# Hockeystick Hoax

> A Canadian court tosses the infamous climate hockey stick lawsuit while political tensions boil over from the streets of Hong Kong to the campaign trails of Texas.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1169
- **Published:** 2019-09-05
- **Length:** 2h 48m
- **Topics:** [Hockey Stick](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hockey-stick.md), Gun Buybacks, [Hepatitis A](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hepatitis-a.md), [Hong Kong](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hong-kong.md), [Joe Biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [Michael Mann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-mann.md)
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax

## About this episode

Michael Mann faces a major legal setback after a Canadian judge dismissed his long-standing libel lawsuit against Dr. Tim Ball with prejudice. The creator of the famous climate hockey stick graph was ordered to pay legal costs after failing to produce the underlying data requested by the court. Dr. Tim Ball alleges the graph intentionally rewrote climate history by removing the Medieval Warm Period to create an illusion of unprecedented modern warming.

In Texas, a mass shooting in Odessa and Midland left five dead following a routine traffic stop involving a hijacked mail truck. The tragedy prompted Beto O'Rourke to call for mandatory gun buybacks of AR-15 and AK-47 rifles, labeling them instruments of terror. Meanwhile, Philadelphia officials declared a public health emergency due to a Hepatitis A outbreak among the homeless population, and Hong Kong police deployed blue-tinted water cannons to mark pro-democracy protesters for arrest. In Russia, thousands marched through Moscow to protest the exclusion of opposition candidates from city council elections, marking the largest dissent against Vladimir Putin in years.

Joe Biden faces renewed scrutiny over a conflated war story involving a Silver Star ceremony in Afghanistan that fact-checkers claim never happened as described. David Brooks defended the gaffe as campaign trail jostling, while the hosts explore the pharmaceutical drugging of children in Florida schools. The episode concludes with a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Cory and Sir Bradley, welcoming them to the No Agenda Roundtable under the value-for-value model.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/transcript.md.

### 1. Windows Update Glitches, Printer Driver Troubleshooting (0:00–4:14)

The hosts discuss technical difficulties following a major Windows update, including corrupted URL dialog boxes in Microsoft Outlook. One host describes a recurring issue where printing from Photoshop or IrfanView prompts a "save to file" dialog instead of executing the print job. Troubleshooting steps involve checking legacy forum posts from 2012 and attempting to reinstall printer drivers before finding a workaround by printing directly from a web browser.

Keywords: [windows update](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/windows-update.md), [outlook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/outlook.md), [photoshop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/photoshop.md), printer drivers, [tech support](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tech-support.md), [skype](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/skype.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/1.md)

### 2. Odessa and Midland Shooting, Media Panic Analysis (4:16–6:41)

A mass shooting event occurred in Odessa and Midland, Texas, resulting in five deaths and over twenty injuries. Initial media reports incorrectly suggested multiple shooters in different locations, causing panic at a local mall where no shooting took place. The perpetrator was eventually killed by police after a high-speed pursuit involving a hijacked mail truck following a routine traffic stop.

Keywords: [odessa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/odessa.md), [midland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/midland.md), [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md), [mass shooting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mass-shooting.md), [traffic stop](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/traffic-stop.md), mail truck

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Beto O'Rourke, Gun Violence Rhetoric Controversy (6:42–9:19)

Beto O'Rourke faced criticism for using profanity during a CNN interview while discussing the epidemic of gun violence in America. The discussion centers on the political divide regarding "thoughts and prayers" versus legislative action. O'Rourke advocates for universal background checks and criticizes the frequency of mass shootings, which are defined as incidents where three or more people are hit by gunfire.

Keywords: [beto o'rourke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beto-o-rourke.md), [gun violence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-violence.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [thoughts and prayers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thoughts-and-prayers.md), [fcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fcc.md), [gun control](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-control.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Mandatory Gun Buybacks, AR-15 and AK-47 Technicalities (9:20–14:18)

Beto O'Rourke proposed a mandatory gun buyback program and a national gun registry, labeling semi-automatic rifles as "weapons of war." The hosts debate the technical definitions of the AR-15 and AK-47, questioning the legality and availability of fully automatic versions in the United States. The segment highlights O'Rourke's use of emotive language, such as "instruments of terror" and "wounds of war," to describe the impact of high-velocity rounds.

Keywords: [beto o'rourke](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beto-o-rourke.md), [gun buyback](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gun-buyback.md), [ar-15](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ar-15.md), [ak-47](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ak-47.md), national gun registry, weapons of war

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Violent Crime Statistics, Media Sensationalism Trends (14:18–17:41)

Analysis of violent crime data from 1990 to 2017 shows a significant decrease in incidents per 100,000 people, yet public perception of danger remains high. The hosts argue that increased access to digital media and the "if it bleeds, it leads" philosophy of mainstream news outlets creates a state of constant terror. They contrast the heavy coverage of mass shootings with the lack of attention given to daily violence in cities like Oakland or a recent shooting at an Alabama high school football game.

Keywords: [violent crime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/violent-crime.md), [statistics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/statistics.md), [mainstream media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mainstream-media.md), [terrorism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terrorism.md), [fear mongering](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fear-mongering.md), [crime rates](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/crime-rates.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Austin Homelessness Town Hall, Behavioral Health Terminology (17:42–26:46)

A two-hour town hall meeting in Austin, Texas, addressed the city's homelessness crisis and the lifting of camping ordinances. Officials introduced the term "behavioral health" to describe the intersection of lifestyle habits and mental well-being. Tensions rose between city advocates, who referred to the homeless as "neighbors experiencing homelessness" or "camping," and residents concerned about public safety and sanitation.

Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [homelessness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homelessness.md), [behavioral health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/behavioral-health.md), [city council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-council.md), [camping ordinance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/camping-ordinance.md), police data

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/6.md)

### 7. City Council Corruption, Local Government Salaries (26:48–29:01)

The hosts discuss the perceived incompetence and petty corruption within city councils across the United States, from Port Angeles to Austin. They note that Austin City Council members earn approximately $76,000 annually, which they contrast with other municipalities where positions are largely volunteer-based. The conversation touches on the lack of qualified candidates willing to run for local office.

Keywords: [city council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-council.md), [corruption](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/corruption.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [port angeles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/port-angeles.md), [local government](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/local-government.md), [salaries](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/salaries.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/7.md)

### 8. South Austin Homeless Shelters, Affordable Housing Initiatives (29:01–30:56)

Austin city leaders approved an $8.5 million purchase of an office building on Ben White Boulevard to convert into a homeless shelter, sparking a petition with over 5,700 signatures from local residents. Additionally, a Salvation Army facility on Tannehill Lane remains unoccupied due to funding and certification delays. The city also announced plans to purchase 300 affordable homes, with a portion reserved for individuals with disabilities or critical needs.

Keywords: [south austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/south-austin.md), [homeless shelters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeless-shelters.md), salvation army, [affordable housing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/affordable-housing.md), ben white boulevard

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/8.md)

### 9. Philadelphia Hepatitis A Outbreak, Public Health Emergency (30:57–34:07)

Philadelphia officials declared a public health emergency following a surge in Hepatitis A cases, primarily affecting the homeless population and drug users. The city plans to install hand-washing stations and public toilets in areas like Kensington's McPherson Park to contain the contagious virus. The hosts discuss the long-term health risks of the disease, which can cause chronic liver damage.

Keywords: [philadelphia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/philadelphia.md), [hepatitis a](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hepatitis-a.md), [public health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/public-health.md), [vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccine.md), [sanitation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sanitation.md), liver disease

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Hong Kong Protests, Blue Dye Water Cannons (34:09–36:38)

During the 13th week of pro-democracy unrest in Hong Kong, police utilized water cannons filled with blue-tinted dye to mark protesters for later identification and arrest. The demonstrations coincided with the five-year anniversary of China's decision to limit democratic elections in the territory. Protesters continued to use makeshift shields and umbrellas to defend against tear gas and police tactics.

Keywords: [hong kong](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hong-kong.md), [china](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/china.md), [democracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy.md), water cannons, blue dye, umbrella movement

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Retail Fraud, Broadcasting Wardrobe Habits (36:38–38:15)

The hosts share anecdotes about women in the broadcasting industry who allegedly purchase expensive outfits, wear them on-air with the tags hidden by tape, and then return them to the store. This practice was reportedly common at media companies like Tech TV and Mevio. The discussion highlights the dishonesty of "wardrobing" and the use of dye tags by retailers to prevent such returns.

Keywords: retail fraud, [broadcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/broadcasting.md), [wardrobe](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wardrobe.md), [tech tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tech-tv.md), [mevio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mevio.md), clothing tags

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Hong Kong Airport Disruptions, Military Buildup (38:14–41:06)

Pro-democracy rallies in Hong Kong shifted focus to the international airport and train services to draw global attention to the movement. Reports indicate a significant military buildup by Beijing near the border, which Chinese officials claim is a routine rotation of forces. Footage emerged of riot police engaging in violent confrontations with citizens inside subway trains.

Keywords: hong kong airport, [beijing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/beijing.md), military buildup, [tanks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tanks.md), [civil unrest](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/civil-unrest.md), [train stations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/train-stations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/12.md)

### 13. Moscow Pro-Democracy Protests, Vladimir Putin Dissent (41:07–42:29)

Thousands of demonstrators marched in Moscow to protest the exclusion of opposition candidates from the upcoming city council elections. These rallies represent the largest showing of dissent in Russia in over five years, with participants chanting for a free Russia. The hosts speculate on the stability of Vladimir Putin's leadership amidst the growing unrest.

Keywords: [moscow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moscow.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [vladimir putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vladimir-putin.md), [city council](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/city-council.md), [election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/election.md), [dissent](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dissent.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Boston Straight Pride Parade, Counter-Protest Volatility (42:29–46:47)

A "Straight Pride Parade" in Boston organized by John Hugo was met with significant counter-protests from the LGBTQ community and Antifa. Police in riot gear were deployed to manage the volatility, resulting in over a dozen arrests. Local students at Emerson College expressed fear and opposition to the event, while organizers claimed they were celebrating traditional American values.

Keywords: [boston](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boston.md), straight pride parade, [antifa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antifa.md), [lgbtq](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lgbtq.md), emerson college, counter-protest

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/14.md)

### 15. University of Vermont Sticker Controversy, Hate Speech Allegations (46:47–50:00)

The University of Vermont and Burlington Police involved the FBI after stickers from a group called "Patriots Front" were found on campus. The stickers featured slogans such as "Better Dead Than Red" and "Keep America American," which students and faculty labeled as white nationalist hate speech. The hosts mock the severity of the reaction, noting that "Better Dead Than Red" is a Cold War-era anti-communist slogan.

Keywords: university of vermont, [hate speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hate-speech.md), patriots front, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), anti-communism, [stickers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stickers.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Dave Chappelle Special, Generational Evolution Debate (50:00–53:41)

The hosts discuss the reaction to Dave Chappelle's latest comedy special, framing the criticism as a conflict between "evolved" thinking and traditional humor. They argue that younger generations use the concept of social evolution to dismiss older perspectives as obsolete or bigoted. The conversation touches on the disconnect between older media figures and modern pop culture trends.

Keywords: [dave chappelle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dave-chappelle.md), [comedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comedy.md), [ageism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ageism.md), [millennials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/millennials.md), social evolution, [political correctness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-correctness.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Dior Ad Controversy, Calvin Klein Plus-Size Branding (54:37–57:59)

Dior pulled a fragrance advertisement featuring Johnny Depp and a Native American dancer following accusations of cultural appropriation. Meanwhile, Calvin Klein has shifted its marketing strategy from the "heroin chic" look of the 1990s to featuring plus-size models. The hosts discuss changing beauty standards and the influence of the Kardashian aesthetic on modern body image.

Keywords: [dior](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dior.md), [johnny depp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/johnny-depp.md), [cultural appropriation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cultural-appropriation.md), calvin klein, plus-size models, [kim kardashian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kim-kardashian.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Homelessness Experience Theme Park Concept (58:01–1:01:16)

In a satirical segment, the hosts brainstorm a "Homelessness Experience" ride for Disney World, modeled after Pirates of the Caribbean. The concept includes animatronic encampments, "rivers of pee," and virtual reality simulations of urban decay. The ride would conclude with a "politician" section where guests are told that more housing is the only solution.

Keywords: [disneyland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disneyland.md), [homelessness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homelessness.md), [virtual reality](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/virtual-reality.md), [animatronics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/animatronics.md), [satire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satire.md), theme park

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/18.md)

### 19. No Agenda Stream, Value for Value System (1:01:16–1:04:59)

The hosts promote the No Agenda Stream and the "value for value" model, thanking artist Darren O'Neill for his recent show artwork. They encourage listeners to contribute through jingles, art, or financial donations rather than traditional advertising. The segment highlights the community-driven nature of the program and the various ways producers support the show's infrastructure.

Keywords: [no agenda stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-stream.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [artwork](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artwork.md), [community](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/community.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Executive Producer Donations, Trump 404 Error Page (1:04:59–1:09:48)

During the donation segment, the hosts mention a humorous 404 error page on the Trump campaign website that features an image of Hillary Clinton in front of the White House with a message that the page doesn't exist. They acknowledge high-tier donations from producers like Cory Turner and Baronet Stefan, providing "health karma" and "job karma" in return.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [trump campaign](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-campaign.md), 404 error, [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/20.md)

### 21. HPPD Mental Health, LSD Flashbacks Research (1:09:50–1:13:55)

A producer shares a story about his twin brother suffering from Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder (HPPD), a rare condition caused by LSD use that results in constant visual distortions and chronic head pressure. The hosts discuss the severity of the illness and ask the audience for any information or potential treatments. The segment includes a call for medical insights to be sent to a specific email address.

Keywords: hppd, [lsd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lsd.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md), flashbacks, [hallucinogens](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hallucinogens.md), [neurology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/neurology.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Pediatric Surgery Success, Ronald McDonald House (1:14:04–1:18:50)

A listener provides an update on his son, Emmett, who underwent successful surgery for Pierre Robin sequence at UCSF Benioff Children's Hospital. The story highlights the challenges of medical insurance approvals and the support provided by the Ronald McDonald House during the family's stay in San Francisco. The hosts credit "medical karma" and community support for the positive outcome.

Keywords: pediatric surgery, [ucsf](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ucsf.md), benioff children's hospital, [ronald mcdonald house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ronald-mcdonald-house.md), pierre robin sequence, [medical karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medical-karma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Cursive Writing Styles, Social Security Disability Struggles (1:18:52–1:25:53)

A 71-year-old donor's handwritten note prompts a discussion on the history of cursive writing, including the Palmer Method and distinct French longhand styles. The donor describes her struggle to get Social Security disability approval for her daughter and the health impacts of pharmaceutical drugs. The hosts reflect on the difficulty of navigating government bureaucracy for families in need.

Keywords: [cursive](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cursive.md), palmer method, [social security](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-security.md), [disability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disability.md), [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md), [longhand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/longhand.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/23.md)

### 24. No Agenda Show Credits, Mueller Report Satire (1:25:54–1:28:09)

The hosts conclude the first donation segment by thanking their executive and associate executive producers, jokingly citing the Mueller Report's supposed endorsement of the show. They emphasize that the listeners are the true producers of the content through their financial and creative support.

Keywords: [mueller report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mueller-report.md), podcast credits, [executive producers](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producers.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [donation segment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation-segment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Michael Mann Libel Lawsuit, Hockey Stick Graph Dismissal (1:28:10–1:31:20)

A long-standing libel lawsuit filed by climatologist Michael Mann against Dr. Tim Ball was dismissed with prejudice by a Canadian judge. Mann, the creator of the famous "hockey stick" temperature graph, was ordered to pay Ball's legal costs after failing to produce underlying data for the court. The hosts discuss the implications of this ruling for the global warming debate and the transparency of climate science.

Keywords: [michael mann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-mann.md), dr. tim ball, libel lawsuit, [hockey stick graph](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hockey-stick-graph.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [ipcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipcc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Dr. Tim Ball Interview, Climate History Rewriting (1:31:20–1:36:49)

In a featured audio clip, Dr. Tim Ball explains his defense against Michael Mann's lawsuit, alleging that Mann "rewrote climate history" by removing the Medieval Warm Period from his models. Ball claims Mann grafted modern instrumental temperature records onto cherry-picked tree ring data to create the illusion of unprecedented warming. The segment criticizes the UN IPCC for using the hockey stick graph as a primary tool for climate policy.

Keywords: dr. tim ball, [michael mann](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-mann.md), [medieval warm period](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/medieval-warm-period.md), tree rings, [climate data](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-data.md), [ipcc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipcc.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Hurricane Dorian Forecast, Scooter-nado Satire (1:36:51–1:39:49)

Hurricane Dorian, a Category 4 storm, is projected to hit the Bahamas with 150 mph winds before potentially skirting the Florida coast. The hosts mock the inaccuracy of "spaghetti" weather models and joke about a "Scooter-nado" occurring if the storm hits Austin, Texas, and lofts thousands of dockless electric scooters into the air.

Keywords: [hurricane dorian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hurricane-dorian.md), [bahamas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bahamas.md), [florida](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida.md), [weather models](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/weather-models.md), [electric scooters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-scooters.md), [storm surge](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/storm-surge.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Netherlands Power Grid Capacity, Robotic Chicken Processing (1:39:50–1:44:01)

The Netherlands is facing a power grid crisis as the push for electrification and the removal of natural gas from homes exceeds the grid's capacity. The hosts discuss the unintended consequences of green energy policies and a report on robotic chicken processing plants in the country. A local source claims the shift to robotics was driven by a lack of migrant labor rather than environmental concerns.

Keywords: [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [power grid](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/power-grid.md), [electric vehicles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-vehicles.md), [natural gas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/natural-gas.md), [robotics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robotics.md), [labor shortage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/labor-shortage.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/28.md)

### 29. David Brooks on Trump Mental Fitness (1:44:02–1:47:12)

David Brooks discussed President Trump's mental fitness on PBS, citing verbal patterns and factual errors regarding his father's birthplace and Melania Trump's relationship with Kim Jong-un. The hosts analyze Brooks' commentary, noting that while Trump's statements are often inaccurate, the media's focus on his psychological state has become a recurring theme.

Keywords: [david brooks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-brooks.md), [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [mental fitness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-fitness.md), [g7 summit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/g7-summit.md), [kim jong-un](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kim-jong-un.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/29.md)

### 30. Joe Biden War Stories, Memory vs. Mendacity (1:47:12–1:50:13)

David Brooks defended Joe Biden's conflated war stories, attributing them to the "jostling" of the campaign trail rather than intentional lying. The hosts criticize this double standard, arguing that Biden's embellishments are often designed to improve his dramatic effect and personal image. They compare Biden's storytelling to other public figures like Brian Williams and Hillary Clinton.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [david brooks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-brooks.md), war stories, [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), silver star, [campaign trail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/campaign-trail.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/30.md)

### 31. Biden Medal Story Deconstruction, "Word as a Biden" (1:50:13–1:54:21)

The Washington Post deconstructed a story Joe Biden frequently tells about pinning a Silver Star on a Navy captain in Afghanistan's Kunar Valley. Fact-checkers found that Biden conflated three different events, misidentified the soldier's rank, and was a Senator rather than Vice President at the time. Despite the inaccuracies, Biden maintained that the "central point" of the story was accurate.

Keywords: [joe biden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-biden.md), [washington post](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/washington-post.md), [afghanistan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afghanistan.md), silver star, [fact check](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fact-check.md), kunar province

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/31.md)

### 32. David Brooks on Democratic Strategy, Never-Trumper Bias (1:54:21–1:56:45)

In an interview on Book TV, David Brooks expressed optimism that President Trump will lose the 2020 election, advising Democrats to "go with the bland" to ensure a victory. Brooks admitted he has no desire to be in the same room as the President, leading the hosts to label him a "Never-Trumper" whose reporting is compromised by personal bias.

Keywords: [david brooks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-brooks.md), [book tv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/book-tv.md), [never-trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/never-trump.md), [democratic party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democratic-party.md), [2020 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2020-election.md), [house of representatives](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-of-representatives.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Pharmaceutical Drugging of Children, Ritalin and Prozac (1:56:45–2:01:13)

Former teacher Barbie Rivera shares her experience with the over-medication of children in the public school system, noting that her own son was labeled "mentally handicapped" in first grade. She describes seeing five-year-olds who have been on Prozac for half their lives and the "shell of a body" effect these drugs have on young children. Rivera now runs an accredited private school that focuses on drug-free education.

Keywords: [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md), [ritalin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ritalin.md), [prozac](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prozac.md), [homeschooling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homeschooling.md), [adhd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adhd.md), childhood medication

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Drug Study Kickbacks for Educators, FIU Funding (2:01:13–2:05:16)

Barbie Rivera alleges that pharmaceutical companies and Florida International University offered financial incentives to school principals for enrolling children in drug studies. She claims she was offered $100 for student contact info, $500 for mental health checklists, and $5,000 for every child successfully placed on a new medication like Intuniv. The hosts express outrage at the potential for widespread corruption in the education system.

Keywords: drug studies, [florida international university](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/florida-international-university.md), intuniv, [kickbacks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/kickbacks.md), school principals, [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Opioid Crisis Legal Theories, Stanford Law Analysis (2:05:17–2:08:34)

A Stanford Law expert discusses the legal challenges of the opioid crisis, suggesting that while companies like Johnson & Johnson are being held liable, the products themselves remain in demand for legitimate pain management. The discussion touches on the risk of states "raiding" settlement funds for general budget needs rather than addiction treatment, similar to the 1990s tobacco settlements.

Keywords: [opioids](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opioids.md), [johnson & johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/johnson-johnson.md), stanford law, [litigation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/litigation.md), settlement funds, tobacco settlement

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Surgeon General Marijuana Warning, THC Potency (2:08:35–2:11:31)

Surgeon General Jerome Adams issued a national warning against marijuana use by adolescents and pregnant women, claiming modern cannabis is significantly more potent than in previous decades. The hosts criticize the government's shifting stance on marijuana research and suggest that the warning is a precursor to stricter federal regulation of THC levels in legal markets.

Keywords: [surgeon general](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surgeon-general.md), [marijuana](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/marijuana.md), [thc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/thc.md), [jerome adams](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerome-adams.md), adolescent health, [regulation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/regulation.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Birthday Donations, Anniversary Tributes (2:11:32–2:20:01)

The hosts read a series of $55 donations in honor of Adam Curry's 55th birthday, as well as a 15th-anniversary tribute from a listener to her husband. The segment reinforces the "value for value" model and the personal connections within the listener community.

Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [birthday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthday.md), [anniversary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anniversary.md), [podfather](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podfather.md), [community](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/community.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Knighting Ceremony, No Agenda Roundtable (2:20:02–2:22:22)

The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for three high-tier donors: Sir Cory, Sir BT, and Sir Bradley. They are welcomed to the No Agenda Roundtable and granted their symbolic titles and "mutton and mead" rations. The segment directs new knights to the program's official website to claim their rings.

Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), sir cory, sir bt, sir bradley, [no agenda nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-nation.md), [roundtable](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roundtable.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/38.md)

### 39. No Agenda Meetups, Face-to-Face Communication (2:22:22–2:28:13)

Reports from a successful meetup in Victoria, BC, highlight the importance of face-to-face communication in an era of polarized social media. The hosts list upcoming meetups in Seattle, Calgary, Zurich, Orlando, and Pittsburgh, encouraging listeners to gather and discuss topics freely. A new song by Jesse Coy Nelson celebrating the meetups is played.

Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [victoria bc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/victoria-bc.md), [seattle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/seattle.md), [zurich](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zurich.md), [pittsburgh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pittsburgh.md), [community building](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/community-building.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/39.md)

### 40. Brexit Suspension, Boris Johnson Strategy (2:28:14–2:32:57)

The UK faces a countdown to the October 31st Brexit deadline as Prime Minister Boris Johnson moves to suspend Parliament. Protests have erupted across the country, with critics accusing Johnson of being anti-democratic, while supporters in the Midlands argue that Parliament is defying the 2016 referendum results. The hosts question the legal mechanics of the final exit and whether it requires a specific signature or proclamation.

Keywords: [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [boris johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boris-johnson.md), [parliament](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/parliament.md), [european union](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/european-union.md), [no-deal brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-deal-brexit.md), [democracy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democracy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/40.md)

### 41. Jeffrey Epstein Associates, Prince Andrew Deep Fake Claims (2:32:58–2:35:51)

Lawyers for Prince Andrew are reportedly claiming that a famous photo of him at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion is a "deep fake." The hosts also discuss Nicole Junkermann, a German-born ex-model and Epstein associate with ties to high-level tech investments and international figures like Ehud Barak. The segment explores the ongoing investigation into Epstein's network and potential intelligence connections.

Keywords: [jeffrey epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-epstein.md), [prince andrew](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prince-andrew.md), nicole junkermann, [ehud barak](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ehud-barak.md), [deep fake](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deep-fake.md), [mossad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mossad.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/41.md)

### 42. Zorro Ranch, New Mexico Observatory Closure (2:35:51–2:38:20)

The hosts revisit the 2018 closure of the Sunspot Solar Observatory in New Mexico, noting its proximity to Jeffrey Epstein's Zorro Ranch. While the closure was officially linked to a child pornography investigation involving an employee, the hosts question why the nearby ranch was not raided at the same time. They express skepticism regarding the official narrative of Epstein's suicide and the failure of prison security cameras.

Keywords: [zorro ranch](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zorro-ranch.md), [jeffrey epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-epstein.md), [new mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-mexico.md), sunspot observatory, [child pornography](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-pornography.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/42.md)

### 43. William Barr Holiday Party, Trump Hotel Ethics (2:38:20–2:43:25)

Attorney General William Barr is facing criticism for booking a $30,000 private holiday party at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. While the event does not violate the law, critics argue it skirts ethical lines regarding the emoluments clause. Justice Department officials claim other venues were fully booked, but the hosts suggest the move is a needless distraction that fuels political tension.

Keywords: [william barr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/william-barr.md), [trump international hotel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump-international-hotel.md), [ethics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ethics.md), [emoluments clause](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/emoluments-clause.md), [justice department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/justice-department.md), [holiday party](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holiday-party.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/43.md)

### 44. Show Sign-off, End of Show Mixes (2:43:25–2:48:01)

The hosts sign off from "Opportunity Zone 33" in Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley, wishing listeners a happy Labor Day weekend. They preview the next episode and play a series of end-of-show mixes featuring community-contributed music and satirical clips. The episode concludes with a final birthday wish for the "Podfather."

Keywords: [sign-off](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sign-off.md), [opportunity zone 33](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/opportunity-zone-33.md), [holiday](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/holiday.md), [end of show mix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/end-of-show-mix.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [adios mofos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/adios-mofos.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1169-hockeystick-hoax/chapter/44.md)

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