# Climate Optimist

> A wave of digital censorship hits YouTube creators as international police agencies target journalists and local governments grapple with escalating homelessness crises in Texas and California.

- **Show:** [The No Agenda Show](https://search.noagendashow.net/index.md)
- **Episode:** 1144
- **Published:** 2019-06-06
- **Length:** 2h 55m
- **Topics:** Vox Adpocalypse, AFP Raids, Climate Optimism, Ring Surveillance, Oryx Farming, D-Day Anniversary
- **Web page:** https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist

## About this episode

The Austin City Council faces backlash after repealing ordinances against panhandling and public camping, a move local critics and police argue effectively decriminalizes trespassing. Meanwhile, the Australian Federal Police conducted unprecedented raids on journalists at News Corp and the ABC, utilizing warrants that allow authorities to alter digital files. These actions highlight a growing international crackdown on whistleblowers and independent reporting within the Five Eyes intelligence network.

YouTube enters a new phase of decommercialization as major brands like AT&T drive the removal of advertisements from controversial content to ensure brand safety. This shift coincides with Carlos Maza of Vox Media advocating for journalists to act as gatekeepers of newsworthy information. In the legacy sphere, CNN President Jeff Zucker claims his network maintains objective truth despite scrutiny over the doxing of a private citizen who created a manipulated video of Nancy Pelosi. Further media analysis reveals the high bureaucratic costs of mainstream podcast production compared to independent models.

Donald Trump labels London Mayor Sadiq Khan a stone-cold loser during a UK state visit while praising the fashion of Melania Trump. The hosts propose the term climate optimist for the President to use when addressing environmental policy. A listener-driven segment explores the prevalence of Oryx farming in the Texas Hill Country and the mechanics of Matryoshka dolls featuring Robert Mueller.

## Chapters

Each chapter's transcript is at its own link. The whole transcript is at https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/transcript.md.

### 1. Watermelon Reproduction and Environmental Activism (0:00–1:29)

The hosts open the program from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. A humorous discussion ensues regarding the ethics of eating watermelons, with comparisons made between the fruit's reproduction and John Kerry.

Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [silicon valley](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/silicon-valley.md), watermelons, [john kerry](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-kerry.md), environmental activism

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/1.md)

### 2. YouTube Demonetization, Decommercialization, and Brand Safety (1:30–9:48)

The "Vox Adpocalypse" is analyzed as a shift from demonetization to decommercialization. Big brands like AT&T are identified as the driving force behind removing ads from controversial content to maintain brand safety. The hosts argue that YouTube creators must understand they are part of a commercial ecosystem, not a charitable one.

Keywords: [youtube](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/youtube.md), [vox](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vox.md), [steven crowder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steven-crowder.md), carlos maza, [at&t](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/at-t.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/2.md)

### 3. Carlos Maza, Vox Media, and Gatekeeping Journalism (9:49–13:11)

Carlos Maza of Vox Media is criticized for his views on journalism and his public feud with Steven Crowder. The discussion highlights Maza's definition of journalists as "gatekeepers" who decide what is newsworthy. The hosts suggest Maza's content remains commercialized because it aligns with the anti-Trump sentiments of corporate investors like NBC.

Keywords: carlos maza, [vox media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vox-media.md), [nbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nbc.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [steven crowder](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steven-crowder.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/3.md)

### 4. Self-Censorship in Media and Tucker Carlson's Advertising (13:11–19:54)

The reality of self-censorship in legacy media is explored, noting that reporters often avoid investigating major advertisers to ensure self-preservation. Tucker Carlson's show on Fox News is cited as an example of a program struggling to attract mainstream advertisers, relying instead on niche sponsors like MyPillow.

Keywords: [self-censorship](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/self-censorship.md), [new york times](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/new-york-times.md), [tucker carlson](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tucker-carlson.md), [mypillow](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mypillow.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/4.md)

### 5. Jeff Zucker, CNN Ratings, and Objective Truth (19:54–24:24)

CNN President Jeff Zucker's claims about the network's objectivity are scrutinized. The hosts compare CNN's strategy to MSNBC and Fox News, arguing that Zucker is deluded in his belief that CNN seeks "the truth" while others follow agendas. Zucker's past programming decisions at NBC are also criticized.

Keywords: [jeff zucker](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeff-zucker.md), [cnn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cnn.md), [msnbc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/msnbc.md), [fox news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fox-news.md), [jay leno](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jay-leno.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/5.md)

### 6. Nancy Pelosi Video, Doxing, and Brian Stelter (24:24–33:23)

The controversy surrounding a manipulated video of Nancy Pelosi is deconstructed. The hosts criticize CNN and The Daily Beast for doxing the private citizen who created the video. They argue the media's reaction stems from jealousy over independent creators gaining national attention without traditional news infrastructure.

Keywords: [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [brian stelter](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brian-stelter.md), [daily beast](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/daily-beast.md), [facebook](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facebook.md), kevin poulsen

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/6.md)

### 7. Jared Kushner, Axios Interview, and Birtherism Claims (33:24–37:10)

Jared Kushner's interview with Axios is reviewed, specifically his refusal to label "birtherism" as racist. The hosts criticize Kushner's media performance and suggest he should have deflected the question by pointing to the 2008 Hillary Clinton campaign's alleged role in the controversy.

Keywords: [jared kushner](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jared-kushner.md), [axios](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/axios.md), [alexandria ocasio-cortez](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/alexandria-ocasio-cortez.md), [birtherism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birtherism.md), [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/7.md)

### 8. Central Park Five, Donald Trump, and New York History (37:10–41:05)

A personal anecdote about a haircut leads to a discussion on Donald Trump's history in New York City during the 1980s. The hosts revisit the Central Park Five case and Trump's infamous full-page ad calling for the death penalty, arguing the context of the city's high crime rate at the time is often ignored by modern documentaries.

Keywords: [central park five](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/central-park-five.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [ken burns](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ken-burns.md), [manhattan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/manhattan.md), [death penalty](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/death-penalty.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/8.md)

### 9. PBS NewsHour, Yamiche Alcindor, and Professional Standards (41:05–44:58)

The current state of PBS NewsHour is compared unfavorably to its origins under McNeil and Lehrer. The hosts criticize reporter Yamiche Alcindor's delivery and professional standards, labeling the current iteration of the show as "amateur hour" driven by bias.

Keywords: [pbs newshour](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs-newshour.md), [yamiche alcindor](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/yamiche-alcindor.md), [judy woodruff](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/judy-woodruff.md), robert mcneil, [jim lehrer](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jim-lehrer.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/9.md)

### 10. Trump UK Visit, Protests, and Brian Eno (44:59–50:06)

Donald Trump's state visit to the UK for the 75th anniversary of D-Day is discussed. The hosts highlight the "Stop the War Coalition" and its president, musician Brian Eno, while noting that media coverage focused heavily on protests rather than supporters.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), brian eno, stop the war coalition, [d-day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/d-day.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/10.md)

### 11. Sadiq Khan, Elle UK, and Reproductive Rights (50:07–53:15)

London Mayor Sadiq Khan's video collaboration with Elle UK is critiqued. In the video, Khan criticizes Donald Trump's values and the rolling back of reproductive rights in the United States. The hosts mock the video's production quality and Khan's focus on American politics over London's local issues.

Keywords: [sadiq khan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sadiq-khan.md), elle uk, [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [reproductive rights](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/reproductive-rights.md), [feminism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/feminism.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/11.md)

### 12. Trump Presser, Jeremy Corbyn, and Negative Forces (53:16–58:03)

During a press conference in the UK, Donald Trump labels Sadiq Khan a "stone-cold loser" and Jeremy Corbyn a "negative force." The hosts observe a new rhetorical theme from Trump where he dismisses critics as "negative" while positioning himself as someone who gets things done.

Keywords: [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [jeremy corbyn](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jeremy-corbyn.md), [sadiq khan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sadiq-khan.md), [theresa may](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theresa-may.md), [fake news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fake-news.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/12.md)

### 13. NHS Trade Deal Rumors and British Press (58:03–1:01:40)

The British media's concern over the National Health Service (NHS) being "on the table" for a post-Brexit trade deal with the US is addressed. The hosts argue the controversy stemmed from a misunderstanding during a press conference and was amplified by the press to incite fear.

Keywords: [nhs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nhs.md), [brexit](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/brexit.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [theresa may](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/theresa-may.md), [trade deal](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/trade-deal.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/13.md)

### 14. Melania Trump's Fashion and Media Neglect (1:01:41–1:03:12)

The hosts praise Melania Trump's fashion choices during the UK state visit, noting her "Big Ben" dress and tributes to Lady Diana. They lament that mainstream fashion magazines like Vogue and Elle ignore her style due to political bias.

Keywords: [melania trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/melania-trump.md), [vogue](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/vogue.md), elle, [fashion](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fashion.md), lady di

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/14.md)

### 15. Climate Optimism and Winston Churchill Fact-Checking (1:03:13–1:09:29)

The hosts deconstruct a PBS report fact-checking Donald Trump's interview with Piers Morgan. They dispute the claim that Trump lied about Winston Churchill and nuclear weapons. A new term, "climate optimist," is proposed for Trump to use when discussing environmental issues.

Keywords: [climate change](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-change.md), [prince charles](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/prince-charles.md), [winston churchill](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/winston-churchill.md), [pbs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pbs.md), [piers morgan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/piers-morgan.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/15.md)

### 16. Iran Negotiations, Royal Bloodlines, and Meghan Markle (1:09:30–1:14:14)

Donald Trump's willingness to talk with Iran is mentioned alongside a theory about his connection to royal bloodlines. The segment also covers Trump's comments regarding Meghan Markle being "nasty" about him in past interviews.

Keywords: [iran](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/iran.md), [queen elizabeth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/queen-elizabeth.md), [meghan markle](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meghan-markle.md), [bloodlines](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bloodlines.md), [the sun](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/the-sun.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/16.md)

### 17. Matryoshka Dolls and Value for Value Model (1:14:15–1:18:46)

The episode's artwork featuring a Robert Mueller nesting doll prompts a discussion on the history and mechanics of Matryoshka dolls. The hosts transition into explaining the "value for value" funding model of the show, emphasizing independence from third-party advertisers.

Keywords: matryoshka dolls, [robert mueller](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/robert-mueller.md), russian culture, [value for value](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/value-for-value.md), [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/17.md)

### 18. Found Money, State Treasuries, and Executive Producers (1:18:47–1:22:45)

A donation from "Sir Poopin Sucker" leads to a discussion about recovering unclaimed property from state governments via USA.gov. The hosts share personal stories of finding hundreds of dollars in stagnant accounts and encourage listeners to do the same.

Keywords: found money, usa.gov, state treasury, [accounting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/accounting.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/18.md)

### 19. Texas Tourism, Oryx Farming, and Meat (1:22:47–1:26:23)

In response to a donor from Toronto visiting Austin, the hosts provide recommendations for "guns and meat" in Texas. They discuss the prevalence of Oryx farming in the Texas Hill Country, noting that the animals are more numerous in Texas than in their native Africa.

Keywords: [toronto](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/toronto.md), [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [oryx](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/oryx.md), [fredericksburg](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/fredericksburg.md), [hill country](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hill-country.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/19.md)

### 20. Pittsburgh Meetup and Human Resources (1:26:25–1:30:44)

The hosts thank Emma Bloomer for organizing a No Agenda meetup in Pittsburgh. They discuss the "trigger-free" environment of listener gatherings and acknowledge a donation celebrating a new "human resource" (child) arriving in December.

Keywords: [pittsburgh](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pittsburgh.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [ben shapiro](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ben-shapiro.md), [climate gate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/climate-gate.md), [human resources](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/human-resources.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/20.md)

### 21. Family Legacies, D-Day Veterans, and Longhand Writing (1:30:45–1:36:54)

Donations in honor of grandfathers who served in World War II lead the hosts to share their own family histories involving D-Day and the Pacific Theater. A listener's letter also sparks a brief debate on the terminology of "longhand" versus "cursive" writing.

Keywords: [d-day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/d-day.md), omaha beach, signal corps, [longhand](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/longhand.md), [cursive](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cursive.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/21.md)

### 22. Presidential Oath and Nancy Pelosi's Interpretation (1:36:56–1:39:33)

Nancy Pelosi is criticized for misquoting the presidential oath of office, using the word "support" instead of "preserve, protect, and defend." The hosts argue this reflects a broader lack of constitutional understanding among politicians.

Keywords: [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), presidential oath, [constitution](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/constitution.md), [tariffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tariffs.md), [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/22.md)

### 23. Impeachment Process and Public Misconceptions (1:39:33–1:43:25)

Nancy Pelosi's comments on the impeachment process are analyzed. The hosts agree with her assessment that many Americans mistakenly believe impeachment automatically removes a president from office, though they criticize her convoluted explanation of the legal versus political nature of the proceedings.

Keywords: [impeachment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impeachment.md), [nancy pelosi](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/nancy-pelosi.md), [senate](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/senate.md), [indictment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/indictment.md), [25th amendment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/25th-amendment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/23.md)

### 24. Jamie Raskin, Nixon, and Impeachment History (1:43:25–1:46:37)

Congressman Jamie Raskin is called out for incorrectly stating that Richard Nixon was impeached. The hosts clarify that Nixon resigned before impeachment, while Bill Clinton was actually impeached for perjury, not just "lying."

Keywords: [jamie raskin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/jamie-raskin.md), [richard nixon](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/richard-nixon.md), [bill clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/bill-clinton.md), [perjury](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/perjury.md), [impeachment](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/impeachment.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/24.md)

### 25. Australian Federal Police Raids on Journalists (1:46:38–1:52:26)

The Australian Federal Police (AFP) conducted raids on the homes and offices of journalists at News Corp and the ABC. The warrants reportedly allowed police to "add, copy, delete or alter" material on computers, which the hosts link to the Five Eyes intelligence network and a crackdown on whistleblowers.

Keywords: [australia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/australia.md), [afp](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/afp.md), [abc news](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/abc-news.md), [classified documents](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/classified-documents.md), [five eyes](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/five-eyes.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/25.md)

### 26. Security Clearances, John Brennan, and Paul Manafort (1:52:28–1:54:44)

The discussion shifts to US intelligence figures, noting that John Brennan's security clearance was never actually pulled despite orders. The hosts also comment on Paul Manafort being sent to Rikers Island, suggesting a coordinated effort to pressure figures related to the Russia investigation.

Keywords: [john brennan](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/john-brennan.md), [rand paul](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rand-paul.md), [paul manafort](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/paul-manafort.md), [rikers island](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/rikers-island.md), [security clearance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/security-clearance.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/26.md)

### 27. Julian Assange, Steve Pieczenik, and Torture Techniques (1:54:44–2:01:32)

A 2016 clip of Dr. Steve Pieczenik claiming intelligence officers gave emails to Julian Assange is revisited. The hosts discuss Assange's health and the possibility that he is being "worked over" using psychological or physical techniques before a potential military court appearance under the Espionage Act.

Keywords: [julian assange](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/julian-assange.md), [steve pieczenik](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/steve-pieczenik.md), [espionage act](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/espionage-act.md), [torture](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/torture.md), third degree

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/27.md)

### 28. Hillary Clinton's 2015 Hair Coloring Comment (2:01:33–2:02:33)

A brief archival clip from 2015 features Hillary Clinton joking that her hair would not turn white in the White House because she had been coloring it for years.

Keywords: [hillary clinton](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hillary-clinton.md), [white house](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/white-house.md), hair color, [2015](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/2015.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/28.md)

### 29. Austin Homelessness Ordinance and Decriminalization (2:02:34–2:08:40)

Austin City Council's move to repeal ordinances against panhandling and camping in public spaces is examined. Critics, including local police, argue that the "socialist" majority on the council is effectively decriminalizing shoplifting and trespassing for those experiencing homelessness.

Keywords: [austin](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/austin.md), [homelessness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homelessness.md), [panhandling](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/panhandling.md), [mayor adler](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mayor-adler.md), [decriminalization](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/decriminalization.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/29.md)

### 30. San Francisco and Sacramento Homelessness Crisis (2:08:40–2:13:53)

A licensed clinical social worker provides a detailed report on the homelessness crisis in California. The account highlights the use of meth by homeless women to stay awake at night for safety and the lack of shelter space in Sacramento compared to New York City's system.

Keywords: [san francisco](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/san-francisco.md), [sacramento](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/sacramento.md), [homelessness](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/homelessness.md), [meth](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meth.md), [social work](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/social-work.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/30.md)

### 31. D-Day 75th Anniversary Donations and Tributes (2:13:54–2:23:31)

The hosts read a large volume of donations themed around the 75th anniversary of D-Day. Listeners pay tribute to family members who served in the Army, Navy, and Air Force during World War II and the Korean War.

Keywords: [d-day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/d-day.md), [world war ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-ii.md), [veterans](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veterans.md), [donations](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donations.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/31.md)

### 32. Russian Contribution to WWII and Historical Perversion (2:23:32–2:25:36)

The hosts criticize the exclusion of Russia from D-Day commemorations, noting that the Soviet Union lost 21 million people during World War II. They describe the omission as a "perversion of history" driven by current political tensions.

Keywords: [russia](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/russia.md), [d-day](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/d-day.md), [world war ii](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/world-war-ii.md), [history](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/history.md), [diplomacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/diplomacy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/32.md)

### 33. Global Meetups, Birthdays, and Knighthood Ceremony (2:25:38–2:28:03)

Upcoming listener meetups in London, Copenhagen, and various US cities are announced. The hosts celebrate several birthdays and perform a formal knighthood ceremony for "Sir Jim of the Tug Hill Plateau."

Keywords: [london](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/london.md), [copenhagen](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/copenhagen.md), [meetups](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/meetups.md), [birthdays](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/birthdays.md), [knighthood](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/knighthood.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/33.md)

### 34. Mainstream Podcast Production Costs and Bureaucracy (2:28:03–2:31:43)

A breakdown of a mainstream media podcast production brief reveals excessive costs and bureaucratic layers. The hosts mock the allocated hours for hosts and editors, as well as the requirement for "audience testing" and multiple rounds of feedback for a simple pilot.

Keywords: [podcasting](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/podcasting.md), [mainstream media](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mainstream-media.md), [production budget](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/production-budget.md), [pilot](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/pilot.md), agencies

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/34.md)

### 35. Amazon Ring Surveillance and Police Partnerships (2:31:44–2:41:19)

The expansion of Amazon's Ring doorbell surveillance network is discussed, specifically its "Neighbors" app and partnerships with local police. The hosts warn that this creates a voluntary spy grid that can be exploited by law enforcement, hackers, and "creeps" to monitor neighborhood patterns.

Keywords: [amazon ring](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/amazon-ring.md), [surveillance](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/surveillance.md), neighbors app, [facial recognition](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/facial-recognition.md), [privacy](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/privacy.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/35.md)

### 36. Apple WWDC19, iPadOS, and the $1,000 Stand (2:41:19–2:44:05)

Apple's 2019 Worldwide Developers Conference is reviewed, focusing on the shift toward iPadOS and the high cost of the new Mac Pro. The hosts highlight the negative audience reaction to the announcement of a $999 computer monitor stand.

Keywords: [apple](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/apple.md), [wwdc](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/wwdc.md), mac pro, [ipad](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/ipad.md), pro stand

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/36.md)

### 37. Native Advertising, Walmart, and Marsha Cross (2:44:07–2:47:09)

The prevalence of "native ads" disguised as news is explored, using examples from Walmart and a story about actress Marsha Cross. The hosts suggest the Marsha Cross anal cancer story was used by media outlets to promote HPV vaccinations like Gardasil.

Keywords: [native advertising](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/native-advertising.md), [walmart](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/walmart.md), marsha cross, [hpv](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/hpv.md), [gardasil](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/gardasil.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/37.md)

### 38. Red Meat vs. White Meat Study and Veganism (2:47:10–2:51:26)

A CBS report on a study comparing red meat and white meat is dismissed as pro-vegan propaganda. The hosts argue the study's parameters were too narrow and that the medical experts' conclusions were designed to push plant-based diets rather than provide objective science.

Keywords: [red meat](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/red-meat.md), white meat, [veganism](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/veganism.md), [cholesterol](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/cholesterol.md), [microbiome](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/microbiome.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/38.md)

### 39. Mexico Tariffs, Avocado Prices, and Sign-Off (2:51:26–2:55:40)

The episode concludes with a look at proposed tariffs on Mexico and their potential impact on avocado prices. The hosts sign off with a final reminder of the value-for-value model and a montage of news clips regarding border security and trade.

Keywords: [mexico](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/mexico.md), [tariffs](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/tariffs.md), [donald trump](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/donald-trump.md), [avocados](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/avocados.md), [congress](https://search.noagendashow.net/topic/congress.md)

[Chapter transcript](https://search.noagendashow.net/episode/1144-climate-optimist/chapter/39.md)

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