been traveling with a friend and so the wife lines up with whoever she was with and then everyone's confused and I'm like well I guess that's us buddy and so he and I stand next to each other and then imagine this path maybe... Wait wait and then you're shot dead. That's what you'd expect. There's this path of... I wonder cattle get so nervous. That's exactly what it felt like. But then, so there's a dog at the kind of halfway of this pathway, let's say it's 30 feet, and on the floor in front of us are two sets of paw prints. And we have to follow the paw prints past the dog. And what was going on with this?

16:35 Are they training me to be a dog? Why did it have to be side by... I wasn't gonna ask, because these... First of all, I'm tired. They're not taking any shit from anybody. But it was the oddest thing. Why would I have to partner with someone, walk lockstep at the same time, past the dog, following the green hoof prints on the floor? I'd really like to know what that was about. And then, of course, you get pushed right into another one. Because Arab terrorists hate dogs. I got too many time quotes to clip here for you today. It was the oddest thing and and then you know then we went through another horrible winding multi-laned you know cattle yeah it's the cattle shoots exactly what it is and I just I mean my bags of course always getting pulled open everything out everything in swab everything because I got the whole studio with me so you know they're always trying to catch me on a

17:37 Having a vibrator in my bag. That's what they think the mic looks. They're always so they're all jitty when they see my bag We're gonna get this guy now. What's this sir? And then you know finally I didn't get and get to bed until midnight and Got up at 530 and and then of course had to build up the studio Which I didn't couldn't do last night. It's and when you're groggy man. You'll forget a wire easily and So your GOES thing, yes I would assume so, your GOES thing didn't work, global entry or whatever it's called. Global entry system, yeah, that didn't work. But the dog paw print next to each other thing was puzzling and concerning.

18:26 Yeah, I would like to get an explanation. We have people that work in that division of the government. They can explain it to us. What the hell's going on with this? Why is it dog prints? Why do you have to be side by side? How does that make things any better? It was just to make sense puzzling. I don't like traveling anymore There's a lot of reasons not to like traveling Joe. I know but another reason it just is one thing after another yeah I mean it used to be a lot of fun to travel, but now it's like it's well You know 50 years ago right, but now it's just a it's a nightmare. Yeah, I

19:02 I mean, yeah, when you're there, you get to accomplish something or other, maybe, maybe not. You can do things remotely now. But the process is the problem. And they're doing nothing to alleviate. They're making their planes tighter. They're moving the seats together. They had to get a law passed to make the seats far enough apart so you could actually sit in these things. They keep talking about having you, stand up in the plane for the whole flight and strap you in. Yeah, we've seen this. That way you can jam more people in the plane like you're locked in. They're seriously considering these things. This is how much they care about your travel experience. No, they clearly don't. Clearly don't. So anyway, we're back and I'm happy to be back. It's nice to be home, especially with the new neighbors. So this is all good. Bring them an apple pie.

19:51 When you started that segment, I thought you were gonna say that Matthew McConaughey moved next door. He's in town. Right next to Jennifer Aniston and Sandy Bullock and yeah. No, no celebrities. When it comes to celebrities in Austin, I'm it. That's it. I'm it. Old MTV guy. No one else lives here. They just pretend to look hip. Well, like the hobo said, it's the greatest place in the world. It's a party, man! Why wouldn't you want to come to Austin? Oh boy, but yes. Why don't we go on? No, no, go ahead. I mean, I was going to change topics. I guess I have a few clips that I should go with some local news around here. Yeah, sure. Ben Shapiro was at Stanford.

20:39 Oh boy, did he get boycotted? Well, they booed him and they tried, they did, he managed to speak. And even though they had people outside yelling, hey ho, hi ho, hey, whatever it is again, hey ho, hi ho, Ben Shapiro's got to go, hey hey, ho ho, Ben Shapiro's got to go, hey hey, ho ho. Yeah, they had that going on outside. And meanwhile, his whole speech was about The alt-right being a bunch of Nazis. They're telling him to go. It was some irony there. Of course. Shapiro had a guy, it got a clip.

21:19 I'll play the kicker clip first. This was a short little, the guy comes up with a question. Shapiro, by the way, appreciated what you're gonna hear. This is Ben Shapiro question with the kicker. So one of my, my question is, have you been keeping up with what's going on with Roger Stone and what your thoughts and your thoughts on maybe some of the jurors or the judge that might be going against him? So to be honest with you, I haven't followed. Also Epstein didn't kill himself. Did I predict that this would go nuts or what? This is totally out of control. Wait, hold on. I mean, if we're gonna do it, let me do a couple. And you might just let me do two and then we'll get back to... No, you can do as many as you want. But I want to mention something. You did predict this. You totally predicted this. But you didn't add the little, the observation that this is the modern version of a Rick roll.

22:12 Well, no, we talked about it being Baba Booey, which is is you're right. I consider of a Rick roll because Baba Booey is for a pretty you're right. Well, what what is cool is that and I encourage everybody to do this now is just too tired to do it for no agenda. Although I will do it today the weather app. Someone sent me a screenshot. You know, sometimes the app will fail if you don't have a connection or if it can't connect. And so it says here, this is New York, New York, 51 degrees, feels like 51. Win six Southwest I was going to fetch you some weather, but then I remembered Epstein didn't kill himself This is what this everyone's 404 page not found should be that should be a great idea Dean didn't kill himself great idea It's it's too funny, and here's a MSNBC, but by the way. It's a great idea for the next few months then It'll be over. It'll be over. It's MSNBC asking some students in Alabama

23:10 about the elections and I think this particular one was asked about Trump's policies. And I want to turn here to Parker as well. The three of you told me you voted for the president in 2016, you're supporters of his. Why do you like him so much and what policies stand out to you in his support? I would say mainly just the no-nonsense policies and especially since Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. That's awesome. Yeah. Takes the reporter a second to figure out what because you know reporter isn't actually listening to what the people say when they ask him questions No, she's like yeah, especially since everything himself is you even did that you Rick rolled me with that in that whole wine email thread which I thought was pretty funny I Did that was pretty good. All right anyway back to Ben Shapiro

24:02 Yeah, Ben Shapiro. So I just thought this was a very interesting observation because it's something we kind of lose sight of. He's describing the difference between the left and the alt-right and how they're just kind of upside down mirror images of each other. And then there goes his effort, by the way. I'm here to do it in real time. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight cars. Good. Okay. That's better. The economy is stable. So he's, and it's something we, when he, his conclusion to this is something we kind of lose sight of when we're making, talking about the left or the alt-right or anybody in between. He's not a fan of the alt-right. And this is his little discussion and his point. And I think it's something we have to kind of, all of us kind of have to remember. Political correctness is a weapon for the left, but it's also a weapon for the alt-right.

24:55 However, Professor Steven Pinker, who the left tried to cancel for saying this, made this clear last year. He was saying that political correctness is a way for the left to shut down debate. By shutting down debate, they actually open the door to the alt-right because they say you can't ask certain questions. Then the questions get asked, they shut it down, and people go, wait, I'll just look online for the answer, and the first answer they find might be something from an alt-right website, and they start to take it more seriously. This is something Steven Pinker said? So the left called him alt-right and shut him down. There is something that's the most nefarious of all when it comes to these sort of de facto playing off each other political lines between the far left and the alt-right. And that is that they actually mirror themselves in politics and culture. They both have an identity politics view. As I said, the left's view of American politics is that Americans can be identified by group.

25:34 Americans are black or Hispanic or white or green or Jewish or lesbian or in the best of all possible worlds a half Native American, half black little person who is gender fluid. If you're on the left, you don't describe people by their belief system or by what they do, you describe them by their attributes. You describe them by group attributes. And they have a whole intersectional hierarchy deciding how victimized you are based on how many of these boxes you check. The only difference between the left and the alt-right is that they reverse the hierarchy. Meaning that the left thinks that hierarchy is bad, right? They create this hierarchy where white people are the most powerful, and then progressively you go all the way down to the bottom and you get to the LGBT people, and those are the people who are the least powerful according to this hierarchy. And they say that hierarchy is bad, we should just flip the hierarchy. And then you have the alt-right and they say, no, no, no, the hierarchy is good, and we should keep the hierarchy the way that it is. And then there's all the rest of us who are like, what hierarchy? There shouldn't be a hierarchy. What the hell are you talking about? We're individuals. We live in a free country.

26:29 Just want to play a jingle never get to play the alt-right jingles anymore. Yeah, he makes a very valid point Yeah, it's something you just kind of you kind of start to forget about with all these These arguments and debates going on and we live in a free country What hierarchy what are we talking about here exactly? Oh So, you know, the thing is, you know, we tried to play Ben Shapiro's clips. I remember I had one of the first ones. It was years and years ago. And you hated him. And you didn't want the clips. And then you started playing some of his, and I don't like, I don't like his speed talking. No, no, no. It really needs to be... It's horrible.

27:13 It's gotta be cut by about, I think if you go a .8x. Then you're kind of in the strike zone. You might get into the point where you can understand it, but you have to be, it is a way to glue your attention, because you won't hear a word he says if you're not kind of clued in, but I have to admire the guy for the career he's made out of himself, despite the fact that he went to UCLA. For the identity politics, which of course is what the Democrats are doing this cycle, and I guess everyone does it all the time, but it's pretty obvious. You know, the thing that I've been talking about with Mo is that I think all the Democrats know that they need the black vote, and we've studied long enough

27:57 here on the show, that you know they're going after black women and they're the ones that they're going to activate as it's called. They're activating the black women. So how are they going to activate them? Well the first thing you need to do is make sure you get all black women. And all black women, you know, that means that's women WMXN. I'm not kidding. WMXN. Because if you do all black women, that also includes the black trans women and the black cis women and they're being activated. Despite pervasive attacks on our communities, our identities, and our lives, black trans and cis women, fems,

28:40 Gender non-conforming and non-binary vote remain at the forefront of each and every social movement to hold this country accountable. We are progressive black leaders who are not impressed by political theater. We know that big things happen when black women come together and take our own space in the political process. And though no one person could hold all our aspirations and the hopes for a president, There is one leader who we believe will work with us. That candidate is Senator Elizabeth Warren. She has a track record of taking on the predatory policies that harm our communities.

29:19 We've come together as a collective voice, and we hope to encourage others, especially black women and gender non-conforming folks, to join us. We are all in for Warren. And if you are too, go to blackwomenfor.org, sign the endorsement statement, and join us. There you go. Liz Warren, who says black trans women are the backbone of our democracy. I wish I had a clue that's news to me. Well, she tweeted that I wish I had a clip of it, but she tweeted that but yeah, so this is this is the group that's being activated for Elizabeth Warren, but we need to stay with the obvious identity politics helped by the Democrat Party's mainstream media helpers who are bountiful

30:05 The top of the list would be Chuck Todd of the Chuck Todd cast on MSNBC. Someone sent me this clip and I'm listening to it and like... Does anyone else maybe it's just me but what this guy is about yeah, I don't need that affirmation from you This guy this is the most one of the most racist things I've heard guns and climate. I'm sorry they're talking about Michael Bloomberg supposedly just supposedly jumping into the race so Let's look at the plus the pros and the cons guns and climate who's to his left. I

30:44 Well, Beto was to his left on guns, but he's not going to be a factor any longer. Also the governor of Washington. Bloomberg has embraced the Green New Deal. I don't think he's embraced that. I agree. That's one area where he actually is more to the center than she is. In the smoke-filled room, you'd say, on paper, Bloomberg has the right balance of what you want to win a broad election, maybe not a deep election, but if you're trying to win the suburban, the ex-suburban Republican, which by the way Michael Bloomberg's an ex-suburban, arguably an ex-urban Republican, and at the same time you care about these core progressive issues like guns and climate,

31:25 It ain't just somebody buying an election. I'm trying to think of Michael Bloomberg as the nominee in Western Pennsylvania. I know what you're thinking. The suburbs of Michigan, Michigan suburbs, the Ohio suburbs, the Wisconsin suburbs. By the way, there's only one runny mate for him. It's the same runny mate Joe Biden has to pick and it's the same runny mate Pete Buttigieg has to pick. It's Stacey Abrams, by the way. There's nobody else that Bloomberg can match up with if he's someone who got this nomination than Stacey Abrams. Why? I think he has to have a person of color. Huh? I think he needs a diversity on the ticket, person of color, no? Now, when Chuck Todd says it like this, you need a person of color on the ticket, excuse me, is that not the definition of a token black? Is that exactly what he's saying? Pretty much. What do you expect from Chuck? He looks like a racist. He does have kind of that scruff Nazi look, doesn't he?

32:24 Get that short haircut, the whole thing. Yeah, I was just kind of like, wow, man. It's got to be a person of color. It's got to be one. It's got to be a person of color. How could you even think differently? Yes. Well, first of all, play the Bloomberg announcement on the way Democracy Now thought of it. This is Bloomberg on Democracy Now. The billionaire former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is reportedly preparing to jump into the 2020 presidential race. The New York Times reports Bloomberg has sent staffers to Alabama to gather signatures in order to qualify him for the primary. His possible 2020 bid comes as he's reportedly skeptical that former Vice President Joe Biden can beat out his progressive challengers, Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren and Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, in the Democratic primary.

33:17 You know, it helps if you plug both those channels in. What the hell was that? I was going to talk about that. So Democracy Now decided to do a remote. I'm already there. Yum. Do tell. They're at some, I think they're in South Carolina, there's some Green New Deal convention. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Sandy was there. Sandy was there with Bernie and yeah, it was a big deal. They were there live and they had a ground loop the entire show. On stage too? Throughout the microphone? The amp? No, they had like a little studio. The funny thing was when they went to their clips, which they did, the ground loop was gone. It was gone, yeah. So it was a mic. It was a mic ground loop.

34:05 And so this was live on the sick because I see this is buzzing Nice amateur hour, that's really where I saw it, but it's in there all the clips I have from democracy now all of them have that huh well except for when they cut to really cut to a package and Yeah, they're all buzzy. I knew you were gonna give me grief, but it was not me. You just said they all buzzy. They all buzzy. So, uh, use that as a show title. They all buzzy. I love it. They all buzzy, bro. Yeah. So Bloomberg, the way they see it is Bloomberg is like a right winger. Oh no, they hate him. They hate him. This will not stand.

34:50 No, no, everyone hates him. In fact, in California we now are hating him. All the anti-jewel commercials that were part of this scheme that you've uncovered that nobody else seemed to notice, all the anti-jewel commercials, and there's tons of them because there's some law they're trying to pass to back off on something. All, right at the bottom, in big letters, not like a little bitty thing at the bottom, big giant letters. sponsored by Michael Bloomberg. Oh yeah. Ads in California about, you know, the guy is, he's the guy who wouldn't let you have a big cup of soda. I mean this guy's poor. Well, it's worse. It was the guy who wouldn't let poor people have a sugary drink because poor people drink shitty ass sugary drinks. But rich people could have all the nasty saps that are filled with sugars and, you know, huge

35:37 sugar-based flavored coffees to their hearts extent... extent? Extent. Extent. Their hearts desire. There you go. That's better. It's even better. Yeah. Well, the point is this guy hasn't... this guy's got no legs. Well, what we need to do is we need to... Oh, that's why it's so short. Ah! And here comes Trump's nickname for Michael Bloomberg. There is nobody I'd rather run against than little Michael. That I can say. Little Michael. 2008 pregnancy bias lawsuit, the 72 moms versus Bloomberg. This was 72 current and former female employees who were pregnant while became pregnant while working at Bloomberg.

36:25 his financial service company, claim the company discriminated against them by decreasing their pay, demoting them and excluding them from other employment opportunities after they became pregnant. And this is from ABC News. One complaint alleges that a Bloomberg senior executive upon hearing that two of his female executives had become pregnant remarked, I'm not having any pregnant bitches working for me. and instructed another executive to terminate them. And then, you know, and apparently the culture was saying things like, oh, you're not committed. You don't want to be here because you got pregnant. It was a huge scandal. But, you know, it was 11 years ago. But I think they should do some digging, don't you? Oh, yeah. No, if he gets anywhere, they're going to start doing some digging. I mean, I was I mean, they get Tulsi back up there. She'll blast. Right. I was looking at

37:18 I mean, there's a Medium article written by someone who's, I guess, is read a lot over there, a Democrat. And, just, they hate him. Hate him! Why would we elect this other white, cis, mill, billionaire? And then, oh, was it De Niro? I think I have it here. Where is that? He's a pig. Nah, it was even better than that. Where did my De Niro go? Hold on a second. Well, that's... Huh? Did I lose that clip? Oh man, it was a good clip too. I demand to hear it on the next show. Ah shoot. It had to be with Joy Reid. Hold on, let me see. This will not stand. You may just have it mislabeled. I got it. Yes, I got it. Poorly labeled. I got it. This is De Niro bitching about Trump, bitching about Giuliani on MSNBC Joy Reid's show, of course.

38:18 And this was sent to me as the quintessential example of, wat je zegt ben jezelf met je kop door de helft. I.e. the Dutch proverb, you are what you excuse others of being. But Trump's not a billionaire, he's a fake president. He calls everything else fake because he knows he's fake. a Bloomberg who's worth I think over 50 billion or maybe a lot more and this guy he says he's worth three something billion we don't even know if he had he's just a total huckster he's a hustler yeah and he's and I think one of the things that I like joy yeah yeah totally I agree Mike's got 50 billion this guy's a huckster I guess I guess you need to be a billionaire now according to De Niro to become president so he's a hustler

39:17 Yeah, and he's I think one of the things that angers him probably the most is that people like you people from having which he craves to be a part of your world he craves to be part of the world of the you know of the famous of the of the people that are actors or I love how this Joy Reid is just making this up. This is her opinion that he just craves that. Athletes, he wants to be a part of your world and the rejection from people like you I think is one of the thing that bugs him the most. How could you not want? I mean when I was in New York before, you know, before he was doing all this stuff, I never even wanted to have anything to do with him. I mean I heard he's around, he wants to take a picture. I don't want to take a picture. I have nothing to do with him. He's a fool. Everybody knew that. But, I mean now he'd call up the tabloids and say he's the agent. He'd call up Forbes magazine. That's crazy.

40:05 Oh, that never happens in Hollywood. And people bought it. Yeah, absolutely. Last question before I go to the movie. What do you make of Giuliani? I think he lost his mind. I think he's, what a shame because he had something going and then he just prostituted himself to work with Trump. I mean, guys are How could he do that? I have no understanding of how he could he was a guy who used to prosecute people With the RICO Act and so on and now he's part of a criminal family. It's you know, he's the Tom Hagen Tom Hagen nice reference to the Godfather Yeah, I mean, what did De Niro actually say there? You know, he's just spouting about how much he hates him and nobody liked him and we always thought he was a fool and... And he clearly wants to be part of my world. I don't think so. No, I don't think so either. That's what De Niro thinks. Ay yi yi yi yi yi. He's just nuts.

41:04 Well, yeah, that's definitely all too well. I caught this, Helen Mirren, this is actually a very good exercise. I'm happy that Stephen Colbert did this because it showed you immediately the fallacy of this Ukraine impeachment bullcrap. So we had Helen Mirren and Ian McKellen, I think they have a movie together, Irishman? No, no, that's De Niro's movie. They have a movie together. There's always a movie. There's always a movie they got there together. And so they come out and they're promoting

41:41 their movie and Colbert then has this genius idea since you know Trump has said that you know you got to read the transcript because if you don't read the transcript then you know you'd have no context you don't understand it was a it was a beautiful look phone call it was a it was a perfect perfect phone call everything could not have been more perfect it was just beautiful and so I will just read to you this is what makes it interesting and I'm reading the actual PDF The only lines that matter for this this gambit that Colbert did we are ready to this is the Zelensky the Ukrainian president we are ready to continue to cooperate for the next step specifically We are almost ready to buy more javelins from the United States for defense purposes And then the president says I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it I would like

42:33 you to find out what happened with this whole situation, the situation with Ukraine. They say crowd strike. I guess you have one of your wealthy people, the server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. And so, you know, nothing about Biden in this whole paragraph. And he winds up by saying, whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible. And then Zelensky, and then, you know, the Biden thing comes up way down at the bottom. So, but that's the piece that they're going to reenact. where Trump asks for this favor for Ukraine, information about CrowdStrike, nothing about the Bidens, yet here's how it's presented on television. Donald Trump, you may have heard, released a transcript of him essentially extorting the Ukrainian president saying we'll give you military aid unless... I have read the transcript, unlike you, Graham. Exactly. Unless you launch the investigation into the Bidens. Now he says... It's very clear what he just said.

43:34 He said Trump is asking for a favor for him to launch the investigation on the Bidens, which is in the literal transcript not true. The favor is asked about CrowdStrike, Ukraine, the server, the corruption going on in Ukraine. Say what? No, I'm listening to her going, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're kind of agreeing with each other. And she's like acting the fool. Yeah. Now he says it's a perfect phone call, perfectly innocent. And he wants to read it on air in a fireside chat. And he thinks that when he reads it out loud, it'll suddenly seem so innocent that you won't want him removed from office. And since I have two of the greatest living actors right here, I was wondering.

44:29 I will be the judge but whether you're innocent or guilty after you read the line. Let me set the scene. We'll go back and forth here. Okay, let me set the scene. The scene is you're on the phone with the Ukrainian president. His country's been invaded by the Russians. You've got the military aid he needs, but you're not going to give it to him. Notice what he's saying here. His country's been invaded by the Russians. Trump has the military aid that you need a bunch of javelins, okay? I mean this is unbelievable You're on the phone with Ukrainian president his country's been invaded by the Russians You've got the military aid he needs but you're not gonna give it to him I guess Russia's out now now that he got the military aid must be over unless you get the pro quo back

45:24 This is what you say after he says I would like the javelin missiles Helen if you would try this um Actually, actually what did what the guy said was we are almost ready to buy more javelins from the United States for defense purposes President his country's been invaded by the Russians. You've got the military aid he needs but you're not gonna give it to him unless you get the pro quo back and This is what you say after he says, I would like the javelin missiles, Helen. If you would try this, um, uh, casually. Zelensky, I'd like you to do us a favor though. Guilty. Ian. I'd like you to do us a favor though. And he holds his fingers up like a gun.

46:24 Now officially they should, you know what? Academy Awards, BAFTAs should all be rescinded. They're horrible actors. Guilty! Guilty! Helen, could you try happy? Would you try happy? I would like the javelin missiles please. I'd like you to do us a favor though. I mean and they just go on and on and the whole thing is based on a bullshit lie it's not even from the transcript so oh whoa I can't wait to hear Trump reads that line

47:04 I mean, wow. It's hard to watch the Colbert show because it's so full of shit. I mean, but it's does he even know that that's just not what the transcript says? I don't care if anyone reads the transcript. I don't care if Trump gets impeached or not. I don't care. But the comedy, the writers in the back room are dreaming these skits up and they're thinking some funny ideas of what we should do. Well, it's not the... If any writer back there is going, well, this is not exactly what happened, they would be excoriated, say, so what? That's not the point. We're trying to get a laugh here. Well, that's true. But it does affect the public discourse and it's very irresponsible as far as I'm concerned. There's plenty of ways to get a laugh, there's plenty of jokes out there, writers can write good material, they don't have to lie to the public and mislead people. It's just shameful. But it's just us. Yeah, maybe. Let's just stick with 2020.

48:09 Sandy was shilling for Bernie on the aforementioned... what was that? The... The climate change? The event down in South Carolina, wherever it was. Right, right, right, right. With the ground loop buzz. Well, they didn't have the ground loop buzz on AOC. Now, AOC dressed in a very interesting outfit, just from a television and stage perspective. A long green dress about calf high, so under the, well below the knees. with browns with no black stockings or whatever they were and black shoes

48:51 And it was a very, this was a different outfit for her. And it was green of course, which I guess was for the Green New Deal. But then when she, it had kind of this flowy motion and then she went into this whole thing about politicians which she repeated later on stage or maybe it was earlier at a Bernie rally. But this was a much better version. She's just talking about how heartbreaking it is when politicians lie to you. And so when you elect a politician, Then they let you down. It feels like rejection. It feels like heartbreak It feels like betrayal and it feels like I never want to love again That's what that's like. And so I Never want to love again. Hold on. Here we go. It feels like I never want to live in the day, by the way Well, let's play the whole thing and it feels like I never want to love again That's what that feels like

49:47 And so I understand how that feels because I felt that way. But you know what happens when you say, I never want to love again? Your heart gets black and you turn angry and you get very anxious. I'm gonna take my clip of the day. I'm gonna take it. Thank you, Sandy. Thank you, Sandy. I sit and wonder why, oh why you left me. Oh, Sandy. Yes, Sandy. That's our new tune. Whenever we play a good AOC clip like that.

50:33 That is the funniest clip for a while. Can you believe that? Yeah. It just tickles me. That dress looked expensive to me. All her stuff is very, it's haute couture man. It's not off the rack. She's got good stuff. Definitely getting some good stuff. Well, she's got the right figure for it. She can look good in it, you know, hangs there. Get some good kudos from the get some plugs for the labels. Yeah, yeah I wonder do they do profile have to look at some of the fashion mag see how much they highlight her and what she's wearing I know that they just beginning it'll once they figure this out that they can oh, yeah Oh, she's perfect with loners. You know she's all owners of course. It's loners. Yeah, yeah, you wouldn't wear the same dress twice now

51:20 Can you imagine that would be crazy like Judy Woodruff who seems to have been pushed off or she's maybe she's on vacation, but I haven't seen her really no hmm interesting They got some dour woman out doing the show younger not one of the regulars just a new new No, they get two new two or three new people on there that are just there all the time now I think they've done a revamp now you you mentioned this in the in the newsletter and The the big Greta head in San Francisco. Oh, yeah the big mural I figured unless you have one I have I think it's a local report But I thought it was rather interesting and it's it kind of contrast your comments which were What the heck we could have had so many giant heads Of so many interesting about what you put a big head of this girl on there for she's never even been to San Francisco as far as I know

52:10 Yeah, I don't even know if she has, no. Well, we would have known if she'd been to San Francisco because she'd have the key to the city hanging around her neck. Or more, the poop to the city. You are looking at the newest addition to the San Francisco skyline. A mural designed to draw attention to climate change. High above Mason Street. Ten stories up on the side of the Native Sons building near Union Square, Andres Petroselli, an internationally renowned artist who goes by Colbre, is painting a teenage girl with big blue eyes and a Mona Lisa smile. It's a mural of Greta Thunberg. She's the 16-year-old from Sweden who has inspired young people all over the world to take to the streets and let older people know they want climate change to be taken seriously.

52:58 What I want people to realize is that we have to do something for the world, otherwise this is the beginning of our extinction. Cobre says his paintings often provoke reactions. This one is a little bit more political in some kind of way because I want them to think about it, to create conversations with their friends and everything. Have you seen the mural of Greta? What is that about? About climate change. Cobre is donating his time for this cause. The environmental non-profit One App. Sorry? I don't believe that for a minute. What? That he's donating it? Yeah. No, I don't either. I mean, you have to get permits even if you're going to do this kind of stuff. It's not that simple. It's got to be a city initiative, I think.

53:38 Could be an NGO. Have you seen the mural of Greta? What is that about? About climate change? Cobra is donating his time for this cause. The environmental non-profit One Atmosphere is buying the paint. You hit people with public art and it hits them in the heart. Hoping people will be inspired not just to gawk, but to act. She's a child. At the end of the day, it's a child that's telling us what to do. I hope that people are touched by this image and that they understand the innocence and the strength and the power of her message. And it really helps people to bring about some change in their own lives and also get involved politically and bring about changes at a national and international level. The Greta mural is expected to be completed by early next week. There you go. It's an eyesore. Now if they did the No Agenda album art, it would be cool. That would be great on the side of a building.

54:31 The Greta Duberg. It would be better, it would be less of an eyesore, that's for sure. So there's this book that came out. Oh, the anonymous book. The anonymous book. Yes, yes, I'm glad you're covering this. And so the thing is, who the hell wrote this book? Steve Pachenik says he knows. Oh really? Is this the Pachenik clip? This is the knob before you play it. Yeah, I want to say the can I just say you're walking all over my beat. Yeah, you were on the road. That's true. Pachinko was visibly shaken. Oh,

55:10 Extremely nervous. I haven't seen this one yet. So he was stammering. He was making errors in his sentence structures He was not happy about having to reveal this guy Wow And he believes that that dead Bolton was the guy who is anonymous which makes nothing but sense to me That's some backup clips talking about this this this book, but let's play the pachinko clip first. Hi, this is dr. Pachinko today I want to talk about John Bolton, the Benedict Arnold of America. Now, why do I say that? Why? A book came out that was written by Anonymous, and it's written about the Trump administration and how childish they are, how pure they are, and how ineffective they are. In fact, John Bolton calls the president a 12-year-old but doesn't know what his mental condition is.

55:57 I happen to know John Bolton and I think he's a sociopath. But as an intelligence operative, what I did was to create agitation propaganda. I purposely created a proposal for my own book, which will come out in a few weeks, which talks about the real Jack Ryan and the person who really implemented a lot of the coups and counter-coups in this administration. Now I'm doing another coup. What I'm trying to do is to get John Bolton blown out of the water because he came in as an anonymous writer. And how did I figure that out? Number one, the passages that came out and were written in the New York Times and Washington Post said the following, thanks to our great 9-11 situation, we have gone into now a puerile situation or self-destructive situation. In other words, what John had written and the only person who could write that was somebody deeply involved in 9-11. When I wrote my proposal and presented it,

56:55 to Hachette, and I'll talk about Hachette in a minute, they turned me down immediately because they knew that the history of the real Jack Ryan was involved in breaking up the 9-11 coup. Now, let me say to you how this came about. John Bolton's figure and personality fits what we call in the intelligence world MICE. M standing for money, I for ideology, C for cash or for compromise, and E for ego. John needs the money. He's ideologically always been a neocon. See, he's always been compromised by someone or an institution, in this case Yale, where he went to Yale and worked with Bob Woodward and John Kerry who are now on ABC News and NBC News.

57:44 And the last one was ego. His ego is immense. Carl Ford, one of my intelligence operatives, said correctly that John needed to always suck up to the superior and always deprecate the bottom. What was that acronym he had? MICE. Money, something, compromise, and ego. And he certainly fits the bill. By the way, the book he's talking about, I've read parts of Pachenik's book. It's fantastic. He is the real Jack Ryan.

58:21 It's a fantastic book. Well, in this case, this book, A Warning by Anonymous, which is highlighted coincidentally in the New York Times in their book review. Of course, as one does. I read the Times headline, a book review, in a warning, anonymous author makes a case against re-election. And so I was thinking, it makes a lot of sense that it was Bolton who wrote the anonymous piece, because he was fired shortly thereafter, somebody either got wind of it. Guys, and in certain circles you can find out who these people are. There's some publishing circles I know for a fact who it was. And Pachanik's got a bunch of old contacts, old timers,

59:04 It's a gossip ring and so they could find out who yeah, and he has been actively Pitching I know because I spoke to him before I left He has been actively pitching his book to all the big the big publishers So I'm sure that he was talking to people and got enough to to put it all together right there. Yes, absolutely I think there's any doubt about but let's listen to some some Bolton related rundowns that I picked up. Here's one from CBSN. This is the Bolton to testify rundown. I want to bring in Siobhan Hughes. She's a Capitol Hill reporter for The Wall Street Journal and joins us now. So Siobhan, thank you for joining us. You know, a lawyer for John Bolton says that his client has new information on these meetings with Ukraine. Bolton, of course, is a former national security advisor. I'm curious what your sources are telling you about the type of information Bolton might have.

59:53 So, we don't know exactly what John Bolton knows, but what we do know is that he was well positioned to have a type of access that none of the witnesses has so far had. As the national security advisor, John Bolton was essentially Donald Trump's right-hand man on national security issues, would have been in the room with him. in the room with other key players like Mick Mulvaney, Gordon Sondland. Mr. Bolton has a reputation for being very direct, very forthcoming. Even Democrats say that if they don't always agree with his politics, they can trust his information. Yeah, I did catch some of this when I was watching some of the TV, even in European news, although not a lot about Trump at all, as I mentioned previously.

1:00:36 Lot of people like oh, we call Bolton. Yeah, we can't bow and a bolt and does he he doesn't want to but we're gonna have to get him to testify He's the guy he can bring him down Bolton is gonna bring him down Yeah, yeah, yeah Bolton's a bad guy. I mean nobody liked him to begin with me You listen to the right-wing talkers none of these guys Could figure out how bolt even did then in the end. Here's the question they asked Pacheco. Okay, I Which is how did Bolton get his job in the White House to begin with who put him in there? Which one of the stooges that was it Mattis was it the guy before him right? I'll ask him I'd like to know because there's no because all the right-wing talkers pretty much say the same thing How did Bolton get in here? He's a he's a neocon which goes against everything that Trump was running on you know He hated all these neocons and he puts a neocon in as his national security advisor. Why mm-hmm?

1:01:31 So that bone gets in there and he's just trying to be us and patina was not happy about Bolton being in there He from day one. He was like get that guy out that guy's got to get fired So so Bolton, you know becomes this anonymous characters makes nothing but sense. But what is the second clip? This is excerpts from the anonymous book of On Democracy Now with our with our with our with our ground loop. A midnight self-massacre. That was the plan hatched by some senior Trump administration officials who considered resigning en masse last year to sound the alarm about Trump's conduct. They ultimately rejected the idea over concerns it would further destabilize the government.

1:02:16 The aborted warning is one of a series of revelations in a forthcoming book titled A Warning. Its author is an anonymous senior official within the Trump administration who published an anonymous op-ed in the New York Times last year headlined, I am part of the resistance inside the Trump administration. In the book, the author describes senior officials waking up and trying to respond to Trump's overnight Twitter announcements, writing, quote, it's like showing up at the nursing home at daybreak to find your elderly uncle running pantsless, across the courtyard and cursing loudly about the cafeteria food as worried attendants tried to catch him. Ageism. You're stunned, amused, and embarrassed all at the same time. Only your uncle probably wouldn't do it every single day. His words aren't broadcast to the public and he doesn't have to lead the US government once he puts his pants on, unquote.

1:03:13 The author also claims Trump once asked White House lawyers to write a bill to send to Congress aimed at reducing the number of federal judges after various judges had thwarted Trump's policies. Trump reportedly said, quote, can we just get rid of the judges? Let's get rid of the expletive judges. There shouldn't be any at all. Really, he said that this, according to the forthcoming book, a warning. Hey, that hum is fantastic. I mean, it's almost a format. We need to have some hum on our own show. I can't even make hum anymore. I don't think it's all digital. I don't know how they do it. I'm driving around yesterday with Mimi and I pointed out to her because I've got a bunch of college stations and I pointed this out and this is something that people should, podcasters maybe we should consider this.

1:04:06 I'm listening to KALX, the local Cal station, or at Berkeley, and the woman's doing a bunch of music, but she has a very low musical bed underneath her when she's talking, just announcing, just a little music going on. And I've noticed, and I used this trick once, I was doing a weekend at one of the stations around here, and I heard this years earlier. Hot Rockin' Johnny C, everybody, how you doin'? It was a talk show. Rockin' the bay. And it was, I heard a bed underneath some guy who's doing a show and it was, I still think it's fabulous to listen to. It was just a bunch of bubbling. It's like a little boiling pot. Oh, you know, Nick the Rat has a cauldron type thing like that as well. Yeah, the cauldron. That's a very, and you just have that going on. He has, I think with a lot of echo, but you can just have it in the background as a little bed. And I point out to Mimi, I says,

1:05:00 I said only college stations do this because nobody else will allow it. It's just not allowable. For some reason it became a... And I don't know why, maybe you have a better handle on it than I do. Mainstream station, the engine, nobody will let you do that. I mean, you can maybe once in a while, you can get away with it and then you get chewed out later, but they don't, mainstream stations will not allow a bed underneath anything. They want the announcer to come on straight forward, you can put a little echo on him or something, then you go back to the music. But you can't have that kind of noise in the background. Why is this? You mean on a talk show?

1:05:38 On any show. Oh, well the top 40 guys. I got bubbles for us now right now. I got someone farting in the bathtub. Sounds really good. On a top 40 radio station, there's never a jock talking without music or some bed underneath him. Ever. That's that's the format, but you know like we talked the other day like what was that where they're doing music a music bed ABC yeah, I mean, that's it's stupid. I think it's cool. They're doing it all over there Yeah, but they're doing it over the clips No, that's a mistake

1:06:16 They're playing it over the clips. They're not playing it over the voice. Oh Jesus. I'm sorry Jesus has nothing to do with it, but it's that stupid yeah, maybe this is better. Maybe this is better for us We'll try this one. Where's a little bubbling yeah, no, but here we go. How's that sir? No? It sounds like we're in a couple guys in a jacuzzi Hey, hey funny meeting you here Come here often? Is a creation. I don't believe a word of it. Resigning en masse, everyone's gonna walk out? Yeah, we're all gonna walk out. Let's do it, because we all hate working here so much. Please. That we're all gonna walk out on the president and then they said, well, we're not gonna do it because it may disrupt the country too much. I don't believe a word of it. The thing that Pachanik points out, and maybe this is why he was nervous, and I will ask him about it, aside obviously from who hired Bolton, that's high on the list.

1:07:15 He was talking, because this is what Pachenik does, and it's interesting because I don't know if he, if it really works, if he really believes it or if he's just delusional. He, because he will say to me, I'm running a sigh up against John Bolton. And he said this, I'm talking months ago. And so all his videos, most of his videos at the time were all Bolton, bad, Bolton, Bolton, Bolton. And he says, you know, they monitor me and other people monitor me. And of course it's true because we monitor him as well. And here we are, we're actually rebroadcasting his message and we're not the only ones. So what he's worried about is that this anonymous book really is a soft coup psyop against Trump because it's a direct play into Trump's ego.

1:08:00 And I don't know if he's made comments on it yet, but he probably will and it becomes a kind of a negative distraction. He doesn't do well with these types of things and obsesses on it a little too much. But maybe a lot. No, no, no, Trump. Oh, yes. But the good news is. He doesn't read. Thank goodness! So yeah, unless there's an audio book, it'll never happen. He won't know what's in the book, you're right. Well, all of this doesn't matter because as I did trounce down my beat this morning, it looks like indeed very soon we will have

1:08:42 the unsealing of thousands of indictments. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I know it's hard to believe but we're finally there. Joe DeGeneva and his wife Victoria Toonsig come back on Joe Dobbs, Lou Dobbs, Pete Dobbs. Did you check the date on this to make sure it's a recent clip? Because sometimes you can get fooled as to two years ago. No, I'm pretty sure this is a recent clip. It'd be very similar, I'm sure. Who cares? I'm just recycling and pretending there's something new. Let's turn to first the Inspector General report. I'll be in the same position I've been for two years.

1:09:19 Are we ever going to see this report? You are going to see it, Lou, but I am not predicting. So much for anonymous sources, look at that. One says, yeah, before Thanksgiving and the other says no. At least they're backing off on the timeline now. They're cooling off a little bit on next Wednesday. We're going to have thousands of views. It's always next Wednesday. So no longer, but I heard she slipped in, you know, before Thanksgiving, we should hold on to it. But I can tell you this, and we have darn good sources for this. It's going to be very bad for the people in the Obama administration. As somebody, my source said to me, it's going to be worse than you can imagine. Well, that's, that is a heck of a tease, Victoria. Like we haven't been teased for months. I'm already sort of chomping at the bit to get the thing.

1:10:10 Joe, your thoughts on that Horwitz report? It doesn't sound like it's going to be a tepid matter. Explosive, would you say? I would say explosive and I would say for people at the highest levels of the FBI, And at the highest levels of the Justice Department, more important, the Justice Department, it's going to be devastating. It's going to ruin careers. It's going to make people have bar problems. It's going to be... Bill Barr problems. No, no, no, no. Bar association problems. Because what's clear now we know is that the senior levels of the Obama Justice Department were complicit in knowingly submitting materially false applications to the FISA Court for an illegitimate

1:10:59 counterintelligence purpose, not for a legitimate purpose, but to spy on Americans for political purposes. And it really will end up being the beginning of the greatest political scandal in history, and it's being held up partially because of John Durham's new grand jury, which by the way exists for one reason and one reason only, because people are going to be indicted. Yeah, oh, but there's more there's a part two and so that was about Horowitz is Indictments, but you don't know nothing yet

1:11:43 Because Durham, the Durham investigation, Inspector General Durham, oh it's gonna be so, it's gonna be, oh it's gonna be massive. It's been expanded Lou because he is now going into whole other areas. He's gone back into the, or origins of the investigation. I mean, for those of us who know this business, if you're in counterintelligence and you get a word that a George Papadopoulos has said he heard something, that the Russians have something, you know what you do? You go knock on his door within a week. She actually made a very interesting point here.

1:12:21 Because I don't know if it was FBI, I think it was FBI before it was CIA, but she's making this point that if you get some word about Russian intelligence trying to infiltrate a campaign, you go knock on that guy's door within a week and you say, hey, let's talk about it, let's see what's going on. It is exactly the same modus operandi the FBI uses for the six-week cycle. When a guy says, kill all Jews in the synagogue, they don't go talk to him, see what's going on, get him for a psyche val, you know, maybe put a straitjacket on him. No. They give him phony bombs and jack him up for two months so that he can go and actually pretend to do it.

1:12:58 This is a fundamental structural procedural issue with the United States intelligence communities. They're honey trappers. What is the word I'm looking for? Well, we brought this up in the last show and I still think this possibility exists that they have determined at some point that they can't do the old-fashioned thing which still seems like the logical thing to do which is that if you heard that Papadopoulos was being contacted by the Russians, you'd go turn him into a double agent right away. Well, even better! Even better!

1:13:34 No, you want to entrap him instead. Exactly. There's a little bit more to this. You know what you do? You go knock on his door within a week and ask him about it and have him give you the information. Where did he get it and how did he... They didn't do that. They didn't do that at all. They dissipate all the rules of a counterintelligence investigation. And it's expanded because originally Barr wanted Durham to just look at the beginnings of Crossfire Hurricane. How did this start? How did it happen? But then what they discovered was that they found out from the Devin Nunes experience at the White House in March of 2017. That's a great band name, the Devin Nunes experience. Devin Nunes experience at the White House in March of 2017, that there had been massive, massive unmaskings of Americans for political purposes and that those information was given and leaked to the press.

1:14:29 And by the way, the Michael Flynn-Ambassador Kislyak call, the Russian ambassador, which was leaked to David Ignatius of The Post, is in fact the subject of one of the criminal investigations because that leak is a 20-year felony. the Devin Nunes experience. Well so you know I have hope. I have high hopes. I have high hopes. I hope everyone feels better. And with that I would like to sincerely thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the connector ground loop John C. DeMora. Well in the morning to you Mr. Amakuri also in the morning all ships at sea feet in the air subs in the water.

1:15:13 Boots in the air and all the other things and the dames and knights. And in the morning to all of our trolls in Lettrell room! Lettrell room is where you can go hang out if you're a troll. It's like a digital bridge and that bridge is the No Agenda stream. Noagendastream.com. That bridge is filled with fun things for you to troll. Come on in! We've got cookies and milk. Noagendastream.com. But seriously folks, there's good stuff in them streams. It was so interesting, Thursday, Derino does the pre-show, he does a fantastic, almost reminiscent of one of the great 70s jocks, rapping, rhyming, just, I don't know, but it's all bashing rock and roll.

1:16:04 And then he hands it over the stream to Amsterdam and I click go and then I'm live. It's cool, I mean it's a real station. So anyway, NoahJennerStream.com. And also we would like to thank the artist for episode 1188, that was our previous show. The artist was Data, who has won a couple of album art placements. And there's nothing like having rules for us to break a rule, as the title of the show was Greta Doomberg. which was a very obvious title and we did something that we don't typically do. We combined the title with the album art, which was this fantastic Mad Max rendering of Greta and it was just, I mean, as you said and I recall this, that's not a simple Photoshop job. There was work done on this.

1:17:01 Yes, and I and we violated a second rule which was to look up whether this thing is in the public domain done by someone else Oh shit. Did we we didn't we didn't and was it taken? Nope I Was thinking about you're right normally we always check that yeah, you're right. Oh Yeah so what no i couldn't find any other examples i mean you can pop it in and you can come back with a new agenda or somewhere along the lines are buddy. Data did this picture of Greta and then plugged it into that that other picture which has been floating around Yeah, and I know it was original. Well, I mean I think you mentioned that it's been done with Hillary Hillary's been the original one the original piece with the guy with the Mad Max character Yeah had a Hillary right and so he swapped out the Hillary and put a Greta in the same basic style not quite as an extreme I mean, you know so many hours in the day and

1:17:59 But it's not as an extreme a look as the Hillary one, which is really frightening. Yeah, but he put that gret in there It worked beautifully and it was and I found nothing that that indicates that this is lifted in any way So it was earth, but we normally check It's funny after the fire. Oh crap. Go take a look and I thought comic strip blogger would would be Disturbed by our breaking of the rule, but he actually defended our choice. I Interestingly. Well I didn't know that he... I don't know that anybody knows this specific rule about the titles. We've explained it before and so there was one person picked up on it said hey wait a minute I thought you know I thought the title and the album art and the opening clip are three separate things and typically that is our rule. Yeah.

1:18:48 But we broke it for a good reason and it happens. I mean rules are meant to be broken and we broke it. Now there's other pieces. Rules are meant to be broken. They're meant to be broken. That's what they're for. I thought just to make sure that we make it clear that we had some good art here, Darren had a number. Darren was going for it and he couldn't get it. But I thought another piece of art Another big cover-up for that with the ABC logo. I thought was good. Yeah, it was like would you say I'm talking for free we make money That was it wasn't anything we were gonna use but it was fun. It was funny. Yeah There's a couple other well, there was the hey Betsy how to pick up girls with the flight transponder. I

1:19:33 I mean there was all kinds of stuff that was funny regarding the show. It's just, I mean, also it has to pop. I mean the whole idea is that people are scrolling through their podcast app, which apparently still is not the case on all people's, and apparently they did fix the album art changing But I would recommend if it's not changing for you and you're up to date with your iOS 13 million thousand whatever That you make sure that you delete your subscription and resubscribe that may fix it Although it shouldn't it shouldn't it should just work, but I don't know I don't know why Apple can't get it works on other on other podcast apps. It's fine. I

1:20:15 I don't think they don't care. They do care, but it's not one of their priorities because, you know, they I don't think they or they have a dedicated team is my understanding. Maybe the team needs to be replaced. Don't say this. We actually have knights up there, man. I like the guys, the guys who run it. The guys you talk to. I'm talking about the coders. Yeah, well, I know some. Believe me, those guys like us, too. But but there's no the it's it's the machine man, man. It's the machine the machine does Things in strange and mysterious ways. Well, thank you very much data Now you did a great job and he has done some other good ones. Look at his page on no agenda art generator comm where all modern and smart artists go to create art for our show and

1:21:08 Because it really is a great bit of value. I got questions about this in Holland How do you guys do that album art every single time? I said, well, we don't this is we don't also don't have listeners, bro We've got producers and then slowly it starts to dawn on people how it works So we appreciate that and we appreciate the work of all our listen to this show. Yeah, exactly No agenda art generator calm and we also have a few executive and associate executive producers to thank which we're going to do right now and Yeah, and I also want to thank the Boston people because we had a consolidated number that was in the last spreadsheet. I didn't put it in this one because it would make the numbers wrong. But I want to thank the people from Boston because there's a couple, one is an executive producer and there's a couple associates. I'm going to read this, the main list first, I'm going to read the Boston list. Oh good, good, good, good. Because they said like $700 or something. Yeah, it was $700. Nice.

1:22:02 So, and we'll have to incorporate them into the specific list at the end. Soro Taku starts us off at Duca, the Northeast Texas and the Red River Valley from Louisville, Texas. 34567, a favorite. Hey guys, I need some mac and cheese. Carmen and LGY for a steak competition that I'm competing in today. A steak competition. What does that mean? I have no idea. A steak? Maybe he's cooking. Maybe they're having steaks and they're cooking them. Cooking steak. All right, we'll do that. Keeping up the great work, sir Otaku, Duke of Northwest Texas in the Red River Valley. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheese cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Hey, everybody.

1:22:58 You've got karma. William Messing, 334 from Bainbridge Island, Washington. ITM Jens' donation should make me a knight. Prior donations and he's got a list. Please title me Sir William of Bainbridge Island. All right. Please add Oktoberfest beer and pretzels. Yes, I ordered them this morning, and I saw the boxes come in so they should already be here for you. Yes, thank you very much William. I'm looking forward to knighting you John Waldorf three three three dot three three and Elk River, Minnesota nuts

1:23:40 Whoopin' with the Constitution to the head. This is his little list. Dvorak.org slash NA just because it's so damn catchy. Yeah, we can't play that enough, can we? I understand. F-cancer from my best friend wife Becky's cancer. Just F-cancer. House karma because I'm closing on Friday. Goat karma because I'm a retired Navy chef. Chief. Chief. Oh, chief. I'm sorry, the retired Navy chief chef would be funnier. Yeah, no kidding. He's a retired Navy chief and he wants goat karma. I don't get the connection personally, but maybe there's something I don't know about. The goat is the universal mascot of the United States Navy. I didn't know this. I don't know if it's true, but I think we should launch it.

1:24:26 First time donor, please de-douche me. You've been de-douched. Thanks for all you do boys, I'm enjoying a newfound sanity. Please keep up the good work. I'd like to call out my brother Paul as a douchebag. He's a regular listener loves it when people get called out Five bucks chip in slave Justin Ward off Elk River 73 is Katie 0 VIX VJ X K5 ACC and I tried to get on the the time and I made a couple calls out to the

1:25:07 The the NAMS Network and no one replied, but we'd love to see you there John go to k5acc.com You've got karma. Yeah, hadn't played that one in a long time.

1:26:03 He does. I suggest you do a show a day. Go ahead, run with it. Sure. Happy 12th anniversary my friends. SirCalLavenderBlossoms.org. Thank you very much, Cal. SirCal is keeping us, keeping our, keeping our sanity in straight, in good whack with your CBD salves. It's good. Salves. I travel with my salve. Do you now? Yeah, yeah. I don't even, you know, if you've been sitting for 10 hours, you know, sometimes you just chafe a little bit. I don't need to tell you more, but calsalves at lavenderblossoms.org. What are you doing while you're sitting? It's already gone way too far this conversation. Sir, Andrew Harms comes up.

1:26:59 Sir Cal we love you sir Andrew Harms comes up at 300 bucks. He'll be our last executive producer Happy Veterans Day, please offer a moment of silence and play flowers of the forest in honor of all the veterans We have lost sir Andrew harms KC 0w1 1 flowers of the FBI Flowers or war 2 is what it okay? Well, we'll play it for just a second and we will be quiet because of course tomorrow is a Tomorrow is Veterans Day. Yes, so we'll play this just for a moment. And of course, Veterans Day was originally Armistice Day, 11-11 from 1918 when they signed off. World War I. Yes, well, I have a lot of veterans in my family, so we do observe that on Mondays, on this Monday. Jennifer Lovberg, 233.33. No, you missed Black Knight, Ered Darien.

1:28:14 Why don't you read that while I go look up her note? I think she sent a an email I think okay black knight eruditarian from Tabuco Tabuco Tabuco Canyon Tabuco Canyon, California Canyon. Thanks for the show guys. Can you please put my daughter Gracie on the birthday list? Of course, she's on she has been exposed to the best podcast in the universe since she was about 10 years old She now turns 23 and has a wonderfully normal sized amygdala This this is my gift to her black. Oh, no, I think that is my gift to her. Yes And it's a great gift. It's the gift that keeps on giving a normal sized amygdala for your young human resource Thank you very much black knight erudite ari and she's on the list, of course, and we'll be congratulating her later Jennifer love Berg 233 33 you got a note. Oh

1:29:08 Well, I got her her thing here, but just no note that I can find she may not have had a note Did she know I see no note from her so she's just gonna be if she has a note She'll send us something. We'll read it. Whatever it is. Of course. I thought she said did send something that's kind of bothersome Okay, all right back to the regular list Sir ever of the what? Or I'm sorry, Alex Gates. Let's do it to Alex. Alex, L-E-C-K-S Gates, 215. I figure it's time to pay back the value I get from the shows for keeping my sanity semi-weekly. It's my third time donating and about time for a de-douching. You got it. You've been de-douched. This is no jingles, but jobs are gonna be nice as I get through my first gig in the government contracting IT space.

1:30:03 I only have worked in the private sector until now and this has certainly been an eye-opening experience. I'm sure it is. Oh, you should if you can. Boots on the ground reports always welcome here. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. That's forever of the watt and $210.98. I so miss Saudi Daisy having moved to this frozen wasteland of Michigan. By the way, there is a meetup group up there you should join up with them and you'll feel a lot better. You guys are great on both Thursdays. What is the, what is the Saudi Daisy again? I forgot where it was. It was Mississippi or someplace. One of the Southern states, Saudi Daisy.

1:30:53 I remember he used to always be from Saudi Daisy. Colin Onufray? Onufray? Onufray? Maybe Onufray? Fort Lee, New Jersey. Fort Lee, New Jersey. Fort Lee, New Jersey. Jingo request china is asshole you might die and little kid yay been a douche bag in the past year but tristate meetup last weekend solidified my belief in the value for value model nice cool.

1:31:29 Gonna get close here time-wise just health karma for everyone and and how selling karma for my parents 22 year olds without degrees love no agenda This this is our t-shirt we finally have the slogan 22 year olds without a degree love no agenda. I love it You might die You've got karma. That's right. And I bet you're doing just fine. And last on the list before i get to the boston list san antonio in madrid spain or sir antonio i'm sorry sir antonio from madrid spain. Yes thank you for the long hours of info to info sane mint. Hey you should send us a.

1:32:26 Little well, I guess boots on the ground is it's not it's not Barcelona, but maybe he has some no. Yes anywhere anywhere near there No, I know but still as you might have some insight if you got any boots on the go. Well, thank you very much, sir Antonio jobs jobs jobs and jobs Let's vote for job Karma Barcelona It's a universal theme. All right, now our Boston meetup thank you list. Yeah, I got a couple here. Well, one note that needs to be read. We have let me just give you some thanks to some people that wrote checks.

1:33:08 We do have the overall check is a $226 postal order. And what he did, and I think this is something people I could recommend to other meetup guys, these collected, the guy who's headed up the meetup collects the money, grabs the checks, takes the cash and makes a postal money order and sends it all in an envelope to the bank. Box in two three three nights, but very useful. It was it was 700 bucks There's nothing to sneeze that so wait so even though they had checks he took he cashed the checks and then he cashed any checks he sent the checks. Oh, he sent the But the cash took the cash ah very smart and went to the post office. Oh, you got a money order Thank you. That's going above and beyond man. Thank you. It's going way overboard, but I have great Yeah, that's highly appreciated. Thank you for that

1:33:57 And he did have a little note, he wants a clip blitz sometime, wants mac and cheese, I've got ants in the morning. This is a scribbled little card. The ant thing, it's like two minutes. Yeah, don't play it. Play it at the end of the show. Don't play it. We'll have all kinds of end of shows. We'll play it again eventually. Okay, we'll get to it. Promise. Okay, this was Sir, I can't read this note because he's, I'm sorry. Here's one note from George Morphis in Bellingham from the Boston meet up. Here's an exchange of value and such. And he, it's Blake, says Gene. I don't know who it is. It's Gene, it's gotta be from Gene. Yeah, that's $100. We also have, oh, also from, okay, we got both Gene and George.

1:34:46 $100 each. Blake and Gene, $100 each. So they should be, we'll put them as the Blakes. The Blakes, okay. The Blakes. Social executive producer. Then we have a check for $333.33 from William Trent. So he'll be an executive producer and he says, he has a note, I would like to request jobs and health karma, which we can do, with the following jingles, mint tulips, that's wrong and that's true. Well, that's interesting. Also a belated birthday to my daughter, Jamie. Okay, get your pen out. Hold on a second. This is not the way to do this. I'm still looking up mint tulips and now I got to get my pen out. Are we going to do these jingles or what are we going to do? Well, I want to get this done first. The part about the birthday so it doesn't get lost. Birthdays. Jamie shares the birthday with the best podcast in the universe. Coincidence? I think not.

1:35:47 So this is... From who to who? This is from, don't get antsy on me, I'm trying to read these things, there's a pile of notes. From William and Carol to Jamie. Okay, I got it. And then the jingles are Mint Tulips, That's Wrong and That's True. I think we can do those. Okay, Mint Tulips, That's Wrong. Do we even have that one? Sure we do. So yes, that's Peterson. Okay. And that's true. And then that goes with what? A little karma, I guess. You're just guessing. You're not really taking orders. Just guessing what the customers want. Okay. They sit out on the sidewalk sipping mint tulips. That's wrong. That's true.

1:36:44 You've got karma That's an interesting combination because that's wrong goes with the stupid comment and that's true goes with that's wrong. I know it's genius Genius I tell you okay. I want to thank the Boston meetup guys and wait now the other guy wanted the clip blitz who was that? Oh Well, this is the was that also from the guy who put the meetup together. This is sir Something and sir whip a little pass. All right, I'll give him a I'll give him a clip. Let's read 33 He's got a clip let's see how I did that yeah, I Think that also the guy who puts all this together, which I have to thank Profusely for pulling it off getting the money over here. Yes I've maybe a type note

1:37:37 Over giving us rather than some the scribble on a little piece of paper that I can't read. It's probably preferable. Okay. We're creating protocols This is good. It's all new. This is new these meetups and you know, the meetups were new Yeah, people have been sending us money from the meet us, but it hasn't been organized. This is the most organized. It's been yeah I and I appreciate that that that's cool And I think you're right if we can just be a type note, so it's a little easier to read and But it's cool how this is work. Cool. I said it three times now. It's nice to see how this is working with the meetups. First, we were doing meetups. Then a producer created noagendameetups.com, which is, you know, of course, fantastic. So much better than meetups.com. And then, you know, people were sending donations in regards to the

1:38:23 Meetups, but now it's being consolidated. This is this is really good It's really appreciated and you know when you guys are doing a meetup. You know the meetup reports are fun See if you can do something in audio, 30 seconds or less, you know, like, hey, I'm this guy, I'm so-and-so, I'm sir this, I'm dame this, and we're here at the meetup and then, you know, sing a song or say do a big in the morning or something. It's an audio show. There will always be one guy in a meetup of more than five to ten people. Who's got the recorder, who knows how to do it. Who's got a little recorder or Apple iPhone and I think called and recorder look for and Don't let the IRS hear you because before you know it they think that that's all we need for the show

1:39:08 So an and recorder, you can use that and then everyone could be saying in the morning or something and we can put that on and use it as a clip. And then that will, that's cool. And then you can get your plug in for the, the organizer and get his plug himself. And everybody knows they want to plug himself. Yeah. I mean, so restricted to about a minute or so, which I think is possible. 30 seconds is a lot of time. Well, if you, if you see how much time it takes for me to read a meetup report, They're a lot longer than a minute. So yeah, between 30 seconds and a minute. But anyway, we're working this on the fly and it's beautiful to see this. And thank you so much for not, I mean, not just the donation. That's what we do. We're the ad lib specialists. It's also, we hate meetings. We like to do our meetings on the show about the show. Speaking of which, Jennifer with the No Agenda Animated Studios, first of all, this is, these things are hilarious.

1:40:06 I mean, I'm really... she has me cracking up about our own stuff. I'm not someone who cracks up typically listening to our own damn show. But somehow in combo with the video, she really nails it. I think... I mean, you saw the one with the sexual harassment, it's not harassment, it's a hot guy? Yeah. This is good stuff, man, with Eliza Schlesinger and then all the Elizabeth Warrens pop up. It's good. And I think we're pretty... I think if we have double the amount we have now, we almost have a pilot. Almost we just need but I think the title of the show should be crackpot and buzzkill I think it should be two podcasters. You think that's for commercial reasons? That's going to be better for commercial reasons The podcasting thing is it is kind of a in term right now for some reason I feel sorry for anyone like anyone who made the mistake of dreaming up the idea of netcasts Whoops a swing and a miss well, so it

1:41:09 Okay, because you know I'm just thinking well, I guess I understand what you're saying. Yeah Yeah, but if anybody sells this thing we're gonna it's gonna just go off the rails because it's good Wow, you know, I don't know two podcasters. You sure what if you're gonna bring a third person in I mean, it's gonna be you know, whatever we think it's gonna be a good title will be ruined I recommend Well, what look at that series episodes. Okay, so what we need we need is pucks. Okay, now that you've said two podcasters, now we need something about, you know, basically we're two loser old white dudes. Well, here's a story about two old white dudes, you know, kind of like a Beverly Hillbillies type thing. This is a pitch meeting I'm doing here with you. I'm bouncing. I might be moving a little too far. Hey, I'm just shooting from the hip here. I'm bouncing ideas. I'm just riffing with you, John. I'm just riffing for the meeting here. Just riffing. Well, I want to, before you continue your riffing, I want to thank these people for helping produce show 1189.

1:42:17 executive producer, associate executive producer of this particular show. Ciscast, there we go. Thank you, Troll Room. Ooh. Ciscast, the oldest white podcasters in existence. Well, I think we're very close. If we can get, you know, 20 minutes, 15, 20 minutes, I'm going to send it off to Super Agent Matthew Lesher. You can look him up. Super Agent Matthew Lesher, who does not know about this project yet, But well he will he will sell anything I mean he tried to sell me to Hollywood for 20 years and was unsuccessful So I'm sure I'm sure he won't he still has a bio printed up. So that's easy Just run the mimeograph some more

1:43:02 All right, so let's close out the donation segment. All right, I'm just having a good time with you in our meeting. Thank you very much to our executive producers and associate executive producers with the credits that are recognized everywhere in the entertainment business and beyond. So it is a smart idea to put these into your LinkedIn profile. That's where people get people for jobs, by the way, LinkedIn. And this is not a paid endorsement, it's just experience. And thank you, and we'll thank more people in our second donation segment. And remember that you can support the program in the same way with your own value by going to... And remember, we're the ones that told you that Barcelona is asshole! Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

1:43:55 So I have a clip that everybody, pretty much the whole family's watching this and we all jump to our feet because we're all looking for gaffes. Were you all together recently? You mentioned Mimi. Yeah, everybody's here. I didn't know. Is there a reason for it? Oh yeah, Mimi came down some, we'd go for a birthday and we'd be like... Oh, that's nice. Okay. So, but everybody caught this. See if you can catch it. I also have it ISOed, but this is the report on impeachment that CBS ran on Saturday. Hold on, I have a... It's a report on impeachment GAF, CBS.

1:44:43 Hold on. Yes, I got it here. Sorry. Today, House Republicans sent a letter to Adam Schiff, the chairman of the Intelligence Committee, requesting witnesses they want to call during public hearings that begin next week. Hunter Biden, the whistleblower and anyone relied on by the whistleblower in drafting the complaint are on the list. Democrats can overrule any of the witnesses, which is why the GOP and the president call the process unfair. It's a witch hunt and it should never happen to another president.

1:45:32 In a statement, Schiff said his committee is evaluating the request, but warned this inquiry is not and will not serve, however, as a vehicle to undertake the same sham investigations into the Biden's or 2016 that the president pressed Ukraine to conduct. Investigators are trying to determine if Mr. Trump abused his power by pressuring Ukraine to investigate the Biden family. Behind closed doors, multiple witnesses have described a quid pro quo and said White House acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney played a significant role. Can you describe the role that you played in pressuring Ukraine to investigate the Bidens? None. I didn't have any. What was your question? What did I do to Ukraine or something? Nothing.

1:46:18 Yesterday Mulvaney defied a subpoena to appear on Capitol Hill following orders from White House liars who argue he has immunity Mulvaney has asked to join a lawsuit that could decide if administration officials are protected from testifying Wow I would be on my feet too I'd be like dancing with Meany just jumping around that was good Here's the gaff, I got two versions of the gaff. One is the regular full version gaff and then the short one which I recommend for the end of the show to see if it works. But the first one is CBS gaff ISO. White House liars who argue he has immunity. Beautiful. What was the word? She clearly says White House liars. What was it supposed to be? Lawyers. White House liars who argue he has immunity.

1:47:08 White House liars who argue he has immunity. That's beautiful. He's the short one friend of shell right White House liars who Are you? Oh, I cut that little thing at the end off. No, you didn't. Clearly you didn't. Well, clearly I didn't, but I remember clipping it and I played it and it was gone. Well, maybe the whole long one's better. It's only two seconds. White House liars who argue he has immunity. No, the short one is, I'll just cut it live. Oh, but do it live! White House liars who... We'll do it live. No worries. Good catch.

1:47:43 That's a good, I love stuff like that. And it's just the truth wants to come out, man. Yeah, White House liars. White House liars. I had, what did I have? I thought I had somewhere, I had something. No, I guess not. Yeah, that's pretty funny. So I found, I was digging around and I found this old, a very interesting old, this show I watch a lot now, Hoover Institution has this. Oh yeah, this is where you got into Victor David Hansen by watching. Yeah, I went back to 2010 to find this one. This is Daniel Hannan who wrote the New Road to Serfdom which was a kind of a bestseller back during the Obama administration. I remember this. We have to remember that. Oops, sorry. I remember this. Wait, wait. No, no, it was a misfire. I'm sorry.

1:48:42 We have to remember that all these complaints and all the stuff that we're bitching and moaning about and everything is not new. And it's not about Trump so much, and what we're complaining about is the difference between globalization and borders. This podcast is not about no borders, no this, no capitalism. We're not that way. We're against the globalist move to turn everybody into, individual slaves and the new road to serfdom was kind of about this and this was in 2010 but he talks a little bit about what was going on sociologically during the Obama administration I thought was a kind of an interesting observation he left one thing out and which I will bring up after we play this clip

1:49:28 It's very rare to meet Americans who are appreciative of how extraordinary is the constitutional inheritance of this country, how successful the founders were in dispersing and democratizing power and constraining the state by doing that. What's happening now, it seems to me, the direction being pursued by this administration amounts to a comprehensive policy of Europeanization. European health care, European welfare, European climate targets, European disarmament and if you make your country more like the rest of the world, less American, you will serve to make it less independent, less prosperous, less free and that's our problem as well as yours. The world has benefited from a strong and engaged United States. Segment two, let's take a few of those topics you mentioned. Quoting again, the economy.

1:50:17 the new road to serfdom. Quote, here is Europe's economic tragedy. It suffers no worse than the United States during recessions but it fails to recover to the same extent during the intervening upswings. So why not? Why is there less dynamism in the European economy? There has been an enormous amount of legislation, well-intentioned legislation, aimed at giving social protection to employees. And it's now reached the stage in a lot of countries where it just isn't worth your while to hire people because once you've done that you won't be able to get rid of them. You become very nervous about taking people on in the good times because you know that you won't be able to get them off your books if things go bad.

1:50:59 and this has led to a measure of structural unemployment which historically has been much higher than that in the US. It's striking that unemployment in this country has just reached European levels at the same time that your government has expanded, you've started regulating the private sector, telling people how much they're allowed to be paid and so on. There's a connection between those two things. In the short term you can have the paternity leave, the vacations, but in the long term the money runs out. Anyway, it's an interesting boat people's might want to look at it. I was looking for jingles or clips I think we we had something about that, but I couldn't find it. That's for sure Well, anyway, he talks about this idea and I can kind of see it if we can all see it We've talked about on the show before this idea of European is a shun now that was making America more like Europe and

1:51:49 doing, well they do it and they always point, oh look what they do in Sweden, look what they do over there, they're European this, European that, it's all better and that's what the Obama administration, that whole era was all about that. And it's all, which also brings in the EU and the globalizing and all the rest of it. But what he left out with this list, he has healthcare and global warming standards and all the rest, he left out the one Europeanization, Tick or the one thing they wanted due to the to the Americans to European eyes us. Yeah soccer Yeah, you're right You're right European ization anyway, that was my punchline. It was it was okay Well, this is a point I make it I make this point about once a year. Yeah, I know you do John Cena

1:52:47 Yeah, he's an OTG kind of guy Forgotten about that one a couple of OTG segments for you there is stuff to discuss there was a and this is something that I have always wondered about as Especially when traveling I noticed that and even in the US even though we're both on T-Mobile networks But even when it was when the keeper was on sprint for the integration SMS text messages, which is what all I do. I don't have any other I don't have any other apps There's nothing else I can do I certainly don't use I message been through that nightmare before where you can't get off of it or people think they're sending something to you when you no longer have an iPhone But text just not arriving

1:53:37 And it was always my understanding that SMS was kind of a guaranteed messaging service. I mean, my God, man, they charge 25 cents for it. Certainly if you're doing it overseas, maybe even more sometimes. And that was always my understanding, was guaranteed delivery of these messages. But I've seen them slipping up. And when, especially when you have a time zone difference, And you know when the keeper said to me, hey I haven't heard from you all day, everything okay? I was like, you know, you didn't get so, she didn't get a picture, I think there were some other, we have to compare them all next to each other. And this is mainly because there is a service

1:54:19 that kind of sits in the middle as a router very much the way email is handled. And this is really strange. Some had messages coming from friends or family who've actually passed on. Others received a text from ex-boyfriends, ex-girlfriends. And as I say, the worst scenario is getting a text from somebody who's died. The cyber guy is here. Kurt Knutson joining us with more details. Kurt, getting a text from a dead relative is really spooky. Who's responsible for this? And what happened? A lot of people seeing this as a curse, David. And then for others, they think Cupid is striking again. A lot of mixed opinions, but a lot of people pouring out their emotionally charged response to this. These are called ghost texts. They're words, as you said,

1:55:17 168,149 of them. The reason this happened is a company named Cineverse located in Tampa, Florida. actually is the go-between third party between the wireless phone companies that we use. So if I sent you a message from AT&T, but you use something else like Verizon, they might use Centiverse to connect those messages and bring them to the next service. Well, apparently, right around Valentine's Day, as you had said, they got caught up in this glitch and just sat there suspended. And then recently in a maintenance

1:55:52 update that they were doing on their systems, they started flowing through. But it doesn't say they were dated back then. It looks like they were just sent right now. So for someone that may be your ex that you don't like, and now it seems like they're saying, hey, I'm waiting outside with flowers, that's not really good. So, you know, I mean, obviously it's kind of funny that this took place. This happened? This is a local story? JC? Yeah. Had this happen to one of his co-workers who is overseas as we speak and then he, a Valentine message came to his wife saying, hey sweetie, I'll be seeing you at the same place. Let me know when you're here. Okay. And he's overseas, he's not at home, he's nowhere around.

1:56:47 And so his wife gets this message and she says, what's this all about? And starts grilling him. Cause she thought that of course he was texting some chick. What's her name? Oh brother. Oh my goodness. The guy, he said, Hey, wait a minute. I'm, and he's trying to show that this, he's trying to show his messages. He had took screenshots of his phone. Oh, he's sweating. Oh, he's sweating. So he's sweating for 24 hours because the next day that the story broke and once the story broke. Oh, thank goodness. Okay. And it saved his marriage. Wow. Yeah, that's that, you know, anyway, screw these guys. And I know we have lots of dudes named Ben and actually we said dudes named them.

1:57:34 as we have due debts as well, who are in this business. So I'd like to know. I'd like to know, you know, why is this failing? Is it really this company in the middle? And by the way, is this something the NSA talks to? You know, I thought it was direct. In fact, I was even convinced that at some level text messages were encrypted. I mean, I have no evidence for that, but I thought it was supposed to be encrypted, secure and guaranteed. I was under the impression, we talked about this at the dinner table with JC who works in the business, and he was under the impression that SMS messages are sent and then deleted. And I've never believed that for a minute. And this is an example, they were obviously stored someplace, and why were they stored for so long?

1:58:21 No, well Because I think those are the requirements these days this the intelligence agencies mandate that all this I mean remember we went through this the phone companies had to store everything for three months and it was six months then it was three years and We've been through this now. They're not deleted at all And I'm also gonna bring this up which because of my mail chimp situation, which I'm worried about which is a yeah males It's getting Mostly going up, but there are people that claim they never get them Then they look at all their boxes and they check for the spam and they never find a copy of so it's time for us And I discussed this with the keeper the last night because she was like I don't understand John needs to use a different mail service meal chimp isn't good enough I said this is not the issue the issue is for at least 15 years and I know because when we were at pod show So that's 10 years ago

1:59:13 2005 we had a system and you could request your lost password and people were not receiving the lost the other password reset message and we looked into it and that's when we found very quickly that the big email service providers Gmail Yahoo AOL, you know a couple other really big ones certainly if you have it through Verizon, you know some people have their email address through their cell phone provider and They do not guarantee delivery of everything. In fact, to protect their customers, they send lots of stuff to spam, doesn't even see your account. But if your email is tagged by one of the approved companies, which you sometimes wind up paying $100,000 a year to, that's what Podshow wound up paying, $100,000 a year to a, I think it was Sequoia?

2:00:08 Company might have been client. I think was Sequoia Capital Company. That's all they do is they have deals and we've talked about this several times in the past they have deals with the big email providers like Gmail and if you go through them and Which is very costly depending on volume of course, but they have their tiers Then it's guaranteed to arrive in the inbox. So it's Logical that a mail chimp a newsletter email service pays that fee But do they pay all the time? Do they pay for certain level of service? Are they just getting screwed over? Well, I also I believe there's also another element which I discussed in that Twitter memo, which is that I think these guys are over and I think this would apply to SMS. I think it would apply to MailChimp and I'll explain the MailChimp situation. I'm with you. They may not just may not just be able to handle this.

2:01:02 It's also possible that their mailers just, you know, the servers are just overloaded. We're at the limit. We can't send anymore. We're done. We're at the limit. We're sending out as much as we can. We're full. And the thing about MailChimp, which Is kind of indication of an indication of this is that mail chimp uses a flat fee Mechanism. Ah, there you go. So you have a hundred and fifty you pay $150 a month We do to send a mail out and that and it's depend you can send it out daily I should be sending out a daily newsletter. Yeah, because it's a flat fee now other mailing services do it by mailing you got to pay per mailing and

2:01:42 And so it encourages, MailChimp and their flat fee encourages you to send two or three emails a day. I mean that would, and I'm sure people are doing that because they can do it, because they can. So they're just pumping it out. And it would burden the servers. I don't know if these servers can handle that kind of a load, even though they're running through, I'm sure they're running through all the systems out there that can handle this huge load supposedly. But it costs money. I just think a lot of this is because the whole system is so tech heavy that it's just...

2:02:21 Can't handle the load SMS is probably a load problem. No, it's text. You see these kids are walking around They're walking into the street. I must ran some guy over the other day walking right into this crosswalk Never bother to look to see if anyone was coming You know We have a there's a lot of these big infrastructure issues another example is You know and this is why I'm so happy that we pretty much have our own deal going on you know We've got our own servers that void runs You've been Rose and Darren all those guys there. We did keeping all that all that running for us We've got mastodon Aaron or runs that you know so we have our really our own little infrastructure, but Now Google is into podcasts so

2:03:08 Google has a web player. They've got some other you know, I don't know if they have an app for it or not but The way they have their data system set up and caching, I'm not sure exactly how it works, but here's what happened on the last episode. And I remind you it's 10 o'clock at night, I'm tired, and I spin off the show, which means we've done our little edit at the beginning, I spin it off, and then it's an MP3, and then I upload it to our server, and I notice, oh crap, It's uploaded, but it's the wrong file name. And I've learned in our system, it's better for me to delete the file and then upload one with the proper file name. However...

2:03:52 Somewhere and this is and I recommend people not do this though. They know that my file naming structure So they're just gonna fill in the URL of what the mp3 will be and until I've actually hit publish until I've actually Announced it on on knowage in the social comm and on Twitter people sit there and refresh and and so, you know So they get like a half a file because I deleted it as it was still we have our own little content delivery network So it's propagating out You know, as someone grabs it, that gets cast through some Google thing, and before you know it, people are getting half the podcast. You know, in order for me to really fix that, I have to create a new unique ID for the... I mean, it's a nightmare. Yeah, you don't want to do that. It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. All of... You know what? The internet, it's a nightmare in general. It's just a nightmare.

2:04:48 And it's all these big companies who came in and owned everything and everyone loves their Gmail. Well, good luck with that. In continuation with our OTG segment, I'll cut a couple here. This is the one that I think is interesting. As predicted and as forewarned, it is not a good idea to give your DNA to companies owned by Google's ex-wife and, what is it, Larry Page's ex-wife. or Sergey Brin, one of them, not 50% chance. It's not a good idea to give them to ancestry.com. It's just not a good idea.

2:05:27 Oh no, no, that's all but anonymous and blah blah blah blah. Ancestry website Jedmatch helped Orlando police solve a 2001 murder case by providing access to its DNA database. But earlier this year, police say the website changed its policy, blocking detectives. Detective Michael Fields felt the site could be useful in a new case. The New York Times reporting involving a serial rapist decades ago. Sofield's team wrote up the first ever search warrant for a genealogy site. The judge took 24 hours to review it and the judge eventually signed the search warrant. July 14th, Judge Patricia Stroudbridge approving it. The ruling getting national attention because of a potential ripple effect. An attorney for law enforcement or a prosecutor who is trying to seek this sort of information could

2:06:15 look at the reasoning used by this judge, Judge Strawbridge, and the Ninth Judicial Circuit of Florida in Orange County, and we're asking you to apply the same reasoning and allowing us access to this information in our case. Popular sites Ancestry.com and 23andMe sounding off, sending the news station statements that read in part, Ancestry believes that GEDmatch could have done more to protect the privacy of its users. by pushing back on the warrant or even challenging it in court. Their failure to do so is highly irresponsible and deeply concerning to all of us here at Ancestry. It certainly troubles us here at 23andMe. Perhaps just as disturbing as Jedmatch's apparent lack of scrutiny and challenge of the validity of the warrant issued. Did you hear that?

2:07:02 Did you hear the very end? No. As disturbing as Jed matches, apparent lack of scrutiny and challenge of the validity... Scrutiny! Scrutiny! You can't say scrutiny. Scrutiny. Oh, I missed it. Yeah. Scrutiny. Scrutiny. Perhaps just as disturbing as Jed matches, apparent lack of scrutiny and challenge of the validity... Oh, God. Scrutiny. Scrutiny. You know, I'm hearing this tea happening now with Clinton. It's Hillary Clinton. Clinton. Clinton. It's Clinton. I mean, and by the way, we're falling over this. This is not just one word that's changing. This is the entire structure of parts of the English language. Screwiny. Screwiny. How do you write that? S-C-R-E-W-I-N-Y? Is it Screwiny? That's the show title. Screwiny. Screwiny.

2:07:54 Final point is about my buddy so you can say scrutiny now your scrutiny scrutiny scrutiny scrutiny Final thing that someone sent me. No, actually I found this through a... I've been looking a lot of blogs about micro grids. I'm very interested now obviously as it pertains to the fires and you know what is really true? What are they really trying to do? Is there an end game? What is the goal? And I'm really leaning towards this idea of let's get some micro grids. Our grid is old and decrepit and we haven't kept it up and we really want to do something new. But there's an extra data point

2:08:33 that I did not realize. And that is, and this may be the problem with what's going on in California. I mean, when fire ignites from the grid, some of that, yes, may be a power line that actually breaks. I've seen it, you know, a power line breaks, it shorts out on some wood, and it can catch fire pretty easily. It's happened to me in New Jersey. It does happen. But when you have transformers frying out, And I learned that California has what is called here as America's 400 ton electric albatross. They have these Chinese transformers that are apparently in many cases inferior. 200 Chinese transformers have come into the US energy sector in the last 10 years. And these are the big boys. These are the big transformers.

2:09:33 And you know 345 kilovolts What if because you know before before all this really started we we've always heard our grids no good We've got to upgrade there's a lot of chatter about how we've got to upgrade the grid is it possible Is it possible that our grid is filled with cheap-ass Chinese junk that is just burning up and burning stuff down Yeah, this is not discussed No, well it's now being discussed by you. And apparently Pacific Gas and Electric has quite a few. China has shipped a 900 megavolt ampere transformer to the United States. This article, this is 2004. Ampere. Amps.

2:10:21 made by the TBM Electric Shenyang transformer group used for connecting the California power grid and the hydro power grid in Los Angeles. I mean this I had no idea that we are using Chinese transformers. this could be a big part of the issue. And why they want to. Sure, they're about one half the price of a whatever General Electric, I don't know who makes the big transformers anymore, if anyone, maybe nobody makes them. Yeah, no we do. A lot of companies, I remember when. ABB, ABB is the big one. Cummins Diesel, it was on the air going on about how they're using all these engine blocks from China, and the woman spokesperson for the company, a very famous motor maker,

2:11:06 Says, oh, we can't nobody can do these. You can't you can't mold these things here in this country. And I did some research. You remember this on the show a couple years ago. There's a ton of companies that could do them. But now they're just bringing in these ones from China because it makes their everything makes their bottom line work a little better. The profitability goes up a bit because they're using cheap components. And I suppose that's what's going on here. Tebian Electric, this is the Chinese company, beat out several big international rivals including South Korea's Hyundai, Japan's Mitsubishi and Switzerland's ABB to win the deal. So they're under bidding with cheap Chinese crap. This is the problem with the bidding model.

2:11:49 Well, of course it always goes to the lowest bid, but this is not competitive. I mean, we have no proof, but I would say, hey, this needs to be discussed. I want to know, is there Chinese crap that's burning up California? Is that part of it? Well, I'm sure a lot of these insulators, like the one that went off and started this last fire up on one of the transmission poles, those insulators, I wouldn't be surprised if most of them were made in China too. Yeah, you're right. And then... China can make a lot, they can crank. Yeah. They always could, that's one of the things. China can crank, that's right. They can crank. Meanwhile, according to Quirosh, a pro-ISIS media outlet,

2:12:36 Whatever that is. What is that? I don't know. What CIA front is this? Exactly. Well, listen to the headline. ISIS urges followers to ignite fires in forests across the US and Europe. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what we need. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's ISIS. Don't worry about ISIS in America, everybody. They're back. No, no, no, no, no. We're not gonna fall for that. I call for an investigation on this China stuff. Yeah, well, you're not going to get one because we have better things to do. We have more important things to do than look into things like that. We have to impeach Trump. I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

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2:23:05 The course the correspondent which I I used I supported them early on this a Dutch outfit who then we're gonna launch in America and they raised a million bucks and they oh yes that kind of full of shit yeah because they didn't really open a New York office but someone sent me an article from their English version And it's about online advertising and the guy who was talked about the most here is he's some famous statistician Well, anyway, I'm putting this in the show notes and I want people to take a look at this. It's called the new dot-com bubblers here. It's called online advertising. And what he shows and what he's done with proof at eBay specifically is he's shown that all advertising on the internet when it comes to you clicking on something, so I'm not talking about maybe a brand ad that may roll somewhere that can put an idea into your head.

2:24:06 But he specifically took eBay, who were paying for links on Google search. And the way they kind of calculated it, well, it cost us $20 million in ads, but look at how much came in, $245 million in revenue. But they actually did a test and stopped And they're, because you know when you search for eBay, just eBay, a lot of people do this. I think that's the bulk of Google's business is people typing eBay into the search bar. Not ebay.com, just eBay and then it comes up in Google and you click the link eBay and you go there. I mean people do this, I see them do it all the time. All the time. So when you click on the top two links when you search for eBay, it's a paid link. And Google gets paid for that click.

2:24:56 When they stopped advertising, their link still showed up at the top except they weren't paying for it. So you do the numbers and in every single case, whether it's Facebook, Google or Instagram, these are the cases that they highlighted, every single campaign Was was unprofitable Because you still have to pay for the ad so every campaign when they advertised on Google versus not when your link still shows up at the top They were actually losing money across the board well a couple of things one when the dot-com collapse happened the

2:25:39 internet advertising bubble also collapsed. There was an internet advertising bubble in the year 2000. And you can see it, everybody started bailing out from all these ads and banner ads died and all the rest of it. So that's not a new thing that this was gonna happen. It's more of a cycle to me than it is a bubble, but even though it looks like a bubble and probably should collapse, As for the, I've never fully understood why when you type eBay, let's say, or anything else, you see sponsored ad, which is the link at the top, and then three searches down where the advertising ends, three links down or so. There it is again. And I always click on that one. Right, well, yeah, yes, exactly right.

2:26:30 You're paying on the, you're clicking on the one that Google doesn't get paid for. Yeah, I don't see why I should be clicking on something when the search engine itself will give this to me like a couple down. I mean, there's no reason for it. Exactly. Well, he's a statistician and it's a very interesting read. It's very thorough. It's not a short read. I want to read that. It's not a short read. Yeah, in fact, I've just repurposed it in the show notes. You'll find it right there at the top. Internet advertising bubble and the stories underneath that link. So it's just really interesting. And I read it this morning, I said, wow, this, you know, it confirms everything we kind of knew. And in advertising in general, it starts off with the famous quote of Mel Carmesan, who was, you know, running, what was he running at the time? Mel Carmesan, was he running Viacom in 2003?

2:27:23 You know, he walked into the Google offices in Mountain View, California to find out, you know, how these Larry Page and Larry Page and Brin, Sergey and whatever, the Russian guys, Sergey and Larry, how they were, you know, how they were doing this. And his, you know, as they were saying, our business is highly measurable. We know exactly where, this is 2003 talk, obviously. And Karmazin said, you know, his famous quote was, you guys are fucking with magic. Which is totally true because that advertising, actual results of advertising is kind of magical because no one can explain if it works or the other famous quote, I know half of my advertising money is working, I just don't know which half. So it's a great article to read, I think you'll like it. I think you'll like it a lot.

2:28:10 Yow yow yow, the Vape Wars! Well, it only took him a couple ball. What is it about two months? But you're no agenda show knew it already federal health officials have made a breakthrough in their investigation into the lung illnesses and deaths linked to vaping the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found vitamin e acetate in all 29 samples of lung fluid taken from patients it is the first time that

2:28:45 The CDC has found a common suspect in patients' lungs damaged by vaping. When heated and inhaled, vitamin E acetate is thought to cause a chemical burn injury in the lungs. But the CDC says more tests still need to be done. We have to better understand the pathology of how the vitamin E that gets into the lungs and causes the damage to the lungs occur. Vitamin C acetate is often used as a thickener in black market vaping fluid containing THC, the active ingredient in marijuana. But just 23 of the 29 tested positive for THC. At least 2,000 illnesses and 40 deaths.

2:29:23 have been linked to vaping. Of course, these were all attributed to Juul and oh my god, kids, and we can't have them vaping sweet liquids, you're marketing towards kids. You know, this is a problem with the No Agenda show. We're watching this news report, pretty much the one you just played last night, and I'm thinking, vitamin E acetate, Why is this news? As far as I'm concerned, we talked about this and I thought it was already discussed in the mainstream media two, three weeks ago.

2:30:03 But now I realize this only was discussed on our show apparently. Which is giving me trouble with some watching some of the news because I'm watching this thinking, this isn't news. We all knew that vitamin E acetate was the culprit here. They did mention that it's a thickener or viscosity. But also that it was also that it was purely in the THC cartridges and our research we went directly to the source I went to Justin the drug dealer which any news outfit could have done but no they're not they're not because they're all complicit in ruining the vaping industry so that Philip Morris and what's that other company if the fake name

2:30:48 American, well yeah, that used to be American tobacco. Who bought Juul just to kill the vaping industry. You know, they want to bring in their heated tobacco and there's an additional reason you were talking earlier about Michael Bloomberg and all the anti-Juul ads that his name is on it. And I would like to know does Michael Bloomberg, I'm sure he does, but I wonder what kind of position he has in tobacco stocks. I wonder if he has any position in that. California in particular has a huge problem with people stopping smoking. I know this sounds weird.

2:31:28 But they have a huge problem with people stopping smoking and moving to vaporized nicotine inhalation, which I do and I don't smoke tobacco anymore and I've not died yet because I'm not falling for the stupid, you know, I did my own research and I went to the drug dealers and I got the true story and here it is being confirmed. This is a It's from a YouTube channel called Truth About Vaping. Now this is almost five years old, this little piece of the clip that I'm pulling for you. So it's a little oversimplified. You know, it's one of these animated things. But specifically in California, but also in other states,

2:32:08 There's a big reason why the states themselves do not want tobacco companies selling less tobacco products because you don't get a very specific benefit as a state when it comes to nicotine. Problem number one. The more money Big Tobacco makes, the more money California gets. In 1998, a deal was struck between the biggest big tobacco companies and 46 U.S. states called the Master Settlement Agreement, or MSA. This agreement said that these big tobacco companies would make yearly payments to the states in exchange for the states dropping lawsuits against them regarding smoking-related deaths and expenses. The amount of money Big Tobacco pays the states each year is directly dependent on how much they sell.

2:32:51 Problem number two, the states spent that money before they got it. Most of the states wanted all that money up front instead of waiting for payments from Big Tobacco each year. So they sold bonds to Wall Street based on the amount they calculated Big Tobacco would be paying them. But then something started happening. Americans started smoking less. New Jersey, Ohio and Virginia have already announced they have to take money from their reserves due to insufficient funds from the tobacco money. And with the growing popularity of e-cigarettes, the smoking rate is declining even faster. California and New York are being affected the most because they have the highest populations and are owed the most money by Big Tobacco under this agreement. In 2013, cigarette shipments saw their biggest decline since 2009, and many financial analysts say the cause of that severe decline is e-cigarettes.

2:33:42 So the truth? The state of California needs tobacco sales to stay high. Otherwise, they default on their bonds. E-cigarettes are getting in the way of that. It looks like the health of the public isn't the top priority for the Department of Public Health. Their top priority? Their wallet. Obviously, it's a propaganda pro-vaping video, but the data is irrefutable. And I don't know how much money this is. I'm sure we can figure this out. But this master settlement agreement was a big deal. Well, you can look that up and find out because I'm sure it's a lot. Yeah, so there's everyone's against people actually stopping smoking tobacco. And so they're all jitty about this IQOS thing. It's money. Yeah, it's all about lung schmung. Lung schmung cancer schmancer. I mean, what's your problem? Lung schmung. Get out of here. This is great. Wow. That was a nice find.

2:34:38 But of course none of it should be surprising. Well, no. States like California and New York are probably the max corrupt states. Oh, totally. It's like, yeah. I was listening to one of the financial shows and they were discussing Trump's moving, taking his residency to Florida where there's no personal income tax. But New York State, California does the same thing. New York State, okay, you can say you're a Florida resident, but if you're doing any business here and you've been established here in the past, they're gonna go after you anyway.

2:35:15 It would take him probably five, six years. I know a guy who did this. I know a couple of people actually that they've decided they're sick of paying California personal income tax, which is pretty high. It's like 10% or higher. And they moved to just go across the border. He moved in Nevada. There's no personal income tax in Nevada. You can go back and forth, but they dog them, you know, see how many days you've been coming across. You doing any business here? You're making a phone call into the state. Are you pinging one of our towers? It's interesting you mentioned that I had.

2:35:51 LLC ten years ago in California, I think Zulu apps and it it was dormant and I closed it and it never No money ever ran through it this year I got the California Tax Board sent me a bill for over a thousand dollars saying at home tax and now I have to go fight these Jabra no Jamal's What do you mean no? I can tell you right now you're going to lose out, you have to pay. This happened to us. What am I going to do? We had an employee once and this was years ago and all of a sudden the IRS just out of the blue they ding us for some back, you know, social security or something. John, this is for 2018.

2:36:39 Yeah, it's ridiculous. But I haven't lived there in almost 10 years. The company... I mean, when am I going to pay? You can just say, screw it, you don't want to pay, but we were advised that we should just pay. Holy crap. Extortion racket. That's crazy. Yeah, what are you going to do? Well, I mean, there's got to be some legal way to stop this. Yeah, it's going to cost you more in legal fees than paying. You're kidding. So they're just looking at my federal tax return, I guess somehow. And saying, oh, well, a piece of that's got to be ours. Yeah, probably. I will die. Die, California. Die. No, it's really a slave. But all these big states in New York, New York's probably worse because especially New York City, because in New York you have a state income tax and in New York City you have a city income tax. No, it's nuts. Why does anybody put up with this?

2:37:34 Yeah, sir. Ben rose just said perfectly let this be a lesson never live in California. Yeah, I agree I can't believe that you are you of all people who knows how to fight the system on these kinds of things is Actually telling me to give up. Yeah, it's a lot of money about thousand dollars a lot of money I'm just telling you I know when to give up But maybe you can fight. I mean, why don't you write a protest letter? At least write a letter and see if you can get it straightened out. But if you're gonna bring a little, you know, otherwise you're gonna, you know. We don't say it that way. Or give him a call and be nice. Be charming. So I have a clip, just a kind of clip that

2:38:16 Mainstream media, the reason I listen to Democracy Now is because occasionally they have a gem. And this is a very short clip, they usually go on and on and really length of some of this stuff, but this is a little short clip. I just got the biggest kick out of this because they had a video to go along with it. And I'll explain the video after we play this clip. This is the Glenn Greenwald clip. Meanwhile, a far right Brazilian journalist tried to punch Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, co-founder of The Intercept, Glenn Greenwald, after a heated argument during the live taping of a radio show. The far right journalist, Augusto Nunes, had previously made insulting comments about Greenwald's family.

2:38:58 All right, okay, so there's you had the video clip of these guys talking this talk show greenwald see now I want you to do the following kind of this is kind of like doing a play like a Acting? Yeah, a little acting here. So what you do, you're facing somebody so you turn your head completely to the left as far as you can and put your hands about a foot in front of your face and then make a dog paddling motion as fast as you can. That's what he was doing? That's kind of the fight that broke out between these two guys.

2:39:35 Was this a hissy fight? What was this? It's kind of what it looked like. Oh my goodness. The guy did take a kind of a swing at him and he, it was ludicrous. I don't get it. And what did Glenn Greenwald do on Raftive? Did he fight back? No, he's ducking, you know, he's doing the dog paddle thing. Wait, Glenn Greenwald was doing the dog paddle? Yeah, pretty much. I gotta see this clip. Yeah, he's he's not as comedic as I make it sound but it is pretty funny I think those things are always funny to watch especially on the radio show that makes even better Well, I don't know what the camera was doing on the radio show It's one of those things where everyone had you know, like everybody has to have a camera on him all the time you know that is something we don't do that came up on the

2:40:22 the 100 year celebration of radio, you know all that all these Especially all the the new morning shows all have to have a webcam a webcam gotta have a cam so you can see what's going on in the studio It's so cool. No, it's the opposite of cool. We're cool. It's totally the opposite of cool here on the syscast no cams on the syscast no syscast cams away via syscam All right, you want to roll us out with one last one? We'll do some end of show mixes and get out of here. Yeah, well, we can do. Let's see. I got a little Mark Meadows clip. It's pretty funny. A human rights watch. Oh, yeah, this is a human rights watch was kicked out of Israel, which is pretty funny in itself. Cable TV insisting there's nothing to see here. Hold on. We have Mark Meadows right here. Congressman Meadows, can we talk? Oh,

2:41:16 I'm sorry. It's a funny clip. We'll play the Mark Meadows clip. Mark, you only have to set it up for this problem. Oh, I'm sorry. I see what I did wrong here. Yes. But do you want to hear this one or the Human Rights? Well, let's do the mark. I was about to set it up. Okay, sorry This woman's doing an interview or she's a stand-up doing his local presentation and she's yakking away Uh, and she's and she says and mark man She tries to put the mic and he just goes by her like a mile a minute And then she so she bros pulls the mic back and then she says something disparaging in a kind of a funny way He comes running back But who is Mark Meadows? Mark Meadows is a congressman that's part of one of the judicial committees. One of these guys is a Republican. Okay, I gotcha. Alright, let's see. On cable TV insisting there's nothing to see here. Hold on, we have Mark Meadows right here. Congressman Meadows, can we talk live? So he's walking by right now. But Republicans are really struggling to defend the president. Okay, great. They're not struggling on anything. Okay, so congressman... So the Republicans are not struggling on anything.

2:42:13 Okay, now let's do the human rights watch then. Human Rights Watch, which we know is a front. Yes. You know, they push their luck once when they get kicked out every so often. And here we go. The Israeli Supreme Court has ruled the government has the right to expel the head of Human Rights Watch's Israel and Palestine office. Omar Shakir is a U.S. citizen. Israel's accused him of supporting

2:42:59 supporting the nonviolent boycotts, divestment and sanctions movement known as BDS, which aims to pressure Israel over its treatment of Palestinians. A 2017 Israeli law that bans foreigners from Israel if they publicly support the BDS movement. Yeah, well, doesn't surprise me. So why is Israel the bad guy for kicking people out that aren't Israelis? Because it's human rights watch, John. Can't you tell from their name that they're good people? They have a nice logo. Exactly. All right, I got... No, that's good. No, that's good. That's good. That's good. For the end of show mixes, thanks to Cyborg Dave, Danny Luce and Tom Starkweather. Three great mixes coming up for you. That's always appreciated. And of course we'll return on Thursday, the second Sunday show of the week. We'll do it all again for you. There'll be tons to discuss. I'm sure there always is.

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2:44:38 So we'll talk about him on Thursday. I'm John C. Dvorak. Coming up on NoAgendaStream.com, the grumpy old Benz. Until next time, adios mofos and Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. attack on them from the right and the Russians and all their allies. So maybe we get rid of the Obama.

2:45:31 because of the killing of al-bagdadi, bagdadi, who's the responsibility? President Trump privately pushed for shooting migrants, the people ill-educated, stopped with snakes or alligators, and building an electrified border wall topped with spikes to pierce human flesh. Parting to shapeshift? The Al-Bagdagny, Bagdagny, on the dark web and nobody can find him. In the battle place, while gone to our show. Get chosen as being stupid and uneducated and now have realized that that's right. Joe Biden pushed for him to be outed. It had nothing to do with his son and everyone that's looked at it has confirmed that.

2:46:31 Yeah. Brought into Burisma that Ukrainian company that was facing the corruption charges to help with its transparency and cultural responsibility. Goat that munched through brush on migrants. Water-filled trench. Tossing people up the boat to scot-away tribes. People in San Francisco still abandoned. Don't clip this for the cartoon Betsy was her name I Researched her because I was saying I saw a picture of her I or it here's what I thought to weather balloons in a halter top, right? I

2:47:14 She, this is what she does and she does a great job of it. I think she's one of the best of it. She'll be, in fact, she'll be really big. This is everybody's favorite money, honey. Betsy. An observation is that you're creeping on Betsy there. Yeah, well, it's one of those trade secrets. People out there want to know about marketing. This is what marketing is about. Action.

2:47:51 I'm old enough that I've been to burlesque shows, the classic. I've been to a burlesque show or two. And they used to have these women who would come out with these topless, not bottomless usually, but topless, with these tassels hanging off their nipples. And they would get them spinning through a jumping jack like exercise. They'd get them going. I think this would be fun to watch. The tassels were a hilarious touch. And that was, and they would do it like on cue. And it was like, wow, you'd say to yourself. Wow. Now that's what I call talent.

2:48:47 You're all jitty about it. I'm all jacked up about it. 17 seconds of standing ovations, so I cut it down. Thank you. But people were going nuts. They're just, oh my God, there they are! This is real! Everything that he says that negative about other things or other people is what he's saying about himself. They are worthy and applaud. No, no, I have empathy towards animals. Just, you know, ants? I don't know. Ants! But I think he sees right now that he has to jump in because he has to jump in. Which is horrible for this country. Even if people

2:49:30 all working. We don't want to have a country like that. They were obviously triggered. I don't think they like me much anymore. Can I hear you knocking them dead? You're all over the place. That's good. It's the way it's supposed to work, right? Angst among people, Leon Cooperman and Jamie Dimon and Bill Gates. thinking that the hordes are coming for their money. And so you've been covering this literally minute by minute outside of the skiff and the change in narrative from Schiff has been amazing. We're gonna make it a chance that you take, but it's not a chance because you know exactly what's happening. The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A. White House liars