# Dumb Meat > Silicon Valley faces a brand safety revolt while political scandals erupt from the UK Prime Minister race to the enduring controversies of the Clinton family inner circle. - **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md) - **Episode:** 1145 - **Published:** 2019-06-10 - **Length:** 2h 45m - **Topics:** YouTube Adpocalypse, [Michael Gove](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-gove.md), [Boeing 737 MAX](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing-737-max.md), [Tony Rodham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tony-rodham.md), [Section 230](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/section-230.md), Climate Mental Health, Nashville Scooters - **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat ## About this episode YouTube and Google face a massive brand safety crisis as mainstream television networks like Disney and NBCUniversal use annual upfronts to lure advertisers away from digital platforms. The shift in YouTube's recommendation algorithms, driven by Google Brain to prioritize watch time, has sparked a media-wide backlash regarding the radicalization of users. This tension is exacerbated by the demonetization of creators like Steven Crowder following disputes with Vox media figures, prompting critics like Glenn Greenwald to warn against the rise of benevolent tech overlords policing public discourse. In the United Kingdom, Environment Secretary Michael Gove admitted to past cocaine use as he campaigns to succeed Theresa May as Prime Minister. Meanwhile, the death of Tony Rodham at age 64 has renewed scrutiny of his business ties to VCS Mining in Haiti and his relationship with the Clinton Foundation. In the aviation sector, the FAA’s Organization Designation Authorization program is under fire for allowing Boeing to self-certify the 737 MAX 8 software, a move linked to Obama-era policies intended to fast-track exports. Additionally, the FBI conducted a high-profile sting in Times Square to arrest Ashakwal Alam for an alleged terror plot involving suicide vests and rocket launchers. Cultural oddities take center stage as Nashville Mayor David Briley threatens to ban electric scooters following a series of fatal accidents and ADA compliance failures. The popularity of Game of Thrones has reportedly caused a surge in abandoned huskies, while a new K9 Cinema in Texas attempts to cater to dog owners. On the culinary front, a debate over the merits of horse meat in Slovenia leads to the branding of chicken as a dumb meat. The episode also features a 1940s Bob Hope clip satirizing political zombies and a skeptical look at NASA’s $58 million per-trip tourism plan for the International Space Station. ## Chapters Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/transcript.md. ### 1. Liberty Nation Top Ten Conservative Podcasts List (0:00–6:13) Liberty Nation published a reader poll ranking the top ten conservative podcasts of 2019, placing No Agenda at number three. The list includes Dan Bongino at number one and Ben Shapiro at number two, while featuring non-traditional conservative entries like Joe Rogan and Dan Carlin. The hosts analyze the "pure play" nature of their podcast compared to the radio-crossover models of Shapiro and Bongino. Keywords: [liberty nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liberty-nation.md), [joe rogan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/joe-rogan.md), [dan bongino](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-bongino.md), [ben shapiro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-shapiro.md), [dan carlin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dan-carlin.md), [dave rubin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dave-rubin.md), conservative podcasts [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/1.md) ### 2. Michael Gove Cocaine Admission and UK Prime Minister Race (6:14–9:29) UK Environment Secretary Michael Gove admitted to using cocaine on several occasions twenty years ago while working as a young journalist. The admission comes as Gove seeks to succeed Theresa May as Prime Minister following her resignation. The timing of the revelation, linked to an upcoming book, is viewed as a strategic "hit job" or a preemptive strike against political opponents. Keywords: [michael gove](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/michael-gove.md), [theresa may](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theresa-may.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [cocaine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cocaine.md), [daily mail](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-mail.md), [uk politics](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/uk-politics.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/2.md) ### 3. Tony Rodham Death and Clinton Foundation Controversies (9:31–16:22) Tony Rodham, the younger brother of Hillary Clinton, died at age 64 with no immediate cause of death reported. His passing prompts a review of past controversies, including his involvement with VCS Mining and a rare gold exploitation permit in Haiti granted in 2012. Previous reports from 2015 highlighted his use of family connections to secure business deals and employment at GreenTech Automotive. Keywords: [tony rodham](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tony-rodham.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [clinton foundation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/clinton-foundation.md), [haiti](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/haiti.md), vcs mining [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/3.md) ### 4. YouTube Censorship Debate and Glenn Greenwald Analysis (16:23–20:20) Glenn Greenwald appeared on Tucker Carlson Tonight to discuss YouTube's decision to demonetize Steven Crowder following a dispute with Vox host Carlos Maza. Greenwald argues that Silicon Valley companies prioritize the interests of powerful media conglomerates over marginalized individuals. The discussion centers on the dangers of allowing benevolent tech overlords to police public discourse. Keywords: [glenn greenwald](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/glenn-greenwald.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [steven crowder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steven-crowder.md), carlos maza, [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [vox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vox.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/4.md) ### 5. Digital Advertising History and Brand Safety Sensitivities (20:20–31:16) A detailed history of digital advertising reveals the extreme sensitivities of major brands regarding their online presence. Anecdotes include Budweiser's strict requirements for MTV Spring Break and AT&T's concerns over logo color accuracy on early monitors. The narrative illustrates how "controlled controversy" is acceptable to advertisers, while unknown risks lead to immediate demands to "close the website down." Keywords: [mtv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mtv.md), [budweiser](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/budweiser.md), [omnicom](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/omnicom.md), [reebok](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reebok.md), [at&t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t.md), [oracle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oracle.md), [think new ideas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/think-new-ideas.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/5.md) ### 6. Microsoft and Apple Advertising Influence on Tech Journalism (31:17–35:59) Personal accounts from tech journalism highlight how companies like Microsoft and Apple use advertising leverage to influence editorial content. One instance involved Microsoft successfully banning a columnist from PC Magazine Italy by threatening to pull all advertising. Another anecdote describes Microsoft demanding free ad space in a Brazilian magazine by claiming their presence was necessary for the publication's legitimacy. Keywords: [microsoft](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microsoft.md), [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [pc magazine](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pc-magazine.md), [steve jobs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-jobs.md), [john sculley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-sculley.md), [italy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/italy.md), [brazil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brazil.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/6.md) ### 7. YouTube Ad Revenue Model and Content Policing Challenges (35:59–40:29) The YouTube business model relies on "long tail" revenue from millions of low-stakes videos, such as cat clips and birthday parties, rather than a few major hits. Maintaining "brand safety" for advertisers like BMW requires massive human and AI resources to police content. The current "adpocalypse" is framed as a failure of these systems to guarantee a safe environment for corporate brands. Keywords: [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [mevio](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mevio.md), [bmw](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bmw.md), ad networks, long tail, [artificial intelligence](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artificial-intelligence.md), [demonetization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/demonetization.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/7.md) ### 8. New York Times Report on YouTube Recommendation Algorithms (40:31–43:43) The New York Times published an investigative piece titled "The Making of a YouTube Radical," detailing how YouTube's recommendation algorithms evolved to prioritize watch time over views. This shift, driven by Google Brain's reinforcement learning, allegedly steered users toward extremist content to maximize engagement. The report is characterized as part of a broader media agenda to reclaim advertising dollars from Silicon Valley. Keywords: [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), stefan molyneux, [lauren southern](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/lauren-southern.md), [google brain](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/google-brain.md), reinforcement learning, [algorithms](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/algorithms.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/8.md) ### 9. Television Upfronts and the War for Ad Dollars (43:43–52:13) Mainstream television networks are using the concept of "brand safety" to lure advertisers away from YouTube and Facebook during annual upfront presentations. Data shows Alphabet's revenue growth slowing as networks like Disney and NBCUniversal pitch their streaming services as safer alternatives to unvetted digital platforms. The hosts argue that the recent wave of de-platforming is a desperate response by tech companies to appease fearful advertisers. Keywords: upfronts, [cnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnbc.md), [reuters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reuters.md), [disney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/disney.md), [nbcuniversal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbcuniversal.md), [brand safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brand-safety.md), [alphabet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alphabet.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/9.md) ### 10. Section 230 and the Publisher vs Platform Legal Muddle (52:15–1:00:32) The legal protections of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act are under scrutiny as tech platforms act more like traditional publishers. While companies claim they are not publishers to avoid liability, they simultaneously invoke First Amendment editorial rights to justify content moderation. The hosts argue that by using algorithms to curate and promote content, these companies have effectively become authors and publishers. Keywords: [section 230](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/section-230.md), [communications decency act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/communications-decency-act.md), [first amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/first-amendment.md), internet association, [liability](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liability.md), [tort law](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tort-law.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/10.md) ### 11. Strategy to Overwhelm Tech Platforms via Hate Speech Reporting (1:00:33–1:08:53) A radical proposal suggests that users should report every tweet and video as "hate speech" to overwhelm the human moderation systems of tech giants. The goal is to create a massive backlog that forces companies to confront the impossibility of policing subjective content at scale. The discussion also touches on the arbitrary nature of Twitter verification, citing the de-verification of Milo Yiannopoulos. Keywords: [hate speech](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hate-speech.md), [reporting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reporting.md), [twitter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/twitter.md), [milo yiannopoulos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/milo-yiannopoulos.md), [verification](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/verification.md), [censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/censorship.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/11.md) ### 12. Boeing 737 MAX 8 Certification and Obama Administration Policies (1:08:54–1:12:18) The FAA's Organization Designation Authorization (ODA) program, which allowed Boeing to appoint its own representatives to certify aircraft software, is linked to the 737 MAX 8 disasters. Critics point to the Obama administration's efforts to fast-track Boeing exports and reduce "red tape" as a contributing factor to the lack of oversight. Boeing notably donated $10 million to the Obama Presidential Library following these policy shifts. Keywords: [boeing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/boeing.md), 737 max 8, [mcas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mcas.md), [faa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/faa.md), [barack obama](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/barack-obama.md), oda program [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/12.md) ### 13. No Agenda Stream and Artwork for Episode 1144 (1:12:19–1:14:37) The hosts acknowledge the No Agenda Stream community and the artwork provided by Darren O'Neill for the previous episode, "Climate Optimist." They discuss the "cheap laughs" provided by the artistic direction and mention the ongoing activity in the "troll room" at NoAgendaStream.com. Keywords: [no agenda stream](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/no-agenda-stream.md), [darren o'neill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/darren-o-neill.md), climate optimist, [artwork](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/artwork.md), [nick the rat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nick-the-rat.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/13.md) ### 14. Lisa Donner Donation and Liberty Nation Poll Clarification (1:14:38–1:18:19) Lisa Donner, the executive managing editor of Liberty Nation, donated $1,000 to the show and clarified that the "Top Ten" list was a legitimate reader poll rather than an editorial fabrication. The hosts discuss the libertarian leanings of Liberty Nation and the importance of such high-level support from the media industry. Keywords: lisa donner, [liberty nation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/liberty-nation.md), [donation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donation.md), [poll](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/poll.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [libertarian](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/libertarian.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/14.md) ### 15. Sir Michael Mugler and the F-35 Top Gun Prediction (1:18:20–1:22:39) Sir Michael Mugler donated $635 and requested a title change to "Sir Anthrax, failed vaccine tester" following a 100% disability rating from the VA. He predicts that the upcoming Top Gun 2 movie is a global marketing vehicle for the F-35 fighter jet, with Tom Cruise serving as the primary salesman for international military sales. Keywords: michael mugler, [f-35](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/f-35.md), top gun 2, [tom cruise](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tom-cruise.md), [anthrax](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/anthrax.md), va disability [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/15.md) ### 16. Dame Isabel Pearson and the London Meetup (1:22:40–1:26:00) Isabel Pearson donated $555.55 ahead of the London meetup at the Victorian Pub near Paddington. She identifies herself as the "first female listener" mentioned in early episodes of the show. The hosts grant her the title of Dame and look forward to meeting her and other supporters in the UK. Keywords: isabel pearson, [london meetup](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london-meetup.md), [paddington](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paddington.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), female listener [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/16.md) ### 17. Tiffany Fielder Health Update and Al Sharpton Clip (1:26:01–1:29:23) Justin Bessette provides a health update on his wife, Tiffany Fielder, who has been pain-free for a year following brain surgery for trigeminal neuralgia, often called the "suicide disease." The update is celebrated with a request for an Al Sharpton "shape-shifting Jews" audio clip from the archives. Keywords: tiffany fielder, [trigeminal neuralgia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trigeminal-neuralgia.md), [brain surgery](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brain-surgery.md), [al sharpton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-sharpton.md), [karma](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/karma.md), [wisconsin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wisconsin.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/17.md) ### 18. Studio Naming Rights and Executive Producer Recognition (1:29:24–1:32:35) The hosts discuss the possibility of auctioning "naming rights" for the podcast studio, similar to corporate sponsorships of sports stadiums like Candlestick Park. This initiative is presented as a way to further the value-for-value model while emulating mainstream media structures. They acknowledge the lack of associate executive producers for the current episode. Keywords: [naming rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/naming-rights.md), [executive producer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/executive-producer.md), [candlestick park](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/candlestick-park.md), nussbaum studio, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/18.md) ### 19. Todd Moore CIA Anecdote and Playapod App (1:32:36–1:36:35) Todd Moore, a former CIA employee, shares a story about encountering a mysterious office in the basement of CIA headquarters containing boxes labeled "JFK," "Iran Contra," and "Roswell." Moore, who is being knighted, also promotes his non-monetized podcast app, Playapod, which features No Agenda. Keywords: todd moore, [cia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cia.md), john deutch, [george tenet](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/george-tenet.md), [roswell](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/roswell.md), playapod [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/19.md) ### 20. Bob Hope Zombie Clip and Political Satire (1:36:37–1:38:38) An audio clip from a 1940s Bob Hope movie features a joke comparing zombies—people with no will of their own following orders—to Democrats. The hosts use the clip to illustrate that political bashing and satire have remained consistent in American culture for decades. Keywords: [bob hope](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bob-hope.md), [zombies](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/zombies.md), [democrats](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/democrats.md), voodoo, classic movies [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/20.md) ### 21. NASA Moon Landing Skepticism and ISS Tourism (1:38:39–1:42:57) The hosts express skepticism regarding the 2024 moon landing goal, citing missing telemetry data and the destruction of Apollo-era technology. They discuss NASA's plan to open the International Space Station to tourists for $58 million per trip, plus $35,000 per night for room and board, viewing it as a distraction from the lack of lunar progress. Keywords: [nasa](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nasa.md), [moon landing](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/moon-landing.md), [mars](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mars.md), [jeff bezos](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-bezos.md), [spacex](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/spacex.md), [international space station](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/international-space-station.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/21.md) ### 22. FBI Sting Operation in Times Square Terror Plot (1:42:57–1:46:49) The FBI arrested 22-year-old Ashakwal Alam in New York City after a 10-month sting operation involving an undercover officer. Alam allegedly praised ISIS and expressed interest in attacking Times Square with suicide vests or the Freedom Tower with a rocket launcher. The arrest occurred after he purchased two Glocks with removed serial numbers from undercover agents. Keywords: [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), ashakwal alam, [times square](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/times-square.md), [al-qaeda](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/al-qaeda.md), [isis](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/isis.md), [sting operation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sting-operation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/22.md) ### 23. Dr. Pizza Pedophile Investigation and FBI Entrapment (1:46:49–1:49:10) A former writer for Ars Technica, known as "Dr. Pizza," was arrested in a pedophile network investigation. The hosts discuss the disturbing nature of the FBI's undercover transcripts, where agents pose as parents to entrap suspects. They comment on the "stereotypical weirdo" appearance of the suspect in tech review videos. Keywords: dr. pizza, [ars technica](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ars-technica.md), [fbi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fbi.md), [entrapment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/entrapment.md), [child exploitation](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/child-exploitation.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/23.md) ### 24. Swedish Airline BRA and Biofuel Carbon Offsets (1:49:11–1:56:01) Swedish airline BRA (Braathens Regional Airlines) introduced an "environment class" where passengers pay an extra $30 for biofuel and climate compensation. The hosts criticize this as a "bullshit story," arguing that carbon credits are merely tradable permits to pollute and that turboprop engines are not inherently more eco-friendly than other jet engines. Keywords: bra airline, [sweden](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sweden.md), [biofuel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/biofuel.md), [carbon offsets](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/carbon-offsets.md), environment class, turboprop [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/24.md) ### 25. New Consensus and the 25 Holocausts Climate Metric (1:56:03–1:58:58) Rihanna Gun-Wright, policy director for New Consensus and an ally of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, claimed on CNN that the difference between 1.5 and 2 degrees of warming represents "25 Holocausts" in terms of human deaths. The hosts mock the use of this extreme metric and the framing of climate change as the primary driver of all other social issues. Keywords: [alexandria ocasio-cortez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alexandria-ocasio-cortez.md), [green new deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/green-new-deal.md), new consensus, rihanna gun-wright, [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/25.md) ### 26. NPR Report on Climate Change and Mental Health (1:58:59–2:01:34) An NPR segment featuring Professor Helen Barry from the University of Sydney discusses the impact of climate change on mental health. The hosts highlight a specific quote where Barry suggests researchers must approach the problem to "eventually get the scientific answers that we want," which they interpret as an admission of bias in climate science. Keywords: [npr](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/npr.md), [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [mental health](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mental-health.md), [university of sydney](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/university-of-sydney.md), psychiatric epidemiology [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/26.md) ### 27. Jay Inslee and the DNC Climate Debate Dispute (2:01:34–2:05:24) Washington Governor Jay Inslee, a single-issue climate candidate, accused the Democratic National Committee of "silencing" activists by refusing to hold a dedicated climate change debate. The DNC reportedly threatened to ban candidates from future official debates if they participated in non-sanctioned climate forums. The hosts view this as the DNC trying to avoid a "sideshow" that could be mocked by Republicans. Keywords: [jay inslee](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-inslee.md), [dnc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/dnc.md), [climate debate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-debate.md), [2020 election](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2020-election.md), [iowa caucuses](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iowa-caucuses.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/27.md) ### 28. Donor Recognition and 69th Wedding Anniversary Tribute (2:05:25–2:11:36) The hosts read a list of donors contributing between $50 and $100, including a tribute from Heather Rodriguez for her great-grandparents' internment on what would have been their 69th wedding anniversary. Other notable donors include "Maxine Waters Gravel," which maintains its own Twitter account, and various "Barons" and "Sirs" of the No Agenda Peerage. Keywords: [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [maxine waters gravel](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/maxine-waters-gravel.md), heather rodriguez, [korean war](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/korean-war.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/28.md) ### 29. Birthday List and Global Meetup Reports (2:11:37–2:15:35) The hosts announce upcoming birthdays for listeners and review reports from recent No Agenda meetups in Oklahoma City and Pittsburgh. They promote the upcoming June 12th meetup in London and future events in Copenhagen, Seattle, and Knoxville, encouraging listeners to use NoAgendaMeetups.com to connect. Keywords: [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [oklahoma city](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oklahoma-city.md), [pittsburgh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pittsburgh.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [copenhagen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copenhagen.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/29.md) ### 30. Knighting and Damning Ceremony for Episode 1145 (2:15:35–2:17:55) In a formal ceremony, the hosts induct Lisa Donner and Isabel Pearson as Dames and Todd Moore as a Knight of the No Agenda Round Table. They also announce a title change for Sir Mike Mugler to "Sir Anthrax, failed vaccine tester." The new peers are offered the traditional choice of symbolic refreshments, such as "Mutton & Mead." Keywords: [knighting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighting.md), damning, [peerage](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/peerage.md), lisa donner, isabel pearson, todd moore [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/30.md) ### 31. Nashville Electric Scooter Ban and Safety Concerns (2:17:56–2:21:53) The Mayor of Nashville is threatening to ban electric scooters following 11 reported deaths and numerous accidents. Concerns include the danger to pedestrians, particularly the blind and deaf, as scooters are often left blocking sidewalks. The hosts discuss the legal challenges from ADA groups and the specific risks in cities like Austin with large deaf populations. Keywords: [nashville](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nashville.md), [electric scooters](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/electric-scooters.md), ban, [safety](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/safety.md), [ada](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ada.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/31.md) ### 32. Game of Thrones Husky Abandonment and Dog Cinemas (2:21:54–2:24:46) The popularity of "direwolves" in Game of Thrones has led to a surge in people buying huskies and subsequently abandoning them at shelters when they realize the maintenance required. In contrast, a "K9 Cinema" has opened in Texas, allowing owners to bring their dogs to movie screenings for an extra fee. Keywords: [game of thrones](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/game-of-thrones.md), huskies, direwolves, animal shelters, k9 cinema, [texas](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/texas.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/32.md) ### 33. Culinary Tangent on Chicken and Horse Meat (2:24:47–2:29:46) A discussion on food preferences leads to a critique of chicken as a "dumb meat" and an exploration of eating horse and reindeer meat in Europe. One host shares an anecdote about being pressured to eat a massive horse steak in Slovenia, only to find that the locals, who claimed not to eat it, finished his leftovers with enthusiasm. Keywords: [chicken](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/chicken.md), [horse meat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/horse-meat.md), [slovenia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/slovenia.md), reindeer meat, [finland](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/finland.md), [culinary](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/culinary.md) [Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1145-dumb-meat/chapter/33.md) ### 34. News Blitz on Trump Taxes, Sudan, and Walmart Delivery (2:29:48–2:33:01) A rapid-fire news segment covers House Democrats' efforts to obtain Donald Trump's tax returns, Nancy Pelosi's comment that Trump should be "in prison," and the suspension of Sudan from the African Union. Additionally, YouTube announced a ban on Holocaust denial videos, and Walmart is testing a service where delivery workers put groceries directly into customers' refrigerators. 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