# Taking a Mueller > The Special Counsel appears physically diminished before Congress as critics expose edited transcripts and the partisan influence of Andrew Weissman behind the Russia investigation. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 1158 - **Published:** 2019-07-28 - **Length:** 2h 46m - **Topics:** Mueller Testimony, Andrew Weissman, Bitcoin Regulation, [Boris Johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boris-johnson.md), [Jeffrey Epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-epstein.md), [Modern Monetary Theory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/modern-monetary-theory.md) - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller ## About this episode Robert Mueller appeared physically frail and cognitively strained during his highly anticipated testimony before the House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees. Representative Mike Turner challenged the Special Counsel on the legal validity of the term exoneration, while Representative Louie Gohmert pressed for answers regarding the partisan animus of Peter Strzok and the deletion of government text messages. The hearing was marked by Mueller’s frequent inability to recall basic biographical facts or details from his own 22-month investigation. Lead prosecutor Andrew Weissman is identified as the primary architect of the report, operating while Mueller served as a mere figurehead. The Special Counsel’s office faced scrutiny for editing transcripts of voicemails from John Dowd to Michael Flynn to remove exculpatory context and for failing to produce evidence linking Russian troll farms to the Kremlin in court. Meanwhile, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin signaled potential regulatory crackdowns on Bitcoin, and Boris Johnson assumed the role of UK Prime Minister with a firm October 31 Brexit deadline. C-SPAN caller Cornelius from Alexandria alleged that Mueller ignored death threats during his tenure as a federal official, while comedian Eliza Schlesinger joked about the subjective standards of the Me Too movement. The episode also highlights the satirical Birds Aren't Real movement and the New York Times utilizing child actors to read migrant letters as a form of political theater. John C. Dvorak concludes with a critique of the common mispronunciation of the word zoological. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/transcript.md. ### 1. Robert Mueller Testimony, Cognitive Decline and Performance (0:00–4:00) Robert Mueller appeared before Congress to testify regarding his investigation into Russian election interference and potential obstruction of justice. Observers noted that Mueller appeared physically frail and struggled to answer questions, frequently referring back to the written report or claiming the subject was outside his purview. The presence of an FBI aide next to him was interpreted as a "security blanket" for a witness who seemed incapable of withstanding rigorous cross-examination. Keywords: [robert mueller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-mueller.md), [mueller report](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mueller-report.md), [house judiciary committee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-judiciary-committee.md), [cognitive decline](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cognitive-decline.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/1.md) ### 2. C-SPAN Caller Cornelius, Allegations of Mueller Misconduct (4:01–6:26) A C-SPAN caller named Cornelius from Alexandria, Louisiana, claimed to have had negative personal dealings with Robert Mueller during his time as a federal correctional officer. The caller alleged that Mueller and the FBI ignored his reports of death threats and instead framed him for threatening a warden to stop an EEOC complaint. Cornelius characterized Mueller as a "phony and a fraud" while expressing hope for a presidential pardon from Donald Trump. Keywords: [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [robert mueller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-mueller.md), oakdale prison, [presidential pardon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/presidential-pardon.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Peter Strzok Animus, Mueller Staff Partisanship (6:26–8:42) Representative Louie Gohmert questioned Robert Mueller regarding the hiring of Peter Strzok and the discovery of his anti-Trump text messages. Mueller claimed he was unaware of Strzok's animus toward Donald Trump or his affair with Lisa Page prior to hiring him for the Special Counsel team. Further questioning focused on whether Mueller ordered an investigation into the deletion of text messages from government phones, which Mueller deferred to an ongoing Inspector General investigation. Keywords: [peter strzok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peter-strzok.md), [lisa page](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lisa-page.md), [louie gohmert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/louie-gohmert.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [political bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/political-bias.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/3.md) ### 4. Michael Flynn Case, Edited Transcript Omissions (8:42–10:27) Representative Tom McClintock accused the Special Counsel's office of editing a transcript of a voicemail from John Dowd to Michael Flynn's lawyer to remove exculpatory context. The edited version in the Mueller report allegedly made it appear that Dowd was improperly seeking confidential information, while the full transcript released by a judge showed he explicitly asked for information "without giving up any confidential information." Mueller disputed the characterization that his team intentionally hid evidence. Keywords: [michael flynn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-flynn.md), john dowd, [tom mcclintock](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-mcclintock.md), [exculpatory evidence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exculpatory-evidence.md), [legal counsel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/legal-counsel.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Andrew Weissman, Concord Management and Arthur Anderson (10:27–14:14) The Special Counsel's office faced criticism for failing to produce evidence in court linking the Russian Internet Research Agency troll farms directly to the Russian government, despite making that claim in the report. Lead prosecutor Andrew Weissman is identified as the primary driver of the investigation, with critics drawing parallels to his past work on the Arthur Anderson case, which was later overturned by the Supreme Court. Weissman is characterized as a partisan figure who operated while Mueller served as a mere figurehead. Keywords: andrew weissman, concord management, arthur anderson, [internet research agency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/internet-research-agency.md), [enron](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/enron.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Media Coverage, Network News Reactions to Mueller (14:14–18:24) Major news networks provided extensive wrap-up coverage of the Mueller testimony, with varying degrees of perceived bias. CBS and anchor Nora O'Donnell were criticized for a strongly anti-Trump stance, while NBC was noted as being relatively more balanced. The coverage focused heavily on Mueller's confirmation that his report did not "exonerate" the president and his statement that a president could theoretically be charged with obstruction after leaving office. Keywords: [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [cbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs.md), [abc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc.md), [nora o'donnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nora-o-donnell.md), [david muir](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-muir.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/6.md) ### 7. Ted Lieu, OLC Opinion Retraction (18:24–22:26) Representative Ted Lieu attempted to lead Robert Mueller into admitting that the only reason Donald Trump was not indicted was due to the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinion prohibiting the indictment of a sitting president. While Mueller initially agreed with Lieu's framing, he later issued a formal retraction during the afternoon session. Mueller clarified that the team did not reach a determination on whether a crime was committed, rather than being solely blocked by the OLC guideline. Keywords: [ted lieu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-lieu.md), olc, [obstruction of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/obstruction-of-justice.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [house judiciary committee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-judiciary-committee.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/7.md) ### 8. Mueller Memory Lapses, Purview Limitations (22:28–25:16) During testimony, Robert Mueller struggled with basic biographical facts, such as which president appointed him as a U.S. Attorney, incorrectly naming George W. Bush instead of Ronald Reagan. He also refused to answer whether his 22-month investigation found evidence that any American voter changed their vote due to Russian interference, claiming the impact of the meddling was outside his "purview." Keywords: [ronald reagan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ronald-reagan.md), [george w. bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-w-bush.md), bronze star, [memory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/memory.md), [russian meddling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russian-meddling.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Democratic Strategy, Impeachment Rhetoric (25:18–28:16) Pundits on MSNBC, including Chuck Todd, described the Mueller testimony as an "optics disaster" for Democrats who had hoped for a more impactful performance. Despite the perceived failure of the hearing to change the narrative, Democratic representatives like Ted Lieu continued to label the president a "felon" in post-hearing media appearances. Leadership like Nancy Pelosi indicated that investigations would continue into Trump's finances to keep the pressure on until the 2020 election. Keywords: [chuck todd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chuck-todd.md), [eric swalwell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eric-swalwell.md), [jerry nadler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jerry-nadler.md), [impeachment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impeachment.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Fusion GPS, Trump Tower Server Allegations (28:17–31:08) Robert Mueller claimed to be unfamiliar with Fusion GPS, the firm that produced the Steele dossier, which critics cited as evidence of his lack of involvement in the investigation's details. Representative Will Hurd questioned Mueller on debunked reports regarding Michael Cohen visiting Prague and a Trump Tower server communicating with Russia's Alpha Bank. Mueller stated he did not believe the server story was true, though it had been widely reported by outlets like Slate. Keywords: [fusion gps](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fusion-gps.md), [steele dossier](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steele-dossier.md), alpha bank, [michael cohen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-cohen.md), [prague](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prague.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Lester Holt Editorial, Media Universes (31:09–33:34) Lester Holt concluded an NBC news broadcast with a short editorial regarding the "separate universes" in which Americans exist following the Mueller report. The commentary was compared to old-fashioned news editorials by figures like Walter Cronkite. Critics interpreted Holt's remarks as suggesting that those who do not believe the president is guilty are living in a "wrong universe," highlighting the deep divide in media narratives. Keywords: [lester holt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lester-holt.md), [nbc nightly news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc-nightly-news.md), [editorial](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/editorial.md), [media bias](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-bias.md), [nora o'donnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nora-o-donnell.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Mueller Question Repetitions, Running Out the Clock (33:34–35:16) A compilation of clips from the Mueller hearing shows the Special Counsel repeatedly asking representatives to restate their questions or provide page numbers from his own report. While some observers viewed this as a sign of cognitive decline, others suggested it was a tactical move to run out the clock and limit the number of substantive questions asked during the five-minute rounds. Keywords: [house intelligence committee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/house-intelligence-committee.md), [testimony](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/testimony.md), stalling, [cross-examination](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cross-examination.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/12.md) ### 13. Representative Turner, Legal Definition of Exoneration (35:16–39:31) Representative Mike Turner challenged Robert Mueller on the use of the word "exonerate" in his report, noting that it is not a legal term found in the U.S. Code or Department of Justice manuals. Turner argued that because the Attorney General does not have the power to exonerate, Mueller had no authority to use the term regarding the president. The exchange highlighted that the "not exonerated" headline was a media framing rather than a standard legal determination. Keywords: [mike turner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-turner.md), [exoneration](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/exoneration.md), u.s. code, [bill barr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-barr.md), [department of justice](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/department-of-justice.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/13.md) ### 14. C-SPAN Caller James, Democratic Impeachment Tactics (39:31–43:17) A C-SPAN caller from Phoenix named James alleged a "vast conspiracy" involving news broadcasts delaying election results in 2016. Following the call, the discussion shifted to Nancy Pelosi's strategy of maintaining multiple committee investigations into Donald Trump's finances and Russian ties. The goal is described as "keeping the pot boiling" through the 2020 election cycle, despite the lack of Senate support for impeachment. Keywords: [c-span](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/c-span.md), [phoenix](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/phoenix.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [impeachment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impeachment.md), [2020 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2020-election.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Andrew Weissman Influence, Ted Turner Anecdote (43:18–46:37) The discussion reiterates that Andrew Weissman was the true architect of the Mueller report, while Mueller acted as a figurehead. Representative Devin Nunes is praised for his opening statement condemning the presence of an FBI aide during the testimony. The segment concludes with a comparison between Mueller's public appearance and a documentary depiction of Ted Turner's struggle with dementia, framing the hearing as "cruel" to an aging public servant. Keywords: andrew weissman, [devin nunes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/devin-nunes.md), [jane fonda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jane-fonda.md), [ted turner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ted-turner.md), [dementia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dementia.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Jeffrey Epstein, Suicide Attempt Investigation (46:46–48:13) Investigators are looking into an incident at the Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC) where Jeffrey Epstein was found with neck injuries. Sources suggest it may have been a suicide attempt or an assault by a cellmate, possibly former police officer Nicholas Tartaglione. Epstein had previously been denied bail on sex trafficking charges and was being held in a secure area of the jail. Keywords: [jeffrey epstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeffrey-epstein.md), mcc, [sex trafficking](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sex-trafficking.md), [suicide attempt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/suicide-attempt.md), nicholas tartaglione [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Salvatore Cincinelli, FBI Suicide in Austin (48:13–50:31) Reports from True Pundit claim that Salvatore Cincinelli, a former Wall Street broker and FBI official who investigated the Clinton Foundation, committed suicide at an Austin nightclub. The report alleges that FBI agents present at the scene told witnesses to delete photos and videos. The lack of local media coverage in Austin has led to speculation regarding the validity of the story or a potential cover-up. Keywords: salvatore cincinelli, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [clinton foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-foundation.md), true pundit [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Modern Monetary Theory, Goldman Sachs Stability (50:32–53:14) A discussion on Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) suggests that the U.S. economy can sustain massive debt and money printing without immediate collapse, citing the Trump tax cuts as evidence. However, warnings are issued regarding the stability of major financial institutions. Following the decline of Deutsche Bank, rumors suggest Goldman Sachs may be facing significant internal trouble, reminiscent of the 2007 financial crisis. Keywords: [modern monetary theory](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/modern-monetary-theory.md), [goldman sachs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/goldman-sachs.md), [deutsche bank](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/deutsche-bank.md), [economy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/economy.md), [tax cuts](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tax-cuts.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Snap Inc. Earnings, WPP CEO Prediction (53:15–55:27) Snap Inc. reported strong earnings and revenue growth, leading to a significant jump in its stock price. This follows a prediction by the CEO of WPP, the world's largest advertising conglomerate, who recently praised Snapchat's turnaround and new technology. The success of the platform is attributed to its appeal to advertisers and improved user engagement. Keywords: [snapchat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/snapchat.md), [wpp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wpp.md), [advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/advertising.md), earnings, [stock market](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stock-market.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/19.md) ### 20. John C. Dvorak Pet Peeve, Zoological Pronunciation (55:28–56:59) John C. Dvorak highlights a common pronunciation error made by professional announcers regarding the word "zoological." He notes that the correct pronunciation should be "zo-o-logical" rather than "zu-logical," using a news report about "Chance the Gator" at the St. Augustine Alligator Farm as a specific example of the mistake. Keywords: [pet peeve](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pet-peeve.md), [pronunciation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pronunciation.md), zoological, [st. augustine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/st-augustine.md), alligator farm [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/20.md) ### 21. Measles Scripting, Law and Order SVU Propaganda (57:00–1:00:03) A series of clips from a 2009 episode of Law and Order: SVU are analyzed as examples of "foundation-scripted" propaganda regarding measles and vaccinations. The clips depict a mother being shamed and legally threatened after her unvaccinated son allegedly spreads measles to another child. The discussion suggests that these media cycles repeat every ten years to push specific pharmaceutical agendas. Keywords: [measles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/measles.md), [law and order svu](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/law-and-order-svu.md), [vaccines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vaccines.md), [big pharma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/big-pharma.md), [hollywood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hollywood.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/21.md) ### 22. HPV Vaccine, No Agenda Art and Stream (1:00:03–1:03:21) The discussion touches on Merck's push for universal HPV vaccination (Gardasil) to create "herd immunity." The segment then transitions into show logistics, thanking Mike Riley for the "Carbon Captions" artwork for episode 1157. The hosts promote the 24/7 No Agenda Stream and the Art Generator, which provides artwork for the show, newsletters, and merchandise. Keywords: [hpv vaccine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hpv-vaccine.md), [gardasil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gardasil.md), [no agenda stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-stream.md), [mike riley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mike-riley.md), carbon captions [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Sponsor segment: Executive Producer Donations, Baron of the Philippines (1:03:21–1:05:34) Sir Anthony Trushknitch, the Baron of the Philippines, is thanked for his donation of $315.22. He requested "baby-making goat karma" and mentioned an upcoming No Agenda meetup in St. Louis. The hosts play a "69" jingle and discuss a requested "Putin connection" audio clip that was difficult to locate. Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [st. louis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/st-louis.md), [baby-making karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baby-making-karma.md), [putin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/putin.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Closed Captions, Millennial Media Consumption (1:05:34–1:08:51) A donor, Sir Jobiwan, discusses his habit of watching television with closed captions, a trend noted among millennials. While some attribute this to watching subtitled anime or poor audio quality from Bluetooth soundbars, the hosts suggest it may indicate an "auditory processing issue" in younger generations who struggle to focus on spoken dialogue without visual aid. Keywords: closed captions, [millennials](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/millennials.md), [auditory processing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/auditory-processing.md), [anime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anime.md), [bluetooth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bluetooth.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/24.md) ### 25. Hillary 2020 Prediction, Interpolation vs Extrapolation (1:08:51–1:12:12) The hosts debate the possibility of Hillary Clinton entering the 2020 presidential race, with a deadline set for October. A listener's email corrects a previous discussion on "cataract analogies," explaining the difference between interpolation (filling in blanks within known data) and extrapolation (filling in data outside known boundaries). The segment ends with a mention of a potential meetup in Northeast Ohio. Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [2020 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2020-election.md), [jeb bush](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeb-bush.md), interpolation, extrapolation [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/25.md) ### 26. Anti-Police Sentiment, New York Water Dousing Incidents (1:12:14–1:15:37) An anonymous donor and law enforcement officer describes a growing anti-police sentiment in major cities, fueled by what they claim are statistical lies about police shootings. Recent videos from Brooklyn and Harlem show residents dousing NYPD officers with buckets of water during routine stops. Mayor Bill de Blasio is criticized for rhetoric that allegedly encourages hostility toward law enforcement. Keywords: [nypd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nypd.md), [george soros](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-soros.md), [bill de blasio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-de-blasio.md), [brooklyn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brooklyn.md), [harlem](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/harlem.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Black Lives Matter, Global Definitions of Asian (1:15:38–1:19:08) The discussion explores the media's role in shaping perceptions of police racism, specifically regarding the Black Lives Matter movement. An anecdote about a rookie Asian officer being doused with water leads to a discussion on the differing definitions of "Asian" in the US (typically East Asian) versus the UK (typically South Asian or Muslim). Keywords: [black lives matter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/black-lives-matter.md), [racism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/racism.md), [nypd](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nypd.md), asian, [terminology](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/terminology.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Rod Rosenstein Speech, Truth Wants to Come Out (1:19:08–1:22:28) Former Acting Attorney General Rod Rosenstein gave a speech to the Armenian Bar Association where he made a notable verbal slip. While intending to say the DOJ punishes wrongdoers and corrects mistakes, he stated, "we punish mistakes." The hosts highlight this as a "truth wants to come out" moment, suggesting it reflects the internal culture of the department. Keywords: [rod rosenstein](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rod-rosenstein.md), armenian bar association, [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), mistakes, [truth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/truth.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/28.md) ### 29. 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund, Jon Stewart (1:22:28–1:26:10) The 9-11 Victims Compensation Fund was reauthorized through 2092 following a high-profile campaign by Jon Stewart. While promoted as a "first responders bill," the fund also covers white-collar workers from the financial district, with payouts calculated based on income. Critics argue the media framing ignores that billions had already been paid out and that the fund serves as a liability shield for airlines. Keywords: 9/11 fund, [jon stewart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jon-stewart.md), [mitch mcconnell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mitch-mcconnell.md), [first responders](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-responders.md), [stephen colbert](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/stephen-colbert.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Eliza Schlesinger, Sexual Harassment Double Standards (1:26:11–1:27:53) A clip from comedian Eliza Schlesinger is played, where she jokes that sexual harassment is only considered "the worst" when the man is ugly, whereas if he is attractive, it is viewed as "flirting." The hosts use this to reflect on the early days of the Me Too movement and the subjective nature of harassment claims in popular culture. Keywords: [eliza schlesinger](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/eliza-schlesinger.md), [me too](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/me-too.md), [sexual harassment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sexual-harassment.md), [flirting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/flirting.md), [comedy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/comedy.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Greta Thunberg, New York Times Border Children Video (1:27:53–1:32:32) The New York Times produced a video featuring American children reading alleged notes from migrant children held in detention centers. The hosts criticize this as a "despicable" form of propaganda that traumatizes the child actors to push a political narrative. They compare this to the public promotion of Greta Thunberg, whom they characterize as an "abused child" used to front climate change agendas. Keywords: [greta thunberg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/greta-thunberg.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [border crisis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/border-crisis.md), [child exploitation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-exploitation.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/31.md) ### 32. San Diego E-Scooter Impound Scheme (1:32:33–1:36:25) In San Diego, entrepreneurs have started a business impounding illegally parked electric scooters from companies like Bird and Lime. By treating the abandoned scooters as trespassing property on private hotel or business lots, they charge the companies $30 pickup fees and daily storage rates. The scheme is described as a "genius" application of property rights against the "plague" of dockless scooters. Keywords: [bird](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bird.md), [lime](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lime.md), [san diego](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-diego.md), [e-scooters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/e-scooters.md), [property rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/property-rights.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Austin Homelessness, Unhoused vs Homeless Terminology (1:36:26–1:39:00) Austin Mayor Steve Adler's op-ed on "affordable housing" for the homeless is criticized as a move that will primarily benefit low-paid tech workers rather than those on the street. The hosts argue that the term "homeless" is a misnomer, as many people living in encampments consider those areas their "home," and the actual issue is that they are "unhoused" or lack permanent structures. Keywords: [steve adler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-adler.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [homelessness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homelessness.md), [affordable housing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/affordable-housing.md), [gentrification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gentrification.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/33.md) ### 34. AOC Hates America, Media Talking Points (1:39:00–1:43:01) A listener's email prompts a discussion on how political talking points, such as "AOC hates America," seep into the public consciousness through repetition. Even listeners who avoid mainstream news can be influenced by these memes on platforms like Reddit. The hosts emphasize the importance of identifying these phrases as "talking points" to remain objective. Keywords: [alexandria ocasio-cortez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alexandria-ocasio-cortez.md), [reddit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reddit.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [talking points](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/talking-points.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/34.md) ### 35. The Good Fight, CBS Access Propaganda (1:43:01–1:46:10) The CBS Access show "The Good Fight" featured a storyline revolving around the infamous and unverified "pee tape" involving Donald Trump in Moscow. The show depicts characters watching the tape and treats the conspiracy theory as a factual reality within its universe. The hosts characterize this as "modern-day propaganda" designed to embed political rumors into the minds of viewers. Keywords: the good fight, cbs access, pee tape, [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/35.md) ### 36. Project Veritas, Golden Shower Tape Storyline (1:46:10–1:50:16) The "Good Fight" storyline continues with characters investigating whether the "golden shower tape" is a Project Veritas hoax or a genuine Russian blackmail tool. The show features a Democratic strategist and an FBI agent (played by Jane Lynch) discussing the tape's contents. The hosts argue that such content on a major network's streaming service is "shameful" and intended to influence future historical memory. Keywords: [project veritas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/project-veritas.md), jane lynch, cbs access, [trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump.md), [television](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/television.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/36.md) ### 37. CBS Propaganda Conclusion, Historical Memory (1:50:18–1:55:15) The segment concludes the analysis of "The Good Fight," noting how the show ends with the FBI forcing a witness to sign a document calling the tape a hoax to avoid deportation. The hosts argue that this type of storytelling ensures that in 10 or 20 years, the public will remember the "pee tape" as a real event, regardless of the lack of evidence, due to its saturation in popular media. Keywords: [cbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cbs.md), [propaganda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/propaganda.md), [trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trump.md), historical memory, [media influence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/media-influence.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/37.md) ### 38. Cory Booker, Testosterone and Body Shaming (1:55:16–1:57:30) Senator Cory Booker appeared on Seth Meyers' show, where he discussed his desire to "punch Donald Trump in the face" while simultaneously criticizing the president for being a "body shamer." The hosts point out the hypocrisy of Booker calling Trump an "elderly out-of-shape man" and a "physically weak specimen" while claiming to hold the moral high ground. [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/38.md) ### 39. Mazie Hirono, Democrats and the Righteous Mind (1:57:31–1:59:44) Senator Mazie Hirono spoke at a retreat about the Democrats' struggle to connect with voters' "hearts" rather than just their "brains." She cited Jonathan Haidt's book "The Righteous Mind," suggesting that Democrats are "too smart" and focus on the "rider" (logic) while Republicans speak to the "elephant" (emotion). The hosts mock the idea that being "too smart" is the Democrats' primary communication problem. Keywords: [mazie hirono](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mazie-hirono.md), [jonathan haidt](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jonathan-haidt.md), righteous mind, [democrats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democrats.md), [communication](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/communication.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/39.md) ### 40. Sponsor segment: Associate Executive Producer Donations, Show Value (1:59:44–2:05:20) The hosts thank several donors, including Kevin Caberna, Julia Honig, and Robert Blankshane. They clarify the pronunciation of "SirVice" (Service) and thank Daniel Vol Raven from the Netherlands. The hosts express concern over a lower-than-usual number of donations, urging listeners to support the "value for value" model to keep the show independent. Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [service](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/service.md), [netherlands](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/netherlands.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/40.md) ### 41. No Agenda Meetups, Third-Party Platforms (2:05:20–2:09:00) A report from a Colorado Springs meetup highlights the success of local gatherings in fostering "non-triggered" conversation. The hosts credit the growth of these events to their proprietary website, noagendameetups.com, arguing that third-party platforms like Meetup.com or Patreon are ineffective and restrictive compared to in-house, community-driven solutions. Keywords: [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [colorado springs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/colorado-springs.md), [patreon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/patreon.md), [noagendameetups.com](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/noagendameetups-com.md), [community](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/community.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/41.md) ### 42. Health Karma for Ashley Lazari, Atlanta Meetup (2:09:01–2:11:27) The hosts request "health karma" for Ashley Lazari, the wife of a producer who is undergoing a complex spinal surgery. They read a detailed note about her condition to encourage listener support. Additionally, they clarify a donation from "Sir Spud the Mighty" related to the Atlanta meetup and various "ranks" within the No Agenda community. Keywords: [health karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/health-karma.md), spinal surgery, [atlanta](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/atlanta.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [community](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/community.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/42.md) ### 43. Birds Aren't Real, Satirical Conspiracy Movement (2:11:27–2:15:36) A clip from a Memphis news station features Peter McIndoe, a representative of the "Birds Aren't Real" movement. McIndoe claims that the U.S. government genocided all birds between 1959 and 2001, replacing them with surveillance drones. While the movement is a satirical commentary on conspiracy theories and misinformation, McIndoe maintains a deadpan serious persona during the interview. Keywords: [birds aren't real](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birds-aren-t-real.md), peter mcindoe, [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), [drones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/drones.md), [satire](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satire.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/43.md) ### 44. Satanic Temple, Arkansas Ten Commandments Dispute (2:15:36–2:19:28) The Satanic Temple is seeking to install a statue of Baphomet at the Arkansas State Capitol, arguing that the presence of a Ten Commandments monument entitles them to equal representation under the First Amendment. State Senator Jason Rapert has vowed to block the installation, calling the group "offensive." The hosts discuss the rise of "Satanist podcasts" and the group's use of religious freedom laws for political activism. Keywords: [satanic temple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satanic-temple.md), [baphomet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/baphomet.md), [arkansas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/arkansas.md), [ten commandments](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ten-commandments.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/44.md) ### 45. Satanism in Canada, Political Affiliations (2:19:29–2:23:40) The Satanic Temple has expanded into Canada, with organizers stating that the movement is a reaction to the rise of conservative thought and religious tradition. A spokesperson claims that Satanism is about "inner freedom" rather than literal devil worship. The hosts suggest that the movement's rhetoric aligns closely with Democratic and secular political agendas. Keywords: [satanic temple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/satanic-temple.md), [canada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/canada.md), [liberalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liberalism.md), [tradition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tradition.md), [secularism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/secularism.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/45.md) ### 46. Boris Johnson, Brexit Deadline October 31 (2:23:41–2:26:55) Boris Johnson has officially become the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, promising to "energize" the country and complete Brexit by October 31. Critics, including Nigel Farage, express skepticism that Johnson will actually deliver on this promise without a general election. The hosts predict that Johnson's tenure may be short if he fails to navigate the parliamentary deadlock. Keywords: [boris johnson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boris-johnson.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [united kingdom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/united-kingdom.md), [nigel farage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nigel-farage.md), [general election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/general-election.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/46.md) ### 47. Classic Clips, Obama on DNC Hacking (2:26:56–2:29:54) The hosts play a series of "classic" clips, including a 2009 clip of India's stance on climate emissions and a 2016 clip of Barack Obama discussing the DNC server hack. Obama's comments focus on the need to protect the "integrity of the election" from leakers. The hosts reiterate their skepticism of the "Russian hack" narrative, pointing toward an internal leak. 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Keywords: [oregon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oregon.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md), teen suicide, [antidepressants](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/antidepressants.md), [education](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/education.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/48.md) ### 49. Steven Mnuchin, Bitcoin and Financial Control (2:34:15–2:37:30) Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin expressed skepticism about the long-term viability of Bitcoin, stating he does not expect to be talking about it in ten years. The hosts interpret his comments as a sign that the government may attempt to make the exchange of Bitcoin for fiat currency more difficult to maintain control over global finance. They argue that while the protocol is "unstoppable," the on-ramps and off-ramps are vulnerable to regulation. Keywords: [steven mnuchin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steven-mnuchin.md), [bitcoin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bitcoin.md), [cryptocurrency](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cryptocurrency.md), [treasury department](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/treasury-department.md), [regulation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/regulation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/49.md) ### 50. David Brooks, Multicultural Democracy Mission (2:37:30–2:39:30) David Brooks of the PBS NewsHour is criticized for his vision of America as a "mass multicultural democracy" with a mission to "cross frontiers." The hosts argue that the historical mission of the U.S. was never about crossing frontiers or social engineering, but rather those were incidental outcomes of westward expansion. They characterize Brooks as an out-of-touch pundit whose influence is waning. Keywords: [david brooks](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/david-brooks.md), [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [multiculturalism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/multiculturalism.md), heartland, frontiers [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1158-taking-a-mueller/chapter/50.md) ### 51. Moon Landing Anniversary, Gender-Neutral Language (2:39:30–2:42:12) On the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, a CBS News report referred to Neil Armstrong's "one giant leap for humanity" instead of the original "mankind." The hosts mock this change as an unnecessary application of modern political correctness to a historical quote. The show concludes with a sign-off and a preview of the "Grumpy Old Bens" livestream. 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